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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 19, 2023 15:29:05 GMT
I know he hasn't been helped by not getting the players in he wants but his decision making is shocking. What has Ness done to be dropped? A bigger question is what has that total carthorse Hector, done to be selected?
We have one tactic and that's get the ball to CBT!. Just not good enough.
Dean's a nice guy but I don't see him being the man to get us rolling.
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Post by wiggyatthebackpost on Aug 19, 2023 15:31:47 GMT
Holden nice guy but his tactics are awful
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Post by pardew123 on Aug 19, 2023 15:33:27 GMT
Next win🥺 where’s the next goal coming from.
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Post by aaronaldo on Aug 19, 2023 15:54:49 GMT
Not convinced by him at all.
He’s not been backed though. So hard to tell.
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Post by ExeterAddick on Aug 19, 2023 16:03:15 GMT
The jury is still out, but he simply hasn't got the squad that we all hoped for under this ownership (yet).
For all the promises of bids going in and looking for a higher calibre of player, etc. these new owners have delivered nothing yet and consequently we're already playing catch up, no matter who the manager ends up being.
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Post by scoham on Aug 19, 2023 16:07:50 GMT
No manager would a success with this squad.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2023 16:11:11 GMT
Not keen on Holden, but he's currently dealing with a piss poor squad so too hard to know exactly.
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Post by valley on Aug 19, 2023 16:20:16 GMT
Squad is not good enough.
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Post by Bodiam on Aug 19, 2023 16:28:39 GMT
No
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Post by DFT on Aug 19, 2023 16:41:47 GMT
He needs to sort the defence out, that's for sure!
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Post by zhengsociety on Aug 19, 2023 16:51:26 GMT
Darren Moore anyone?
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Post by bigandy99 on Aug 19, 2023 17:02:31 GMT
The manager can’t be accountable for individual errors but he can for tactics and game management..
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Post by sittingbourne11 on Aug 19, 2023 17:25:17 GMT
As I have said on another post Holden joins the list of useless managers Charlton have employed recently.
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Post by discocafc on Aug 19, 2023 18:30:17 GMT
Doesn’t matter who we bring in, the squad needs a good sort out.
I analysed the 18 players who are involved and noted 4 issues:
1: The 4/7 subs are not good enough and need dishing out
2: We had 3 kids regularly playing and they didn’t hardly feature last season so they’ve been thrown in the deep end.
3: Some of the players including Hector, Jones, Edun etc did not get up to full fitness so some are catching up.
4: Who else have we got to replace apart from the injured players? More kids!
There is no point blaming the manager when we had these issues above. I know we have injuries but we desperately need more signings. I’m surprised we haven’t bought anyone in this week when we needed to.
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Post by addicks1 on Aug 19, 2023 18:35:51 GMT
Not sure but I know one thing and that is at present he has been badly let down by the new owners, 3 weeks since a signing and I don’t think they have actually paid a fee for anyone.
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Post by DFT on Aug 19, 2023 19:37:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2023 21:39:06 GMT
I know he hasn't been helped by not getting the players in he wants but his decision making is shocking. What has Ness done to be dropped? A bigger question is what has that total carthorse Hector, done to be selected? We have one tactic and that's get the ball to CBT!. Just not good enough. Dean's a nice guy but I don't see him being the man to get us rolling. The issue is Charlie fella Surely you know that |
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 19, 2023 21:55:50 GMT
I know he hasn't been helped by not getting the players in he wants but his decision making is shocking. What has Ness done to be dropped? A bigger question is what has that total carthorse Hector, done to be selected? We have one tactic and that's get the ball to CBT!. Just not good enough. Dean's a nice guy but I don't see him being the man to get us rolling. The issue is Charlie fella Surely you know that That's it pick on the easy target, you are not alone, the majority of fans have been itching to point the finger. He is just one face among the SMT who are answerable to the majority shareholders in the States so not sure how it's the fault of one individual. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2023 22:34:58 GMT
The issue is Charlie fella Surely you know that That's it pick on the easy target, you are not alone, the majority of fans have been itching to point the finger. He is just one face among the SMT who are answerable to the majority shareholders in the States so not sure how it's the fault of one individual. Easy target 🤣🤣🤣 Keep defending fella Do you want a spade to dig yourself in it |
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Post by massivebeak on Aug 20, 2023 4:14:22 GMT
Same old story I’m afraid- we’ll never actually know if we ever have a good manager as they’re never backed. We only see a manger that tries his best with the shit he’s got.
Anyone else see the pattern lol?
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Post by madz on Aug 20, 2023 6:50:14 GMT
Ball to CBT is his only option. We have no other decent wide players and losing Fraser is huge. Taylor not quite match ready yet but thought we bought him for his dead balls as well.
He needs more options 100%. If with more options to choose from we are still performing this badly (and the odd good bit of play does not hide the fact we are losing) then he has to be held accountable and told to sort it out. I don't want another bunch of owners changing managers every 5 minutes.
Regardless of people's opinions that Jones, Taylor, Camara, Edun and May are upgrades on last year we are still not strong enough.
He has to sort out the whole team still. Our defence is poorly organised, our creative players are not creating and we don't have enough of them, and we have 1 experienced striker. Kanu's goals have been good and Leaburn will come back but it's not enough. Certainly not enough to be challenging for top 6.
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Post by smudge7946 on Aug 20, 2023 7:07:09 GMT
We will get better as the season progresses. September could be our month.
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Post by se7sm on Aug 20, 2023 7:57:27 GMT
Yeah done ok last year with the right players , we all looked at the squad yesterday and knew midfield without key players and up front well . You can’t make a silk purse out of a pigs ear
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Post by DFT on Aug 20, 2023 8:45:36 GMT
He's a good talker, that's for sure!
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Aug 20, 2023 9:15:36 GMT
I reckon we should give Holden until the Fleetwood game (Sept 2nd) and if he can't get a tune out of the squad by then we should bin him off and give the job to Andy Scott.
Bear in mind that Scott has way more managerial experience than Holden (317 games vs 90) and unlike Dean he's actually got a team promoted (OK, from League 2 but he was voted London Manager Of the Year in the process).
He's picking the players anyway, so he might as well manage them too if Dean doesn't improve (plus it will be once the window has closed so he'll have more time on his hands).
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Post by kings hill addick on Aug 20, 2023 11:40:04 GMT
I reckon we should give Holden until the Fleetwood game (Sept 2nd) and if he can't get a tune out of the squad by then we should bin him off and give the job to Andy Scott. Bear in mind that Scott has way more managerial experience than Holden (317 games vs 90) and unlike Dean he's actually got a team promoted (OK, from League 2 but he was voted London Manager Of the Year in the process). He's picking the players anyway, so he might as well manage them too if Dean doesn't improve (plus it will be once the window has closed so he'll have more time on his hands). I’m not sure we want to sack the manager straight after he spends our transfer budget on players for a system that another chap might not want to play. That is the main reason we have so many players we want to get rid off. Sacking a manager after he has signed the players he wants means another total overhaul the next summer. |
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Aug 20, 2023 13:15:46 GMT
I reckon we should give Holden until the Fleetwood game (Sept 2nd) and if he can't get a tune out of the squad by then we should bin him off and give the job to Andy Scott. Bear in mind that Scott has way more managerial experience than Holden (317 games vs 90) and unlike Dean he's actually got a team promoted (OK, from League 2 but he was voted London Manager Of the Year in the process). He's picking the players anyway, so he might as well manage them too if Dean doesn't improve (plus it will be once the window has closed so he'll have more time on his hands). I’m not sure we want to sack the manager straight after he spends our transfer budget on players for a system that another chap might not want to play. That is the main reason we have so many players we want to get rid off. Sacking a manager after he has signed the players he wants means another total overhaul the next summer. I think Scott is having as much of a say as Holden in terms of signings. Didn't Reams infer that it was only when Holden kicked up a stink re wanting May (who Scott and co weren't keen on) that they relented and reluctantly signed him. |
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Post by ENdeavour on Aug 20, 2023 13:48:08 GMT
I accept he hasn't got a lot to work with at the moment but he really is making a total hash of it. Yes, give him more time but this dogmatic stance on the system, regardless of available personnel, is concerning. I didn't like what I saw from him yesterday, he doesn't have much of a presence on the touchline. When PV went 2-1 up he went and sat down having previously been stood up while we were winning. I prefer to see a Manager stand up and be counted when the going gets tough. I also don't like his post match interviews, there's never any accountability and they all have the same rhythm. It generally goes along the lines of - yeah we lost but we're not going to cry about it, we made some mistakes and we'll work on that but the players gave their all today. The repetition is starting to grate and I'd like to see a bit more empathy with the fans.
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Post by manikin on Aug 20, 2023 14:45:58 GMT
At the start of recent seasons whoever our manager has been there seems to have been major selection problems. Firstly we seem to have our "star" players struck down by injury ( often because they are bloody unfit ). Secondly the squads have been very thin on the ground because of poor recruitment, we never seem to get in new players early enough to clear the drose from the previous season. We then can't bring in enough " quality " players because we've run out of time, only to add to the drose we've got left over from the previous season, because that's all that's left.
The last time we had a proper clear out was the season Chris Powell got us promoted and then we almost started from scratch, but the was because the recruitment team started early.
On top of all that our managers brains seem to go into neutral and they become completely devoid of ideas.
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Post by bexleyboy on Aug 20, 2023 14:48:39 GMT
Not sure but I know one thing and that is at present he has been badly let down by the new owners, 3 weeks since a signing and I don’t think they have actually paid a fee for anyone. Yes they have and a loan fee |
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