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Post by elfsborgfranboras on Aug 27, 2019 17:07:15 GMT
I'm gonna sting you later Andrew. i very much doubt that , I’m very successful at swatting pests F***** me there Andrew.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 17:08:55 GMT
Duchatelet arselicker Jim White currently disgracing hinself on Sky Sports - appearing alongside a countdown clock timing down Bury & Bolton’s demise. It’s fair to say this isn’t going down to well with fans of any club. Good old Jim White...anything to get his Botox’d face on the telly. He is class, our Jim. Pure class.
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Post by scabbyhorse on Aug 27, 2019 17:09:56 GMT
Perhaps how Charlton are being run at present is the correct way? Obviously it wasn’t when the rat first took over but if he pulled the funds now it could so easily be us too. Leeds could be in trouble if they don’t reach the promised land this season as well.
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Post by scabbyhorse on Aug 27, 2019 17:11:28 GMT
Meanwhile in la la premiership land some players are earning 300k plus a week!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 17:16:05 GMT
Perhaps how Charlton are being run at present is the correct way? Obviously it wasn’t when the rat first took over but if he pulled the funds now it could so easily be us too. Leeds could be in trouble if they don’t reach the promised land this season too. It depends how you choose to define 'the correct way'. There are many ways to measure that, and different fans will prefer some methods or criteria over others. What measurements or comparisons do you have in mind when suggesting/speculating Charlton Athletic is being run the correct way?
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Post by cafc2002 on Aug 27, 2019 17:16:54 GMT
It is sad but both teams spent beyond their means knowing full well what the final result could be. It’s unacceptable that the league do not have better control through ffp or scmp. I’m more sad for the poor businesses who will have a knock on effect as a result of their greed which could bankrupt them. I just hope the rules change as a result of this debacle. The teams didn’t spend beyond their means...their then owners did. Now it’s the loyal fans & the local community that will pay the penalty. I’ve just been listening to a piece on the radio about how many small traders in the indirect supply chain will be affected in Bury. I still don’t understand why the EFL can’t extend the deadline. Bolton have been struggling since relegation from the Premier league, if these pathetic FFP rules were a lot more strict then maybe things might be different, seeing teams like QPR and Bournemouth get away with breaking the rules with pathetic fines gives owners no incentive to do better with the finances of the club they are running. It's always small family owned businesses that suffer the programme printers the local pubs caterers etc.
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Post by scabbyhorse on Aug 27, 2019 17:25:38 GMT
Perhaps how Charlton are being run at present is the correct way? Obviously it wasn’t when the rat first took over but if he pulled the funds now it could so easily be us too. Leeds could be in trouble if they don’t reach the promised land this season too. It depends how you choose to define 'the correct way'. There are many ways to measure that, and different fans will prefer some methods or criteria over others. I suppose to have a budget and stick with it. Some of us are calling for the rat to pay Lyle 25k a week 1.3 million a year on a +2 year contract. Now maths is not my greatest forte and yes I hate the rat as much as anyone else but those figures are just not sustainable for a club of our size. I’m just throwing a couple of things out there.
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Post by sardonic on Aug 27, 2019 17:27:29 GMT
It is sad but both teams spent beyond their means knowing full well what the final result could be. It’s unacceptable that the league do not have better control through ffp or scmp. I’m more sad for the poor businesses who will have a knock on effect as a result of their greed which could bankrupt them. I just hope the rules change as a result of this debacle. The teams didn’t spend beyond their means...their then owners did. Now it’s the loyal fans & the local community that will pay the penalty. I’ve just been listening to a piece on the radio about how many small traders in the indirect supply chain will be affected in Bury. I still don’t understand why the EFL can’t extend the deadline. When you talk of OWNER, they own the team. The fans were quite happy when the going was good but it wasn’t sustainable. It’s true the fans suffer but there will be some that would have predicted this happening as living beyond your means is never sustainable in the long term. Unless the league act they won’t be the last! Thankfully it won’t be us.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 17:37:35 GMT
When you talk of OWNER, they own the team. The fans were quite happy when the going was good but it wasn’t sustainable. It’s true the fans suffer but there will be some that would have predicted this happening as living beyond your means is never sustainable in the long term. Unless the league act they won’t be the last! Thankfully it won’t be us. Indeed. We are fortunate to have the owner's written commitment to continuing to run CAFC as a viable business during the ongoing sale process;
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Post by cafc2002 on Aug 27, 2019 17:41:49 GMT
I hope Sky get torn a new arsehole over that countdown clock, distasteful to say the least !
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 17:42:21 GMT
The teams didn’t spend beyond their means...their then owners did. Now it’s the loyal fans & the local community that will pay the penalty. I’ve just been listening to a piece on the radio about how many small traders in the indirect supply chain will be affected in Bury. I still don’t understand why the EFL can’t extend the deadline. When you talk of OWNER, they own the team. The fans were quite happy when the going was good but it wasn’t sustainable. It’s true the fans suffer but there will be some that would have predicted this happening as living beyond your means is never sustainable in the long term. Unless the league act they won’t be the last! Thankfully it won’t be us. I see what you did there ....sneaking in a little pro Duchâtelet comment & hoping nobody would notice. Unfortunately for you, I did. As I’ve told you before, a club motto of “Roland Pays The Council Tax” ain’t going to get the punters flooding back. And how do you know that the fans of Bury & Bolton were happy at the time. A trademark supposition there.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 17:43:50 GMT
I hope Sky get torn a new arsehole over that countdown clock, distasteful to say the least ! I’ve haven’t seen Jim White that excited since Rick Everitt offered him a cut price VOTV.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 17:49:41 GMT
So 5pm has come and gone.
Are we or the fans of Bury & Bolton any the wiser as to what is actually happening?
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Post by cafc2002 on Aug 27, 2019 18:10:31 GMT
So 5pm has come and gone. Are we or the fans of Bury & Bolton any the wiser as to what is actually happening? Seems to be more takers for Bury than Bolton, think both will be ok tbh, think the 5 o'clock deadline was a bit of non event.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 18:20:25 GMT
So 5pm has come and gone. Are we or the fans of Bury & Bolton any the wiser as to what is actually happening? The EFL Brain’s Trust are still in their crisis meeting.
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Post by elfsborgfranboras on Aug 27, 2019 18:27:22 GMT
The teams didn’t spend beyond their means...their then owners did. Now it’s the loyal fans & the local community that will pay the penalty. I’ve just been listening to a piece on the radio about how many small traders in the indirect supply chain will be affected in Bury. I still don’t understand why the EFL can’t extend the deadline. When you talk of OWNER, they own the team. The fans were quite happy when the going was good but it wasn’t sustainable. It’s true the fans suffer but there will be some that would have predicted this happening as living beyond your means is never sustainable in the long term. Unless the league act they won’t be the last! Thankfully it won’t be us. Roland is wonderful, he pays the bills.
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Post by cafc2002 on Aug 27, 2019 18:31:40 GMT
When you talk of OWNER, they own the team. The fans were quite happy when the going was good but it wasn’t sustainable. It’s true the fans suffer but there will be some that would have predicted this happening as living beyond your means is never sustainable in the long term. Unless the league act they won’t be the last! Thankfully it won’t be us. Roland is wonderful, he pays the bills. Zzzzzzzz
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Post by elfsborgfranboras on Aug 27, 2019 18:36:17 GMT
Roland is wonderful, he pays the bills. Zzzzzzzz Go to bed if you're tired.
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Post by cafc2002 on Aug 27, 2019 18:38:23 GMT
Go to bed if you're tired. Think I might have to your sending me to sleep, who needs sleeping pills with you about.
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Post by sardonic on Aug 27, 2019 18:43:29 GMT
When you talk of OWNER, they own the team. The fans were quite happy when the going was good but it wasn’t sustainable. It’s true the fans suffer but there will be some that would have predicted this happening as living beyond your means is never sustainable in the long term. Unless the league act they won’t be the last! Thankfully it won’t be us. I see what you did there ....sneaking in a little pro Duchâtelet comment & hoping nobody would notice. Unfortunately for you, I did. As I’ve told you before, a club motto of “Roland Pays The Council Tax” ain’t going to get the punters flooding back. And how do you know that the fans of Bury & Bolton were happy at the time. A trademark supposition there. Pro Duchâtelet comment? Not at all. I will be glad when Roland sells but as long as the new owner doesn’t put us into the same position as Bury or Bolton. How were they happy? Well I didn’t see any pigs on their pitch or crisp packets in the stands so that’s a telltale sign I’d have thought?!
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Post by sardonic on Aug 27, 2019 18:44:53 GMT
When you talk of OWNER, they own the team. The fans were quite happy when the going was good but it wasn’t sustainable. It’s true the fans suffer but there will be some that would have predicted this happening as living beyond your means is never sustainable in the long term. Unless the league act they won’t be the last! Thankfully it won’t be us. Indeed. We are fortunate to have the owner's written commitment to continuing to run CAFC as a viable business during the ongoing sale process; Now there’s a tongue in cheek comment if there ever was one!
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Post by scabbyhorse on Aug 27, 2019 19:43:52 GMT
I don’ think anyone is pro Duchatelet we all want him to sell but I just cannot imagine anyone who does buy the club being rich enough to start throwing around 25k a week wages without putting the clubs future in peril.
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Post by oldred on Aug 27, 2019 20:07:48 GMT
Indeed. We are fortunate to have the owner's written commitment to continuing to run CAFC as a viable business during the ongoing sale process; Now there’s a tongue in cheek comment if there ever was one! I would think the fans of Bolton and Bury, would at the moment give anything for an owner who pledged to pay the bills and the staff every month, whether some on here will accept and admit that or not. ....... go on, I’m waiting for the abuse.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 20:41:01 GMT
When you talk of OWNER, they own the team. The fans were quite happy when the going was good but it wasn’t sustainable. It’s true the fans suffer but there will be some that would have predicted this happening as living beyond your means is never sustainable in the long term. Unless the league act they won’t be the last! Thankfully it won’t be us. Roland is wonderful, he pays the bills. Here we go again.😴
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 21:31:00 GMT
I would think the fans of Bolton and Bury, would at the moment give anything for an owner who pledged to pay the bills and the staff every month, whether some on here will accept and admit that or not. ....... go on , I’m waiting for the abuse. There is the sad irony. Duchatelet's written commitment to continue paying the bills and the staff at CAFC was part of a statement expressing his frustration at being unable to sell the Club. And a written confirmation that he still intends to do so. With other Clubs being sold and taken over all the time, is there a common factor between Bolton Wanderers, Bury and Charlton Athletic which makes all three Clubs impossible to sell to new owners? We don't know that there is a common factor of course. The three cases may be completely different and only appear similar in some respects by coincidence. And Duchatelet's vast wealth sets him apart from the owners of Bolton and Bury of course. The Bills and the staff will always be paid while he is the owner. But if there is a common factor preventing a sale, could it have something to do with an unknown twist to the financial state of CAFC when Duchatelet bought the Club in 2014 - something he missed when he did his due diligence? I know this is not a new theory. But if there is anything in it, then what is happening to Bolton and Bury right now could be just a little closer beyond the horizon for Charlton Athletic than we currently think it is.
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Post by willett on Aug 27, 2019 22:19:23 GMT
Bury expelled from Football League!
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Post by oldred on Aug 27, 2019 22:26:16 GMT
Bury expelled from Football League! That’s sad news, I feel for the fans and all of the businesses that are going to suffer. There is such a massive gulf between the top teams, and every other team. Financially football really has gone crazy. I hoped that they might have been saved, I can imagine how I would be feeling right now if it had been Charlton.
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Post by squareball on Aug 27, 2019 22:53:32 GMT
When you talk of OWNER, they own the team. The fans were quite happy when the going was good but it wasn’t sustainable. It’s true the fans suffer but there will be some that would have predicted this happening as living beyond your means is never sustainable in the long term. Unless the league act they won’t be the last! Thankfully it won’t be us. I see what you did there ....sneaking in a little pro Duchâtelet comment & hoping nobody would notice. Unfortunately for you, I did. As I’ve told you before, a club motto of “Roland Pays The Council Tax” ain’t going to get the punters flooding back. And how do you know that the fans of Bury & Bolton were happy at the time. A trademark supposition there. “Roland PaysThe Council Tax” brought you back.....5 years of destruction and you decided to support the regime. That’ll go down like a rat sandwich in CARDland. It’s very amusing watching you give pelters to others for things you are guilty of yourself. You have to be a politician? Surely you must be?
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Post by rationaladdick on Aug 28, 2019 2:34:20 GMT
Leeds could be in trouble if they don’t reach the promised land this season as well. Leeds are paying Bielsa £6,000,000 per year!! That is not sustainable. The bad news is that Leeds fans already want Bowyer next year if they don't get promoted.
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Post by thevalleybest on Aug 29, 2019 7:25:39 GMT
New Bolton owners worth £400m?.
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