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Post by reamsofverse on Jun 23, 2008 20:35:43 GMT
It would really give me the ump if he got him to as I have mentioned Nick Carle's name a couple of times on here over the summer. If there's a possibility that he could leave Bristol City and we want to finally replace Andy Reid then he is the man. So sorry Mr Pardew im afraid to say that if Warnock pulls this one off it will be the coup of the summer in South London no matter who you sign. www.southlondon-today.co.uk/tn/Sport.cfm?id=9419 |
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Post by TheRevHansUpskirt on Jun 23, 2008 21:07:25 GMT
Can't believe you sometimes Paul.
So Palarse 'might' buy this guy and because YOU fancy him that makes him the scoop of the season and Pardew is deemed somehow by you to be at fault...YET AGAIN.
Oh fook me it's just started to rain here in Bromley...it's that fooker Pardews fault I tell ya!!
FFS Paul..... get a grip matey this has become farcical with you and Pards and it's been responsible for driving folk away from this board, can't you see that!
Like Erik Bloodaxe and his illogical denegration of Paddy Mac at every opportunity you are doing the self same thing with Pardew, you blame him for everything under the sun.
FOLK ARE QUITE SIMPLY FED UP WITH IT MATE, YOUR DOING YOURSELF AND THIS BOARD NO FAVOURS WHATSOEVER.
AND YES, I AM SHOUTING........ IN UTTER FRUSTRATION!!!!!
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Post by reamsofverse on Jun 23, 2008 22:24:44 GMT
Stu despite me despising Alan Pardew my post had nothing to do with him it was more to do with Palace lining up quality players and making no secret of it which is what I want to see from us.
I rate Nick Carle very highly as I also rate Paddy so whatever we all think of Warnock he know's a good player when he see's one it's as simple as that.
I make no secret of my dislike for Alan Pardew but my life does not revolve around him Stu believe me and if people want to stay away from the board because of my feelings towards him that is up to them but I won't be treading eggshells because of it why should I tip toe around when there is a man at the helm of our club who is thoroughly spoiling my 23 year association and enjoyment of it?.
I have never felt so distant from the club and that is his doing he has taken the connection to the club away from many people who voice there opinion of him by not reknewing season tickets etc etc. I can't go to games enough to make a difference in that department Stu so I use messageboards to do my talking but Im very very close to turning my back on the club whilst he is still in charge.
The original message was just a reminder to Pardew to start getting his finger out regarding new players, he's a country mile behind Warnock as it is as far as being a good manager goes and this Carle interest just adds more weight to it.
Finally I can't see a Charlton forum anywhere that has a majority support for the man yet nobody else gets criticised for airing their views.
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Post by cityaddick on Jun 24, 2008 8:25:22 GMT
Reams, the Rev does have a slight point, when Pards joined he was seen as god send by most, he joined at the wrong time, Reid and bent were injured, but still he grounded out some results which gave us all hope. What is the bloke supposed to do, he can only spend what is given, he can then only take what is available, so please tell me what he is supposed to do? I wonder what might have been had pards taken over from curbs? If he had the money Dowie blew? Had he had the team from day one? Answer me this, if Pards is so bad then who? What manager would come to us? Be careful for what you wish for, it could bite you in the arse!  |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jun 24, 2008 8:43:52 GMT
You are absolutely right cityaddick the Rev does have a point as does anybody who posts, I am not disagreeing with them they are entitled to their opinion as we all are.
Everything I say always seems to be deemed as set in stone though where as they are merely my thoughts and my thoughts only I have to stress that.
I am sure if Pardew had taken over form Curbishley it would have been a different story but unfortunately he didn't therefore he knew what he was coming in to. He has had as much money as Dowie but failed to change the direction of the club therefore the slippery slope that Dowie put us on, Pardew has continued as last season was the most disjointed that I can remember.
All that is in the past now and a new season will soon be upon us so let's wait and see what happens but all I will say is 3 or 4 signings have to be made pretty soon as we are weaker now than we were last season and that IS down to Pardew, he is the manager and is paid o assemble a promotion challenging squad.
Regarding a new manager, it's not going to happen but if given a choice for me it would have to be Ince or Gary Johnson as not only are they quality managers they are characters as well with a passion for football and succeeding, they would also open doors for us in the transfer market as both would have brought players from MK Dons and Bristol City with them who are I have to say better than ours.
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Post by bigears on Jun 24, 2008 9:38:15 GMT
It would really give me the ump if he got him to as I have mentioned Nick Carle's name a couple of times on here over the summer. If there's a possibility that he could leave Bristol City and we want to finally replace Andy Reid then he is the man. So sorry Mr Pardew im afraid to say that if Warnock pulls this one off it will be the coup of the summer in South London no matter who you sign. www.southlondon-today.co.uk/tn/Sport.cfm?id=9419A really quite ridiculous statement. Firstly, you mention a player so we have to rush out and buy him. Why ? There is more into buying a player than his on field performances. We don't know what he is like as a person, on the training ground, around the Club etc and, despite his shortcomings, I'd rather trust Pards to sign the right players than you. Secondly, the coup of the Summer in South London whoever Pards buy's ? So if Pards suddenly signs Hollihan for 300k will Carne still be a bigger coup ? Get real. Let's wait and see who we sign before we start slagging Pards off. And I suppose Brian Howard wouldn't be good enough for you either. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jun 24, 2008 9:53:17 GMT
So every player that has ever played for us have been model pro's have they? I don't think so, Danny Mills in the latter stages of his loan deal wasn't exactly Mr nice guy.
To be honest I couldn't give a monkey's what players do off the pitch, I won't see it but I will see what they do in a red shirt and that is what I will be paying my money for.
Are you saying that if Newcastle offerred us Joey Barton you would turn your nose up?
My feelings towards Pards are not only based on who he signs by the way, he could sign the Russian national squad yet that wouldn't excuse last season in my book.
As for Hoolahan nobody wants us to sign him more than I do but I rate Carle just the same and he is the box to box player in central midfield that we are looking for but I suspect we will end up with somebody like Gravesen who's legs have gone and would cost next to nothing.
As for Howard, I think that he is over hyped, if you take Barnsley's cup run out of the equation he wouldn't have been noticed so much and for £4m which is what Ive seen banded about, there are much better players out there.
Finally where have I said above that we should rush out and buy him. All I have said is if he is available then that is the type of player we should be looking at as I see attributes in his game that are similar to that of Andy Reid's. It is a supporters perspective nothing more than that, we are allowed to voice them.
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Post by CharltonDan on Jun 24, 2008 10:05:44 GMT
Paul - Without this sounding like "lets all gang up on Reams day" you do managed to link everything you're disappointed with, with some sort of decision, or indecision, by Pards.
Mate. You need to get over this obsession with AP. He's our Manager (for the long-haul or next few months) and constantly slagging him off, be it directly or indirectly, is, as Stu says, driving people away from here. You need to distance yourself otherwise this will just end up as a soapbox for people to slag Pards off on and that is dull.
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Post by bigears on Jun 24, 2008 10:08:21 GMT
Whilst I don't expect players to act like saints I do feel that you can expect a certain behaviour from them off the pitch and yes I would definately draw the line at Barton as it reflects badly on the Club and especially a family Club like ours. I rate Hoolihan over Carle as in the games against us last season Carle was anonymous whilst I came away from The Valley drooling over Hoolihan. From the play-off games Carle was okay but nothing more than that. As for Howard he won't go for 4m and seeing as he scored about 18 goals from midfield last season and is a decent box to box player then I for one would be very happy if we managed to sign him. Finally, how do you know that Pards isn't looking at Carle anyway?
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Post by reamsofverse on Jun 24, 2008 10:29:28 GMT
Bigears I haven't said that Pardew is not looking at him have I.
My opening thread was one which was more of a case that I was cheesed off that Palace are chasing him because they seem to be on routeto assembling a side to challenge for promotion again this season and Id really prefer not to be chasing after them again next time around.
You cannot compare Hollahan and Carle just on the two games you saw but in saying that you saw the games I didn't so I respect what you are saying.
Bristol did get more sky coverage than Blackpool last year mind and when they played I always made sure I tuned in to see my mate Lee Trundle but he only featured prominently towards the end of the season so it was always, McCombe, Carle, McIndoe and Carey that caught my eye.
The geezer who took it totally though was Gary Johnson the manager. Every time he was interviewed he would always say that they are just enjoying their football and should,nt really be where they are but it was down to team ethic. They stayed the duration because of their team ethic and the fact that they believed in themselves and almost went all the way. They were relegation fodder before the campaign but proved everybody wrong and good on them.
My point is, is that we shouldn't have found ourselves in that division either but unlike Bristol we had an arrogance about us and thought all we had to do was splash the cash to get us out of it.
This year my belief is that we should get who we want in asap then Pardew should number his best side 1 to 11 and stick with it when possible. Any player who is in the side with let's say number 16 on his back would then know that he isn't a first choice player by looking around at the other numbers around him and he should therefore be inspired to work his balls off to make sure that he is in for the next game too.
It is a phsycological thing I know but what is the harm in it?
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Post by reamsofverse on Jun 24, 2008 10:35:20 GMT
I find it rather sad Dan that people would opt to stay away because somebody speaks his mind, I find that rather fickle.
It is not a public campaign against Pardew, let's get that straight but he is our manager and answerable to everything that is wrong with Charlton Athletic at the moment.
At least I say what I want to say and move on, I will be there at the first game it will take more than him to keep me away but like I said many people won't be because of him and surely that is far more serious than somebody having a moan about him on a forum.
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Post by bigears on Jun 24, 2008 11:32:23 GMT
You said 'My opening thread was one which was more of a case that I was cheesed off that Palace are chasing him because they seem to be on routeto assembling a side to challenge for promotion again this season and Id really prefer not to be chasing after them again next time around.'
And isn't this the case because Palace do all their business through the media whether that is Carle or Yeates or whoever just so that they can appear to their fans to be active whereas we don't and the only time we talk is when the deal is done. I prefer it that way. We may get frustrated because it appears nothing is happening but it is.
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Post by CharltonDan on Jun 24, 2008 12:28:24 GMT
It is not a public campaign against Pardew.........but he is our manager and answerable to everything that is wrong with Charlton Athletic at the moment. This statement is just silly, but sums up what everyone else is saying mate. At least I say what I want to say and move on But you don't move on Paul, as the previous statement highlights. You blame him for everything that's wrong with Charlton Athletic at the moment. Which is at best highly illogical |
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Post by cityaddick on Jun 24, 2008 12:48:10 GMT
Reams, how can you say that AP is answerable to everything that is wrong with Charlton?
How can you say AP has had the same amount of money as Dowie?
How can you say that Ince would bring players in from MK Dons?
I sit and read this board everyday, I don't comment often as I do speak my mind and over the years my opinion really does differ by a long mile from others. I sometimes put that down to having played at a high standard, doing coaching badges and basically seeing things from a football point of view rather than a passionate supporter, to clarify I'm also passionate about my club.
AP can only be accountable for what has gone on while in charge. Since taking over, almost the entire team bar Ambrose, Thomas ZZ & Holland has left, the better ones by choice. I say by choice because they was all under contract and could have turned round and said 'No, I'm staying to play for CAFC'
What sort of season would we have had last year had Young, Bent, Reid and Diawarra to name a couple stayed. Lets face it, even Romm would have torn most teams apart last season.
But hey, they all went for decent money, and how much did AP get? Not a lot, big chris was free as was weaver, Varney was bought as was the MK Don superstar Mcloud. I wonder how maney more of them Ince would bring him!
I'm sorry mate, but to blame AP is wrong. He can only buy what the board allow him, and they are pulling the purse strings in, so we are left with the bargain basement, trying to dig up a gem, and then we'll moan when that gem get's auctioned off, as I dare say will happen with the kid Shelvy.
All this goes back to Curbs/Dowie and will take years to recover fully so unless AP takes us down this season please lay off him a bit, every last one of us on here is frustrated and fed up and reading anti AP threads day after day does not help.
Sorry, you do a grand job on here but please try and be positive and start creating some fill good factor as all this negativity just multiplies up and creates a bad atmosphere.
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Post by TheRevHansUpskirt on Jun 24, 2008 12:58:48 GMT
Hear hear....and also a little less 'hero worship' of Warnock wouldn't go amiss.
I don't give a rats arse about him or who he's planning to sign, unless it happens to be a Charlton player!
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Post by IH8Pardeew on Jun 24, 2008 15:39:36 GMT
Get rid. Pardew's a complete waste of space. I sit firmly on Reams side of the fence.
It's like Reams can read my mind. Pardew has wasted millions since he come on board on what?? Does he not read this board, Reams has given him loads of tips on who to sign. I can't believe he's not signed any of them.
With Reams inside knowledge of the game he should have him as his chief advisor. Actually no. Sack Pards and bring in the dream team.....
... Warnock and Reams....
All true Charlton supportters will see this is for the long term benefit of the club. No more short termism please.
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Post by CharltonDan on Jun 24, 2008 15:49:23 GMT
Get rid. Pardew's a complete waste of space. I sit firmly on Reams side of the fence. It's like Reams can read my mind. Pardew has wasted millions since he come on board on what?? Does he not read this board, Reams has given him loads of tips on who to sign. I can't believe he's not signed any of them. With Reams inside knowledge of the game he should have him as his chief advisor. Actually no. Sack Pards and bring in the dream team..... ... Warnock and Reams.... All true Charlton supportters will see this is for the long term benefit of the club. No more short termism please. And you were doing so well until you tried to spell Pardew  |
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Post by Ih8pardew on Jun 24, 2008 15:51:26 GMT
LOL... knew someone would point that out. And would have put money on you pointing it out. Simple slip of the keyboard. Warnock and Reams... DREAM TEAM  |
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Post by I8PARDEW2 on Jun 24, 2008 16:30:56 GMT
Warnock and Reams... DREAM TEAM I hear Eddie May is available aswell, and i'm sure we'd need someone to put the cones out for training. What a team those 3 would be )) |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jun 24, 2008 17:57:19 GMT
Whoooooooooosh!! Did something just fly over the top of my head or was it Steve Goldby in a skirt with wings on. It might even be Charlie Hill or is it Watt's ;D Your site's flagging me old matey club's editors disappearing left right and centre probably found you out like we all did  As for him being available, sadly not he's been scouting for Cardiff and believe it or not Swansea City last season and will be doing the same this I believe, should be intersesting the first game just hope he doesn't try to tap me up because there won't be much to tell ;D |
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Post by swordfish on Jun 24, 2008 19:00:47 GMT
The only one dreaming of Warnock is Simon Jordan. Still, now they're sharing the same bed, they'll certainly make an easier target. Any freelance hitmen available?  |
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Post by leftbehind on Jun 24, 2008 22:12:02 GMT
im free
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Post by swordfish on Jun 25, 2008 3:32:38 GMT
Excellent! But tell me - did you attend the John Inman school of assassination? |
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Post by CharltonDan on Jun 25, 2008 11:01:01 GMT
LOL... knew someone would point that out. And would have put money on you pointing it out. Simple slip of the keyboard. Warnock and Reams... DREAM TEAM Next time you come on a wind up try not making it quite so obvious. Silly boy  |
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Post by ih8pardew on Jun 25, 2008 16:47:26 GMT
Silly boy... lol... get over yourself son.
I'm sure there's a thread on CL about you winding up the Palarse.
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Post by CharltonDan on Jun 25, 2008 16:54:41 GMT
Silly boy... lol... get over yourself son. I'm sure there's a thread on CL about you winding up the Palarse. NERD NIGEL STALKER ALERT |
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Post by ih8pardew on Jun 25, 2008 17:04:41 GMT
Afraid not mate. Charlton through and through.
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Post by CharltonDan on Jun 26, 2008 12:54:32 GMT
Afraid not mate. Charlton through and through. Even sadder in that case. Still simple minds and all that.... |
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Post by TheRevHansUpskirt on Jun 26, 2008 13:51:21 GMT
Afraid not mate. Charlton through and through. Errr you may well be Charlton but to describe yourself as 'through and through' is a fooking laugh! |
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Post by Pardewsgr8 on Jun 26, 2008 16:29:57 GMT
How's that a 'fookin laff' appy? What would you describe as through and through? I'm as through and through as most people on this or any other board. SimpleDan - wind your neck in mate. Everyone know's you love a wind up and can't help yourself. Not interested in playing your games sunshine. Go and play with your Palace and Millwall friends.  |
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