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Post by reamsofverse on Jun 1, 2019 0:07:44 GMT
I think Joe is a smashing player , unplayable at Doncaster and against other teams this season, HOWEVER....I also think that at Wembley Cullen and Bielik were head and shoulders above him on the day so if it means getting those two back later on in the summer to offset the loss of Joe I would settle for that.
Of course I would rather Aribo stayed with us, he is a pivotal player with a key role in the side if we are going to continue our journey but what I don't want is players holding the club to ransom.
We made Aribo what he is and I find it troubling that there appears to be no loyalty in the game anymore. Yes it's a short career and players want to be financially secure for the rest of their lives and many are happy to get to that point by being satisfied at sitting on the bench unable to break into the side they have signed for. They are a waste of a talent and I hope that Joe realises that and signs a new contract.
If you are good enough the financial rewards will always be there but be the best you can be and want to win things first with the club who gave you your big chance in the game.
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Post by seriouslyred on Jun 1, 2019 1:53:03 GMT
Well said! RD, RM, SG and LB need to be 100% aligned on what they offer to Bauer and the midfield that won promotion.
And if players, agents and parent clubs prefer elsewhere then that's up to them.
We have just released several players who simply did not deliver. As a club we need to maintain standards... and that in turn will yield better performances and results.
Absolutely no disrespect to those who leave...
But we need as a club to keep climbing... for that attracts both fans and investment.
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Post by massivebeak on Jun 1, 2019 6:25:50 GMT
Great point Reams and a good post. Playing devils advocate though- how long should a player be loyal to a club that has given them their break? He was pivotal in getting us promoted back to the Championship - maybe he, and the club, see that as a decent return of investment.
It is a short career and I do understand players doing what they do; providing they chip in and add something to the club before they go.
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Post by 1978sussex on Jun 1, 2019 7:14:50 GMT
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Post by hairyhotdog on Jun 1, 2019 7:18:24 GMT
It’s hard to judge the monetary side as to wether the difference between 10k a week and 20k a week earnings is so huge that it counteracts playing the game you love... I think most on this website would love to have been a professional footballer , so our love of playing would probably counteract the difference in playing , but for some players , I suppose like in real life , there are lazy ones who for them it’s just a job and the less they do the better....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2019 7:30:07 GMT
To Joe Aribo's credit, if he had been offered a contract a while back, only to have it withdrawn and replaced with s lesser one, then I think he has behaved admirably. I think I'm in the minority in thinking a certain other player, could have displayed a couple of months more loyalty to the club, fans and teammates. Lee Bowyer has now repaid handsomely the loyalty shown to him in his younger days. Should Joe go, then I wish him nothing but the best, and thank him for a wonderful season, but I'm hoping and praying he stays..
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Post by garrynelson on Jun 1, 2019 9:19:22 GMT
It’s hard to judge the monetary side as to wether the difference between 10k a week and 20k a week earnings is so huge that it counteracts playing the game you love... I think most on this website would love to have been a professional footballer , so our love of playing would probably counteract the difference in playing , but for some players , I suppose like in real life , there are lazy ones who for them it’s just a job and the less they do the better.... I’d happily get paid double my salary to do less work - I think people who don’t are kidding themselves. For a lot of professional footballers, it’s simply that - a job
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Post by divot on Jun 1, 2019 9:26:57 GMT
If Aribo stays and does well in The Championship, then Premier clubs will come for him with a view of putting him in their team. If he goes straight to a Premier club, he will probably play bollocky U23 football with zero physical contact or pressure and he'll risk losing his edge (like Diego Poyet). The lad is on an upwards curve and in my opinion, should stay and battle it out with Charlton.
PS: I wonder if any clubs will be slightly put off by Aribo's lacklustre performance in the final? He was definitely either affected by the occasion or by end of season fatigue and it might make some question his suitability at a higher level, at this point in time.
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Post by oldred on Jun 1, 2019 10:46:10 GMT
Joe is a fantastic talent , who will probably only get better . He’s not the finished article yet , and still needs to work on some areas of his game . In that respect , another season with us would help him step up another level to test himself .
Unfortunately because of his ridiculous contract situation , it’s a no brainier for many clubs to take a punt on him with his potential. They will either get a cheap player, or sell him and make some money.
I’ve always expected him to leave, and I don’t think it matters what we offer him , he will get better offers for sure, and with an agent who seems to be pushing it , it seems inevitable. How many players turn down the chance to earn more money without a very good reason . We were very very lucky with Lyle .
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 14:03:36 GMT
I watched the Old Firm game earlier. That’s one of the poorest games I have seen Joe Aribo have, and confirmed my view that he’s made a terrible career decision moving to Rangers. Players like MacGregor, Jones and Goldson wouldn’t get a game down here in the Championship, and the horrible kick and rush pub team football they play predictably passed Aribo by.
It’s also hard to see why Steven Gerrard is wasting his time up there...he’s achieving nothing...Rangers are shit, and I say that as an avowed disliker of Celtic..
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Post by cafc2002 on Sept 1, 2019 14:27:16 GMT
Played out of position today which I was quite happy about!
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Post by elfsborgfranboras on Sept 1, 2019 14:39:49 GMT
I watched the Old Firm game earlier. That’s one of the poorest games I have seen Joe Aribo have, and confirmed my view that he’s made a terrible career decision moving to Rangers. Players like MacGregor, Jones and Goldson wouldn’t get a game down here in the Championship, and the horrible kick and rush pub team football they play predictably passed Aribo by. It’s also hard to see why Steven Gerrard is wasting his time up there...he’s achieving nothing...Rangers are shit, and I say that as an avowed disliker of Celtic.. Disappointing post Boss. The bank balance overides the football. Hamer, Elliot and Poyet will back me up.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 15:06:39 GMT
I watched the Old Firm game earlier. That’s one of the poorest games I have seen Joe Aribo have, and confirmed my view that he’s made a terrible career decision moving to Rangers. Players like MacGregor, Jones and Goldson wouldn’t get a game down here in the Championship, and the horrible kick and rush pub team football they play predictably passed Aribo by. It’s also hard to see why Steven Gerrard is wasting his time up there...he’s achieving nothing...Rangers are shit, and I say that as an avowed disliker of Celtic.. Here's a tip @roystonreturns If you don't like Scottish football, don't watch it
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Post by bexleyboy on Sept 1, 2019 15:25:53 GMT
I watched the Old Firm game earlier. That’s one of the poorest games I have seen Joe Aribo have, and confirmed my view that he’s made a terrible career decision moving to Rangers. Players like MacGregor, Jones and Goldson wouldn’t get a game down here in the Championship, and the horrible kick and rush pub team football they play predictably passed Aribo by. It’s also hard to see why Steven Gerrard is wasting his time up there...he’s achieving nothing...Rangers are shit, and I say that as an avowed disliker of Celtic.. Agreed .. I watched it and Aribo was poor to be fair , really don’t see how this move going to improve him he looked like he gone backwards did not seem to know his role in the team ..... it was a ridiculous move and another one who’s agent just did not care about his career just the money ... What a waste of talent...
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Post by willett on Sept 1, 2019 15:27:30 GMT
I watched the Old Firm game earlier. That’s one of the poorest games I have seen Joe Aribo have, and confirmed my view that he’s made a terrible career decision moving to Rangers. Players like MacGregor, Jones and Goldson wouldn’t get a game down here in the Championship, and the horrible kick and rush pub team football they play predictably passed Aribo by. It’s also hard to see why Steven Gerrard is wasting his time up there...he’s achieving nothing...Rangers are shit, and I say that as an avowed disliker of Celtic.. Agreed .. I watched it and Aribo was poor to be fair , really don’t see how this move going to improve him he looked like he gone backwards did not seem to know his role in the team ..... it was a ridiculous move and another one who’s agent just did not care about his career just the money ... What a waste of talent... Can't blame him with what RD did.
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Post by pulled off at half time on Sept 1, 2019 15:37:53 GMT
Agreed .. I watched it and Aribo was poor to be fair , really don’t see how this move going to improve him he looked like he gone backwards did not seem to know his role in the team ..... it was a ridiculous move and another one who’s agent just did not care about his career just the money ... What a waste of talent... Can't blame him with what RD did. Zzzzzzzzz
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Post by Nick on Sept 1, 2019 15:38:35 GMT
He was rubbish today, but he's been excellent for them up until now. The kid is allowed a bad game.
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Post by willett on Sept 1, 2019 15:55:26 GMT
Can't blame him with what RD did. Zzzzzzzzz Do you agree with what RD did then?
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Post by cafc2002 on Sept 1, 2019 15:57:53 GMT
Do you agree with what RD did then? Is this going to turn into yet another thread about RD ?
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Post by willett on Sept 1, 2019 15:59:22 GMT
Do you agree with what RD did then? Is this going to turn into yet another thread about RD ? Nope. A comment was made about Aribo leaving because his agent was greedy. That's not entirely true that's all.
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Post by cafc2002 on Sept 1, 2019 16:05:24 GMT
Is this going to turn into yet another thread about RD ? Nope. A comment was made about Aribo leaving because his agent was greedy. That's not entirely true that's all. Well it is sort of true. Brentford came to us two days ago asking about Joe. They said they tried for him. Joe wasn’t even aware Brentford were interested in him. His agent should have told him. That’s wrong. Lee Bowyer quote.
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Post by pulled off at half time on Sept 1, 2019 16:06:38 GMT
You just get such a boner for RD , you bring him up relentlessly, we all know he has no real interest in Charlton but not everything is his fault , Aribo agent influenced him massively. Stop spanking your piece over Roland and move on things are good ..
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Post by willett on Sept 1, 2019 16:10:20 GMT
You just get such a boner for RD , you bring him up relentlessly, we all know he has no real interest in Charlton but not everything is his fault , Aribo agent influenced him massively. Stop spanking your piece over Roland and move on things are good .. You're such a funny geezer! His wage offer was apparently halved - I wouldn't accept that at work.
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Post by scabbyhorse on Sept 1, 2019 16:17:17 GMT
Aribo getting pelters from quite a few Rangers fans. He can be like Messi against all the shit teams in the SPL but what matters to the fans is the old firm games , went missing today as he did in the two big games for us.
Perhaps he ain't got that big game mentality?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 16:21:38 GMT
Aribo getting pelters from quite a few Rangers fans. He can be like Messi against all the shit teams in the SPL but what matters to the fans is the old firm games , went missing today as he did in the two big games for us. Perhaps he ain't got that big game mentality? Joe Aribo faded in quite a few games for us last season. He’s undoubtedly a talent, but I can’t see how going up to Scotland will progress his career. Just for the record on his contract, R*****d D********t shafted him. He offered a deal, withdrew it, and then offered him a new one on half the money. It seems bizarre to claim otherwise ?
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Post by massivebeak on Sept 1, 2019 16:30:47 GMT
Aribo getting pelters from quite a few Rangers fans. He can be like Messi against all the shit teams in the SPL but what matters to the fans is the old firm games , went missing today as he did in the two big games for us. Perhaps he ain't got that big game mentality? Joe Aribo faded in quite a few games for us last season. He’s undoubtedly a talent, but I can’t see how going up to Scotland will progress his career. Just for the record on his contract, R*****d D********t shafted him. He offered a deal, withdrew it, and then offered him a new one on half the money. It seems bizarre to claim otherwise ? How do you know about Aribo’s contract situation Royston? I’m not denying it happened but was wondering where I can read up on it?
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 1, 2019 16:35:53 GMT
Do you agree with what RD did then? Who gives a fuck, why are you so fucking obsessed with RD? Get some help for crying out loud, you and others because the whole shebang is pissing this forum off.!
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Post by sardonic on Sept 1, 2019 16:39:39 GMT
You are right about the contract situation, there are few of us who would accept that in most lines of work. However, the contract was still a rise on what he was getting and if he trusted in Lee bowyer then he may have realised the improvement he had made under lee and that another year or so and he could have got an even bigger money move to the premier league. He decided to go with the risk of Scottish football and working under gerrard with a good wage. It may still come off for him but there is no guarantee that gerrard will bring him on like Lee could have. I also agree that he went missing in games and am happier we now have Gallagher this season as I feel he is a much much better player despite him only being on loan.
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Post by rationaladdick on Sept 1, 2019 16:40:24 GMT
I have a little resentment streak. I tend to wish sub-par results for most players who leave us if it's on their own accord. For Aribo, who talked about how glad he was to leave, etc, I don't really want him to succeed, honestly. Or Grant, who left knowing he was going right back down to The Championship. Now, I hope he joins them in relegation to League One. Hate to say it but almost feel that way about Bauer too, who claimed he left "because he liked Preston's ambition." I did not like that. And if Taylor leaves to another Championship Club, I can tell I will grow to dislike him tremendously. I want the world to realize that leaving us is not good for their career.
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Post by AndyB on Sept 1, 2019 16:53:39 GMT
You just get such a boner for RD , you bring him up relentlessly, we all know he has no real interest in Charlton but not everything is his fault , Aribo agent influenced him massively. Stop spanking your piece over Roland and move on things are good .. I think wanking in the mirror is the new saying 😂
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