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Post by reamsofverse on Apr 15, 2023 10:16:13 GMT
Barnet's a shit hole, I want to go home!!
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Post by revilo on Apr 15, 2023 10:37:26 GMT
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Post by reamsofverse on Apr 15, 2023 13:51:47 GMT
0-0 draw. Think Barnet is a bit of a dump to be honest.
Not at their best today Wrexham but a point is massive at this stage of the season.
Stupid sending off, Wrexham's first red card of the season. Kind of killed any hope of a goal at either end.
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Post by kings hill addick on Apr 15, 2023 15:05:38 GMT
0-0 draw. Think Barnet is a bit of a dump to be honest. Not at their best today Wrexham but a point is massive at this stage of the season. Stupid sending off, Wrexham's first red card of the season. Kind of killed any hope of a goal at either end. Shocking from the player. He, almost, had to contort himself to kick the keeper in the face. The replays on the tele make it look worse. A point must make Wrexham Champions. Four points clear with three games to go must make it a formality. I’m pleased for you. It’s been a long time since I’ve had much to celebrate at football. Enjoy! |
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Post by Mundell on Apr 15, 2023 21:52:42 GMT
In my view it’s a great shame for Notts County that Wrexham are playing in this season’s National League and not just because they might miss out on promotion despite finishing the season with over 100 points. Notts also have excellent owners in the Reedtz brothers who own a football stats business called Football Radar. They are genuine football fans who are running the club responsibly and professionally, but they don’t possess the Reynolds McElhenney razzmatazz. Indeed, they are deliberately low profile.
This is their fourth season of ownership and having missed out in the playoffs in each of the last three seasons, they richly deserve to win promotion after a fantastic season in which they’ve played some excellent football.
The Reedtz brothers have invested (circa £14m to date, including costs incurred while acquiring the club), but they’ve succeeded by being smart, not by throwing money at the problem. Insofar as they have players capable of playing in League Two, they’ve developed those players rather than bribed them. Macauley Langstaff was playing in National League North last season, for example.
By contrast, Wrexham have thrown heavy artillery at winning promotion, signing players who could easily be playing league football, presumably by making it financially attractive for them to join. In my view they’ve also been less well coached than Notts, succeeding by playing fairly direct football and benefiting from having much better players than their opponents.
In this sense Notts’ success is more authentic, though no doubt Bromley, for example, would claim that budget wise they can’t compete with Notts anymore than they can’t compete with Wrexham. It is ironic that though Bromley currently trail Notts County by 37 points the sides drew both of their league matches and if they make the playoffs it would be a classic football perversity if Bromley were to prevent Notts winning promotion.
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Post by lewisham on Apr 16, 2023 4:36:42 GMT
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Post by reamsofverse on Apr 16, 2023 7:02:38 GMT
People should read the comnents. Make Sandgaard look even more clueless |
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Post by tonaddick on Apr 16, 2023 11:00:16 GMT
People should read the comnents. Make Sandgaard look even more clueless That figure has been quoted a lot this year in the press, alongside the belief that running costs are costing them circa £3m a year once they've netted off income. I'm not sure if that includes capital investment, e.g. the new stand behind the goal. But it definitely suggests that there is some care and thoughtful behaviour behind the social media bluster. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Apr 23, 2023 12:12:35 GMT
I see there is a thread talking about Wrexham on CL without the childish reaction discussing the club got on here from the idiots who have walked off into the sunset and will never return, that I can assure you, no matter how much involvement I have on here going forward.
My point all along was showing what can be achieved by buying a football club for £2m and running it right capturing the imagination of the town while doing so. Over 10,000 fans at the game yesterday with hundreds outside just wanting to be part of it.
To suggest they have bought the league is pathetic, only an idiot and we have had a few on here would make clueless comments like that. Some of the football they have played, and Notts County for that matter would not look out of place in L1 and by that I mean the top end of it.
There were a few faces in the crowd last night and the A-listers who come aling with the current owners is growing. Millions upon millions of dollars are going to be pumpred into this football club because there are NFL club owners, Hollywood directors and all sorts wanting to be a part of it. My point here and it has been all along is just who is going to buy a club like Charlton for 27 x what Wrexham has cost and get the club going again? It's not going to happen even without the Valley you are looking at seven or eight times what Reynolds and McElhenney have paid and their £2m included the stadium! It just shows how far of CAFC are in becoming an established club again.
Two pre-season friendlies lined up against Man Utd and Chelsea, Championship and L1 players on the wanted list and 17,000 fans wanting the 10,000 tickets available until next season until the new stand is completed.
Anyway this was yesterday for those who have a genuine interest.
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Post by valleyfaithful on Apr 23, 2023 12:32:18 GMT
We watched the game yesterday and was actually quite nice to see. Would like to see Foster carry on next year - good interview:
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Post by smudge7946 on Apr 23, 2023 12:33:08 GMT
Why would anyone suggest that a team full of league one players has brought that Mickey Mouse league.
It must have been so hard competing against the footballing titans of Maidstone, Dorking and Boreham Wood.
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Post by reamsofverse on Apr 23, 2023 12:55:40 GMT
Why would anyone suggest that a team full of league one players has brought that Mickey Mouse league. It must have been so hard competing against the footballing titans of Maidstone, Dorking and Boreham Wood. Why not focus on what can be achieved with 2m? Club, stadium, fanbase. All the facilities of a L1 club, the fanbase of a L1 club, the structure of a L1 club, why not have the players of a L1 club? What would be the point otherwise? Would would you advise them to do? Buy L2 or crocked players like Charlton do? That probably explains why you have one club on the up and the other going backwards. The training ground Colliers Park is EPL standard and used by Wales as their Northern base. Nothing wrong with ambition. Those who don't think that should be happening at other clubs because it won't happen for a long, long time at theirs are quite sad really. |
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Post by ashaddick on Apr 23, 2023 15:12:10 GMT
I actually agree with Reams and as I said earlier in this post I accept that I have envy of the way that Wrexham have been run over the last couple of years, it is the polar opposite of the way our own club is being run.
You can only beat the opposition in front of you and Wrexham have done that consistently whilst we have failed.
Nothing would make me change my allegiance even though I live much closer to Wrexham than SE7 but I am pleased for them and would love a little of their stardust to blow our way. Surely it’s not to much to ask to have an owner ( or two ) who genuinely care about the club and it’s community.
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Post by yorkshireaddick on Apr 23, 2023 20:35:59 GMT
Fair play to Wrexham! Im happy for their fans.
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Post by norfolkrobin on Apr 23, 2023 21:06:13 GMT
I actually agree with Reams and as I said earlier in this post I accept that I have envy of the way that Wrexham have been run over the last couple of years, it is the polar opposite of the way our own club is being run. You can only beat the opposition in front of you and Wrexham have done that consistently whilst we have failed. Nothing would make me change my allegiance even though I live much closer to Wrexham than SE7 but I am pleased for them and would love a little of their stardust to blow our way. Surely it’s not to much to ask to have an owner ( or two ) who genuinely care about the club and it’s community. Great Post,sums up my feelings too. Envious of the positivity wave they will continue to ride.Mullin's 1st goal yesterday was a thing of true beauty,and what I enjoyed equally was the hunger he showed to win the ball back before hitting top bins. Had a target on their back all season,pushed all the way by a Notts county side that will get promoted with a grand day out if such a thing as football justice exists. As I've said before,I will be an interested spectator to see how far they can go. Maybe Paul Rudd fancies a go and a head start? Haha |
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Post by canterburyaddick on Apr 23, 2023 21:15:58 GMT
Jealousy is not an attractive trait, but I'm sure we all feel it! The irony is that Sangaard could have done all that (not got us into League 2, I mean, though he almost suceeded) and got all of the plaudits that those two have had. It would have involved making good decisions in appointing the right people and concentrating on the funding and marketing of the club to other investors rather than being an incompetent CEO. That what the Wrexham two have done and will have to keep doing if they want to move forward. I like what they have had to say so far, so well done Wrexham and good luck to their fans.
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Post by zenga on Apr 24, 2023 6:50:14 GMT
rather than being an incompetent CEO. My old man used to say: "if an incompetent person would know he is incompetent, he wouldn't be incompetent to begin with". |
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Post by roburwash on Apr 24, 2023 9:13:28 GMT
Basically the situation is that Wrexham got lucky in having owners who have done the right thing, while Charlton got unlucky multiple times in having owners who have done the wrong thing. There was nothing that Wrexham fans did which brought about this piece of luck and there was nothing that us Charlton fans did to bring about the chain of bad owners. It was out of our control. Reams, you are fortunate in that you can change allegiance from Charlton to Wrexham and enjoy the success that the club is experiencing but to come on to a group of Charlton supporters who don't have the choice you had and say that similar success for us " won't happen for a long, long time" feels like needlessly rubbing salt into our wounds. You point out what success Wrexham has had - and I think that's wonderful for the club and its fans - but what are we supposed to do about it in relation to the club we love? Change allegiance too? Personally, I can't do that. Nor can I make a Wrexham style chunk of luck fall on us. You say, "My point all along was showing what can be achieved by buying a football club for £2m and running it right capturing the imagination of the town while doing so." and you are right, Wrexham have proved that but in what way does it help us Charlton fans to be told that?
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Post by kings hill addick on Apr 24, 2023 9:29:58 GMT
Jealousy is not an attractive trait, but I'm sure we all feel it! The irony is that Sangaard could have done all that (not got us into League 2, I mean, though he almost suceeded) and got all of the plaudits that those two have had. It would have involved making good decisions in appointing the right people and concentrating on the funding and marketing of the club to other investors rather than being an incompetent CEO. That what the Wrexham two have done and will have to keep doing if they want to move forward. I like what they have had to say so far, so well done Wrexham and good luck to their fans. The big difference, in my view, is that Reynolds and McElhenney wanted to be fans, and wanted to 'support' the club and the team. I've watched the TV show and they both come across as genuine and seem to want to be 'accepted' by the Wrexham fans, as one of their own. Sandgaard wanted to be 'adored' by the Charlton fans. Reynolds looks distraught in some clips when Wrexham, are losing and looks like I feel when they win. The clips of Reynolds in the pub show him having a drink and chatting to fans and the landlord. The clips of Sandgaard in the Oak show him playing his guitar to a small audience of fans. That is, in my view, the difference between Reynolds, McElhenney & Sandgaard. The success is, actually, irrelevant. It's the motivation and the modesty of the actors compared to the ego of the narcissist. Even if none of them were rich and/or famous I suspect that Reynolds and McElhenney would be good company and good fun to be around whereas I suspect that Sandgaard is neither. |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Apr 24, 2023 9:39:24 GMT
Basically the situation is that Wrexham got lucky in having owners who have done the right thing, while Charlton got unlucky multiple times in having owners who have done the wrong thing. There was nothing that Wrexham fans did which brought about this piece of luck and there was nothing that us Charlton fans did to bring about the chain of bad owners. It was out of our control. Reams, you are fortunate in that you can change allegiance from Charlton to Wrexham and enjoy the success that the club is experiencing but to come on to a group of Charlton supporters who don't have the choice you had and say that similar success for us " won't happen for a long, long time" feels like needlessly rubbing salt into our wounds. You point out what success Wrexham has had - and I think that's wonderful for the club and its fans - but what are we supposed to do about it in relation to the club we love? Change allegiance too? Personally, I can't do that. Nor can I make a Wrexham style chunk of luck fall on us. You say, "My point all along was showing what can be achieved by buying a football club for £2m and running it right capturing the imagination of the town while doing so." and you are right, Wrexham have proved that but in what way does it help us Charlton fans to be told that? By the law of averages mate, our luck when it comes to owners has to change, Agreed we have had no choice but to have had to put up with non qualified people running important aspects of our football club, and comments like running a football club is easy just make it even more frustrating for us supporters to hear Whenever I have a conversation with a supporter of another team the first thing that I think of is how well that club is run…….Bolton Wanderers spring to mind straight away as a well run club, Brighton in the premier league another example Having success as a football club to me is all about the ownership putting the right people in the right positions and getting the correct experienced recruitment team in place making the right decisions Our time will come mate, keep the faith |
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Post by ashaddick on Apr 24, 2023 9:40:52 GMT
I should add to my comments that good luck has indeed been part of Wrexhams success, any other owner who could have bought them may well have shown an equal affection to the club, it’s supporters and the towns community.
But the contacts and clout the current owners have in the entertainment business has bought the much applauded docu series to a global audience and that is a huge slice of luck. A couple of years ago a good number of the world’s population wouldn’t have known where Wales is let alone a town like Wrexham.
That fame properly managed can bring in lots of money, money properly managed can bring great success.
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Post by aucklandaddick on Apr 24, 2023 9:54:54 GMT
Jealousy is not an attractive trait, but I'm sure we all feel it! The irony is that Sangaard could have done all that (not got us into League 2, I mean, though he almost suceeded) and got all of the plaudits that those two have had. It would have involved making good decisions in appointing the right people and concentrating on the funding and marketing of the club to other investors rather than being an incompetent CEO. That what the Wrexham two have done and will have to keep doing if they want to move forward. I like what they have had to say so far, so well done Wrexham and good luck to their fans. The big difference, in my view, is that Reynolds and McElhenney wanted to be fans, and wanted to 'support' the club and the team. I've watched the TV show and they both come across as genuine and seem to want to be 'accepted' by the Wrexham fans, as one of their own. Sandgaard wanted to be 'adored' by the Charlton fans. Reynolds looks distraught in some clips when Wrexham, are losing and looks like I feel when they win. The clips of Reynolds in the pub show him having a drink and chatting to fans and the landlord. The clips of Sandgaard in the Oak show him playing his guitar to a small audience of fans. That is, in my view, the difference between Reynolds, McElhenney & Sandgaard. The success is, actually, irrelevant. It's the motivation and the modesty of the actors compared to the ego of the narcissist. Even if none of them were rich and/or famous I suspect that Reynolds and McElhenney would be good company and good fun to be around whereas I suspect that Sandgaard is neither. Another key difference is that the people running Wrexham went out with intent to recruit a team to get them out of the National league They went to the Americans and said we need the likes of Mullin & Palmer to come in but we will have to pay them well above the norm and Reynolds sanctioned it …. they then needed reinforcements like OConnell , Lee and Foster all no doubt on bigger wages than the norm and Reynolds sanctioned this as well This is the bit that we have got wrong, with apparently a top four budget we brought in and probably allegedly overpaid average league two and league one players with some of the supposedly highest paid either injured all the time or shipped off to Fleetwood or loaned out to Cambridge & Burton and then they cannot get a game up there……you seriously couldn’t make it up…. and the same recruitment personnel are still currently in situ….. beggars belief |
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Post by reamsofverse on Apr 24, 2023 11:12:05 GMT
Basically the situation is that Wrexham got lucky in having owners who have done the right thing, while Charlton got unlucky multiple times in having owners who have done the wrong thing. There was nothing that Wrexham fans did which brought about this piece of luck and there was nothing that us Charlton fans did to bring about the chain of bad owners. It was out of our control. Reams, you are fortunate in that you can change allegiance from Charlton to Wrexham and enjoy the success that the club is experiencing but to come on to a group of Charlton supporters who don't have the choice you had and say that similar success for us " won't happen for a long, long time" feels like needlessly rubbing salt into our wounds. You point out what success Wrexham has had - and I think that's wonderful for the club and its fans - but what are we supposed to do about it in relation to the club we love? Change allegiance too? Personally, I can't do that. Nor can I make a Wrexham style chunk of luck fall on us. You say, "My point all along was showing what can be achieved by buying a football club for £2m and running it right capturing the imagination of the town while doing so." and you are right, Wrexham have proved that but in what way does it help us Charlton fans to be told that? All of this changing allegiance stuff is just so wide of the mark. I don't expect people to get it but I don't really have to explain myself either. I became a Charlton fan because of my Dad, just like Wrexham were my first ever club for the same reason. Childhood memories, they never leave you. This is a fascinating football story. It causes no harm to share it. |
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Post by ISawBogleScore on Apr 24, 2023 11:13:07 GMT
Basically the situation is that Wrexham got lucky in having owners who have done the right thing, while Charlton got unlucky multiple times in having owners who have done the wrong thing. There was nothing that Wrexham fans did which brought about this piece of luck and there was nothing that us Charlton fans did to bring about the chain of bad owners. It was out of our control. Reams, you are fortunate in that you can change allegiance from Charlton to Wrexham and enjoy the success that the club is experiencing but to come on to a group of Charlton supporters who don't have the choice you had and say that similar success for us " won't happen for a long, long time" feels like needlessly rubbing salt into our wounds. You point out what success Wrexham has had - and I think that's wonderful for the club and its fans - but what are we supposed to do about it in relation to the club we love? Change allegiance too? Personally, I can't do that. Nor can I make a Wrexham style chunk of luck fall on us. You say, "My point all along was showing what can be achieved by buying a football club for £2m and running it right capturing the imagination of the town while doing so." and you are right, Wrexham have proved that but in what way does it help us Charlton fans to be told that? Well said. Maybe we should all start supporting (at least!) 3 teams like Reams does, sooner or later we should stumble on some good luck! |
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Post by roburwash on Apr 24, 2023 12:20:46 GMT
That's fair enough, Reams - you say Wrexham has been in your heart since your childhood and I'm pleased for you that your club is having success after such a long period of relative failure. But have you been running a Wrexham fan site for the last however many years as you have been running ITTV? What has been disappointing is that you seem to have turned against CAFC and are lauding Wrexham's success as a way of increasing the already great sadness most of us feel about our plight.
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Post by benj on Apr 24, 2023 12:54:23 GMT
Ooooohhhh look at me! My new club in Wales is now better than yours! Pathetic! We’d still batter Wrexham with all due respect |
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Post by essexaddick on Apr 24, 2023 14:44:13 GMT
rather than being an incompetent CEO. My old man used to say: "if an incompetent person would know he is incompetent, he wouldn't be incompetent to begin with". Agreed. Or put another way people invariably are promoted or end up at their own level of incompetence, including Prime Ministers. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Apr 24, 2023 15:46:13 GMT
Ooooohhhh look at me! My new club in Wales is now better than yours! Pathetic! We’d still batter Wrexham with all due respect Really? Since when has it been my NEW club? You can't have the history i've had with them and not be involved years later. As a family we have a lifelong involvement that far outweighs that of any other club my old man has represented. Charlton wouldn't batter them at all but nobody has even nentioned that so I think you need to stop being so childish and immature about it. Didnt you call for protests on CL last week? Why may I ask? Think you have let yourself down with that post fella. Not a good idea posting things about something you would never understand. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Apr 24, 2023 16:49:43 GMT
Basically the situation is that Wrexham got lucky in having owners who have done the right thing, while Charlton got unlucky multiple times in having owners who have done the wrong thing. There was nothing that Wrexham fans did which brought about this piece of luck and there was nothing that us Charlton fans did to bring about the chain of bad owners. It was out of our control. Reams, you are fortunate in that you can change allegiance from Charlton to Wrexham and enjoy the success that the club is experiencing but to come on to a group of Charlton supporters who don't have the choice you had and say that similar success for us " won't happen for a long, long time" feels like needlessly rubbing salt into our wounds. You point out what success Wrexham has had - and I think that's wonderful for the club and its fans - but what are we supposed to do about it in relation to the club we love? Change allegiance too? Personally, I can't do that. Nor can I make a Wrexham style chunk of luck fall on us. You say, "My point all along was showing what can be achieved by buying a football club for £2m and running it right capturing the imagination of the town while doing so." and you are right, Wrexham have proved that but in what way does it help us Charlton fans to be told that? Well said. Maybe we should all start supporting (at least!) 3 teams like Reams does, sooner or later we should stumble on some good luck! We do get some exciteable people on here fair do's some with a wild imagination that they just let run away with them. I have made no secret of the fact that I haven't watched Charlton for over 18 monthsm, in protest against Sandgaard. That is my right. As for supporting three clubs?? Who exactly? The minute I stopped going to the Valley I posted it on here and made no secret of it, thousands of others have since followed the same suit! You can't possibly be a fan I was told and yet all of a sudden when it suits people they are one of three clubs I support!! Not going back over my past again for those who refuse to either respect or understand it. I have stopped watching us and won't go again for a long time, if ever. I still post on here but but allowing others to run it. This decision was taken instead of closing it as too many people didn't want that. |
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Post by jonkool on Apr 24, 2023 17:48:15 GMT
Jealousy is not an attractive trait, but I'm sure we all feel it! The irony is that Sangaard could have done all that (not got us into League 2, I mean, though he almost suceeded) and got all of the plaudits that those two have had. It would have involved making good decisions in appointing the right people and concentrating on the funding and marketing of the club to other investors rather than being an incompetent CEO. That what the Wrexham two have done and will have to keep doing if they want to move forward. I like what they have had to say so far, so well done Wrexham and good luck to their fans. The big difference, in my view, is that Reynolds and McElhenney wanted to be fans, and wanted to 'support' the club and the team. I've watched the TV show and they both come across as genuine and seem to want to be 'accepted' by the Wrexham fans, as one of their own. Sandgaard wanted to be 'adored' by the Charlton fans. Reynolds looks distraught in some clips when Wrexham, are losing and looks like I feel when they win. The clips of Reynolds in the pub show him having a drink and chatting to fans and the landlord. The clips of Sandgaard in the Oak show him playing his guitar to a small audience of fans. That is, in my view, the difference between Reynolds, McElhenney & Sandgaard. The success is, actually, irrelevant. It's the motivation and the modesty of the actors compared to the ego of the narcissist. Even if none of them were rich and/or famous I suspect that Reynolds and McElhenney would be good company and good fun to be around whereas I suspect that Sandgaard is neither. TS is displaying classic narcissistic behaviour whereas R & McE are just enjoying the ride as the fans have. |
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