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Post by reamsofverse on Nov 29, 2019 20:50:25 GMT
Great news....that will shut up some of the gobshites.
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Post by 1978sussex on Nov 29, 2019 20:57:24 GMT
Richard cawley has said murray wont be on new board and Gallen is going back to hes old job head off recruitment
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Post by jonkool on Nov 29, 2019 21:12:13 GMT
Yes I’m not sure what role RM will have if any. However, he always does bounce back.
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Post by reamsofverse on Nov 29, 2019 21:38:31 GMT
Richard cawley has said murray wont be on new board and Gallen is going back to hes old job head off recruitment Where did I say he'll be part of the new board? |
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Post by MurciaAl on Nov 29, 2019 21:43:14 GMT
Will he still have a role within the club then Paul?
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Post by reamsofverse on Nov 29, 2019 21:46:37 GMT
I believe he will be given a title but not officially part of the new board.
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Post by rd on Dec 1, 2019 22:29:43 GMT
Great news....that will shut up some of the gobshites. I don't see that as good news, what has he actually contributed in the last few years apart from banging on about his role being as a conduit with the fanbase and then not appearing to represent us at all. Would rather he was gone, never liked him after he mocked Simon Jordan which showed no class at all. |
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Post by 19addickted96 on Dec 1, 2019 23:08:43 GMT
Would imagine he’ll have similar title/role as Maurice hatter...
Life president AKA just a fan who has a fancy name to ‘thank them’ for what they have done in the past
Wouldn’t necessarily say it’s staying on, but more like shelled out for fancy dinners etc
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 4:49:03 GMT
Opinions among supporters seem deeply divided on Richard Murray's influence at CAFC since relegation from the Premiership in 2007, and of course the Duchatelet era. But prior to those times, I believe almost everyone would agree he did a lot of good work for the Club.
If 'staying on' means a position such as Club Ambassador, which will come with occasional responsibilities mostly of a diplomatic and hospitality nature but is in reality not much more than an honourary title, I guess the majority of supporters would approve - or at least not feel the need to object.
Personally I think it would be the best thing for RM to retire now or soon, but if he feels capable of contributing more as an ambassador or in some similar role, then good luck to him.
I don't think it really necessary that he stays on as a symbol of continuity, since continuity with the previous owner at senior executive or board level is not something anybody will value.
The retention of Lee Bowyer and his management team, and backing them with proper contracts and a competitive budget, is all we require when it comes to continuity.
But personally I see no reason for any animosity towards Richard Murray now, or any point in continued bad feeling towards him because of his part in the outgoing regime. I think he should always be welcome at the Valley in future, and I hope the new owners extend him the courtesy of that welcome in light of his many years of good service to the Club.
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Post by kings hill addick on Dec 2, 2019 19:51:48 GMT
I can see why the new board would want someone around that has been involved with running the club, or any club, as they are all new to it.
I'm not sure that Richard is ideally positioned, now, to be a link with the fans as so many of them resent him. I also think that Richard's tendancy to share a little too much with fans could be a problem. When you, as good as, own the club you can get away with sharing confidential information, I'm not sure that the new ownership would want that, and I'm not sure that Richard can help himself.
I'm in the camp that he doesn't deserve any abuse from fans, but I'm not sure that he needs to be at the club, in an officialy capacity, either.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 8:09:46 GMT
I can see why the new board would want someone around that has been involved with running the club, or any club, as they are all new to it. I'm not sure that Richard is ideally positioned, now, to be a link with the fans as so many of them resent him. I also think that Richard's tendancy to share a little too much with fans could be a problem. When you, as good as, own the club you can get away with sharing confidential information, I'm not sure that the new ownership would want that, and I'm not sure that Richard can help himself. I'm in the camp that he doesn't deserve any abuse from fans, but I'm not sure that he needs to be at the club, in an officialy capacity, either. Keith Peacock, could fill that role.. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 9:14:33 GMT
From today's London News. Richard Murray will not be on the Board Of Directors but is welcome to sit in the Directors Box. It doesn't look like he will be getting a title.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 9:28:46 GMT
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Post by reamsofverse on Dec 3, 2019 9:40:28 GMT
From today's London News. Richard Murray will not be on the Board Of Directors but is welcome to sit in the Directors Box. It doesn't look like he will be getting a title. He doesn't need a title Dick, he will always be Mr Charlton for me for giving us the Premier years. He doesn't need the grief anymore and has more than earned his life time seat in the Director's box. |
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Post by leedsaddick on Dec 3, 2019 14:18:10 GMT
According to the SLP, he played a fundamental role in getting the takeover completed...Perhaps its a parting gift.... I'd still like him to be around the place
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Post by cafc2002 on Dec 3, 2019 15:16:38 GMT
Glad he's still with us, Charlton through and through and hes never hidden away from some of the shit he's had to take from certain individuals.
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Post by reamsofverse on Dec 3, 2019 15:53:54 GMT
Glad he's still with us, Charlton through and through and hes never hidden away from some of the shit he's had to take from certain individuals. Indeed, individuals who are half the man Richard Murray is. |
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Post by cafcfanstevo on Dec 3, 2019 16:12:42 GMT
Great news....that will shut up some of the gobshites. So you are happy for Murray to stay on just to piss off fellow Charlton fans? Weird... I can't stand the fella, has stuck with Roland and not supported the fans at all. If we are on to bigger and better things I sincerely hope he is nowhere near it. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 16:41:12 GMT
I don't see any cause for happiness with this. He did good stuff but recent years have seen him back RD in whatever crackpot idea the guy came up with. If he wants to watch games at the Valley, he has every right to buy a season ticket and go. But if this is another sad attempt to be a director, his time has long gone in my opinion. And welcoming him as a director in order to piss off the fans is ludicrous. Time we all moved on.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 17:52:13 GMT
He made some silly statements when Douchatelet took over, but seems to have taken a vow of silence since then. He must have known how much the fans detested Roland, and if he'd resigned from the board he would have recovered a lot of goodwill. I wanted him to, but it was not to be.
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Post by jonkool on Dec 3, 2019 22:11:30 GMT
I don't see any cause for happiness with this. He did good stuff but recent years have seen him back RD in whatever crackpot idea the guy came up with. If he wants to watch games at the Valley, he has every right to buy a season ticket and go. But if this is another sad attempt to be a director, his time has long gone in my opinion. And welcoming him as a director in order to piss off the fans is ludicrous. Time we all moved on. I think we can all agree that he is the proverbial CAFC marmite - he helped mastermind the fabulous Prem years, he ripped up our fans shares and he appeared supportive of RD. Maybe we can all agree that he does have CAFC close to his heart and was the enabler of the Curbs years. Surely no one should deny him lifetime access to a seat in the Directors Box? |
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Post by seriouslyred on Dec 3, 2019 22:32:50 GMT
I don't see any cause for happiness with this. He did good stuff but recent years have seen him back RD in whatever crackpot idea the guy came up with. If he wants to watch games at the Valley, he has every right to buy a season ticket and go. But if this is another sad attempt to be a director, his time has long gone in my opinion. And welcoming him as a director in order to piss off the fans is ludicrous. Time we all moved on. I think we can all agree that he is the proverbial CAFC marmite - he helped mastermind the fabulous Prem years, he ripped up our fans shares and he appeared supportive of RD. Maybe we can all agree that he does have CAFC close to his heart and was the enabler of the Curbs years. Surely no one should deny him lifetime access to a seat in the Directors Box? Not only do we have the Premier League memories, but also the best stadium in South London mostly paid for at that time. And it's starting to fill up again! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 23:44:10 GMT
I think we can all agree that he is the proverbial CAFC marmite - he helped mastermind the fabulous Prem years, he ripped up our fans shares and he appeared supportive of RD. Maybe we can all agree that he does have CAFC close to his heart and was the enabler of the Curbs years. Surely no one should deny him lifetime access to a seat in the Directors Box? Not only do we have the Premier League memories, but also the best stadium in South London mostly paid for at that time. And it's starting to fill up again! All fair points I think. I fully accept some other fans may disagree, but I can't believe that any of the mistakes or poor decisions RM may have made since 2007 and then 2014 were due to him not caring about CAFC or not wanting the best for it. For better or worse, I think he has always acted in what he believed to be the best interests of the Club at the time. That cannot be said for Duchatelet or Meire or Driesen. None of them will be missed. But unlike them, Richard Murray did do great things for our Club in the past, and I don't think it is fair that his later mistakes, or his association with the 2014-19 regime, should outweigh all the good he has done in the eyes of some Charlton supporters. I hope he can continue to enjoy many more match days at the Valley as our new future unfolds, as a welcome guest in the directors' enclosure. Surely this is the very least we can do to thank him for those many past years of work and service. |
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Post by rd on Dec 5, 2019 13:50:02 GMT
It's hard to argue too much with this post above to be honest. I find the attitude of the original poster quite baffling, we need to unite the fanbase now, not continue to pick petty squabbles with each other. Opinion will be divided on RM, he did - with Curbs - oversee the most successful period in the club's recent history, but his apparent collusion with the Belgian scum will understandably tarnish that and for some, ruin it. Let's all now move forward, with or without slaphead Murray!
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Post by reamsofverse on Dec 5, 2019 14:33:24 GMT
It's hard to argue too much with this post above to be honest. I find the attitude of the original poster quite baffling, we need to unite the fanbase now, not continue to pick petty squabbles with each other. Opinion will be divided on RM, he did - with Curbs - oversee the most successful period in the club's recent history, but his apparent collusion with the Belgian scum will understandably tarnish that and for some, ruin it. Let's all now move forward, with or without slaphead Murray! You really are a bit of a wind bag aren't you? Slaphead Murray? Is there really any need? That's what you are about isn't abusing a man in his 70's? So just for clarity, in your own words you say that you find the attitude of the original poster quite baffling, we need to unite the fanbase now, not continue to pick petty squabbles with each other then go on to insult Richard Murray? Richard is a bigger fan of the club than you'll ever be so what point are you trying to make? Stay baffled fella because I stand behind what I said in the opening thread. |
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Post by oldred on Dec 5, 2019 14:40:08 GMT
Not only do we have the Premier League memories, but also the best stadium in South London mostly paid for at that time. And it's starting to fill up again! All fair points I think. I fully accept some other fans may disagree, but I can't believe that any of the mistakes or poor decisions RM may have made since 2007 and then 2014 were due to him not caring about CAFC or not wanting the best for it. For better or worse, I think he has always acted in what he believed to be the best interests of the Club at the time. That cannot be said for Duchatelet or Meire or Driesen. None of them will be missed. But unlike them, Richard Murray did do great things for our Club in the past, and I don't think it is fair that his later mistakes, or his association with the 2014-19 regime, should outweigh all the good he has done in the eyes of some Charlton supporters. I hope he can continue to enjoy many more match days at the Valley as our new future unfolds, as a welcome guest in the directors' enclosure. Surely this is the very least we can do to thank him for those many past years of work and service. Good post lardi, and very fair minded in my opinion. |
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Post by cafcfanstevo on Dec 5, 2019 16:07:16 GMT
It's hard to argue too much with this post above to be honest. I find the attitude of the original poster quite baffling, we need to unite the fanbase now, not continue to pick petty squabbles with each other. Opinion will be divided on RM, he did - with Curbs - oversee the most successful period in the club's recent history, but his apparent collusion with the Belgian scum will understandably tarnish that and for some, ruin it. Let's all now move forward, with or without slaphead Murray! You really are a bit of a wind bag aren't you? Slaphead Murray? Is there really any need? That's what you are about isn't abusing a man in his 70's? So just for clarity, in your own words you say that you find the attitude of the original poster quite baffling, we need to unite the fanbase now, not continue to pick petty squabbles with each other then go on to insult Richard Murray? Richard is a bigger fan of the club than you'll ever be so what point are you trying to make? Stay baffled fella because I stand behind what I said in the opening thread. But the opening thread said you are happy Murray is staying just to piss off other fans? Despite disagreeing somewhat I accept your respect for him due to the Premier League success etc, but your original post was happy to piss off others which I agree is somewhat bizarre. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Dec 5, 2019 17:59:56 GMT
You really are a bit of a wind bag aren't you? Slaphead Murray? Is there really any need? That's what you are about isn't abusing a man in his 70's? So just for clarity, in your own words you say that you find the attitude of the original poster quite baffling, we need to unite the fanbase now, not continue to pick petty squabbles with each other then go on to insult Richard Murray? Richard is a bigger fan of the club than you'll ever be so what point are you trying to make? Stay baffled fella because I stand behind what I said in the opening thread. But the opening thread said you are happy Murray is staying just to piss off other fans? Despite disagreeing somewhat I accept your respect for him due to the Premier League success etc, but your original post was happy to piss off others which I agree is somewhat bizarre. I actually said, shut up some of the gobshites. If only they knew a bit more about who helped pull the deal off and just what their involvement was all along and why. Not just Richard either. Can't wait until that comes out. By the way my respect for him runs far deeper than what he did for us in the Premier years. I regard him as a personal friend and more of a man than many that spout their mouths off on forums. |
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Post by seriouslyred on Dec 5, 2019 21:44:35 GMT
Murray only gets to resign once. Other directors have resigned at various times when the going got tough but nobody hounds them for their choice to walk away. Instead, a certain group who are clearly linked to some ex-directors choose to slate Murray for staying on the board. And the irony is that the CAFC board changed strategy after relegation in 2015/16 - English manager, British / Irish signings and gently release the foreign contingent. In short, once Slade was replaced by KR the bleeding stopped with our club an also ran, mid table in the third tier. Some wanted Murray to go and watch the club crash into League 2... another tactic was to start a row with Chris Parkes and his wife... target anybody at the club and take it apart brick by brick! This approach failed, not least because of the chance discovery that Bows was more than a part time coach! We have climbed the leagues again and are now at the best crossroads in a long while. And a collection of people such as Murray, Parkes, Peacock, Avory, Bows, Gallen and Jackson steered us on this journey. We cant know the detail, but nobody can deny that with Meire and KR leaving we haven't looked back... and some choose to blame a CAFC board director?! We are back where we were when RD pitched and when Murray first came on board... except we have a fully paid up 27,000 capacity stadium, 18,000 crowds and an Abu Dhabi takeover lined up. And that's all Murray's fault! FFS can somebody post a different perspective? Anybody...? zenga Mundell ?! |
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Post by Mundell on Dec 5, 2019 22:12:48 GMT
Nothing to add seriouslyred Richard Murray seems like a decent bloke who has had the club’s interests at heart. I’ve little doubt he’s done his best. I’m sure he’s made mistakes, but then we all do. It’s scapegoat syndrome and as old as the hills. People feel something’s not right or something ‘bad’ happens and they want someone to blame. It has to be somebody’s fault. That somebody needs to pay. Unfortunately for Murray he found himself caught in the crossfire. It always seems odd to me that the very people who talk about being treated properly and with respect etc., seem willing to vilify others with equanimity. The vindictive nature of some of the criticism Murray has received must have been very difficult and stressful for him. Nobody seems to care about that though. A lesser man would have simply walked away. That’s just my perspective. To an extent the differences between fans reflect differences in beliefs, values and attitudes. That’s fair enough. Each to his or her own. However, those differences, once revealed, don’t go away just because the club has a new owner. |
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