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Post by reamsofverse on Apr 2, 2014 17:28:58 GMT
Until there is something to discuss. This forum is losing it's focus with what we really should be talking about and that is Charlton Athletic Football Club. It's boring the life out of me to be honest and others. I am as guilty as the rest of you but let's move on.
Any more posts on any of these three topics will be removed. We don't like them and we don't need them and let's leave it at that and support RD and Jose, those on the dark will soon latch on.
People are skipping posts and beginning to skip the forum all together so please acknowledge that we don't want that after all the hard work that has gone into making the forum what it is.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2014 17:45:26 GMT
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Post by reamsofverse on Apr 2, 2014 17:54:38 GMT
No but's, no more, end of.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2014 18:02:58 GMT
Fair enough, and I welcome that, but lets give it a couple of weeks. I think I play by the rules you set on your forum and only post Trust related nonsense on the specific thread you started months ago in the "non-football" section of the site when you last decided to try and enforce some regulation. But it seems this sort of thing lasts as long as it takes for you to decide to slag off CL/CAST and then it's fair game again because you've decided not to play by the very rules you've imposed.
Like I've said, lets see.
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Post by bigandy99 on Apr 2, 2014 18:21:13 GMT
Everything has its place - I'm happy to talk survival etc!
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Post by pulled off at half time on Apr 2, 2014 18:24:39 GMT
From someone who posts on here but reads both , reams call is a breath of fresh air , I know there is personal issues with certain individuals but reams is right , for people not involved it is really boring and does detract from the real point of this forum
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Post by jackcharlton on Apr 2, 2014 18:26:06 GMT
Charlton stay up at the end of the season. RD, a man of his word, organises the meeting with G21 members, along with KM.
RD: So ladies and gentlemen, what was it you wanted to speak to me about so urgently back in March?
G21 members look at each other then look at their feet. A shuffling begins.
KM: Roland, can you see them sneaking out?
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Post by reamsofverse on Apr 2, 2014 18:30:37 GMT
Jack let's leave it mate.
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Post by jonkool on Apr 2, 2014 19:45:34 GMT
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Post by russcoveredend on Apr 2, 2014 20:20:27 GMT
Yep totally agree reams lets get this site back, really is the best forum for charlton fans f**k um living in the past we all support one club,and in years to come charlton will still b here if were here or not and fans views count but its getting to much, im proud to b a charlton fan and for the first time in years feel at last the club is heading in right direction might take some time but thats football we will have the last laugh and it will keep on going theres no other club like it and thanks to this forum and the fans
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2014 20:41:15 GMT
So any mention of the Supp*****s Tr**t is banned and all discussion of what should be on the agenda when Katrien meets the Tr**t and G** at the end of the season will be deleted?
OK, fair enough, reams. It's your forum and youy make the rules. But in my personal view, that is disfranchising members of ITTV when it comes to an important discussion of who represents the fan base, how we should be represented and what message should be conveyed to the owner and to the board. I might even have to rejoin CL to make my voice heard!
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Post by reamsofverse on Apr 2, 2014 20:59:04 GMT
Fair enough IA I see your point and yes it will be difficult to stop it if and when talks take place between the club and fans groups but what I don't want is thread after thread about it. Lately every other thread has been about the three groups of fans that I have mentioned and it really has become very boring.
You cannot stop a natural reaction to developments occur between the club and fans groups and everybody will want their two penneth worth but let's leave it until such a time when our voices are required, creating threads about any of them at the moment is pointless and clutters up the forum, surely we have enough to talk about without having to rely on the actions of other fans.
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Post by bigandy99 on Apr 2, 2014 21:06:48 GMT
So any mention of the Supp*****s Tr**t is banned and all discussion of what should be on the agenda when Katrien meets the Tr**t and G** at the end of the season will be deleted? OK, fair enough, reams. It's your forum and youy make the rules. But in my personal view, that is disfranchising members of ITTV when it comes to an important discussion of who represents the fan base, how we should be represented and what message should be conveyed to the owner and to the board. I might even have to rejoin CL to make my voice heard! Maybe the problem is that too many people are taking the Mickey instead of debating |
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Post by valleyviper on Apr 2, 2014 21:08:25 GMT
Agree that we should revert to the main topic of CAFC and not snide remarks and in-fighting, those who wish to join another board to get their opinion over are changing from a freedom of speech board where all are equal to one who, like Jehova Witnesses preaching, there's is the one and only true voice to be heard.
Let's get on with supporting RD, JR, the team and Charlton Athletic FC without recourse to bitterness.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2014 21:15:22 GMT
So any mention of the Supp*****s Tr**t is banned and all discussion of what should be on the agenda when Katrien meets the Tr**t and G** at the end of the season will be deleted? OK, fair enough. But in my personal view, that is disfranchising members of ITTV when it comes to any discussion of who represents the fan base, how we should be represented and what message should be conveyed to the owner and to the board. I might even have to rejoin CL to make my voice heard! Just join the Trust mate, only £5! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2014 21:34:30 GMT
So any mention of the Supp*****s Tr**t is banned and all discussion of what should be on the agenda when Katrien meets the Tr**t and G** at the end of the season will be deleted? OK, fair enough. But in my personal view, that is disfranchising members of ITTV when it comes to any discussion of who represents the fan base, how we should be represented and what message should be conveyed to the owner and to the board. I might even have to rejoin CL to make my voice heard! Just join the Trust mate, only £5! I am doing so - and it was the advocacy of rikofold that persuaded me. I have to tell you that he put up a far more persuasive case on behalf of the Tr**t than anything I've read or heard from those actually running it. (Decision to join also assisted by the arrogance of the G** 's blatant attempt to sideline the T***t and hijack the dialogue...) |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2014 1:41:02 GMT
The problem as I see it, as a relative newbie, is that some posters on this forum can't help themselves but post threads slagging CL, the Trust, G21, Chris Powell etc. It's forkin relentless and very very dull. It also means that if someone wants to post something constructive about any of those subjects they're shouted down in a hailstorm of the same old.
I welcome Reams's rules, push in the opposite direction for a while until there's something meaningful to discuss. Otherwise, chaps, you'll kill this forum - and there really is more to talk about than "Miiissss, CL was talking about this" or "Miiiisss, CL wasn't talking about that". ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2014 1:43:38 GMT
Just join the Trust mate, only £5! I am doing so - and it was the advocacy of rikofold that persuaded me. I have to tell you that he put up a far more persuasive case on behalf of the Tr**t than anything I've read or heard from those actually running it. (Decision to join also assisted by the arrogance of the G** 's blatant attempt to sideline the T***t and hijack the dialogue...) Well I'm pleased I'm good for something. ;-) I've taken the view that I wholeheartedly agree with its objectives and if I don't agree with everything the board says I should be part of the solution for making things better. Easier to influence from a supportive position than an antagonistic one perhaps, and we can afford a little leeway in their infancy. |
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Post by jonkool on Apr 3, 2014 7:32:01 GMT
Right so onwards and upwards boys and girls - so what shall we talk about?? :-)))
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2014 7:57:09 GMT
The problem as I see it, as a relative newbie, is that some posters on this forum can't help themselves but post threads slagging CL, the Trust, G21, Chris Powell etc. It's forkin relentless and very very dull. It also means that if someone wants to post something constructive about any of those subjects they're shouted down in a hailstorm of the same old. I welcome Reams's rules, push in the opposite direction for a while until there's something meaningful to discuss. Otherwise, chaps, you'll kill this forum - and there really is more to talk about than "Miiissss, CL was talking about this" or "Miiiisss, CL wasn't talking about that". ;-) Surely discussing Chris Powell is fair game, he was manager of the club FFS ! Agree about the rest of it although it cuts both ways with the other forum and with respect to Rik, he hasn't been on the end of it like some have. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2014 8:19:09 GMT
This is going well.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2014 9:07:14 GMT
Fair enough, and I welcome that, but lets give it a couple of weeks. I think I play by the rules you set on your forum and only post Trust related nonsense on the specific thread you started months ago in the "non-football" section of the site when you last decided to try and enforce some regulation. But it seems this sort of thing lasts as long as it takes for you to decide to slag off CL/CAST and then it's fair game again because you've decided not to play by the very rules you've imposed. Like I've said, lets see. I concur with the above. This sort of thread appears every couple of months, and things are okay for a few days, but after a game, the Dozen or so many people on this forum decide it's time to have a pop at comments on CL, or start a thread. EG: FAO: Joe Bloggs from G21/CL/CAST. Sadly people will not abide by the rules and it will be carte blanche within a few days. Maybe i could be wrong on this. I hope so for the sake of the future of this forum. If Reams jacks it in at the end of the season (an example, not saying he will), which one of you anti CL, G21 and CAST wants to take it over then? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2014 9:11:18 GMT
People are skipping posts and beginning to skip the forum all together so please acknowledge that we don't want that after all the hard work that has gone into making the forum what it is.An example of this from a recent new member on here as shown below (Nothing personal Dowman) Thanks WSS, ittv was a bit limited on breath of subject matter, now CL site owners have seen the error of their ways with regards the banner headings and realised we need to move on together I am happy to forgive them and move on ;-) Limited on the breath of subject matter? |
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Post by ralphmilnesgut on Apr 3, 2014 11:53:04 GMT
Well done Reams
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2014 12:45:43 GMT
Think we're confusing different issues here. Charlton L*** is one thing. But the T***t and the G** quite another. Yet somehow they've all got lumped in together as if they are one and the same.
Stop disccusing posts on another forum (CL***) - that is thoroughly sensible.
But banning mention of the T***t and the G** is a different matter entirely because it goes to the heart of the representation of the fan base and communication between supporters and the club.
Personlly I don't see how you can have a Charlton supporters on-line forum that is not allowed to mention or disuss the activities of the Charlton Supporters T***t. For example, if the T***t organises a survey or issues a statement or whatever it happens to be, in my view it should be reported on here. But I know nothing and it's not my forum!
In terms of getting behind the new owner, the new board and the new coach and applauding the way they have turned the season around in recent weeks, I think we can be proud that ITTV has led the way and has been overwhelmingly positive when others have prefered to carp and criticise.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2014 13:24:54 GMT
The problem as I see it, as a relative newbie, is that some posters on this forum can't help themselves but post threads slagging CL, the Trust, G21, Chris Powell etc. It's forkin relentless and very very dull. It also means that if someone wants to post something constructive about any of those subjects they're shouted down in a hailstorm of the same old. I welcome Reams's rules, push in the opposite direction for a while until there's something meaningful to discuss. Otherwise, chaps, you'll kill this forum - and there really is more to talk about than "Miiissss, CL was talking about this" or "Miiiisss, CL wasn't talking about that". ;-) Surely discussing Chris Powell is fair game, he was manager of the club FFS ! Agree about the rest of it although it cuts both ways with the other forum and with respect to Rik, he hasn't been on the end of it like some have. I've not given them a reason. ;-) I meant still discussing Chris Powell in the 'he wouldn't have done this, he would have done that' sense. Trust me, we get he wasn't this forum's favourite ever Charlton manager! As for forums, you're not getting 'ITTV are now saying this' every 15 minutes on CL. That's why I think Reams is right to try to steer this forum in another direction. There are some great posters on here, but too many people shouting them down and chasing them away for just having another view. |
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Post by bartramsboot on Apr 3, 2014 13:53:48 GMT
Parky was often compared with CP, the problem started when people started playing follow my leader with man love blinding the masses, as in people saying they would rather be relegated under CP than have another manager. If someone says something ridiculous on a forum it's natural that they will have the piss ripped out of them. If you ban talk of the trust on here then how can people's criticisms be noted by those that are involved, SE9, Rikofold etc. For all the stick SE9 gets, at least he still has a platform on here to share his love for the club with others, and also promote what he believes in. As someone that's not too interested in football (tennis man myself) I view this forum as quite adult and self policing, the jibes at CL apart. The main problem here is that ITTV has many banned ex CL people so it will take some time for this disenfranchised demographic to be watered down. Reams, if you make rules like this then this forum will be mirroring CL, and that it certainly isn't.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2014 14:06:11 GMT
SE9 doesn't get stick on here...he defends CAST, & is quite capable of fighting his corner. The site is better for him being on it. Ditto Ackers, Sadie Jane and Offit.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2014 15:57:16 GMT
Parky was often compared with CP, the problem started when people started playing follow my leader with man love blinding the masses, as in people saying they would rather be relegated under CP than have another manager. If someone says something ridiculous on a forum it's natural that they will have the piss ripped out of them. If you ban talk of the trust on here then how can people's criticisms be noted by those that are involved, SE9, Rikofold etc. For all the stick SE9 gets, at least he still has a platform on here to share his love for the club with others, and also promote what he believes in. As someone that's not too interested in football (tennis man myself) I view this forum as quite adult and self policing, the jibes at CL apart. The main problem here is that ITTV has many banned ex CL people so it will take some time for this disenfranchised demographic to be watered down. Reams, if you make rules like this then this forum will be mirroring CL, and that it certainly isn't. I'm a member of the Trust, nothing more. |
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Post by valley89 on Apr 3, 2014 16:57:02 GMT
I too am a member of the trust, weather I will be next year I'm not sure but for now anything that gives some kind of security to our stadium (at the time of joining I believed it was a good idea). If we were to start one I would move over to join ours of course
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