|
|
Post by bexleyboy on May 13, 2019 17:38:33 GMT
Is that all ...... EFL again to soft
|
|
|
|
Post by wellingaddick on May 13, 2019 17:48:54 GMT
While it kills their chances of automatic promotion, a 12 point deduction does not rule out, a club like Bolton making it to the Playoffs and if they manage to win that, then it would be all worthwhile in their eyes.
This penalty is too soft for the irresponsible actions that have occurred at Bolton, that have been going on for years.
|
|
|
|
Post by jonkool on May 13, 2019 19:48:14 GMT
12 points is a lot to make up if you want promotion But nowhere close to the 30 points that saw Luton slide down into the Conference m8 🤔 |
|
|
|
Post by bigandy99 on May 13, 2019 20:02:19 GMT
12 points is a lot to make up if you want promotion But nowhere close to the 30 points that saw Luton slide down into the Conference m8 🤔 They might test L2 mate... |
|
|
|
Post by bexleyboy on May 14, 2019 14:11:31 GMT
Just gets more silly Bolton have set up food banks for staff who have not been paid for 3 months .......
|
|
|
|
Post by hairyhotdog on Aug 6, 2019 7:20:56 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by hairyhotdog on Aug 8, 2019 18:33:59 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by whyme on Aug 9, 2019 0:07:33 GMT
Is magennis not being paid? Karma is a great thing.
|
|
|
|
Post by MidlandRed on Aug 9, 2019 6:32:06 GMT
Is magennis not being paid? Karma is a great thing. He's gone to Hull |
|
|
|
Post by elfsborgfranboras on Aug 10, 2019 7:11:42 GMT
I suppose Duchatelet is not so bad after all........................... |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 7:46:30 GMT
Is magennis not being paid? Karma is a great thing. That’s harsh on Magennis, who perhaps should consider setting up a Twitter account and posting sneering comments from Gangsta Rappers. That seems to be the preferred communication method for Charlton strikers who want to abandon ship. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 7:53:19 GMT
Is magennis not being paid? Karma is a great thing. That’s harsh on Magennis, who perhaps should consider setting up a Twitter account and posting sneering comments from Gangsta Rappers. That seems to be the preferred communication method for Charlton strikers who want to abandon ship. I always thought it funny when he left, that Lee Bowyer said " I hope he comes back to say goodbye". Did he leave in a sulk?..... |
|
|
|
Post by bexleyboy on Aug 10, 2019 11:45:16 GMT
The treatment of Bury in conjunction with Bolton has been awful from the EFL ... they had chance after chance and still allowed to play their game today ..... where Bury basically been thrown on the scrape heap already !!! Shocking
|
|
|
|
Post by elfsborgfranboras on Aug 10, 2019 12:28:26 GMT
The treatment of Bury in conjunction with Bolton has been awful from the EFL ... they had chance after chance and still allowed to play their game today ..... where Bury basically been thrown on the scrape heap already !!! Shocking So help me God, I find myself agreeing with you. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 7:18:21 GMT
www.metro.news/colin-murray-same-old-story-on-the-socio-path-to-disaster/1676874/Bury now appear to have flatlined. Horrible situation for their fans. Thinking of the millions swirling around in the Prem, and yet there is no help available for Bury. I read on here somewhere that the reason the Prem keeps nearly all the money is that they are the ones who generate it, but the reality is the clubs there have so much they can spend millions on 'punts' in the lower leagues which they then offer out on loan for other clubs to develop. There is also the many players up top who started life in the lower leagues - we have recently contributed with Gomez and Lookman. by not helping at grass roots level (and thanks to the current divisions in the way money is spread, grass roots seems to apply from Leeds and Sheffield Wednesday down) this sort of madness goes on and on.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 9:23:40 GMT
The Bury situation is pretty much untenable now, regarding their fixtures this season anyway.
I doubt that there are enough midweek slots free for them to catch up on all their postponed games. And if there still are at the moment there won't be for much longer.
The EFL can't just carry on postponing their matches one at a time indefinitely.
It's very sad that (some way or another) the riches swilling around at the top end of football cannot be tapped somehow in order to support Bury even temporarily.
I don't know the details of their demise and who's to blame, but I don't ever want to see a football Club go under.
|
|
|
|
Post by Mundell on Aug 16, 2019 11:40:56 GMT
The EFL have been bending over backwards to help to save both Bolton and Bury, or at least to avoid being held responsible for the demise of either club.
There is clearly a limit to what they can do, however. If Bolton are on thin ice, Bury have already fallen through and are now immersed in very cold water. Unfortunately, they don’t have long left.
What might the EFL do to prevent more clubs drowning? To say the least, it’s not easy. It’s not reasonable to expect them to judge competence. Nor are Premier League handouts the answer. More money from the EPL would probably increase expenditure, while failing to improve the financial position of clubs, just as it has in the Championship.
What is clear is that FFP hasn’t worked. Some aspects of FFP are contentious and, as we know, clubs in the Championship voted to loosen the limits on spending shortly after Duchatelet acquired Charlton. Part of the argument here is that owners should be free to spend what they want and, no doubt, that debate will rumble on.
As I’ve noted before, the SCMP, which is the Leagues One and Two version of FFP, doesn’t actually limit spending. Instead, it limits the extent of debt funding.
It has always seemed to me that this approach is entirely defensible, but it has failed, and in turn the rules have failed the fans, because the EFL have not been diligent enough in policing and enforcing sustainable funding models.
It’s hard when many clubs are inherently loss making, but if the EFL wants to prevent more Bolton’s, Bury’s and Notts County’s it needs to exercise much more control over how debt funding works.
At an extreme, if funding was ‘equity only’ (and as we’ve discussed some forms of lending are, in reality, defacto equity), then when clubs changed hands the challenge would solely be about funding future losses, not unraveling or unwinding debts to sundry external creditors.
I don’t envy the EFL. Their job isn’t easy in this context, especially when owners, like at Derby for example, blatantly sidestep FFP through nefarious sale and lease back arrangements which drive a coach and horses through the rules.
Good luck to the fans of both Bolton and Bury. I fear the best Bolton can hope for is a season in League Two while Bury may now be facing oblivion.
|
|
|
|
Post by canterburyaddick on Aug 16, 2019 12:55:26 GMT
Is magennis not being paid? Karma is a great thing. That’s harsh on Magennis, who perhaps should consider setting up a Twitter account and posting sneering comments from Gangsta Rappers. That seems to be the preferred communication method for Charlton strikers who want to abandon ship. And I find myself agreeing with Royston. Magennis was not a bad player for us, a good attitude and a decent and articulate bloke when I met him at East Kent Addicks. Should have scored more though. A lot of people forget that Maidstone United were left to fold when they were a League club after the Local authority left them high and dry. If it's any comfort to Bury, Maidstone are on their way back with a nice new stadium near the centre of town. So hopefully Bury , which is one of the great old names of football in this country, will rise again, even if they go under this time. |
|
|
|
Post by whyme on Aug 17, 2019 18:29:21 GMT
Yeah no one wants to see any football club fold. its heart breaking for life long supporters. We are all football people at the end of the day. The EFL sound like tricky conts to me
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2019 18:32:13 GMT
Haven't really been keeping up with the Bury Bolton situation. Can someone tell me why Bolton can play there games but Bury can't?.
|
|
|
|
Post by bigandy99 on Aug 17, 2019 19:20:35 GMT
Haven't really been keeping up with the Bury Bolton situation. Can someone tell me why Bolton can play there games but Bury can't?. I think Bury can’t prove their finances for the season., |
|
|
|
Post by elfsborgfranboras on Aug 17, 2019 19:59:51 GMT
That’s harsh on Magennis, who perhaps should consider setting up a Twitter account and posting sneering comments from Gangsta Rappers. That seems to be the preferred communication method for Charlton strikers who want to abandon ship. And I find myself agreeing with Royston. Magennis was not a bad player for us, a good attitude and a decent and articulate bloke when I met him at East Kent Addicks. Should have scored more though. A lot of people forget that Maidstone United were left to fold when they were a League club after the Local authority left them high and dry. If it's any comfort to Bury, Maidstone are on their way back with a nice new stadium near the centre of town. So hopefully Bury , which is one of the great old names of football in this country, will rise again, even if they go under this time. Is it the East Kent Addicks that the Bromley Addicks branch question? |
|
|
|
Post by elfsborgfranboras on Aug 17, 2019 20:01:39 GMT
Haven't really been keeping up with the Bury Bolton situation. Can someone tell me why Bolton can play there games but Bury can't?. I think Bury can’t prove their finances for the season., After avoiding an answer repeatedly, the Bury dude categorically said that he would sell/save the club. We shall see. |
|
|
|
Post by elfsborgfranboras on Aug 17, 2019 20:03:53 GMT
Haven't really been keeping up with the Bury Bolton situation. Can someone tell me why Bolton can play there games but Bury can't?. Fair question. It would seem that Bolton have been on the verge of selling but deadlines have not been met. I may be wrong, as usual! |
|
|
|
Post by canterburyaddick on Aug 17, 2019 23:28:01 GMT
And I find myself agreeing with Royston. Magennis was not a bad player for us, a good attitude and a decent and articulate bloke when I met him at East Kent Addicks. Should have scored more though. A lot of people forget that Maidstone United were left to fold when they were a League club after the Local authority left them high and dry. If it's any comfort to Bury, Maidstone are on their way back with a nice new stadium near the centre of town. So hopefully Bury , which is one of the great old names of football in this country, will rise again, even if they go under this time. Is it the East Kent Addicks that the Bromley Addicks branch question? Sorry don't understand the question. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 21:51:40 GMT
Haven't really been keeping up with the Bury Bolton situation. Can someone tell me why Bolton can play there games but Bury can't?. I think Bury can’t prove their finances for the season., Thanks Bigandy |
|
|
|
Post by bexleyboy on Aug 19, 2019 16:51:30 GMT
Bolton v Doncaster tomorrow night has now been called due to the welfare of their young players .....
EFL over to you ?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 17:36:36 GMT
Bolton v Doncaster tomorrow night has now been called due to the welfare of their young players ..... EFL over to you ? The decision to postpone this weekend's fixture against Doncaster Rovers has been taken by Bolton Wanderers FC themselves, because they claim that playing the fixture will be detremental to the health and development of their youth players. I'm sorry, but what does that have to do with the EFL? I feel for the fans of BWFC and Bury. But the problems at those Clubs are of their own making. And for Bolton to call off a League fixture because they can't field enough senior players is self-indulgence far beyond what is acceptable. The EFL has been far too tolerant. Football Clubs are now taking the p*ss. Bolton Wanderers should now be expelled from the Football League. Their excuse about welfare of young players is PC snowflake rubbish of the wishy-washiest kind. In short it's bollocks. And Bury should be kicked out as well. The other 70 EFL Clubs don't need this continual nonsense. If you can't run your Club properly then it should expelled and the spaces made available for other Clubs who do run themselves properly. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 17:36:40 GMT
Bolton v Doncaster tomorrow night has now been called due to the welfare of their young players ..... EFL over to you ? EFL are not fit for purpose. They couldn't run a bath. The transfer window closed eleven days ago and still no answer from the EFL. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 17:45:17 GMT
Bolton v Doncaster tomorrow night has now been called due to the welfare of their young players ..... EFL over to you ? EFL are not fit for purpose. They couldn't run a bath. The transfer window closed eleven days ago and still no answer from the EFL. With all due respect though the business with this player Charlton tried to sign at the last possible second is a molehill compared to the mountains of trouble surrounding Bolton and Bury. A miniscule irritation against the ridiculous and grave matter of two EFL Clubs who can't or won't fulfill their fixtures. I agree the EFL is doing itself no favours on any of these issues. But it should take some hard decisions in the following order; 1. Kick Bolton Wanderers out of the League. 2. Kick Bury out of the League. 3. Tell Charlton whether they have signed Tomer Hemed or not. I'm sorry Hemed is in limbo right now, but that's down to Brighton. It's not our fault or the EFL's fault.
Duchatelet constantly moans about protesting Charlton fans making things awkward for him. Now the boot's on the other foot with him and the EFL. He's the one who has been constantly antagonising them (protesting against them if you will) and now if they are disinclined to help Charlton out because RD has been such a pain in the arse to them then I can't help enjoying the delicious irony of that. Why don't you shut up Roland and assume the position so the EFL can butt**** you some more. Exactly what you've been asking Charlton supporters to do for the last six years. |
|
