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Post by revilo on Apr 5, 2023 7:08:40 GMT
'Exciting' is a bit over the top. We are currently 12th in the same shit league and we still don't know anything about the proposed takeover.
I'd say cautious is a more appropriate description.
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Post by manikin on Apr 5, 2023 8:01:00 GMT
I read somewhere on line yesterday that it's expected to be sorted by mid April but we have heard all that before, don't hold your breath.
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Post by seriouslyred on Apr 5, 2023 9:15:14 GMT
'Exciting' is a bit over the top. We are currently 12th in the same shit league and we still don't know anything about the proposed takeover. I'd say cautious is a more appropriate description. Was having the same discussion the other day. One could argue that we're roughly in the top nine on current form. But we have absolutely no idea what kind of players will be brought in over the summer. |
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Post by kings hill addick on Apr 5, 2023 9:15:18 GMT
ST done …. when you see the academy players playing like we did on Saturday and the ones we have coming through and the group behind them it’s exciting times at CAFC .. support the team . If it were not for the fact that you always default to thinking that everything at the club is great I suspect that your excitement might well wane when we lost at Bristol Rovers on Friday. I have to admit that the game last Saturday was very exciting and I feel more enthusiastic than I have for a long time but we all know that this was an outlier, and the team have not looked like winning by convincingly many times this season. In fact out of 39 games we have won 13. Only 7 of those games have been by more than one goal and of the 4 that we have won by three goals or more the opposition have had a red card in 3 of those games. You were always going to buy a season ticket BB, and I applaud you for it, but let's not pretend that one massive win is going to change many other people's minds. |
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Post by wellingaddick on Apr 5, 2023 12:54:42 GMT
So I got my season ticket reminder through the post this morning, on what can only be called a glorified postcard. Talk about cheapskate!
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Post by aaronaldo on Apr 5, 2023 13:10:13 GMT
So I got my season ticket reminder through the post this morning, on what can only be called a glorified postcard. Talk about cheapskate! Were you expecting a leather bound book? |
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Post by wellingaddick on Apr 5, 2023 13:34:01 GMT
So I got my season ticket reminder through the post this morning, on what can only be called a glorified postcard. Talk about cheapskate! Were you expecting a leather bound book? A letter, in a proper envelope maybe. Seems Sandgaard can't even afford that! |
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Post by revilo on Apr 5, 2023 13:52:43 GMT
So I got my season ticket reminder through the post this morning, on what can only be called a glorified postcard. Talk about cheapskate! I used mine to wipe my bum |
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Post by aaronaldo on Apr 5, 2023 13:59:54 GMT
Were you expecting a leather bound book? A letter, in a proper envelope maybe. Seems Sandgaard can't even afford that! I get the hate for Sandgaard but this seems a bit of a stretch. Could even have costed more? I personally don't see the issue. |
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Post by kings hill addick on Apr 5, 2023 14:27:23 GMT
So I got my season ticket reminder through the post this morning, on what can only be called a glorified postcard. Talk about cheapskate! Does it hade that shitty photo of Sandgaard pointing his fingers like he's holding a gun? |
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Post by essexaddick on Apr 5, 2023 15:44:19 GMT
ST done …. when you see the academy players playing like we did on Saturday and the ones we have coming through and the group behind them it’s exciting times at CAFC .. support the team . Any good ones will be sold in the summer. You won't see them. Leaburn will not be here next season. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Apr 5, 2023 18:07:35 GMT
ST done …. when you see the academy players playing like we did on Saturday and the ones we have coming through and the group behind them it’s exciting times at CAFC .. support the team . Any good ones will be sold in the summer. You won't see them. Leaburn will not be here next season. I really hope you’re wrong! |
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Post by sevenoaks on Apr 14, 2023 8:27:10 GMT
I have thought long and hard before posting this, as believe me I do not want any preferential treatment.
I have supported unbroken for 57 years and a season ticket holder for 40+ years unbroken, including Selhurst Park & Upton Park.
I sit in the West Stand where I have sat for most of the time back at the valley.
My late father had a season ticket with me until he passed away in 2004...
My late mother previously had a season ticket as did my two sons.
Boys now older and obviously do other things, but they do attend a few games, as is one for the last game of the season with gf, and that has cost £60 paid for willingly and our choice.
I attended many games in the 70s on Lewis coaches, and now for the last 12 years have done 99% of the away league games via coach...again my choice as following my team, is what I love doing.
I haven't missed a home game since 2007, friends daughters wedding, and that includes papa John's and meaningless friendlies..again my choice.
I last week wrote to Mr Storrie, regarding me reaching 65 on August 9th and not the cut off for August 1st..
I rang the club yesterday, for their decision, and was called back to say, that they had rejected as their were quite a few in my situation..
Now my Adult ticket would be £625 and over 65 £475.
But I can move to either side and pay £425 as an adult!.
My reason for not wanting to move is I would be paying £50 more, where I am sitting now..
That was the reason I politely asked Bexley Boy, how much his ticket was, as he says such a good deal...
Still no contact from the club, about the Bristol Rovers mess up either...
Please feel free to comment.
I am more upset, than angry.
Also sponsored a player, pandemic hit and I never once requested a refund of the £600 I paid..
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Post by kings hill addick on Apr 14, 2023 8:57:49 GMT
I have thought long and hard before posting this, as believe me I do not want any preferential treatment. I have supported unbroken for 57 years and a season ticket holder for 40+ years unbroken, including Selhurst Park & Upton Park. I sit in the West Stand where I have sat for most of the time back at the valley. My late father had a season ticket with me until he passed away in 2004... My late mother previously had a season ticket as did my two sons. Boys now older and obviously do other things, but they do attend a few games, as is one for the last game of the season with gf, and that has cost £60 paid for willingly and our choice. I attended many games in the 70s on Lewis coaches, and now for the last 12 years have done 99% of the away league games via coach...again my choice as following my team, is what I love doing. I haven't missed a home game since 2007, friends daughters wedding, and that includes papa John's and meaningless friendlies..again my choice. I last week wrote to Mr Storrie, regarding me reaching 65 on August 9th and not the cut off for August 1st.. I rang the club yesterday, for their decision, and was called back to say, that they had rejected as their were quite a few in my situation.. Now my Adult ticket would be £625 and over 65 £475. But I can move to either side and pay £425 as an adult!. My reason for not wanting to move is I would be paying £50 more, where I am sitting now.. That was the reason I politely asked Bexley Boy, how much his ticket was, as he says such a good deal... Still no contact from the club, about the Bristol Rovers mess up either... Please feel free to comment. I am more upset, than angry. Also sponsored a player, pandemic hit and I never once requested a refund of the £600 I paid.. Firstly, I would ask for the £600 player sponsor back then as soon as you bank it buy your season ticket and send the club a letter to tell them that you wouldn't have asked for the money back if they'd given you the discount. Or offer to let them keep the £600 if they give you the discount. However, I think it is a dangerous precedent to reduce prices because you're having a birthday a week after the cut off. I doubt that the club are approaching those that are 18 on 9th August and asking them to pay adult prices. Also if 9th August if ok, what about 9th September? What about 9th December? There has to be a cut-off and, as I say, it works both ways - discounts and price increases. One last point I would make, and this sounds callous, is that the club will have records of your previous behaviour so it is unlikely that you will be able to bluff them into believing that if they don't offer you a discount you will not renew at all. Last season was the first time I didn't buy a season ticket since the late 80s and none of my friends believed that I wouldn't buckle at the last minute. Chances are that the club would be correct believing that you will renew so why would they want to 'give money away'? Chances are, though, that you won't lose your seat (because it's expensive when ticket sales are gong to fall, again) so you could pay as you go. You might end up paying a little more but if the season goes well you, probably, won't mind and could get a half season ticket when it comes to it - you may even get over 65 by then. You could, also, buy a cheaper ticket and then sit in your normal seat. No one will question you as you've always sat there. My Dad and I have been to about ten games this season and sat in our normal seats (paid the full price - my dad is a retired Accountant) and those that we sit with just assumed that we had season tickets but missed games through choice. There is no doubt that loyalty with football clubs is one way. We are devoted to the clubs we support but the clubs (or those running them) don't give a s**t about fans just as long as we keep buying tickets and cheaply made shirts every season. Your loyalty and commitment should be applauded, but it won't be. |
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Post by sevenoaks on Apr 14, 2023 9:37:02 GMT
I have thought long and hard before posting this, as believe me I do not want any preferential treatment. I have supported unbroken for 57 years and a season ticket holder for 40+ years unbroken, including Selhurst Park & Upton Park. I sit in the West Stand where I have sat for most of the time back at the valley. My late father had a season ticket with me until he passed away in 2004... My late mother previously had a season ticket as did my two sons. Boys now older and obviously do other things, but they do attend a few games, as is one for the last game of the season with gf, and that has cost £60 paid for willingly and our choice. I attended many games in the 70s on Lewis coaches, and now for the last 12 years have done 99% of the away league games via coach...again my choice as following my team, is what I love doing. I haven't missed a home game since 2007, friends daughters wedding, and that includes papa John's and meaningless friendlies..again my choice. I last week wrote to Mr Storrie, regarding me reaching 65 on August 9th and not the cut off for August 1st.. I rang the club yesterday, for their decision, and was called back to say, that they had rejected as their were quite a few in my situation.. Now my Adult ticket would be £625 and over 65 £475. But I can move to either side and pay £425 as an adult!. My reason for not wanting to move is I would be paying £50 more, where I am sitting now.. That was the reason I politely asked Bexley Boy, how much his ticket was, as he says such a good deal... Still no contact from the club, about the Bristol Rovers mess up either... Please feel free to comment. I am more upset, than angry. Also sponsored a player, pandemic hit and I never once requested a refund of the £600 I paid.. Firstly, I would ask for the £600 player sponsor back then as soon as you bank it buy your season ticket and send the club a letter to tell them that you wouldn't have asked for the money back if they'd given you the discount. Or offer to let them keep the £600 if they give you the discount. However, I think it is a dangerous precedent to reduce prices because you're having a birthday a week after the cut off. I doubt that the club are approaching those that are 18 on 9th August and asking them to pay adult prices. Also if 9th August if ok, what about 9th September? What about 9th December? There has to be a cut-off and, as I say, it works both ways - discounts and price increases. One last point I would make, and this sounds callous, is that the club will have records of your previous behaviour so it is unlikely that you will be able to bluff them into believing that if they don't offer you a discount you will not renew at all. Last season was the first time I didn't buy a season ticket since the late 80s and none of my friends believed that I wouldn't buckle at the last minute. Chances are that the club would be correct believing that you will renew so why would they want to 'give money away'? Chances are, though, that you won't lose your seat (because it's expensive when ticket sales are gong to fall, again) so you could pay as you go. You might end up paying a little more but if the season goes well you, probably, won't mind and could get a half season ticket when it comes to it - you may even get over 65 by then. You could, also, buy a cheaper ticket and then sit in your normal seat. No one will question you as you've always sat there. My Dad and I have been to about ten games this season and sat in our normal seats (paid the full price - my dad is a retired Accountant) and those that we sit with just assumed that we had season tickets but missed games through choice. There is no doubt that loyalty with football clubs is one way. We are devoted to the clubs we support but the clubs (or those running them) don't give a s**t about fans just as long as we keep buying tickets and cheaply made shirts every season. Your loyalty and commitment should be applauded, but it won't be. Agree with s lot of what you say, but.. What I don't get is I will pay less for an adult ticket either side than I would Over 65 where I am now . I would not get the half year cheaper as it is as of the start of the season... It's not the money, it's the principle.... |
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Post by tonaddick on Apr 14, 2023 9:50:41 GMT
I have thought long and hard before posting this, as believe me I do not want any preferential treatment. I have supported unbroken for 57 years and a season ticket holder for 40+ years unbroken, including Selhurst Park & Upton Park. I sit in the West Stand where I have sat for most of the time back at the valley. My late father had a season ticket with me until he passed away in 2004... My late mother previously had a season ticket as did my two sons. Boys now older and obviously do other things, but they do attend a few games, as is one for the last game of the season with gf, and that has cost £60 paid for willingly and our choice. I attended many games in the 70s on Lewis coaches, and now for the last 12 years have done 99% of the away league games via coach...again my choice as following my team, is what I love doing. I haven't missed a home game since 2007, friends daughters wedding, and that includes papa John's and meaningless friendlies..again my choice. I last week wrote to Mr Storrie, regarding me reaching 65 on August 9th and not the cut off for August 1st.. I rang the club yesterday, for their decision, and was called back to say, that they had rejected as their were quite a few in my situation.. Now my Adult ticket would be £625 and over 65 £475. But I can move to either side and pay £425 as an adult!. My reason for not wanting to move is I would be paying £50 more, where I am sitting now.. That was the reason I politely asked Bexley Boy, how much his ticket was, as he says such a good deal... Still no contact from the club, about the Bristol Rovers mess up either... Please feel free to comment. I am more upset, than angry. Also sponsored a player, pandemic hit and I never once requested a refund of the £600 I paid.. Firstly, I would ask for the £600 player sponsor back then as soon as you bank it buy your season ticket and send the club a letter to tell them that you wouldn't have asked for the money back if they'd given you the discount. Or offer to let them keep the £600 if they give you the discount. However, I think it is a dangerous precedent to reduce prices because you're having a birthday a week after the cut off. I doubt that the club are approaching those that are 18 on 9th August and asking them to pay adult prices. Also if 9th August if ok, what about 9th September? What about 9th December? There has to be a cut-off and, as I say, it works both ways - discounts and price increases. One last point I would make, and this sounds callous, is that the club will have records of your previous behaviour so it is unlikely that you will be able to bluff them into believing that if they don't offer you a discount you will not renew at all. Last season was the first time I didn't buy a season ticket since the late 80s and none of my friends believed that I wouldn't buckle at the last minute. Chances are that the club would be correct believing that you will renew so why would they want to 'give money away'? Chances are, though, that you won't lose your seat (because it's expensive when ticket sales are gong to fall, again) so you could pay as you go. You might end up paying a little more but if the season goes well you, probably, won't mind and could get a half season ticket when it comes to it - you may even get over 65 by then. You could, also, buy a cheaper ticket and then sit in your normal seat. No one will question you as you've always sat there. My Dad and I have been to about ten games this season and sat in our normal seats (paid the full price - my dad is a retired Accountant) and those that we sit with just assumed that we had season tickets but missed games through choice. There is no doubt that loyalty with football clubs is one way. We are devoted to the clubs we support but the clubs (or those running them) don't give a s**t about fans just as long as we keep buying tickets and cheaply made shirts every season. Your loyalty and commitment should be applauded, but it won't be. Quick point on the turning 18 thing. My eldest turned 18 in the October and was asked to pay full price his season ticket that year, despite being 17 when we were looking to renew. That, plus the fact he had signed with a SCEFL team with Saturday commitments, helped to make the decision not to renew his ticket that year. They can't have it both ways with pensioners hitting the mark. |
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Post by sevenoaks on Apr 14, 2023 9:57:35 GMT
Again I agree, maybe it highlights the ridiculous pricing in the West Stand..
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Post by anthony55 on Apr 14, 2023 10:30:41 GMT
I've been supporting Charlton since 1966.
I've been a season ticket holder since our return to the Valley in 1992.
But I shall not be renewing until sandgaard and his family have sold up and funked off.
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Post by kings hill addick on Apr 14, 2023 10:45:23 GMT
Firstly, I would ask for the £600 player sponsor back then as soon as you bank it buy your season ticket and send the club a letter to tell them that you wouldn't have asked for the money back if they'd given you the discount. Or offer to let them keep the £600 if they give you the discount. However, I think it is a dangerous precedent to reduce prices because you're having a birthday a week after the cut off. I doubt that the club are approaching those that are 18 on 9th August and asking them to pay adult prices. Also if 9th August if ok, what about 9th September? What about 9th December? There has to be a cut-off and, as I say, it works both ways - discounts and price increases. One last point I would make, and this sounds callous, is that the club will have records of your previous behaviour so it is unlikely that you will be able to bluff them into believing that if they don't offer you a discount you will not renew at all. Last season was the first time I didn't buy a season ticket since the late 80s and none of my friends believed that I wouldn't buckle at the last minute. Chances are that the club would be correct believing that you will renew so why would they want to 'give money away'? Chances are, though, that you won't lose your seat (because it's expensive when ticket sales are gong to fall, again) so you could pay as you go. You might end up paying a little more but if the season goes well you, probably, won't mind and could get a half season ticket when it comes to it - you may even get over 65 by then. You could, also, buy a cheaper ticket and then sit in your normal seat. No one will question you as you've always sat there. My Dad and I have been to about ten games this season and sat in our normal seats (paid the full price - my dad is a retired Accountant) and those that we sit with just assumed that we had season tickets but missed games through choice. There is no doubt that loyalty with football clubs is one way. We are devoted to the clubs we support but the clubs (or those running them) don't give a s**t about fans just as long as we keep buying tickets and cheaply made shirts every season. Your loyalty and commitment should be applauded, but it won't be. Quick point on the turning 18 thing. My eldest turned 18 in the October and was asked to pay full price his season ticket that year, despite being 17 when we were looking to renew. That, plus the fact he had signed with a SCEFL team with Saturday commitments, helped to make the decision not to renew his ticket that year. They can't have it both ways with pensioners hitting the mark. I didn't know they did that, it doesn't seem fair although, I guess, that makes it under 17, rather than under 18. There is still a defined cut off though. It's just another example of misleading marketing - like the free drink vouchers and the discount in the club shop that was limited to one weekend only. There is no doubt that Sandgaard has been more disingenuous with his 'promises' and 'offers' than any other owner I remember, but I suspect that is, quite possibly, an American thing. with |
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Post by tonaddick on Apr 14, 2023 11:06:23 GMT
Quick point on the turning 18 thing. My eldest turned 18 in the October and was asked to pay full price his season ticket that year, despite being 17 when we were looking to renew. That, plus the fact he had signed with a SCEFL team with Saturday commitments, helped to make the decision not to renew his ticket that year. They can't have it both ways with pensioners hitting the mark. I didn't know they did that, it doesn't seem fair although, I guess, that makes it under 17, rather than under 18. There is still a defined cut off though. It's just another example of misleading marketing - like the free drink vouchers and the discount in the club shop that was limited to one weekend only. There is no doubt that Sandgaard has been more disingenuous with his 'promises' and 'offers' than any other owner I remember, but I suspect that is, quite possibly, an American thing. with It's 17 and under, as opposed to under 17. The problem is they weren't clear that you had be under 18 for the duration of the ticket. My youngest was a March birthday but we'd stopped going by then, but my understanding was that he'd have been full price at that point as well. My point was that if they take this approach to the under 18 tickets, surely they should take the same approach to the over 65 ticket. |
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Post by kings hill addick on Apr 14, 2023 11:11:50 GMT
Firstly, I would ask for the £600 player sponsor back then as soon as you bank it buy your season ticket and send the club a letter to tell them that you wouldn't have asked for the money back if they'd given you the discount. Or offer to let them keep the £600 if they give you the discount. However, I think it is a dangerous precedent to reduce prices because you're having a birthday a week after the cut off. I doubt that the club are approaching those that are 18 on 9th August and asking them to pay adult prices. Also if 9th August if ok, what about 9th September? What about 9th December? There has to be a cut-off and, as I say, it works both ways - discounts and price increases. One last point I would make, and this sounds callous, is that the club will have records of your previous behaviour so it is unlikely that you will be able to bluff them into believing that if they don't offer you a discount you will not renew at all. Last season was the first time I didn't buy a season ticket since the late 80s and none of my friends believed that I wouldn't buckle at the last minute. Chances are that the club would be correct believing that you will renew so why would they want to 'give money away'? Chances are, though, that you won't lose your seat (because it's expensive when ticket sales are gong to fall, again) so you could pay as you go. You might end up paying a little more but if the season goes well you, probably, won't mind and could get a half season ticket when it comes to it - you may even get over 65 by then. You could, also, buy a cheaper ticket and then sit in your normal seat. No one will question you as you've always sat there. My Dad and I have been to about ten games this season and sat in our normal seats (paid the full price - my dad is a retired Accountant) and those that we sit with just assumed that we had season tickets but missed games through choice. There is no doubt that loyalty with football clubs is one way. We are devoted to the clubs we support but the clubs (or those running them) don't give a s**t about fans just as long as we keep buying tickets and cheaply made shirts every season. Your loyalty and commitment should be applauded, but it won't be. Agree with s lot of what you say, but.. What I don't get is I will pay less for an adult ticket either side than I would Over 65 where I am now . I would not get the half year cheaper as it is as of the start of the season... It's not the money, it's the principle.... I get what you're saying but the price is the price. If they go down the road of price matching seats then, in the end, no one will pay the full price. The club is haemorrhaging money, the fans paying £285 for a season ticket, in the North Stand, are, in effect, paying less than half what my old seat, in the middle of the East Stand, costs. If the club start price matching, before we know where we are everyone will be paying the minimum. Even though we are all 'demanding' a new owner to come in and spend a fortune of his/her/their money on the team, FFP will, ultimately, limit what we can spend based on income. If the club is going to be successful income has to rise. My issue is with the quality of what's on offer, not the, actual, price. If we were to be in the Premier League and genuinely challenging to win it I'd, probably, be happy to pay the £1,800 plus that Arsenal fans are paying. As it stands I'll not be renewing but that's a decision based on the fact that I miss enough games each season that it's cheaper for me not to. You are comparing an over 65 seat in one section with an adult price in another section. It is not possible to be over 65 and an adult, at the same time, so it's not a comparison that the club are going to recognise. I suspect that the cheaper block would be even cheaper, than the middle one, if that's being sold to an over 65? The other thing that the club will be aware of is that we (like the UK) have an ageing fan base. With fewer and fewer young fans getting involved, while the football has been toilet, the club might, even, have to reduce the value of the discount for over seniors and/or increase the age. The state retirement age is, for my age group, 67, and for some it's 68, and it is likely to rise again at some point. I don't, actually, think it would be unreasonable for the club to raise the 'senior' qualification age now. Just for reference, with a date of birth of 9 Aug 58 the state retirement age is 66. |
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Post by kings hill addick on Apr 14, 2023 11:27:24 GMT
I didn't know they did that, it doesn't seem fair although, I guess, that makes it under 17, rather than under 18. There is still a defined cut off though. It's just another example of misleading marketing - like the free drink vouchers and the discount in the club shop that was limited to one weekend only. There is no doubt that Sandgaard has been more disingenuous with his 'promises' and 'offers' than any other owner I remember, but I suspect that is, quite possibly, an American thing. with It's 17 and under, as opposed to under 17. The problem is they weren't clear that you had be under 18 for the duration of the ticket. My youngest was a March birthday but we'd stopped going by then, but my understanding was that he'd have been full price at that point as well. My point was that if they take this approach to the under 18 tickets, surely they should take the same approach to the over 65 ticket. There's not much difference between 17 and under and under 17 though. It's one day. Or did you mean under 18? However if the club are insisting that the fans need to be in the correct age category for the whole year, i.e. 1st August to 1st August then it is consistent. - To quality for U18 you must be no older than 17 from 1st Aug 23 to 1st Aug 24 - To quality for senior you must be older than 65 from 1st Aug 23 to 1st Aug 24 I do agree that the club are being ungenerous with how they are applying these conditions but, as I say, I do see some consistency with it. |
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Post by sevenoaks on Apr 14, 2023 11:41:43 GMT
It's 17 and under, as opposed to under 17. The problem is they weren't clear that you had be under 18 for the duration of the ticket. My youngest was a March birthday but we'd stopped going by then, but my understanding was that he'd have been full price at that point as well. My point was that if they take this approach to the under 18 tickets, surely they should take the same approach to the over 65 ticket. There's not much difference between 17 and under and under 17 though. It's one day. Or did you mean under 18? However if the club are insisting that the fans need to be in the correct age category for the whole year, i.e. 1st August to 1st August then it is consistent. - To quality for U18 you must be no older than 17 from 1st Aug 23 to 1st Aug 24 - To quality for senior you must be older than 65 from 1st Aug 23 to 1st Aug 24 I do agree that the club are being ungenerous with how they are applying these conditions but, as I say, I do see some consistency with it. They are happy to take £50 less, for me to move my seat. That is my main gripe. Still no contact, or apology for Good Friday mess up. Plus an email to me on 12th, with details of upcoming match on 7th! I will end it there, just buy a cheaper seat, and don't do any package at club for birthday, which no doubt they will send me details of. |
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Post by kings hill addick on Apr 14, 2023 14:17:36 GMT
There's not much difference between 17 and under and under 17 though. It's one day. Or did you mean under 18? However if the club are insisting that the fans need to be in the correct age category for the whole year, i.e. 1st August to 1st August then it is consistent. - To quality for U18 you must be no older than 17 from 1st Aug 23 to 1st Aug 24 - To quality for senior you must be older than 65 from 1st Aug 23 to 1st Aug 24 I do agree that the club are being ungenerous with how they are applying these conditions but, as I say, I do see some consistency with it. They are happy to take £50 less, for me to move my seat. That is my main gripe. Still no contact, or apology for Good Friday mess up. Plus an email to me on 12th, with details of upcoming match on 7th! I will end it there, just buy a cheaper seat, and don't do any package at club for birthday, which no doubt they will send me details of. I don't want to be pedantic Sevenoaks and the club have made some shocking errors of late, and I do sympathise with you. I'm guessing your seat is in Zone 1 and the one you will change to is Zone 2. That makes the adult prices £625 and £425. and the Over 65s prices £475 and £320. On that basis if you are an adult the price difference is £200 and if you are an Over 65 it is £95. So you are, effectively, asking the club to sell you an adult ticket in Zone 1 at a £150 (24%) discount. There is nothing to stop all fans from calling the club and asking them to sell a £625 seat for £475 or accept £425 if they move seat. With all due respect, why should they? The pricing this season is on the basis that they are willing to lose £200 if you are willing to move your seat. From the club's point of view it's a no brainer for them to refuse to let you keep your seat for 'just' £50. Like I said before, as far as the club are concerned, you are an adult wherever you sit. However, the big issue is, as I've already mentioned, once it gets around that the club will offer discounts to individual fans to keep them from moving to a cheaper seat the flood gates will open, and the £625 tickets will all become £475. This will have a knock on effect to all ticket prices. Chances are the same number of tickets will be sold and only a small proportion will, actually, move seat so the club are increasing their revenue by sticking to the prices they published, opposed to allowing fans to choose their own prices. |
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Post by sevenoaks on Apr 14, 2023 14:28:40 GMT
Like I said, I will just move seats and save £200...
I am not choosing my seat price, for over 40 years I have paid...
August would be cut off as historically start of season..
I guess we will start around August the 5th....
I repeat, I was not choosing my ticket price, I asked them a polite question.
I have received my answer. So will move seat and thats it....
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Post by sevenoaks on Apr 14, 2023 14:44:03 GMT
Agree with s lot of what you say, but.. What I don't get is I will pay less for an adult ticket either side than I would Over 65 where I am now . I would not get the half year cheaper as it is as of the start of the season... It's not the money, it's the principle.... I get what you're saying but the price is the price. If they go down the road of price matching seats then, in the end, no one will pay the full price. The club is haemorrhaging money, the fans paying £285 for a season ticket, in the North Stand, are, in effect, paying less than half what my old seat, in the middle of the East Stand, costs. If the club start price matching, before we know where we are everyone will be paying the minimum. Even though we are all 'demanding' a new owner to come in and spend a fortune of his/her/their money on the team, FFP will, ultimately, limit what we can spend based on income. If the club is going to be successful income has to rise. My issue is with the quality of what's on offer, not the, actual, price. If we were to be in the Premier League and genuinely challenging to win it I'd, probably, be happy to pay the £1,800 plus that Arsenal fans are paying. As it stands I'll not be renewing but that's a decision based on the fact that I miss enough games each season that it's cheaper for me not to. You are comparing an over 65 seat in one section with an adult price in another section. It is not possible to be over 65 and an adult, at the same time, so it's not a comparison that the club are going to recognise. I suspect that the cheaper block would be even cheaper, than the middle one, if that's being sold to an over 65? The other thing that the club will be aware of is that we (like the UK) have an ageing fan base. With fewer and fewer young fans getting involved, while the football has been toilet, the club might, even, have to reduce the value of the discount for over seniors and/or increase the age. The state retirement age is, for my age group, 67, and for some it's 68, and it is likely to rise again at some point. I don't, actually, think it would be unreasonable for the club to raise the 'senior' qualification age now. Just for reference, with a date of birth of 9 Aug 58 the state retirement age is 66. Fully aware of my retirement age, as still working.. Thanks for clarifying... |
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Post by bexleyboy on Apr 14, 2023 14:59:25 GMT
ST done …. when you see the academy players playing like we did on Saturday and the ones we have coming through and the group behind them it’s exciting times at CAFC .. support the team . Any good ones will be sold in the summer. You won't see them. Leaburn will not be here next season. Yes he will … just listen to his mum talking sense about where he is in his career and the club have said none of the younger players that are in and around the first team will be sold .. |
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Post by manikin on Apr 14, 2023 15:28:58 GMT
Any good ones will be sold in the summer. You won't see them. Leaburn will not be here next season. Yes he will … just listen to his mum talking sense about where he is in his career and the club have said none of the younger players that are in and around the first team will be sold .. I hope you are right. |
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Post by essexaddick on Apr 14, 2023 16:39:53 GMT
Any good ones will be sold in the summer. You won't see them. Leaburn will not be here next season. Yes he will … just listen to his mum talking sense about where he is in his career and the club have said none of the younger players that are in and around the first team will be sold .. And you honestly believe them? If a suitable offer comes in they will sell. If you believe that won't happen you are more stupid than I thought. |
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Post by bigandy99 on May 1, 2023 11:38:45 GMT
Said before owners come and go .. managers and players come and go …. But I am there come what May to support the 11 red shirts on the pitch . ST will be brought as soon as announced Bexley, all you’ve done is give Sandgaard some money to keep the lights on a bit longer.. if, as a fanbase, we hold out, it might just force a sale by keep £1-2 million out of the coffers for him to steal.. just my opinion.. |
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