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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2023 19:21:20 GMT
You have been posting on here lately like its fact though. FFS for the last time I have posted on here what I have been told by someone who would know. When it happens then it is a fact. Why can't you understand? I will not post anymore on the Takeover because the reactions on here are doing my head in. That may be for the best. |
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Post by clarky on Feb 1, 2023 19:33:24 GMT
My personal advice after yesterday would be to treat Methven and what comes out of his mouth with the highest degree of scepticism. He’s very much another Sandgaard, in that believes what comes out of his mouth at the time he says it. He’s denying that any money has been made / siphoned off in January 🤥 and for a guy who’s claimed to have three US billionaires backing him, it’s very strange to hear him now talking about consolidating in the top 10 (Top Ten…) of League One. I don't and never have trusted CM but I do see him as nothing more than the broker or middle man and expect him to disappear reasonably quickly after the deal is done. What he said maybe true in that no money was made in January if it went straight into paying off bills running costs etc, so basically manipulating the facts. With regard to consolidating in the top 10 in L1 I thought somebody else also said that but were referring to this season! If we were to achieve that this season then I would now be pleasantly surprised. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2023 19:40:43 GMT
We have three people on this thread who are posting from a position of inside knowledge.
Two of them assure us their source is beyond reproach but cannot be identified.
The third, while backing up what the other two are saying, states that what he himself is posting is being passed on in good faith but is actually nothing more than rumours until future events turn them into facts. But he is affronted when some other fans treat what he is posting with doubt and scepticism - exactly how fans who've been misled countless times in the last few years will naturally react when reading rumours.
And (broadly speaking) nobody else knows anything at all, and many are hanging on in the desperate hope of another crumb of enlightenment.
Fans are having their hopes and fears played on more than a little here.
Are the people with access to knowledge they cannot reveal from sources they cannot identify aware of the effect they are having on fellow fans? Of the power their knowledge gives them over others who don't have it?
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Post by reamsofverse on Feb 1, 2023 19:46:39 GMT
We have three people on this thread who are posting from a position of inside knowledge. Two of them assure us their source is beyond reproach but cannot be identified. The third, while backing up what the other two are saying, states that what he himself is posting is nothing more than rumours until future events turn them into facts. But he is affronted when some other fans treat what he is posting with doubt and scepticism - exactly how fans who've been misled countless times in the last few years will naturally react when reading rumours. And (broadly speaking) nobody else knows anything at all, and many are hanging on in the desperate hope of another crumb of enlightenment. Fans are having their hopes and fears played on more than a little here. Are the people with access to knowledge they cannot reveal from sources they cannot identify aware of the effect they are having on fellow fans? Of the power their knowledge gives them over others who don't have it? Power? Jeez lardi you don't half overthink things. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2023 20:01:34 GMT
Nothing wrong with power as such - somebody has to have it.
But with power comes responsibility. Something Thomas Sandgaard fails to acknowledge, as does the Landlord. Good leadership welcomes free expression and even scepticism, it does not see those things as threats.
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Post by clarky on Feb 1, 2023 20:02:04 GMT
We have three people on this thread who are posting from a position of inside knowledge. Two of them assure us their source is beyond reproach but cannot be identified. The third, while backing up what the other two are saying, states that what he himself is posting is being passed on in good faith but is actually nothing more than rumours until future events turn them into facts. But he is affronted when some other fans treat what he is posting with doubt and scepticism - exactly how fans who've been misled countless times in the last few years will naturally react when reading rumours. And (broadly speaking) nobody else knows anything at all, and many are hanging on in the desperate hope of another crumb of enlightenment. Fans are having their hopes and fears played on more than a little here. Are the people with access to knowledge they cannot reveal from sources they cannot identify aware of the effect they are having on fellow fans? Of the power their knowledge gives them over others who don't have it? Of course they are rumours until anything is settled, but if you asked those on this forum if they want to hear the information being picked up and reported back on this thread then the overwhelming majority would be in favour. Those who don't want to hear it could simply ignore this thread. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2023 20:04:46 GMT
If it wasn’t power you wouldn’t need it and give it up. Superman’s Dad said that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2023 20:10:26 GMT
We have three people on this thread who are posting from a position of inside knowledge. Two of them assure us their source is beyond reproach but cannot be identified. The third, while backing up what the other two are saying, states that what he himself is posting is being passed on in good faith but is actually nothing more than rumours until future events turn them into facts. But he is affronted when some other fans treat what he is posting with doubt and scepticism - exactly how fans who've been misled countless times in the last few years will naturally react when reading rumours. And (broadly speaking) nobody else knows anything at all, and many are hanging on in the desperate hope of another crumb of enlightenment. Fans are having their hopes and fears played on more than a little here. Are the people with access to knowledge they cannot reveal from sources they cannot identify aware of the effect they are having on fellow fans? Of the power their knowledge gives them over others who don't have it? Of course they are rumours until anything is settled, but if you asked those on this forum if they want to hear the information being picked up and reported back on this thread then the overwhelming majority would be in favour. Those who don't want to hear it could simply ignore this thread. But they don’t. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2023 20:13:20 GMT
We have three people on this thread who are posting from a position of inside knowledge. Two of them assure us their source is beyond reproach but cannot be identified. The third, while backing up what the other two are saying, states that what he himself is posting is being passed on in good faith but is actually nothing more than rumours until future events turn them into facts. But he is affronted when some other fans treat what he is posting with doubt and scepticism - exactly how fans who've been misled countless times in the last few years will naturally react when reading rumours. And (broadly speaking) nobody else knows anything at all, and many are hanging on in the desperate hope of another crumb of enlightenment. Fans are having their hopes and fears played on more than a little here. Are the people with access to knowledge they cannot reveal from sources they cannot identify aware of the effect they are having on fellow fans? Of the power their knowledge gives them over others who don't have it? There is no power in peddling rumours anyone can do it. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Feb 1, 2023 20:16:06 GMT
We have three people on this thread who are posting from a position of inside knowledge. Two of them assure us their source is beyond reproach but cannot be identified. The third, while backing up what the other two are saying, states that what he himself is posting is being passed on in good faith but is actually nothing more than rumours until future events turn them into facts. But he is affronted when some other fans treat what he is posting with doubt and scepticism - exactly how fans who've been misled countless times in the last few years will naturally react when reading rumours. And (broadly speaking) nobody else knows anything at all, and many are hanging on in the desperate hope of another crumb of enlightenment. Fans are having their hopes and fears played on more than a little here. Are the people with access to knowledge they cannot reveal from sources they cannot identify aware of the effect they are having on fellow fans? Of the power their knowledge gives them over others who don't have it? There is no power in peddling rumours anyone can do it. Think you need to have a night off here fella. I don't appreciate being accused of posting rumours on here. I have more to do with my time. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2023 20:23:30 GMT
There is no power in peddling rumours anyone can do it. Think you need to have a night off here fella. I don't appreciate being accused of posting rumours on here. I have more to do with my time. So your posting facts and Dicks posting rumours even though you seem to be getting the same info. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2023 20:33:12 GMT
Think you need to have a night off here fella. I don't appreciate being accused of posting rumours on here. I have more to do with my time. So your posting facts and Dicks posting rumours even though you seem to be getting the same info. The rumours that Reams gets are from a different source to mine. |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Feb 1, 2023 20:33:54 GMT
Of course they are rumours until anything is settled, but if you asked those on this forum if they want to hear the information being picked up and reported back on this thread then the overwhelming majority would be in favour. Those who don't want to hear it could simply ignore this thread. But they don’t. Backing up Clarky here, I don't get why some feel the need to belittle the comments made by posters who are only passing on what they are hearing I get it that you may think it is all nonsense but just jog on then and ignore the posts I for one really appreciate hearing any insights coming out of the club from Dick, Reams & WLA so please keep on posting and people can make their own minds up if they think it is authentic or not Interestingly I am sure that I read that Cawley is also confirming that he is hearing very similar things and he generally is on the money..... Lets just see how this plays out |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2023 20:35:19 GMT
There is no power in peddling rumours anyone can do it. Think you need to have a night off here fella. I don't appreciate being accused of posting rumours on here. I have more to do with my time. Paul to be fair on your original OP you said that you took a planned call from a Charlton Businessman. So I assume you have known him less than 5 days and are you absolutely sure he is bona fide? You have put your neck on the block for this guy and his information. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2023 20:36:36 GMT
Backing up Clarky here, I don't get why some feel the need to belittle the comments made by posters who are only passing on what they are hearing I get it that you may think it is all nonsense but just jog on then and ignore the posts I for one really appreciate hearing any insights coming out of the club from Dick, Reams & WLA so please keep on posting and people can make their own minds up if they think it is authentic or not Interestingly I am sure that I read that Cawley is also confirming that he is hearing very similar things and he generally is on the money..... Lets just see how this plays out See lardi reply above and this is a forum of discussion….. |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Feb 1, 2023 20:41:40 GMT
Backing up Clarky here, I don't get why some feel the need to belittle the comments made by posters who are only passing on what they are hearing I get it that you may think it is all nonsense but just jog on then and ignore the posts I for one really appreciate hearing any insights coming out of the club from Dick, Reams & WLA so please keep on posting and people can make their own minds up if they think it is authentic or not Interestingly I am sure that I read that Cawley is also confirming that he is hearing very similar things and he generally is on the money..... Lets just see how this plays out See lardi reply above and this is a forum of discussion….. I get the forum of discussion fine..... but it's the piss taking and sarcasm that looks to me like peeps are just on a wind up to get people going..... |
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Post by reamsofverse on Feb 1, 2023 20:41:45 GMT
Backing up Clarky here, I don't get why some feel the need to belittle the comments made by posters who are only passing on what they are hearing I get it that you may think it is all nonsense but just jog on then and ignore the posts I for one really appreciate hearing any insights coming out of the club from Dick, Reams & WLA so please keep on posting and people can make their own minds up if they think it is authentic or not Interestingly I am sure that I read that Cawley is also confirming that he is hearing very similar things and he generally is on the money..... Lets just see how this plays out See lardi reply above and this is a forum of discussion….. It's not exactly discussion though is it when one or two bed wetters come out and accuse others of making up or passing on rumours. I deal in facts not fiction. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2023 20:49:17 GMT
See lardi reply above and this is a forum of discussion….. It's not exactly discussion though is it when one or two bed wetters come out and accuse others of making up or passing on rumours. I deal in facts not fiction. Not a bedwetter Paul just very cautious. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2023 20:50:07 GMT
See lardi reply above and this is a forum of discussion….. It's not exactly discussion though is it when one or two bed wetters come out and accuse others of making up or passing on rumours. I deal in facts not fiction. But Dick said it is rumour??? If it helps I believe you. Your message is diluted when we have another ITK poster saying contrary things! I have not wet the bed for weeks. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2023 20:57:10 GMT
We have three people on this thread who are posting from a position of inside knowledge. Two of them assure us their source is beyond reproach but cannot be identified. The third, while backing up what the other two are saying, states that what he himself is posting is being passed on in good faith but is actually nothing more than rumours until future events turn them into facts. But he is affronted when some other fans treat what he is posting with doubt and scepticism - exactly how fans who've been misled countless times in the last few years will naturally react when reading rumours. And (broadly speaking) nobody else knows anything at all, and many are hanging on in the desperate hope of another crumb of enlightenment. Fans are having their hopes and fears played on more than a little here. Are the people with access to knowledge they cannot reveal from sources they cannot identify aware of the effect they are having on fellow fans? Of the power their knowledge gives them over others who don't have it? Lardi - this is one of your many hobby horses on forums 🤦♂️😭 As for me, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again - I’ve never wanted a role or a job at CAFC, or wanted to sell a fanzine on the back of a club I have supported since the 1970s…unlike some. All of my info is shared privately at times with posters I am sure people will agree are beyond reproach including @dickplumb and Mundell and a couple of others who have since left ITTV. I have screenshots of all my info which I am always without fail willing to back up. A poster from ITTV I met at a recent game can vouch for that. I hope this settles your fevered mind. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2023 21:02:09 GMT
I really take offence to your remarks Lardiman. Time for a break I think.
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Post by Mundell on Feb 1, 2023 21:16:34 GMT
This discussion is going from the sublime to the ridiculous. I have a question for all those who are deeply cynical of the information being posted on a possible takeover.
Suppose, hypothetically, that having been given some information from a source you trust, you decide, in good faith, to share it on this Forum, only to find that what you’ve said is treated not simply with a healthy scepticism, but with derision by some while others accuse you of having made it up? What would you think about that? How would you react?
My guess is that you’d be fairly irritated while at the same time be struggling to understand what on earth the problem was. It’s not as if anyone is being asked to put their life’s savings at risk or indeed to take any action whatsoever based on the information being posted. We’re not in a court of law where everything any of us says has to be proven beyond any reasonable doubt.
I find it all quite bizarre, but as ever that’s just my personal perspective. I for one hope that those who have information to share will continue to do so.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2023 21:20:58 GMT
On the same day that fans have been met with a wall of silence from the club on what is going on, fans who have contacted people to try to find out are being criticised for it. Err….
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Post by aucklandaddick on Feb 1, 2023 21:21:03 GMT
This discussion is going from the sublime to the ridiculous. I have a question for all those who are deeply cynical of the information being posted on a possible takeover. Suppose, hypothetically, that having been given some information from a source you trust, you decide, in good faith, to share it on this Forum, only to find that what you’ve said is treated not simply with a healthy scepticism, but with derision by some while others accuse you of having made it up? What would you think about that? How would you react? My guess is that you’d be fairly irritated while at the same time be struggling to understand what on earth the problem was. It’s not as if anyone is being asked to put their life’s savings at risk or indeed to take any action whatsoever based on the information being posted. We’re not in a court of law where everything any of us says has to be proven beyond any reasonable doubt. I find it all quite bizarre, but as ever that’s just my personal perspective. I for one hope that those who have information to share will continue to do so. Spot on fella |
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Post by valleyfaithful on Feb 1, 2023 21:24:43 GMT
People post what they do in good faith. Nothing is fact until the ink is dry. Sometimes certified sources can give an indication of where proceedings are at any given time but it can change on a dime.
Read between the lines of what’s happening at the club, compare that with the bits of info we get given on here. Nobody is a liar here and nobody can be 1000% sure of what’s happening unless they’re part of the takeover or have been given hard evidence.
Take it or leave it is the ultimate message. No need to have shots at people in the meantime for passing on why they’re allowed to.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2023 21:29:19 GMT
This discussion is going from the sublime to the ridiculous. I have a question for all those who are deeply cynical of the information being posted on a possible takeover. Suppose, hypothetically, that having been given some information from a source you trust, you decide, in good faith, to share it on this Forum, only to find that what you’ve said is treated not simply with a healthy scepticism, but with derision by some while others accuse you of having made it up? What would you think about that? How would you react? My guess is that you’d be fairly irritated while at the same time be struggling to understand what on earth the problem was. It’s not as if anyone is being asked to put their life’s savings at risk or indeed to take any action whatsoever based on the information being posted. We’re not in a court of law where everything any of us says has to be proven beyond any reasonable doubt. I find it all quite bizarre, but as ever that’s just my personal perspective. I for one hope that those who have information to share will continue to do so. Thanks for that Mundell I agree with every word, I just don't understand what people's problem is. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2023 21:32:27 GMT
This discussion is going from the sublime to the ridiculous. I have a question for all those who are deeply cynical of the information being posted on a possible takeover. Suppose, hypothetically, that having been given some information from a source you trust, you decide, in good faith, to share it on this Forum, only to find that what you’ve said is treated not simply with a healthy scepticism, but with derision by some while others accuse you of having made it up? What would you think about that? How would you react? My guess is that you’d be fairly irritated while at the same time be struggling to understand what on earth the problem was. It’s not as if anyone is being asked to put their life’s savings at risk or indeed to take any action whatsoever based on the information being posted. We’re not in a court of law where everything any of us says has to be proven beyond any reasonable doubt. I find it all quite bizarre, but as ever that’s just my personal perspective. I for one hope that those who have information to share will continue to do so. We are in the the court of public opinion as Simon Jordan would say and this is a forum. And people rely on this forum and it’s content to be fair and balanced and most of all tested. That is what Reams has said on many occasions. And if you read carefully there is huge conflict between what is being asked by posters and what is being responded to. Poor lardi has been banned (I think) for making a point which to my mind was rational and fair. Surely that can go to the VAR And nobody has questioned the veracity of the posts just the origins of the contacts making them who which is fair? What about Richard Murray and the shares fiasco? We had our pants pulled down on that one didn’t we? |
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Post by revilo on Feb 1, 2023 21:42:16 GMT
This discussion is going from the sublime to the ridiculous. I have a question for all those who are deeply cynical of the information being posted on a possible takeover. Suppose, hypothetically, that having been given some information from a source you trust, you decide, in good faith, to share it on this Forum, only to find that what you’ve said is treated not simply with a healthy scepticism, but with derision by some while others accuse you of having made it up? What would you think about that? How would you react? My guess is that you’d be fairly irritated while at the same time be struggling to understand what on earth the problem was. It’s not as if anyone is being asked to put their life’s savings at risk or indeed to take any action whatsoever based on the information being posted. We’re not in a court of law where everything any of us says has to be proven beyond any reasonable doubt. I find it all quite bizarre, but as ever that’s just my personal perspective. I for one hope that those who have information to share will continue to do so. Thanks for that Mundell I agree with every word, I just don't understand what people's problem is. Haters mate, not worth your breath. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2023 22:12:10 GMT
Update -
Hearing that Methven says the club turned down offers worth “many millions” yesterday for among others Ness, Dobson and Leaburn. The normal caveat applies *
(* the source doesn’t tell the truth)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2023 1:03:40 GMT
We are in the the court of public opinion as Simon Jordan would say and this is a forum. And people rely on this forum and it’s content to be fair and balanced and most of all tested. That is what Reams has said on many occasions. And if you read carefully there is huge conflict between what is being asked by posters and what is being responded to. Poor lardi has been banned (I think) for making a point which to my mind was rational and fair. Surely that can go to the VAR And nobody has questioned the veracity of the posts just the origins of the contacts making them who which is fair? What about Richard Murray and the shares fiasco? We had our pants pulled down on that one didn’t we? I'm still around @mildred no worries. The truth is - and this is from a 100% reliable source  - I went off and had a rather good supper after my previous post, then nodded off for a few hours. I think I'll take the advice offered a short while back though, and not post anything more in this particular thread. I've nothing to offer by way of information, and my opinion is on record. Naturally I hope that good things are coming, as reamsofverse has suggested. God knows we could do with some good news. |
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