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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 20, 2021 12:45:00 GMT
Why would you buy The Valley off Roland the Grudge when you wait for him to die and pick it up for peanuts off his Executor? Roland sold us to ESI because he wanted his revenge. Personally, I'm up for a bit of Heavy Metal football. I think it would be sensational to have the Chairman leading a sing song on the Axe He would be well advised to start off with club anthems though (no not those kind Katrien!) 15 minutes to kick off and Rock on Tommy leading VFR? Man that would be awesome! He hasn't bought the Valley.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 13:44:42 GMT
Why would you buy The Valley off Roland the Grudge when you wait for him to die and pick it up for peanuts off his Executor? Roland sold us to ESI because he wanted his revenge. Personally, I'm up for a bit of Heavy Metal football. I think it would be sensational to have the Chairman leading a sing song on the Axe He would be well advised to start off with club anthems though (no not those kind Katrien!) 15 minutes to kick off and Rock on Tommy leading VFR? Man that would be awesome! He hasn't bought the Valley. Sure, that's what I said Why would you? Wait till RD pops his clogs.
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Post by kings hill addick on Jul 20, 2021 13:49:26 GMT
Why would you buy The Valley off Roland the Grudge when you wait for him to die and pick it up for peanuts off his Executor? Roland sold us to ESI because he wanted his revenge. Personally, I'm up for a bit of Heavy Metal football. I think it would be sensational to have the Chairman leading a sing song on the Axe He would be well advised to start off with club anthems though (no not those kind Katrien!) 15 minutes to kick off and Rock on Tommy leading VFR? Man that would be awesome! Don't you think that the beneficiaries of his estate will look to maximise the asset. It's not like they will be selling an old sofa in the house of a recently departed relative.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 13:53:16 GMT
Why would you buy The Valley off Roland the Grudge when you wait for him to die and pick it up for peanuts off his Executor? Roland sold us to ESI because he wanted his revenge. Personally, I'm up for a bit of Heavy Metal football. I think it would be sensational to have the Chairman leading a sing song on the Axe He would be well advised to start off with club anthems though (no not those kind Katrien!) 15 minutes to kick off and Rock on Tommy leading VFR? Man that would be awesome! Don't you think that the beneficiaries of his estate will look to maximise the asset. It's not like they will be selling an old sofa in the house of a recently departed relative. Yep. They will. So they will sell it for a reasonable price not some 50M bullshit Roly has a vandetta against Charlton. I doubt his children will give a shit and they will be out QuickTime.
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Post by Mundell on Jul 20, 2021 15:00:46 GMT
Don't you think that the beneficiaries of his estate will look to maximise the asset. It's not like they will be selling an old sofa in the house of a recently departed relative. Yep. They will. So they will sell it for a reasonable price not some 50M bullshit Roly has a vandetta against Charlton. I doubt his children will give a shit and they will be out QuickTime. I think you’ve got that the wrong way around. Duchatelet doesn’t have a vendetta. You’ve been listening to CARD’s head of propaganda. I’d be far more concerned about the future of the Valley if Duchatelet was no longer around in 15 years time. Duchatelet will do the ‘right’ thing, but there is no reason for his executors not to play hard ball. Thomas Sandgaard has no interest in buying the freeholds because he doesn’t need to. The issue will only become relevant when he decides to sell. Who knows when that might be? I doubt he’ll be here in even ten years though unless we’ve made it to the Premier League.
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Post by kings hill addick on Jul 20, 2021 15:03:04 GMT
Don't you think that the beneficiaries of his estate will look to maximise the asset. It's not like they will be selling an old sofa in the house of a recently departed relative. Yep. They will. So they will sell it for a reasonable price not some 50M bullshit Roly has a vandetta against Charlton. I doubt his children will give a shit and they will be out QuickTime. Fair enough. I don't, actually, think he has a vendetta, personally. The value of land is not my speciality, but £50m was the price of the club. I would have little respect for a chap that agreed to sell the club and held back the assets only to sell them on the cheap if the original buyer was a con man. As the family are wealthy enough to never need the money they can wait generations, if necessary, until Charlton get to the Premier League and/or the planning situation changes.
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Post by Mundell on Jul 20, 2021 15:22:03 GMT
Yep. They will. So they will sell it for a reasonable price not some 50M bullshit Roly has a vandetta against Charlton. I doubt his children will give a shit and they will be out QuickTime. Fair enough. I don't, actually, think he has a vendetta, personally. The value of land is not my speciality, but £50m was the price of the club. I would have little respect for a chap that agreed to sell the club and held back the assets only to sell them on the cheap if the original buyer was a con man. As the family are wealthy enough to never need the money they can wait generations, if necessary, until Charlton get to the Premier League and/or the planning situation changes. Just to add to this, ESI had what amounted to a legally binding obligation to pay circa £50m for the club - based on the accounts just released it looks as if the actual figure was £44m. Duchatelet had secured that purchase price on the assets. Sandgaard negotiated a deal that tore up that agreement and which wrote off all the debt in exchange for a 15-year lease at £0.5m p.a., plus an undisclosed sum payable to Duchatelet should the club be promoted to the Premier League by 2030. My take on this is that Sandgaard got the club for nothing (save anything he paid Nimer) while Duchatelet was happy to extricate himself from his deal with ESI and pass the club on to a decent owner while agreeing something with Sandgaard which enabled him to save face.
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Post by kings hill addick on Jul 20, 2021 15:36:35 GMT
Fair enough. I don't, actually, think he has a vendetta, personally. The value of land is not my speciality, but £50m was the price of the club. I would have little respect for a chap that agreed to sell the club and held back the assets only to sell them on the cheap if the original buyer was a con man. As the family are wealthy enough to never need the money they can wait generations, if necessary, until Charlton get to the Premier League and/or the planning situation changes. Just to add to this, ESI had what amounted to a legally binding obligation to pay circa £50m for the club - based on the accounts just released it looks as if the actual figure was £44m. Duchatelet had secured that purchase price on the assets. Sandgaard negotiated a deal that tore up that agreement and which wrote off all the debt in exchange for a 15-year lease at £0.5m p.a., plus an undisclosed sum payable to Duchatelet should the club be promoted to the Premier League by 2030. My take on this is that Sandgaard got the club for nothing (save anything he paid Nimer) while Duchatelet was happy to extricate himself from his deal with ESI and pass the club on to a decent owner while agreeing something with Sandgaard which enabled him to save face. That all seems very reasonable to me. Just confirms my view that Duchatelet is a decent business man that holds no animosity against the club or the vast majority of its fans.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 17:30:46 GMT
Yep. They will. So they will sell it for a reasonable price not some 50M bullshit Roly has a vandetta against Charlton. I doubt his children will give a shit and they will be out QuickTime. I think you’ve got that the wrong way around. Duchatelet doesn’t have a vendetta. You’ve been listening to CARD’s head of propaganda. I’d be far more concerned about the future of the Valley if Duchatelet was no longer around in 15 years time. Duchatelet will do the ‘right’ thing, but there is no reason for his executors not to play hard ball. Thomas Sandgaard has no interest in buying the freeholds because he doesn’t need to. The issue will only become relevant when he decides to sell. Who knows when that might be? I doubt he’ll be here in even ten years though unless we’ve made it to the Premier League. Ha! As you seem to know the inside of my head! Nothing to do with CARD Everything to do with selling to Matt Southall and the Fake Shiekh Also your statement that TS has no interest in buying the freehold is not correct. Way wide of the mark in fact
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 17:40:01 GMT
Fair enough. I don't, actually, think he has a vendetta, personally. The value of land is not my speciality, but £50m was the price of the club. I would have little respect for a chap that agreed to sell the club and held back the assets only to sell them on the cheap if the original buyer was a con man. As the family are wealthy enough to never need the money they can wait generations, if necessary, until Charlton get to the Premier League and/or the planning situation changes. Just to add to this, ESI had what amounted to a legally binding obligation to pay circa £50m for the club - based on the accounts just released it looks as if the actual figure was £44m. Duchatelet had secured that purchase price on the assets. Sandgaard negotiated a deal that tore up that agreement and which wrote off all the debt in exchange for a 15-year lease at £0.5m p.a., plus an undisclosed sum payable to Duchatelet should the club be promoted to the Premier League by 2030. My take on this is that Sandgaard got the club for nothing (save anything he paid Nimer) while Duchatelet was happy to extricate himself from his deal with ESI and pass the club on to a decent owner while agreeing something with Sandgaard which enabled him to save face. And that's a reasonable take but that's all it is. Same for mine, an opinion, which is that RD knew he was selling us up the river but did not know just how grimey the characters he got involved with were. TS had to run hard to even get him to the table. RD might not have any animosity towards the vast majority of Charlton fans but he also holds the vast majority of football fans in contempt. Fuk this RD love. The man's a cnut. Played around with a club like a toy to indulge his visionary views on football. Immediately tried to expunge the history and the special link with the supporters. Sold us to a kettle of vultures
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Post by clarky on Jul 20, 2021 19:11:29 GMT
My take is RD knew exactly what he was doing. All he was concerned about was shifting what was costing him money and it didn't matter to whom as he still retained the assets. Sure I can remember him saying something like "enjoy the moment while you can" as we were celebrating the arrival of Southall and Nimer.
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Post by supersonic on Jul 21, 2021 11:38:10 GMT
I presume that someone has told Thomas that the average age of Charlton fans will ensure that most of them will consider The Beatles to be a bit too loud. The likes of Metallica would make them glad that their hearing is going. I think you are doing a bit of a disservice to metallica. I mean, their most successful album is also one of the best selling of all time,they aren't some obscure band no one has heard of. Metallica(album name) is one of the best-selling albums worldwide United Kingdom (BPI)[180] 2× Platinum 600,000^ United States (RIAA)[182] 16× Platinum 16,830,000[181]
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Post by kings hill addick on Jul 21, 2021 12:07:34 GMT
I presume that someone has told Thomas that the average age of Charlton fans will ensure that most of them will consider The Beatles to be a bit too loud. The likes of Metallica would make them glad that their hearing is going. I think you are doing a bit of a disservice to metallica. I mean, their most successful album is also one of the best selling of all time,they aren't some obscure band no one has heard of. Metallica(album name) is one of the best-selling albums worldwide United Kingdom (BPI)[180] 2× Platinum 600,000^ United States (RIAA)[182] 16× Platinum 16,830,000[181] I'm not saying that no one has heard of them, just that they are very loud. On the number of sales the band has, in relation to how popular they would be with the typical Charlton fan, in the US it is estimated that $150billion is spent on Cocaine every year. That is a huge number, but I'd guess that very few of the senior Charlton fans are tempted to snort a line on a Saturday night - just like they, probably, don't like Metallica's style of music. However, I confess that this is just an educated guess on my part. Maybe they will love the ear bleeding sound, before they go home and get Coked-up.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2021 12:54:51 GMT
I presume that someone has told Thomas that the average age of Charlton fans will ensure that most of them will consider The Beatles to be a bit too loud. The likes of Metallica would make them glad that their hearing is going. I think you are doing a bit of a disservice to metallica. I mean, their most successful album is also one of the best selling of all time,they aren't some obscure band no one has heard of. Metallica(album name) is one of the best-selling albums worldwide United Kingdom (BPI)[180] 2× Platinum 600,000^ United States (RIAA)[182] 16× Platinum 16,830,000[181] Enter Sandgaard would be a hit. No doubt about it. The chrous is perfect for a football chant, easy to sing without any pitch or range. Klopp will soon realise he can't compete with real heavy metal football.
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Post by revilo on Jul 21, 2021 21:54:41 GMT
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Post by thevalleybest on Jul 24, 2021 8:00:52 GMT
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Post by Don't Knowitall on Jul 24, 2021 8:40:14 GMT
Oh goody! A poster for the song!!! "We are going up, say we are going up" Fucking circus!
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 24, 2021 11:21:39 GMT
Oh goody! A poster for the song!!! "We are going up, say we are going up" Fucking circus! The fella is a delusional showman.
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Post by redrobin on Jul 24, 2021 11:35:59 GMT
Oh goody! A poster for the song!!! "We are going up, say we are going up" Fucking circus! The fella is a delusional showman. Ffs leave the man alone. Yes, he has to be crazy and delusional to Put millions of hard earned personal money into CAFC. I personally like the fact he is not a faceless character and enjoy his eccentricity . I hope he can pull it off and put us back on the map. Fully appreciate everything he has done so far . Showman ? Maybe. CAFC has for too long been a circus, A little longer won't hurt.
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Post by bexleyboy on Jul 24, 2021 11:41:53 GMT
Oh goody! A poster for the song!!! "We are going up, say we are going up" Fucking circus! The fella is a delusional showman. It’s fantastic … for the club and the fans it’s been a long time coming .. Charlton fans have been through to much crap over the past few years so this is fantastic and something for everyone to get behind .. and enjoy for what it is a bit of fun …
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2021 15:39:20 GMT
I cannot wait to see/hear the Sandman at the Valley. For the first time in my memory we have a personality running the club. If we can tell him how to spend his money. We can at least show him the courtesy of listening to him sing although I suspect it will be awful.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2021 16:06:19 GMT
I cannot wait to see/hear the Sandman at the Valley. For the first time in my memory we have a personality running the club. If we can tell him how to spend his money. We can at least show him the courtesy of listening to him sing although I suspect it will be awful. Unpopular opinion but I actually like that opening riff. I’m sure we’ll be met with ‘What the fucking hell is that’ - but at the same time I couldn’t really give a toss what a bunch of Wednesdays think of us.
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Post by canterburyaddick on Jul 25, 2021 16:08:38 GMT
I cannot wait to see/hear the Sandman at the Valley. For the first time in my memory we have a personality running the club. If we can tell him how to spend his money. We can at least show him the courtesy of listening to him sing although I suspect it will be awful. Unpopular opinion but I actually like that opening riff. I’m sure we’ll be met with ‘What the fucking hell is that’ - but at the same time I couldn’t really give a toss what a bunch of Wednesdays think of us. If it brings a bit of fun back to the Valley, I'm all for it.
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Post by canterburyaddick on Jul 25, 2021 16:11:48 GMT
Oh goody! A poster for the song!!! "We are going up, say we are going up" Fucking circus! The fella is a delusional showman. Cheer up Reams, we have missed a whole season of live football and I'm all for TS trying to liven things up from the start. I can't believe you brought back the "apologist" word the other day, when we need to be pulling together as fans. Totally out of order.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2021 19:07:51 GMT
As far as I can see all Sandgaard business projects are promoted with a rock background, even his charitable foundation has a plectrum for a logo. Far from being a ‘delusional showman’ I think he recognises music has an universal language, no colour or prejudice which is clever advertising and corperate promotion. I personally hate heavy rock, but come on, who on here wouldn’t do the same and jam before 11000 people given the chance?
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Post by tonbridgeaddick on Jul 25, 2021 19:30:34 GMT
I'm trying to grow my hair so I can head bang to his song !!!. ( I've been bald 10 years now )
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Post by lukepiestalker on Jul 25, 2021 19:52:52 GMT
If it replaces Themes from Great Cities I'll not be happy at all...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2021 6:11:38 GMT
Interesting poll on Twitter yesterday from Dodger.
Asking CAFC fans what they thought of the summer transfer window so far, over 400 voted, and 45% said that they were “disappointed”.
Only 21% said that they were not disappointed.
I thought it was important to flag this up, as, with one or two exceptions, that viewpoint doesn’t get an airing on this forum.
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Post by bexleyboy on Jul 26, 2021 8:39:54 GMT
Our great leader "The Heart and Soul of a Great Dane" Article (Pg. 60) - lnkd.in/g2cPrzT
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Post by bexleyboy on Jul 26, 2021 8:41:40 GMT
Interesting poll on Twitter yesterday from Dodger. Asking CAFC fans what they thought of the summer transfer window so far, over 400 voted, and 45% said that they were “disappointed”. Only 21% said that they were not disappointed. I thought it was important to flag this up, as, with one or two exceptions, that viewpoint doesn’t get an airing on this forum. Says more about our fans then the club i am afraid …
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