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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 28, 2022 9:17:50 GMT
That is the long and short of it given the tweets that have emerged overnight.
Time to force these low lives out of our club.
Unlike another forum we are all about transparency on here. If things need to be said then say them and I will be happy to put them on this form, just contact me.
If anyone works at the club or knows somebody that does who wants to speak out about Sandgaard and Maloney then feel free to point them in my direction. Happy to give you my personal details in a DM.
Bullies have no place in society let alone football.
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Post by 19addickted96 on Aug 28, 2022 9:35:50 GMT
Surely you have to insert the tweets
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2022 9:40:41 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2022 9:40:55 GMT
Tweets are from @ruipin2022
They deserve a wider audience on ITTV.
I’m told the account was created by multiple staffers, aggrieved at the way the Sandgaard’s are running the club.
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Post by valleyfaithful on Aug 28, 2022 9:41:22 GMT
I haven't seen any tweets myself, but for first hand accounts I'm sure the likes of Olly, Dan Burke, Sue Gallop etc might be able to help.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2022 9:48:56 GMT
I have put the Tweets up. Bullying has no place at work or anywhere. It is Cowards who are bully’s.
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Post by manikin on Aug 28, 2022 10:13:02 GMT
Bullying is about as low as it gets, time for a change!
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Post by AndyAddick on Aug 28, 2022 10:33:04 GMT
Would appear that the 2 idiots are totally unaware of UK employment law , I’m sure most of you know in the US contracts arnt worth the paper they are written on with a culture of hire them & fire them as and when you want !!!
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Post by wiggyatthebackpost on Aug 28, 2022 11:43:00 GMT
Bloody disgusting behaviour and Dolly Parton job is to do with mental health. You couldn't make this shit up.
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Post by aaronaldo on Aug 28, 2022 11:55:28 GMT
Assuming this is verified, are Olly etc. taking legal action?
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 28, 2022 12:08:02 GMT
Assuming this is verified, are Olly etc. taking legal action? Irrelevant really. Bullying s clearly going on and those doing it need to be stopped. Some Charlton fans were applauding the Danish goon at Wycombe yesterday which is sickening ally when they know what's gong on the long standing staff. They and Sandgaard deserve each other. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2022 12:24:54 GMT
Assuming this is verified, are Olly etc. taking legal action? Irrelevant. Condemn the behaviour. It’s come from multiple sources now. It’s endemic within the club. |
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Post by petetongthereturn on Aug 28, 2022 12:52:13 GMT
Unless Garner produces a miracle and we get promoted Sandgaard is going to lose another 2k of season ticket holders next season.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2022 13:30:15 GMT
Assuming this is verified, are Olly etc. taking legal action? Irrelevant. Condemn the behaviour. It’s come from multiple sources now. It’s endemic within the club. Not sure I agree with this with have a legal system to deal with inequality maybe let the tribunal deal with this when all the evidence is disclosed rather than pitchfork justice. I prefer to hear both sides first. Although TS is probably still being a prick. |
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Aug 28, 2022 14:11:40 GMT
Assuming this is verified, are Olly etc. taking legal action? Olly Groome follows that Twitter poster. Rick Everitt has confirmed the content of the posts equates to what he has heard directly from several club staff. I think it's pretty safe to say that the claims are legitimate. As for next steps, getting Maloney deported for acting in a professional capacity without a valid UK work visa would be a good start imho. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Aug 28, 2022 14:34:23 GMT
Assuming this is verified, are Olly etc. taking legal action? Olly Groome follows that Twitter poster. Rick Everitt has confirmed the content of the posts equates to what he has heard directly from several club staff. I think it's pretty safe to say that the claims are legitimate. As for next steps, getting Maloney deported for acting in a professional capacity without a valid UK work visa would be a good start imho. Sounds like it. I don’t like to comment until things are verified. Something needs to be done if true, which it seems to be. We have employment laws in the UK for a reason. If we want to do anything about it then we’d surely need those involved to attack this legally. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 28, 2022 16:48:15 GMT
Going to be making a few calls on Tuesday morning.
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Post by ExeterAddick on Aug 28, 2022 18:23:50 GMT
One of those where of course everyone condemns bullying, but essentially if we were top of the Championship right now everyone would be calling it a non issue and sweeping it under the rug.
All of these things ultimately come down to our performances on the pitch.
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Post by thesunisred on Aug 28, 2022 18:43:46 GMT
One of those where of course everyone condemns bullying, but essentially if we were top of the Championship right now everyone would be calling it a non issue and sweeping it under the rug. All of these things ultimately come down to our performances on the pitch. Not true for everyone. I've always wanted to be proud of my club and the way its staff and players conduct themselves on and off the pitch. Of course results matter, and maybe I'm old fashioned, but it's not just about what you achieve, it's the way that you achieve it. |
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Post by ExeterAddick on Aug 28, 2022 19:00:44 GMT
One of those where of course everyone condemns bullying, but essentially if we were top of the Championship right now everyone would be calling it a non issue and sweeping it under the rug. All of these things ultimately come down to our performances on the pitch. Not true for everyone. I've always wanted to be proud of my club and the way its staff and players conduct themselves on and off the pitch. Of course results matter, and maybe I'm old fashioned, but it's not just about what you achieve, it's the way that you achieve it. Fair enough, bit of a generalisation from me, but I can't help think that some of the people suddenly outraged by accusations of bullying and unfair dismisals would be the same mob telling people to "man up" and other such nonsense if the same accusations were made towards a regime leading us to glory. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Aug 28, 2022 19:27:28 GMT
Re: The thread title. No one supports those two.
We support Charlton and tolerate the current ownership. That’s how it is imo.
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 28, 2022 19:44:07 GMT
One of those where of course everyone condemns bullying, but essentially if we were top of the Championship right now everyone would be calling it a non issue and sweeping it under the rug. All of these things ultimately come down to our performances on the pitch. Duchatelet gave Bowyer a squad that got promotion from L1. It wasn't enough to stop the bullyboys though was it. People should never turn a blind eye to bullying and it should never be played down because of how well your football team are doing. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 28, 2022 19:45:33 GMT
Re: The thread title. No one supports those two. We support Charlton and tolerate the current ownership. That’s how it is imo. Well few Sandgaard man lovers were clapping him yesterday. Probably the same idiots who were abusing RD. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Aug 28, 2022 20:25:10 GMT
Re: The thread title. No one supports those two. We support Charlton and tolerate the current ownership. That’s how it is imo. Well few Sandgaard man lovers were clapping him yesterday. Probably the same idiots who were abusing RD. Some people support the club no matter what and aren’t aware of the ongoing behind the scenes. I imagine as a percentage of supporters, it’s only a very small number of those who use social media enough to unearth these things. I don’t think we can knock them for that. It’ll be the same for all teams, where the majority of most fan bases don’t care about social media and ‘rumours’. |
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Post by canterburyaddick on Aug 29, 2022 0:24:34 GMT
There is no situation where bullying of any type is acceptable and particularly in the workplace. I would be interested to know who Rui Pinto is and what are the specific alegations. I can't say that the tweets attached have much real value other than showing that there would seem to be a number of disgruntled employees who claim that Sangaard's wife is throwing her weight around.
As mentioned above, you would hope that your club would look after its employees, but there is also a danger of fans going off half cocked and ending up in hot water themselves. And it was more than a few fans applauding Sangaard by the way, certainly within my sight. Exeter and Aaronaldo have the more balanced view imo.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2022 6:36:12 GMT
any action against TS or Maloney real or imagined can be counterproductive. It can really screw up any negotiations Ollie may be having over severance pay or be seen in some quarters as a call to arms.
Maybe Ollie should be allowed to deal with this in his own way or at the very least be aware or approve of any action taken on his behalf.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2022 7:24:59 GMT
The visa comment is an interesting one, particularly as Rick Everitt has said that Moloney is now effectively head of every department at the club.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2022 8:11:04 GMT
The visa comment is an interesting one, particularly as Rick Everitt has said that Moloney is now effectively head of every department at the club. A number of factors need to be taken into consideration when looking at that. 1. We do not know what company sacked Ollie. 2. We do not know on what grounds. 3. If Moloney does not have a work visa does that mean he has acted ultra vires or beyond his authority? highly doubtful. It could be he does not need a visa as we have no idea who he is employed by Amd in what capacity? 4. The letter of dismissal can be signed by an agent acting on or behalf of the company 5. I suspect that Uk lawyers would have drafted the dismissal letter. 6. Rick whatsinitforme Everitt has a habit of stirring the pot to suit his own agenda. The focus should be letting Ollie deal with this himself unless he says otherwise. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2022 9:38:35 GMT
The visa comment is an interesting one, particularly as Rick Everitt has said that Moloney is now effectively head of every department at the club. A number of factors need to be taken into consideration when looking at that. 1. We do not know what company sacked Ollie. 2. We do not know on what grounds. 3. If Moloney does not have a work visa does that mean he has acted ultra vires or beyond his authority? highly doubtful. It could be he does not need a visa as we have no idea who he is employed by Amd in what capacity? 4. The letter of dismissal can be signed by an agent acting on or behalf of the company 5. I suspect that Uk lawyers would have drafted the dismissal letter. 6. Rick whatsinitforme Everitt has a habit of stirring the pot to suit his own agenda. The focus should be letting Ollie deal with this himself unless he says otherwise. Raelyn Moloney is a she not a he and the live-in partner of Sandgaard, as everyone else on here knows.
The work visa issue is just stupidity as she could apply for one very easily as the partner of the owner of the business. Does she hold any formal salaried post at CAFC? If not she probably argues that she doesn't needs one.
Nothing said on social media is going to have any material bearing on Groome's unfair dismissal case or a potential employment tribunal, so not sure why you keep raising that as a 'hands off' warning?
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Post by willett on Aug 29, 2022 17:50:54 GMT
There’s a decent post on the Facebook Fans Group today about how fans should be treating others fans and RS has liked it.
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