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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 30, 2022 11:57:36 GMT
Nottingham Forest are still trying to sign Blackpool winger Josh Bowler. They may use part of the fee to buy Kirk.
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Post by aaronaldo on Aug 30, 2022 12:07:06 GMT
Nottingham Forest are still trying to sign Blackpool winger Josh Bowler. They may use part of the fee to buy Kirk. Surely, this is happening too late in the day for us to be interested. It’s like buying a property in a massive chain. Someone is going to not get what they want and pull out of the deal last minute and everything goes tits up. We may have a replacement lined up but is that clubs willing to let them go? Also, Kirk’s looked good so far. He should kick on this year. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2022 12:08:13 GMT
Genuine question, why do we moan when we expose our younger players to the first team but yet when other clubs do it and play then regularly, it seems perfectly acceptable. Whats the point in having a youth system if you dont play them. The likes of Clayden, Leaburn are ready for first team football. Making mistakes is part of becoming the player you eventually become. It’s nonsense saying its cheap blah blah. We didnt say that with Gomez, Lookman etc so it shouldn’t be any different. Would Rooney have got his move to Manchester United if Everton didn’t play him at 16. Would Bellingham have scored againat us at 16 and got his move to Borussia Dortmund if Birmingham didn’t play him??? If you are good enough your old enough to play. Youngsters are integrated in a team that has quality all it to help them learn. They are only ready because the owner is a penny pinching bastard who promises this that and the other buy delivers fuck all. No academy kids in the top teams in the division that I can see. What quality they need they pay for it. By the way, Miles Leaburn is an up and coming player but he is being forced to learn too quickly. As Paul says, "youngsters are integrated in a team that has quality to help them learn." I remember Pardew and/or Parkinson saying the problem with Shelvey when he was 16/17 was that he was too talented to play in the Charlton side, because peforming alongside players of inferior quality was not only holding back his development but actually risked making him a worse player. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2022 12:27:13 GMT
Nottingham Forest are still trying to sign Blackpool winger Josh Bowler. They may use part of the fee to buy Kirk. Surely, this is happening too late in the day for us to be interested. It’s like buying a property in a massive chain. Someone is going to not get what they want and pull out of the deal last minute and everything goes tits up. We may have a replacement lined up but is that clubs willing to let them go? Also, Kirk’s looked good so far. He should kick on this year. Kirk hasn’t looked good so far - he’s looked better than he did last season, which isn’t the same thing. At Wycombe he looked more one footed than Long John Silver. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Aug 30, 2022 12:30:27 GMT
Surely, this is happening too late in the day for us to be interested. It’s like buying a property in a massive chain. Someone is going to not get what they want and pull out of the deal last minute and everything goes tits up. We may have a replacement lined up but is that clubs willing to let them go? Also, Kirk’s looked good so far. He should kick on this year. Kirk hasn’t looked good so far - he’s looked better than he did last season, which isn’t the same thing. At Wycombe he looked more one footed than Long John Silver. He’s been involved in a lot of our goals. Not necessarily the last pass but in the build up to create the opening etc. He’s also created the most chances. So I’ll stick to my comment that he has started well. |
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Post by kings hill addick on Aug 30, 2022 12:38:27 GMT
It’s still possible that the cavalry will appear on the horizon as the sun is beginning to set on September 1st, but it’s looking increasingly unlikely. If it does, it seems much more likely it will be of the Josh Parker or David Davis ilk than Josh Cullen or Krystian Bielik. Ben Garner has been telling us he needs to move players on before he can strengthen his squad and therein lies the problem. The most damning indictment of the Sandgaard era so far is that despite his stated intention to profit from player trading he’s not yet signed a single player who is in high demand elsewhere. Nobody wants us to sell our best players, but if doing so produces windfall gains it can help the funding position significantly. If anyone doubts the importance of this, it’s worth considering that since he bought the club just less than two years ago Sandgaard has received around £10m in transfer income. That’s £10m either received in cash or due. All of that money is in respect of players who were either already at the club when he arrived or who had already been sold. Where is £10m going to come from over the next two years? That’s a question Sandgaard will be asking Martin as nauseam. Our best hope is another Jesurun Rak-Sakyi. He’s going to be our best player this season. A clone could be transformative. To answer your rhetorical question Mundell , Miles Leaburn, Daniel Kanu & possibly George Dobson. That’s why it suits Sandgaard’s end games not to buy a striker this week - exposing Leaburn & Kanu prematurely to first team action fattens the piglets before they go to market. I''m sure you're right about those three players but interestingly, as per Mundell's post, only George Dobson was signed by Sandgaard. The other two were here when he arrived, all be it that they were not first team players at the time. I'm not sure that Dobson will command a very big transfer fee, either. I believe his contract expires next summer and even if we do have a one year extension option it means that his value next summer will be significantly reduced. Maybe we'll sell him in January but even then he only, technically, has six months left on his contract. I don't see a Premier League club signing him so his value will be limited, in my view. Having said that I was flabbergasted with the fee we managed to negoiate with Chelsea for Burstow. It does, however, make Mundell's point that Sandgaard doesn't seem to have signed anyone that is likely to be sold for a significant profit. I can't see the attendances rising much and I don't think there any more, realistic, cost cuting measures available. Apparently we lost £8m last year with £4.7m of transfer income. Sandgaard is going to find Charlton to be a very expensive hobby (realitive to his wealth) soon. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2022 12:39:09 GMT
Kirk hasn’t looked good so far - he’s looked better than he did last season, which isn’t the same thing. At Wycombe he looked more one footed than Long John Silver. He’s been involved in a lot of our goals. Not necessarily the last pass but in the build up to create the opening etc. He’s also created the most chances. So I’ll stick to my comment that he has started well. I don’t concur. I suspect you are laying the ground for “no striker signing” on Wednesday evening. #2 Inniss can play up front as well. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Aug 30, 2022 12:41:47 GMT
He’s been involved in a lot of our goals. Not necessarily the last pass but in the build up to create the opening etc. He’s also created the most chances. So I’ll stick to my comment that he has started well. I don’t concur. I suspect you are laying the ground for “no striker signing” on Wednesday evening. #2 Inniss can play up front as well. I’m certainly not, but feel free to make up a narrative for me. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2022 16:43:42 GMT
I don’t think we are gonna get anyone in.
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Post by bexleyboy on Aug 30, 2022 16:57:00 GMT
Kirk hasn’t looked good so far - he’s looked better than he did last season, which isn’t the same thing. At Wycombe he looked more one footed than Long John Silver. He’s been involved in a lot of our goals. Not necessarily the last pass but in the build up to create the opening etc. He’s also created the most chances. So I’ll stick to my comment that he has started well. Agreed he a class act at this level creates chances |
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Post by bexleyboy on Aug 30, 2022 16:57:28 GMT
He’s been involved in a lot of our goals. Not necessarily the last pass but in the build up to create the opening etc. He’s also created the most chances. So I’ll stick to my comment that he has started well. I don’t concur. I suspect you are laying the ground for “no striker signing” on Wednesday evening. #2 Inniss can play up front as well. But the deadline on Thursday …… |
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Post by cafcfan32 on Aug 30, 2022 17:06:44 GMT
I don’t think we are gonna get anyone in. Then you are mistaken |
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Post by 1978sussex on Aug 30, 2022 17:08:31 GMT
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Post by revilo on Aug 30, 2022 17:14:36 GMT
Thomas Sandgaard is looking to add to Charlton’s squad ahead of Thursday’s transfer deadline.
The Charlton Owner and CEO has been pleased with the recruitment done so far this summer and met with Director of Recruiting Steve Gallen, Director of Analytics Martin Sandgaard and Manager Ben Garner this morning as the group work on final plans before the window slams shut.
When asked about the possibility of adding a striker ahead of Thursday’s deadline, Sandgaard told CharltonTV: "Of course we are looking at it to see if we can create a little more, where we can stretch the opposition defence a little more. If we can have someone that's able to run in behind and create confusion and the stretching of the other defence, that will be helpful.
"We've seen that already here this season and that is something where it's been a little too easy for the opposition defences to cut us off there, so if we can strengthen on that then that is something we're looking at. And if we can get a little more depth in the central defence then that will be helpful, too. Those are the main areas we're looking at."
Sandgaard was also asked if he was expecting player departures. He said: “Expecting is a hard prediction. There are obviously a few players that may not fit our playing style so well anymore. There is some interest from other clubs so we will see how that goes."
Charlton have made seven signings already, with Jesurun Rak-Sakyi the most recent addition. Sandgaard explained the approach to this year’s recruitment. He said: “It's nice to see that when you have done that much business early on and steady, there's not a whole lot of panic and there's not too many moving parts which there can be on deadline day. It's very pleasing to see.
“We have just slowly and methodically been adding to the squad. We have also been recruiting as part of the overall strategy for the club. We will have a period of probably two seasons where we are getting to the point of being financially break-even, or cash flow neutral. Half of that will take place this season and the other half next season. We're slowly increasing revenues so it's nice to see that part of it coming together and we're slowly reducing costs elsewhere.
“This summer we've been able to rely on free agents so far and that has been very helpful, with relatively few loan players so we're still building a squad for the future which is important. We will continue to do that here over the next several transfer windows.
“The new signings have fitted in really well personality-wise and in terms of their technical abilities, their eagerness to learn even more, to fit into the squad and being adaptable with Ben Garner's style of coaching."
Sandgaard has also been impressed with the work of Garner, who he appointed just under three months ago. He added: “[It has been] everything we expected, everything that we saw when we interviewed him. It's been brilliant. It's nice to see not only on the training ground but to see the team, for the most, being consistent in how they are playing no matter what the opposing team is doing to us. There are ways you can adapt to how a game goes but also sometimes it's important that you stick to what works for you. When it clicks, it works really well and the game against Plymouth was a good example of that."
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Post by revilo on Aug 30, 2022 17:18:50 GMT
The word 'can' appears to mean we may sign a striker and centre back but it's not a must.
It also sounds as if Sandgaard isn't bothered about promotion this season as he looks to break even this season and next.
Basically we're not going anywhere fast guys, so let's prepare for another season in this shit league.
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Post by AndyB on Aug 30, 2022 17:42:15 GMT
The word 'can' appears to mean we may sign a striker and centre back but it's not a must. It also sounds as if Sandgaard isn't bothered about promotion this season as he looks to break even this season and next. Basically we're not going anywhere fast guys, so let's prepare for another season in this shit league. Never dreamt there would be a quick fix to get out of league 1 - hold on tight and enjoy the ride ….. if you can |
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Post by cafc4life on Aug 30, 2022 17:42:42 GMT
Macauley Bonne Back to us on loan another cheap move for us and he hasn’t hardly played this season for QPR
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Post by Mundell on Aug 30, 2022 17:44:40 GMT
I’m going to be really provocative here. I don’t see how we can break even at League One level, but let’s take Sandgaard at his word and assume, for sake of argument, that we can. What then? Why isn’t that a good outcome?
Let’s suppose, hypothetically for now, that breaking even in League One means being competitive but staying on the fringes of the race for promotion. That we might make the playoffs every now and again, perhaps winning promotion if we get lucky one year, but that we’re not going to ‘storm’ the League. Further, that promotion to the Championship is likely to be short lived because breaking even at that level means a bottom six wage budget, or worse.
In other words, breaking even means spending most seasons in Division One with occasional, short-lived forays into the Championship. How does that work for fans? We’d no longer be dependent on a benefactor and the club might even become fan owned. It would be truly sustainable.
Having begun by saying we’d be in Europe within five seasons, Sandgaard now appears to be talking in these terms. Arguably, if makes sense, if it’s deliverable. Is it deliverable though and, if it was, would we want it?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2022 17:57:41 GMT
Macauley Bonne Back to us on loan another cheap move for us and he hasn’t hardly played this season for QPR I saw him at the Valley for QPR and he was truly awful. It’s a no from me. |
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Post by kings hill addick on Aug 30, 2022 18:00:37 GMT
I’m going to be really provocative here. I don’t see how we can break even at League One level, but let’s take Sandgaard at his word and assume, for sake of argument, that we can. What then? Why isn’t that a good outcome? Let’s suppose, hypothetically for now, that breaking even in League One means being competitive but staying on the fringes of the race for promotion. That we might make the playoffs every now and again, perhaps winning promotion if we get lucky one year, but that we’re not going to ‘storm’ the League. Further, that promotion to the Championship is likely to be short lived because breaking even at that level means a bottom six wage budget, or worse. In other words, breaking even means spending most seasons in Division One with occasional, short-lived forays into the Championship. How does that work for fans? We’d no longer be dependent on a benefactor and the club might even become fan owned. It would be truly sustainable. Having begun by saying we’d be in Europe within five seasons, Sandgaard now appears to be talking in these terms. Arguably, if makes sense, if it’s deliverable. Is it deliverable though and, if it was, would we want it? No! |
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Post by kings hill addick on Aug 30, 2022 18:02:24 GMT
I don't like the way he talks about how the team plays with comments like 'getting someone in behind to stretch the opposition's defence.'
It's not his job to discuss the formations or the tactics.
He just winds me up so much!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2022 18:04:28 GMT
I’ve just read Sandgaard’s latest pile of bullshit tonight in the SLP regarding last minute transfers.
Once again, his mouth gets carried away and he strays well into the manager’s territory with his commentary about tactics, and player’s attributes (which he knows sweet FA about).
Sandgaard is sucking the enjoyment of supporting CAFC out for so many fans. The guy is a major league irritant.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2022 18:07:08 GMT
I’ve just read Sandgaard’s latest pile of bullshit tonight in the SLP regarding last minute transfers. Once again, his mouth gets carried away and he strays well into the manager’s territory with his commentary about tactics, and player’s attributes (which he knows sweet FA about). Sandgaard is sucking the enjoyment of supporting CAFC out for so many fans. The guy is a major league irritant. I must admit he is irritating me as well. At least he doesn’t call it Soccer. |
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Post by jonkool on Aug 30, 2022 18:25:26 GMT
I’ve just read Sandgaard’s latest pile of bullshit tonight in the SLP regarding last minute transfers. Once again, his mouth gets carried away and he strays well into the manager’s territory with his commentary about tactics, and player’s attributes (which he knows sweet FA about). Sandgaard is sucking the enjoyment of supporting CAFC out for so many fans. The guy is a major league irritant. I must admit he is irritating me as well. At least he doesn’t call it Soccer. I avoid seeing, hearing or reading what he says … I just feel he winds me up with his buzzwords and total inconsistency Prem in 5 now switching to sustainability via break even. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2022 18:37:18 GMT
jonkoolJust for you, here’s the latest tactical insight from Sven Goran Brent - “We are looking to see if we can create a little more, to stretch the other team’s defence. If we can have someone who can run behind and create confusion and stretch that defence”.
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 30, 2022 18:43:50 GMT
Director of Analytics Martin Sandgaard!!!
Talk about giving your son a title that he is not fit for!!
What analytics were used to bring Aneke back from Birmingham?
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Post by bexleyboy on Aug 30, 2022 18:47:09 GMT
Nottingham Forest are still trying to sign Blackpool winger Josh Bowler. They may use part of the fee to buy Kirk. Blackpool have signed a young winger from Celtic |
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 30, 2022 18:49:20 GMT
I’ve just read Sandgaard’s latest pile of bullshit tonight in the SLP regarding last minute transfers. Once again, his mouth gets carried away and he strays well into the manager’s territory with his commentary about tactics, and player’s attributes (which he knows sweet FA about). Sandgaard is sucking the enjoyment of supporting CAFC out for so many fans. The guy is a major league irritant. I must admit he is irritating me as well. At least he doesn’t call it Soccer. Not sure why he has to keep sticking his nose in at the training ground. He comes across to me as a f'king control freak, a bit like his bit of stuff! His son didn't earn that title , he was given it, a nice little job created for him by Daddy. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 30, 2022 19:03:20 GMT
Taylor and Bonne up front would be great if we sold Stockley.
I'm still convinced we'll sign McKirdy.
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Post by floydroadse7 on Aug 30, 2022 19:09:33 GMT
Taylor and Bonne up front would be great if we sold Stockley. I'm still convinced we'll sign McKirdy. Signing someone who can't play immediately? That's certainly the Charlton way! |
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