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Post by reamsofverse on Oct 25, 2023 21:18:05 GMT
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Post by earlpurple on Oct 25, 2023 21:24:34 GMT
Scottish football is too mixed with religion, but I thought Celtic were mostly Catholic-affiliated.
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Post by reamsofverse on Oct 25, 2023 21:41:22 GMT
Scottish football is too mixed with religion, but I thought Celtic were mostly Catholic-affiliated. In bed with the IRA mate. SCUM. |
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Post by cafc81 on Oct 25, 2023 22:13:25 GMT
Call me naive but this is no different when England showed Ukraine flag color at the Wembley.
Maybe they should stick to football, but calling them terrorist for showing solidarity to Palestinians in Gaza is a bit too much
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Post by reamsofverse on Oct 25, 2023 22:26:02 GMT
Call me naive but this is no different when England showed Ukraine flag color at the Wembley. Maybe they should stick to football, but calling them terrorist for showing solidarity to Palestinians in Gaza is a bit too much They are pro IRA and condone terrorism in every sense of the word. |
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Post by cafc81 on Oct 25, 2023 22:40:15 GMT
Maybe they are, but how can you tell it by their action of waving Palestinian flags?
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Post by redplanet on Oct 26, 2023 1:21:08 GMT
Maybe they are, but how can you tell it by their action of waving Palestinian flags? Why do you think they are waving those flags, you muppet. IRA are in bed with Hamas. Unless you are deaf, blind and stupid, you have to know what those scum recently did to so many innocents of all ages. Just to try and start a war. Waving the that flag is supporting those atrocities. Supporting Ukraine with flags was completely different and you know it. People like you trying to make out otherwise need to take a good hard look at themselves. |
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Post by redplanet on Oct 26, 2023 1:47:20 GMT
edward paxton
5 HRS AGO
Ange Postecoglou was appalled with the behaviour of the “septic” fans when the Queen died. They also celebrated Lee Rigby’s murder.
Frankly, they are the worst in the UK. Zero dignity, zero class, IRA sympathisers. The lowest of the low.
Barclay Miller
23 MIN AGO
Some insight for you, not widely recognised down south, far less spoken of. Hopefully you will be able to read it before it’s thrown down the memory hole.
In Scotland, the words ‘Celtic, Ireland, Catholic IRA, anti-English, Republic, Independence, SNP’ and now apparently ‘Palestine’ all fit well together in the same sentence.
The words ‘Rangers, protestant, United Kingdom, pro-Union, pro-Monarchy’ all fit well together in the same sentence, but in a very different sentence to the previous one.
Just some local insight for you.
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Post by DFT on Oct 26, 2023 5:56:54 GMT
Celtic and their support are scum.
Always have been, always will be.
Vile IRA/Hamas terrorist loving scum.
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Post by DFT on Oct 26, 2023 5:58:54 GMT
calling them terrorist for showing solidarity to Palestinians in Gaza is a bit too much You are either a wind up or very naive! |
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Post by DFT on Oct 26, 2023 6:10:39 GMT
Well said mate, I agree 100% as do most decent people. |
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Post by sevenoaks on Oct 26, 2023 7:23:42 GMT
Call me naive but this is no different when England showed Ukraine flag color at the Wembley. Maybe they should stick to football, but calling them terrorist for showing solidarity to Palestinians in Gaza is a bit too much Naive! |
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Post by smudge7946 on Oct 26, 2023 8:10:40 GMT
Just don't suggest Gaza is on fire.
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Post by Mundell on Oct 26, 2023 8:48:43 GMT
The majority of the teetotaling intellectuals waving those flags probably couldn’t even point to Palestine on a map, let alone know anything about the history of that part of the world.
However, it’s possible to support the Palestinian cause while utterly condemning Hamas and it’s possible to be critical of Israel’s government without being anti-Semitic.
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Post by stew1 on Oct 26, 2023 8:55:07 GMT
We are not blameless here. Don’t forget the idiots that shouted out from the North stand at the Reading game’s minute’s silence.
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Post by smudge7946 on Oct 26, 2023 12:30:16 GMT
Keep it out of sport.
If you want to spend time thinking about dead people, poorly people, the oppressed or those who enjoy being violated up the backside, please go to church on a Sunday.
Or a mosque if you are that way inclined (They open on Fridays, no shoes.)
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Post by cafc81 on Oct 26, 2023 15:44:28 GMT
The majority of the teetotaling intellectuals waving those flags probably couldn’t even point to Palestine on a map, let alone know anything about the history of that part of the world. However, it’s possible to support the Palestinian cause while utterly condemning Hamas and it’s possible to be critical of Israel’s government without being anti-Semitic. Thank you, that’s my point. For all the people on here, Hamas flag is very different from Palestine flag. So the fact you are saying it is pro Hamas then call me naive is quite laughable. |
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Post by cafc81 on Oct 26, 2023 15:47:25 GMT
calling them terrorist for showing solidarity to Palestinians in Gaza is a bit too much You are either a wind up or very naive! What’s wrong with showing solidarity to Palestinians in Gaza? |
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Post by cafc81 on Oct 26, 2023 15:55:58 GMT
Call me naive but this is no different when England showed Ukraine flag color at the Wembley. Maybe they should stick to football, but calling them terrorist for showing solidarity to Palestinians in Gaza is a bit too much Naive! Do you know why Hamas is in place? If you don’t and just take the 7th Oct as starting point then you are the naive one here |
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Post by Mundell on Oct 26, 2023 18:50:04 GMT
The majority of the teetotaling intellectuals waving those flags probably couldn’t even point to Palestine on a map, let alone know anything about the history of that part of the world. However, it’s possible to support the Palestinian cause while utterly condemning Hamas and it’s possible to be critical of Israel’s government without being anti-Semitic. Thank you, that’s my point. I had assumed so. However, I suspect it’s very unlikely that the protestors at Parkhead were there to innocently promote a cease fire and the provision of more humanitarian aid to Gaza or, more generally, to express support for the Palestinian cause. More likely, unfortunately, what happened was a combination of absolutely moronic tribalism on the part of some with a much more sinister motivation from others. That probably explains the reaction to your post though I’m sure you were well intended. To state the blindingly obvious, this is an incredibly complex and highly sensitive subject and it’s very easy to say things which then get taken out of context, either innocently or wilfully. |
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Post by earlpurple on Oct 26, 2023 19:08:15 GMT
The "Palestinian cause" as in them living in the land in peace, or as in the ambition of removing Israel from the map and making the whole thing into an Islamic state?
Far more Palestinans (especially in Gaza) support Jihad than you would guess.
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Post by cafc81 on Oct 26, 2023 20:19:02 GMT
The "Palestinian cause" as in them living in the land in peace, or as in the ambition of removing Israel from the map and making the whole thing into an Islamic state? Far more Palestinans (especially in Gaza) support Jihad than you would guess. Exactly why bombing Gaza won’t destroy Hamas unless you are talking about ethnic cleansing, wipe everyone out there. All the bombings from Israel are oxygen for Hamas to thrive. The peace talk can only start when cease fire are discussed, which need big countries like US, EU to have a more open view about Palestinian right. You keep 2 million people in a small land without any mean to live for decades, more and more people there will turn to Hamas |
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Post by seriouslyred on Oct 26, 2023 20:32:37 GMT
Propaganda, misinformation and tribalism has been around for 100s of years.
Just that today's tech shoots opinions, lies and even doctored images direct into one's social media feeds and fone at a rapid pace.
One could comment about posters of hostages going up in the West End then ripped down just as one can pick up on another 100 themes being amplified.
Ultimately it looks like Israel security was lax AND Netanyahu has lost support. Will he now be reckless or can the tension be dialled down. I'm actually quite pessimistic about what follows in terms of loss of life.
But can't comment in detail as don't have enough trusted sources nor any depth of understanding.
What we can say is that this is a very complex challenge, AND nothing like either Ukraine nor N. Ireland. It's also littered with trolls ready to call one antisemitic for criticising Israel or Islamophobic when somebody conflates Hamas with all Palestinians.
As for the title of this thread: provocative perhaps... or just sectarian bollox? 😉
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Post by DFT on Oct 27, 2023 7:32:48 GMT
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Post by earlpurple on Oct 27, 2023 10:39:19 GMT
The "Palestinian cause" as in them living in the land in peace, or as in the ambition of removing Israel from the map and making the whole thing into an Islamic state? Far more Palestinans (especially in Gaza) support Jihad than you would guess. Exactly why bombing Gaza won’t destroy Hamas unless you are talking about ethnic cleansing, wipe everyone out there. All the bombings from Israel are oxygen for Hamas to thrive. The peace talk can only start when cease fire are discussed, which need big countries like US, EU to have a more open view about Palestinian right. You keep 2 million people in a small land without any mean to live for decades, more and more people there will turn to Hamas
That there are a lot of them in a small area is something that is difficult to fix, unless some of them move to the West Bank where the population is far less dense, and the 2 state solution would essentially mean "Palestine" consists of both the West Bank and Gaza.
Bombing is an unfortunate consequence. If it were possible to send people in, arrest all the guilty ones, remove all their rockets and then leave the rest of them in peace, they might try that, but you know that is an impossibility.
The best solution is not to go to war at all, i.e. ceasefire, even if you are not happy, because it's better than the alternative. It's like what you are told when you are small - you don't hit a guy whose a lot bigger than you even if you don't like them because he'll hit you back harder.
It will take decades of trust from both sides, but they needed to build security fences which is something you'd ideally not want to have with your neighbours, and maybe you have forgotten the Intifada where suicide bomber terrorists were attacking mainland Israel continuously with bombs in discos and clubs, pizza restaurants and buses. Think of what happened in London in July 2005, or Paris in 2015, but it was a regular occurrence.
The Gaza Strip was intended to be the "test" of a 2-state solution but it failed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2023 11:19:52 GMT
State of this thread fucking hell ignorance is bliss, and from one who now lives in a wholly Catholic country the hypocrisy is fucking unreal. Up the Celtic and free Palestine!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2023 11:20:50 GMT
Propaganda, misinformation and tribalism has been around for 100s of years. Just that today's tech shoots opinions, lies and even doctored images direct into one's social media feeds and fone at a rapid pace. One could comment about posters of hostages going up in the West End then ripped down just as one can pick up on another 100 themes being amplified. Ultimately it looks like Israel security was lax AND Netanyahu has lost support. Will he now be reckless or can the tension be dialled down. I'm actually quite pessimistic about what follows in terms of loss of life. But can't comment in detail as don't have enough trusted sources nor any depth of understanding. What we can say is that this is a very complex challenge, AND nothing like either Ukraine nor N. Ireland. It's also littered with trolls ready to call one antisemitic for criticising Israel or Islamophobic when somebody conflates Hamas with all Palestinians. As for the title of this thread: provocative perhaps... or just sectarian bollox? 😉 Sectarian bollocks mates the some on here are obsessed with it. |
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Post by earlpurple on Oct 27, 2023 11:27:15 GMT
State of this thread fucking hell ignorance is bliss, and from one who now lives in a wholly Catholic country the hypocrisy is fucking unreal. Up the Celtic and free Palestine!
I agree with the "free Palestine" bit as long as a free Palestine means one where Palestinians can elect their leaders regularly, and speak out against them if they disagree with their policies without being shot, and where the leaders are there to defend the people and look after their interests, not put their lives in danger by attacking a neighbouring country whose arsenal is bigger and who will hit back harder.
How free would Mexico be as a country if they continually attacked the USA?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2023 11:33:59 GMT
State of this thread fucking hell ignorance is bliss, and from one who now lives in a wholly Catholic country the hypocrisy is fucking unreal. Up the Celtic and free Palestine!
I agree with the "free Palestine" bit as long as a free Palestine means one where Palestinians can elect their leaders regularly, and speak out against them if they disagree with their policies without being shot, and where the leaders are there to defend the people and look after their interests, not put their lives in danger by attacking a neighbouring country whose arsenal is bigger and who will hit back harder.
How free would Mexico be as a country if they continually attacked the USA?
Mexicans are free to go about their daily buisness unlike Palestinians, not a good example tbh. Gaza and the West Bank both controlled by Israel. |
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Post by earlpurple on Oct 27, 2023 11:46:16 GMT
Because Mexico don't provoke the USA. If they did they might find the situation would change.
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