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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 13:41:44 GMT
Two further points worth mentioning.
a) We currently have 22 pts. Last season we only had 24 pts by the middle of February.
b) rikofold says: "They had 62% of the ball, they created four times as many chances as we did. We had so little threat, but the only two shots we had on target we scored from. We stole that game, we neither deserved it nor earned it - we were dominated by a team who from the table would appear to be the second worst team in the division."
This is so negative and cock-eyed. You play to your strengths - which in our case is inviting them on for Bikey and Ben-Haim to snuff them out, so of course opposition teams have lots of possession. The point is we don't let them do anything with it and then a couple of bits of magic at the other end and the game is in the bag. But if you honestly think the likes of Jackson and Cousins should be camped out around the oppo box, pinging fast balls around to feet and not allowing any possession to the other side, then you are living in cloud cuckoo land. They're simply not set up to do that.
We totally, 100 per cent deserved and earned those three points last night by playing to our (very considerable) strengths.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 13:45:46 GMT
I see a team earning points but scarcely deserving them. It's not pessimistic to imagine a trend where we're conceding 3 times as many chances every game will end in us conceding more goals than we score in most games. FFS, there have only been two games in our season to date where we've had more than 5 shots on target, and the last one of those was back in August against ten men. Our last 5 has seen us manage barely 2 shots per game on average. Don't you ever tire of slagging off our team? Of course we deserve the points we've accumulated. Peeters knows the strengths and weaknesses of the side and he plays to them and exploits them brilliantly. There seems no hope of cheering you up and coaxing you out of your doom and gloom, so I'm not going to bother trying any more!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 13:57:22 GMT
SR. It's not a question of 'getting it' - my God you're relentlessly arrogant aren't you? - it's a question of challenging your view there are no downsides. We may agree we're travelling in the right direction, time will tell for sure, but that doesn't mean that everything is rosy, or indeed has always been.
What I do get is that you have long made up your mind that everything is good and judge every shred of evidence to the contrary in light of what you already believe. Most of the rest of us choose to view the evidence and conclude reasonably on what it demonstrates. Like the worst of religious zealots, you fit the evidence to your theory. Just because you say it doesn't make it a fact, fella.
Right now, the football is awful but the good news is that we're still winning points. Hopefully before the latter ends Bob will find a way of getting an alternative way of playing into this threadbare squad, because otherwise there's a good chance we'll be playing awful football whilst not winning points.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 14:02:42 GMT
SR. It's not a question of 'getting it' - my God you're relentlessly arrogant aren't you? - it's a question of challenging your view there are no downsides. We may agree we're travelling in the right direction, time will tell for sure, but that doesn't mean that everything is rosy, or indeed has always been. What I do get is that you have long made up your mind that everything is good and judge every shred of evidence to the contrary in light of what you already believe. Most of the rest of us choose to view the evidence and conclude reasonably on what it demonstrates. Like the worst of religious zealots, you fit the evidence to your theory. Just because you say it doesn't make it a fact, fella.Right now, the football is awful but the good news is that we're still winning points. Hopefully before the latter ends Bob will find a way of getting an alternative way of playing into this threadbare squad, because otherwise there's a good chance we'll be playing awful football whilst not winning points. And that is not only arrogant but patronising with it. If you think "the football is awful", you don't have to go for your weekly dose of torture. Watch something that gives you pleasure instead. Your DVD of Charlton's division three promotion campaign, perhaps. I really do wish you would cheer up, but it seems to be a lost cause!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 14:09:38 GMT
IA, straw man arguments, extrapolations beyond any reason - bring the discussion back to a reasoned debate about football and I might find some respect for your posts.
There's another thread, not started by me, that shows just how many people are frustrated with the way our team is going. We've been worked out - press high and you'll stop us playing. Last night we played a team who had managed just 8 points and 9 goals in 13 games whose only recent win had been against a ten man team themselves on the brink of sacking their manager. We created just 5 chances, and scored the only two on target.
Of course, no team can lose if they don't concede, and you're right that two moments of magic in the game won it for us - but they had to. Miss one of those and we would have dropped at least 2 points last night.
We're conceding a goal a game right now, which means to win a game we need to score twice. If we're only creating two shots on target every game, we need to score with every single one of them. Is it negative to suggest we won't, or realistic? You tell me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 14:10:20 GMT
PS. You have a strange way of trying to cheer me up...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 14:30:20 GMT
PS. You have a strange way of trying to cheer me up... No, I have to accept you are happy in your misery and your main souce of pleasure at the moment seems to be stalking seriously red over every thread in which he posts and accusing him of arrogance and all the other derogatory, disrespectful terms you so love to toss around at anyone who has the temerity to disagree with you. I seem to recall you were such a supporter of the manager and his players last Jan/Feb when we had 24 pts from 28 games. This season we have 22pts from 13 games and you think the team is awful, embarrassing etc etc. I thnk we can all draw our own conclusions from that. As for "bring the discussion back to a reasoned debate about football and I might find some respect for your posts", it really takes a breathtaking self-absorption to dismiss anyone who dares to hold a different view as lacking "reason". Sorry to be so unreasonable and I know my views deserve no respect , but I think Peeters' record shows that he knows an awful lot about how to play this game and your cockeyed insistence that our team is awful indicates to me that you know conssiderably less - and quite possibly nothing at all.
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Post by ridgeback on Oct 22, 2014 14:34:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 14:35:12 GMT
IA this is exactly what I'm talking about. Instead of addressing my football points, you persist in talking about me personally. Today I've been a helpless pessimist, arrogant, miserable and a stalker to name but 4.
Try addressing this one: "We're conceding a goal a game right now, which means to win a game we need to score twice. If we're only creating two shots on target every game, we need to score with every single one of them. Is it negative to suggest we won't, or realistic? You tell me."
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Post by ridgeback on Oct 22, 2014 14:47:18 GMT
Bolton had possession all the time, they had 14 corners, they attacked but they conceded two goals and lost the game. They have 8 points and conceded 23 goals. I prefer the Charlton way.
I agree, things can be improved. The squad is too small.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 15:02:42 GMT
PS. You have a strange way of trying to cheer me up... No, I have to accept you are happy in your misery (and your main souce of pleasure at the moment seems to be stalking seriously red over every thread in which he posts and accusing him of arrogance and all the other derogatory, disrespectful terms you so love to toss around at anyone who has the temerity to disagree with you. I seem to recall you were such a supporter of the manager and his players last Jan/Feb when we had 24 pts from 28 games. This season we have 22pts from 13 games and you think the team is awful, embarrassing etc etc. I thnk we can all draw our own conclusions from that. As for "bring the discussion back to a reasoned debate about football and I might find some respect for your posts", it really takes a breathtaking self-absorption to dismiss anyone who dares to hold a different view as lacking "reason". Sorry to be so unreasonable and I know my views deserve no respect , but I think Peeters' record shows that he knows an awful lot about how to play this game and your cockeyed insistence that our team is awful indicates to me that you know conssiderably less - and quite possibly nothing at all. To be clear: I'm not happy in any misery - I'm happy, very happy, and not at all miserable - but I'm not enjoying watching backs-to-the-wall displays week in week out. SR posts in just about every thread, wouldn't have the time in the day to stalk him but I do find I disagree with his base contention that RD can do no wrong, which seems to influence every post he makes. Draw what conclusion you like, but I've supported every manager we've had, including Dowie and Reed, and I support Peeters - he's doing a good job - but things can't carry on as they have been, because we need to score a goal in every 3 shots to win a game. I didn't think we were playing great football last year, it was awful on the whole. I believe we had a poor squad, something which clearly Peeters and RD agreed with. I prefer our points tally, but the chances have dried up as teams have worked out how one dimensional we are. I respect your views, it's the posts that slag me off for the sake of it I don't respect and never will. I wish I'd hear your views once in a while, rather than the poisoned diatribe you reserve for me. Likewise I've not dismissed your disagreeing with me as 'lacking reason' - I've dismissed your posts that contain little or not football content at all. Peeters' Championship record is only 13 games old. If we don't win in the next 13 I might not think he's got a great record at all. I don't expect that, but it's going to be hard to win games if we're only having 2 shots on target each game. Your last post addressed none of the points I've raised in this post match discussion.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 15:12:37 GMT
IA this is exactly what I'm talking about. Instead of addressing my football points, you persist in talking about me personally. Today I've been a helpless pessimist, arrogant, miserable and a stalker to name but 4. Try addressing this one: "We're conceding a goal a game right now, which means to win a game we need to score twice. If we're only creating two shots on target every game, we need to score with every single one of them. Is it negative to suggest we won't, or realistic? You tell me." But it is you who has littered your posts with personal and derogatory comments , always playing not the ball but the man - particularly against seriously red. I think your latest 'try addressing this one' sums up where our attitude to suporting the club we both profess to love differs dramatically. We have conceded 12 goals in 13 games, which means we have the third best defensive record in the division. I applaud that. But somehow you manage to turn our superb defensive record into a negative to be sneered at. I don't know how or why you do it; possibly Freud or Jung could answer, but I cannot. I'm purring with content at our season so far and highly optimistic for the future. You, by your own words, are deeply unhappy and fearful. Fair enough,if that's the way you see it. But at the risk of sounding smug, I'd rather be in my happy shoes right now than in your tremblingly miserable ones. (And if I've drawn the flak from your stalking of seriously red, I hope he is grateful and will buy me a pint in gratitude before the next game!)
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Post by pulled off at half time on Oct 22, 2014 15:58:58 GMT
I have to say even peeters said he struggled watching last night's game. our defence has been magnificent but it does make hard viewing when we are constantly under the pump. The crowd generally were to nervous expecting an equalizer to enjoy the game .I loved the result just hard viewing apart from the goals which were both well taken.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 16:32:25 GMT
IA this is exactly what I'm talking about. Instead of addressing my football points, you persist in talking about me personally. Today I've been a helpless pessimist, arrogant, miserable and a stalker to name but 4. Try addressing this one: "We're conceding a goal a game right now, which means to win a game we need to score twice. If we're only creating two shots on target every game, we need to score with every single one of them. Is it negative to suggest we won't, or realistic? You tell me." But it is you who has littered your posts with personal and derogatory comments , always playing not the ball but the man - particularly against seriously red. I think your latest 'try addressing this one' sums up where our attitude to suporting the club we both profess to love differs dramatically. We have conceded 12 goals in 13 games, which means we have the third best defensive record in the division. I applaud that. But somehow you manage to turn our superb defensive record into a negative to be sneered at. I don't know how or why you do it; possibly Freud or Jung could answer, but I cannot. I'm purring with content at our season so far and highly optimistic for the future. You, by your own words, are deeply unhappy and fearful. Fair enough,if that's the way you see it. But at the risk of sounding smug, I'd rather be in my happy shoes right now than in your tremblingly miserable ones. (And if I've drawn the flak from your stalking of seriously red, I hope he is grateful and will buy me a pint in gratitude before the next game!) Maybe I should buy you both a pint. :-) "By my own words". You, my friend, have interpreted my own words " I'm happy, very happy..." to mean " deeply unhappy and fearful". That's a leap even for you. No, what I am is looking at our performances and in particular the meagre number of chances created and simply saying, drawing on my experience of football, that scoring our only two shots on target is unsustainable. I've asked you to address that football point but, yet again, you ignored the question and twisted my words for your own angle. Back to the football, my point is simple. We're not playing well, we're being dominated by teams every week and relying on the form of our back five to get through them - because trust me, we won't sustain regular wins if we keep conceding 19 shots and create just 5.
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Post by ridgeback on Oct 22, 2014 16:46:13 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 16:52:56 GMT
I've asked you to address that football point but, yet again, you ignored the question and twisted my words for your own angle. Back to the football, my point is simple. We're not playing well, we're being dominated by teams every week and relying on the form of our back five to get through them - because trust me, we won't sustain regular wins if we keep conceding 19 shots and create just 5. I have addressed the "foottball point" several times but you refuse to listen. As for your rather desperate "trust me" - why on earth should we when everything you have said for the last year about Powell, Kermogant, Duchatalet, Riga, G21, Peeters etc etc. has been proven by events to be utterely and hopelessly wrong? "Drawing on my experience of football", you say? Sorry, but I much prefer to trust the experience of Duchatalet, Peeters and the upbeat words of Johnnie Jackson in the Standard the other night. I've just had a quick look back over your posting history (stalking the stalker, you might say!) and a very clear pattern emerges: every time anyone suggests that Duchatalet, Peeters and the team are doing rather well, you intervene to say that whatever the results suggest, we are actually awful and don't deserve to be where we are!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 17:17:00 GMT
So let me ask you to do something for me. Could you please quote where you addressed that specific point that I put to you twice. It's not been addressed in any posts since I asked you that I can see. Instead you've once again gone to a personal comment, describing my words as "desperate".
EDIT: I'll include it here - for a third time - so you're in no doubt which question I'm referring to: "We're conceding a goal a game right now, which means to win a game we need to score twice. If we're only creating two shots on target every game, we need to score with every single one of them. Is it negative to suggest we won't, or realistic? You tell me."
Also, perhaps you could also show me exactly what I've said that's been disproved by events. One quote will do.
You see you think you know me, you think you know what I feel about RD et al. The truth couldn't be further from your words, but like I've said countless times I'm cautiously optimistic, not blindly so.
You can choose to trust who you like. It's interesting, however, that like SR you go seeking only that evidence - like the words of Jackson - that supports what you already believe, rather than consider the contrary evidence of your own eyes and the fact that we haven't created double figure chances for more than 5 games now - that may lead you dispassionately to a more cautious conclusion.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 17:21:36 GMT
Just out of interest....have Seriously Red and our old friend, the shy and retiring Razil, ever been seen together in the same room remarkably similar views.....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 17:43:15 GMT
So let me ask you to do something for me. Could you please quote where you addressed that specific point that I put to you twice. It's not been addressed in any posts since I asked you that I can see. Instead you've once again gone to a personal comment, describing my words as "desperate". This really is a dialogue with the deaf - or at least with someone who stubbornly refuses to listen. We have a fantastic defensive record of conceding just 12 goals in 13 games. Only Derby (whom we put three past) and Middlesboro have conceded fewer. Our strength is in our defence, not in a marauding midfield, and Peeters plays to that strength; we invite the opposition on for them to be snuffed out by Bikey and Ben Haim. That means the opposition gets plenty of possession; but we don't permit them to do anything with it. Having invited them to press on, we then hit them with real quality at the other end (Norwich was a brilliant example that came close to tactical genius, but we did it last night,too). It is called playing to your strengths and it is why we have scored more goals than we have conceded. And when you do that, hey, you win more games (five) than you lose (one). Surely even you can see that through your blinkers? But all you can say (with increasing hollowness) is ' the great results are about to change ......trust me.. my knowledge of football tells me so ...blah blah blah'. Well no; there is a total absence of any track record to suggest that we should trust anything you say. Despite the vast knoweldge of the game which you so gradiosely claim, there is no justification to believe your predictions of looming catastrophe when you have called just about everything wrong about our club over the last ten months. Peeters has set his side up brilliantly to net 22 pts from 13 games (compare with Powell's 24 pts from 28 games last term) and there is every good reason to believe that come Friday night we may be equal second. But you will surely still find something to moan about because you are a fully paid up member of the Charlton Self-Loathing Society. Trust me and my knowledge of football : you are never, ever going to persaude me to join you there.
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Post by seriouslyred on Oct 22, 2014 18:32:24 GMT
SR. It's not a question of 'getting it' - my God you're relentlessly arrogant aren't you? - it's a question of challenging your view there are no downsides. We may agree we're travelling in the right direction, time will tell for sure, but that doesn't mean that everything is rosy, or indeed has always been. What I do get is that you have long made up your mind that everything is good and judge every shred of evidence to the contrary in light of what you already believe. Most of the rest of us choose to view the evidence and conclude reasonably on what it demonstrates. Like the worst of religious zealots, you fit the evidence to your theory. Just because you say it doesn't make it a fact, fella. Right now, the football is awful but the good news is that we're still winning points. Hopefully before the latter ends Bob will find a way of getting an alternative way of playing into this threadbare squad, because otherwise there's a good chance we'll be playing awful football whilst not winning points. Two things: Look at the table Look at the utube clip posted here. Then tell me that CAFC is not travelling in the right direction. Along with no regrets and no blame I have no fear of the future. Everyone agrees that we have a great back five...and now it turns out Tucudean can finish. If we were in Italy they would be singing our praises! The killer ball in football is from the centre circle to the edge of the box...Buyens and Cousins can make those balls happen...Vetokele and now Tucudean can finish them. Sure more can be done and there are risks and worries but I actually trust the club management to get them right. I don't feel the need to criticise or advise them and I make sweet fa difference anyway! I've tried to give a rational view of why I think it's all upside...bottom line is that Staprix have invested £20-25m so far in acquiring CAFC, losses this year and investing in the pitch and players. They aren't going to stop now are they? And I believe they have already added value. I had a conversation with a hedge fund analyst a long time back and he agreed that just by arriving in the play-offs one can factor in 25% of the winnings into the enterprise value of the club. Yep you can add £20-30m to the value of CAFC for taking them from 22nd to sixth. A premier league club trades for £150m so why would Staprix stop at the play-offs. That is where my certainty (not arrogance) comes from and that is why I read all of the actions to date to be focused on that goal. They make mistakes and they learn on the way - the number of experts offering advice is great but lads there's no need to worry as they actually know what they are doing. What I am surprised at is that we are travelling so far so quickly and this presents Staprix with a real dilemma for the January window. In case I sound too positive or laissez fairest there is a 100% need for a supporters trust ~ just take a look at Liege right now or CAFC 2008-2012. Put your energy into a positive collective not needless endless worry.
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Post by reamsofverse on Oct 22, 2014 18:40:49 GMT
Can we stick to the topic please guys it's post match comments thread not a party political broadcast.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 18:47:10 GMT
Whatever you say, reams. But it happens to be the most engaging debate we've had on here for a week or two and surely fundamental to one's view of whether last night's game showed if we are moving forwards or backwards?
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Post by reamsofverse on Oct 22, 2014 21:27:32 GMT
That's fine IA and a good healthy debate never hurt anybody and it's what we like to see on here but it would be better served if somebody created a new thread of it's own as many won't see it in the post match comments thread.
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Post by seriouslyred on Oct 23, 2014 8:49:09 GMT
I think the issue is that discussion about strategy and CAFC direction only come to life in the context of pre and post match discussion. I get the general message and will keep the posts around the thread heading... Plus do some more research on transfermarkt to find out how they do their valuations. And take up rikofold on his offer of a beer!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 10:29:50 GMT
SR. It's not a question of 'getting it' - my God you're relentlessly arrogant aren't you? - it's a question of challenging your view there are no downsides. We may agree we're travelling in the right direction, time will tell for sure, but that doesn't mean that everything is rosy, or indeed has always been. What I do get is that you have long made up your mind that everything is good and judge every shred of evidence to the contrary in light of what you already believe. Most of the rest of us choose to view the evidence and conclude reasonably on what it demonstrates. Like the worst of religious zealots, you fit the evidence to your theory. Just because you say it doesn't make it a fact, fella. Right now, the football is awful but the good news is that we're still winning points. Hopefully before the latter ends Bob will find a way of getting an alternative way of playing into this threadbare squad, because otherwise there's a good chance we'll be playing awful football whilst not winning points. Two things: Look at the table Look at the utube clip posted here. Then tell me that CAFC is not travelling in the right direction. Along with no regrets and no blame I have no fear of the future. Everyone agrees that we have a great back five...and now it turns out Tucudean can finish. If we were in Italy they would be singing our praises! The killer ball in football is from the centre circle to the edge of the box...Buyens and Cousins can make those balls happen...Vetokele and now Tucudean can finish them. Sure more can be done and there are risks and worries but I actually trust the club management to get them right. I don't feel the need to criticise or advise them and I make sweet fa difference anyway! I've tried to give a rational view of why I think it's all upside...bottom line is that Staprix have invested £20-25m so far in acquiring CAFC, losses this year and investing in the pitch and players. They aren't going to stop now are they? And I believe they have already added value. I had a conversation with a hedge fund analyst a long time back and he agreed that just by arriving in the play-offs one can factor in 25% of the winnings into the enterprise value of the club. Yep you can add £20-30m to the value of CAFC for taking them from 22nd to sixth. A premier league club trades for £150m so why would Staprix stop at the play-offs. That is where my certainty (not arrogance) comes from and that is why I read all of the actions to date to be focused on that goal. They make mistakes and they learn on the way - the number of experts offering advice is great but lads there's no need to worry as they actually know what they are doing. What I am surprised at is that we are travelling so far so quickly and this presents Staprix with a real dilemma for the January window. In case I sound too positive or laissez fairest there is a 100% need for a supporters trust ~ just take a look at Liege right now or CAFC 2008-2012. Put your energy into a positive collective not needless endless worry. I don't disagree that things are going in a good direction and I have no issue with positivity. I do take issue with your insistence there are no downsides to that performance. It epitomised a trend where the number of goalscoring chances has been awful for more than half our season to date leading to us having to score a goal every 3 shots or get all our shots on target. That's a downside fella. Another downside was a desperately dull performance, which is no doubt offsetting the decent results in terms of attendances - the ground was less than half full on Tuesday. In fact we've not had a single attendance over 17k this year, which is odd as the team is doing so well isn't it? Another downside is that our lack of depth was exposed in, as you describe, our 'front six'. We have one winger who's demonstrated any decent form this year, and one striker. George did a good job on Tuesday to be fair, but I don't think many of us believe he's the long term solution. Yes things are looking up, but it's a competitive league and we're scraping results together at the moment. I hope it can last, but to claim there's no downsides to Tuesday night is nothing less than choosing to ignore them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 10:40:14 GMT
I think the issue is that discussion about strategy and CAFC direction only come to life in the context of pre and post match discussion. I get the general message and will keep the posts around the thread heading... Plus do some more research on transfermarkt to find out how they do their valuations. And take up rikofold on his offer of a beer! A genuine offer- much better to talk this out where we can hear each other properly. Despite IA's ramblings I think we all have more in common that he thinks :-)
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Post by seriouslyred on Oct 23, 2014 11:10:59 GMT
I think the issue is that discussion about strategy and CAFC direction only come to life in the context of pre and post match discussion. I get the general message and will keep the posts around the thread heading... Plus do some more research on transfermarkt to find out how they do their valuations. And take up rikofold on his offer of a beer! A genuine offer- much better to talk this out where we can hear each other properly. Despite IA's ramblings I think we all have more in common that he thinks :-) We all ramble at times but beer and football go well together...I tend to go straight from work for mid week games so always a chance for a chat. On your other post crowds are disappointing as only up by 500...but as pointed out by Richard Murray and Rick Everett, it would take 3,000 additional fans every game to generate £1m. Sure we all want less empty seats - being in the top six in February will help as will more promotions. On the squad there is a long winded rationalisation of what they are doing but it looks like they are giving Tucudean, Moussa and kag chances...Vetokele, Gudmundsson and Buyens will be back soon enough to help secure those vital 14 points by Christmas / new year.
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Post by muttleycafc on Oct 23, 2014 11:25:21 GMT
Not sure why there is such an argument here- we should all be delighted with our points total to date and I think Rikofold is, but there have been some worrying aspects that have been successfully masked by the excellent defence. And long may that continue. Worrying in the sense that it might be a hindrance to us getting a play-off place – not worrying that we will be relegated. I suppose that sort of worrying is a positive in itself after last season. If Peeters was happy with the more negative aspects of our performances I’d be worried, but I'm confident, given what I have read, that he is concerned enough to be working on them in so much as he can without reinforcements in key areas that most of us would welcome.
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Post by seriouslyred on Oct 23, 2014 16:47:56 GMT
Not sure why there is such an argument here- we should all be delighted with our points total to date and I think Rikofold is, but there have been some worrying aspects that have been successfully masked by the excellent defence. And long may that continue. Worrying in the sense that it might be a hindrance to us getting a play-off place – not worrying that we will be relegated. I suppose that sort of worrying is a positive in itself after last season. If Peeters was happy with the more negative aspects of our performances I’d be worried, but I'm confident, given what I have read, that he is concerned enough to be working on them in so much as he can without reinforcements in key areas that most of us would welcome. All about fear! Fear of the future...fear that the new owner and new management team don't fully understand CAFC and the Championship... Fear that we will go on a losing streak and that all the progress in 2014 will go up in smoke. Bob Peeters today has once again repeated the message - if we are in a similar position come new year then he thinks we will acquire one or two quality players. In my book that is €5-6m and it may well be being spent six months ahead of plan because we are doing so well. I think there is a genuine worry that we might just miss the play-offs but we have the youngest squad in the Championship and only Wilson, Church are out of contract plus Buyens and Bulot are on loan for just this season... "no fear of the future" might sound glib but it is based around a philosophy of living life. All I'm saying is that we should enjoy what is fast becoming the best season in eight.
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