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Post by reddyfreddy on Oct 16, 2009 8:23:16 GMT
Why CL Posters Are Tossers! I posted a response a considered response late yesterday. Hey presto this morning you've deleted the entire thread. Now the reasons are let me guess because you don't wish to be seen "upsetting" the more influential CL board administrators is it? What namby-pamby reason are you gonna give this time round for deleting yet another thread? So you can have another drink in the cons club with Hayes and chat about all things " CAFC internet forums" like a bunch of geeks or what's the reason cos it better be worthwhile!! Why shouldn't you be allowed on this board to raise the point as to why they don't post anything about an open meeting with Lennie? This I claim being due to their own absorbed self indulgent arrogance and yet to squarely point this out at the knobheads and the main procrastinator being Hayes in my view, I could be wrong, so what, but it's upto him to deny it, and as organiser explain, you seemingly don't feel that should be mentioned on this forum. His arrogant attitude stinks which was seen by his dismissive inarticulate response. Well mate, I've just mentioned it again so delete this as well and I'll just carry on referring to the subject. So have your pre-match drinks with them and lose your integrity here mate! IMO you have done it for your own gain not the good of the board...pure and simple. You don't want to upset the knobs at CL, simple as that! Stand-up Paul and be proud of what you have here don't worry about them! Print and be damned!!! This forum is about all things CAFC (well most of the time) and we ain't always gonna argue the toss about 4-5-1 or 4-4-2 or who should be dropped etc., etc., like you perhaps would dream of Reamsy...hence the so few posters of threads you are getting which is a point you have made in last 24hrs. So having said before when you deleted a thread of mine and apologised afterwards to optimist that you'd only delete threads for racism, libel etc., then please explain this deletion because me ol' mate you knew I'd be on your case about it this morning. |
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Post by DFT on Oct 16, 2009 8:44:31 GMT
I'm reluctant to support reddyfreddy after his absurd comments about the free tickets for the troops at Ibrox but I will.
The reason I and surely most of us are on this board is that we have the freedom to post things that would be deleted on CL and that we don't have to put up with the left wing, PC crap and the happy clappy, wanker type drivel that is spouted on CL.
If, as reddyfreddy says he didn't break the rules re: racism, libel etc then his thread should have remained
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Post by reddyfreddy on Oct 16, 2009 8:50:02 GMT
I'm reluctant to support reddyfreddy after his absurd comments about the free tickets for the troops at Ibrox but I will. The reason I and surely most of us are on this board is that we have the freedom to post things that would be deleted on CL and that we don't have to put up with the left wing, PC crap and the happy clappy, wanker type drivel that is spouted on CL. If, as reddyfreddy says he didn't break the rules re: racism, libel etc then his thread should have remained DFT we don't have to agree on everything do we?? Whether my comments are absurd or not re your post elsewhere surely adds to the point of having a forum. So your support on my point here is a good example of the integrity of the posters of this board. Well done mate! |
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Post by optimist on Oct 16, 2009 9:04:35 GMT
Oh No! Not deleting threads again….
I read Reddy’s reply last night, and didn’t see any problems with it.. He made a number of valid points…Why shouldn’t he be allowed to do so??? Loads of ’Addicks out there thinking exactly the same things, with what he said!
Henry Irving’s response of…”Be there” “Arrange your own meeting” was nonsense, and showed no respect for those that can‘t make these events… There are a multitude of reasons!
A response from dear old Oggy towards the end of the original CL thread highlights just one… “I keep reading it was an excellent night. Can someone help a brother out ...... or those exiled a million miles away, and tease us with some juicy titbits and highlights of the meeting, please ..... ? “
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Post by reamsofverse on Oct 16, 2009 9:06:57 GMT
reddyfreddy the thread was not pulled because of it's title or the comments about CL, I could not care less about other CAFC forums you know that, but what I just cannot have is a thread that started innocently and had nothing wrong with it at all descending into the Gary Glitter nonsense that it did, there is no place for it on here.
I let a hell of alot go as I have said before on here but some things have to go as they are derogatory towards the site an it's members. How it switched from CL to Gary Glitter is beyond me and it would have just gone on and on and on so it was best to stop it before it did.
Those involved are also members of CL but I never see their disputes on there so I deem that as taking advantage of my turning a blind eye nature which is disappointing and it leads to other members becoming frustrated because a thread they have started has got deleted as it has on this occasion so apologies to you reddyfreddy.
I am proud of what I have mate and that is why nobody is going to spoil it not only for me but for people like yourself and all the other loyal members that we have.
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Post by optimist on Oct 16, 2009 9:14:58 GMT
I'm reluctant to support reddyfreddy after his absurd comments about the free tickets for the troops at Ibrox but I will. The reason I and surely most of us are on this board is that we have the freedom to post things that would be deleted on CL and that we don't have to put up with the left wing, PC crap and the happy clappy, wanker type drivel that is spouted on CL. If, as reddyfreddy says he didn't break the rules re: racism, libel etc then his thread should have remained DFT... Well said mate! Reams, Will you please stop deleting posts.... It spoils it for me! If this forum which allows so much other drivel, at times, can’t keep an honest post open, what’s the point of the forum? If we all wanted CL, or to be like CL, we would be here in the first place…. |
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Post by reddyfreddy on Oct 16, 2009 9:28:28 GMT
I saw ONE POST from Gav referring to leftbehind about a gary glitter tribute band prior to my post last night...that was it ONE POST. I thought that was pretty innocuous even mildly amusing.
What are you referring to about descending into ALL this gary glitter nonsense...it was just the one post unless it kicked off very very late last night!! Anyway you can delete a post within a thread...just go to "delete" and click.
Optimist or anyone else - did you see anything about the pervert glitter last night?? Anyone offended?
C'mon Reams wriggle! wriggle! wriggle!
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Post by leftbehind on Oct 16, 2009 9:32:19 GMT
no deleted thread just told someone im trying to recruit that never happens LOL
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Post by reamsofverse on Oct 16, 2009 9:36:42 GMT
optimist I do not delete threads for the sake of it, when I do there is very good reason, Gary Glitter is one of them. People should realise that there are rules, I have rules that I have to adhere to if I don't the first I will know about it is logging on here one day and the board has gone........... All the hard work down the rain because of A, B, or C being unable to bide by the rules. Below is the list of rules that I have to follow, I suggest we all do the same, please pay attention to rule 8. www.proboards.com/tos.html |
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Post by leftbehind on Oct 16, 2009 9:39:01 GMT
Anyway dont worry about teh Glitter one ill smash Gav's skull in when i see him next
Or to upset him take his Magners away for being anaughty boy
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Post by gav on Oct 16, 2009 9:57:00 GMT
on CL it apears that you do have to agree with the posts because if you dare disagree or outrageously mention Rangers it will be deleted
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Post by optimist on Oct 16, 2009 10:01:04 GMT
One comment directed at LB, which was so silly, I'm sure he laughed it off!  Reams, You could have just edited that If you thought it was so bad! But one juvenile comment can hardly be described as descending into “Gary Glitter nonsense“.. What's section 8 got to do with that! No point in guessing how the thread would have panned out, once it‘s been deleted… |
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Post by optimist on Oct 16, 2009 10:06:32 GMT
on CL it apears that you do have to agree with the posts because if you dare disagree or outrageously mention Rangers it will be deleted CL says nothing to me about my (Charlton) Life... Oh No! I've quoted Morrissey.... This is going to decend into.............  |
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Post by reamsofverse on Oct 16, 2009 10:08:16 GMT
I think it's safe to say that once that scums name had been mentioned the thread had deteriorated to a point of no return.
I regret the If it is any consolation I do regret not just deleting the threads that concerned me.
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Post by reddyfreddy on Oct 16, 2009 11:19:19 GMT
Anyway dont worry about teh Glitter one ill smash Gav's skull in when i see him next Or to upset him take his Magners away for being anaughty boy Oh bloody well done leftbehind. Now threats of violence will get this thread deleted!!  Troublemaker you are sunshine!  |
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Post by reamsofverse on Oct 16, 2009 11:20:53 GMT
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Post by leftbehind on Oct 16, 2009 11:41:41 GMT
One comment directed at LB, which was so silly, I'm sure he laughed it off! Reams, You could have just edited that If you thought it was so bad! But one juvenile comment can hardly be described as descending into “Gary Glitter nonsense“.. What's section 8 got to do with that! No point in guessing how the thread would have panned out, once it‘s been deleted… It would not have panned out as Gav would have had his hands cut off so could no longer type ;D |
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Post by reddyfreddy on Oct 16, 2009 11:46:22 GMT
I think it's safe to say that once that scums name had been mentioned the thread had deteriorated to a point of no return. I regret the If it is any consolation I do regret not just deleting the threads that concerned me. Not sure I understand what you're trying to say there. But I want to know in answer to my previous post, why you did not just delete the relevant "offensive" posts (1) instead of the entire thread?  ?? It appears there was just the one comment and you cannot justify it Paul, simple as that. The mention of Gary Glitter and an assumption on your part that an infantile remark could lead to an outbreak of unmerited perverted posts is ludicrous. It's your attempt to deny the continuation of a discussion that you felt was not in YOUR interests imo. Admit it and stop hiding behind this ridiculous facade that the sheer mention of two words "Gary Glitter" is sufficient justification to delete a thread. It ain't and nobody is ever in a million years going to agree with you. Second time this has happened and I am disappointed but at same time bollox...it's your loss at the end of the day! Enjoy your pint with your mates at CL when you're discussing forum politics and policies. Gary Glitter there are a lot worse than him around...people who kill and maim kids. He's a cuuunt but worse are in the news all the time!! |
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Post by reamsofverse on Oct 16, 2009 12:19:57 GMT
And where is the loss exactly? I don't make a penny out of the site and at the moment it's the quietest it's ever been, maybe people are just as fed up as me with all the slagging off that goes on on here.
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Post by leftbehind on Oct 16, 2009 13:45:57 GMT
Anyway dont worry about teh Glitter one ill smash Gav's skull in when i see him next Or to upset him take his Magners away for being anaughty boy Oh bloody well done leftbehind. Now threats of violence will get this thread deleted!! Troublemaker you are sunshine! LOL dont worry its only Gav |
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Post by reddyfreddy on Oct 16, 2009 14:05:03 GMT
And where is the loss exactly? I don't make a penny out of the site and at the moment it's the quietest it's ever been, maybe people are just as fed up as me with all the slagging off that goes on on here. loss as in people's perception of you re your integrity, reputation, values etc...the intangibles! These should not be sullied and yet you are risking these so cheaply over the deletion of a thread you cocked-up on but won't admit to! This indicates immaturity and someone who is not reliable whereas someone who admits it shows strength of character. The fact he's a fookin' idiot is another matter! Anyway your own integrity will now, in full glare of everybody on this site, decide if you wish to be upfront or whether you wish to think you're clever and we're all stupid...because that's what you're asking of us with the ridiculous GG excuse for deleting the thread. Sorry Reams but you have on this occasion fucked-up. Don't delete threads. Within a thread delete posts with an explanation as to why but you are out of order big style here!! |
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Post by reddyfreddy on Oct 16, 2009 14:12:02 GMT
Oh bloody well done leftbehind. Now threats of violence will get this thread deleted!! Troublemaker you are sunshine! LOL dont worry its only Gav You do realise that all this hassle is down to you and Gav??? For you to be a bit cocky with someone I can only imagine that Gav is a youngster that has serious physical and mental impairments although that is not reflected in his posts...unlike yours!  |
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Post by reamsofverse on Oct 16, 2009 14:36:15 GMT
reddyfreddy please don't judge me like you know me, I moderate the site not you so get over it.
Makes me laugh how people can come out with i'm this and i'm that yet not once have the likes of yourself taken me up on an offer of a pre-match pint to find out just what i'm really like.
The thread which got deleted did so because of the reasons given, however even before they appeared on the thread there were people showing a dislike to so called Charlton fans falling out like hongkongaddick for example, then henry irving said his piece in defence of himself.
Yout thread was aimed at him being a tosser for not commenting on the q&a evening with Lawrence and Minto, since when has he had a responsibility too?? Why did you not just post a thread asking anybody on here if they went to it and if so what happened?............Instead you attempted to find out by berating people which is up to you but the comments in reply from the named above were correct, you were bringing this site into disrepute when it was only you who had the problem with henry.
You can be as outspoken as you want to be my old friend but I suggest that you get to know me before judging my character.
OK I could have just deleted the GG threads but to the outsider looking in the text that would have remained still would have come across as abuse of a member of INTOTHEVALLEY and as a moderator I am informing you that it was a breach of the rules that will not be tolerated.
Matter closed.
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Post by reddyfreddy on Oct 17, 2009 8:29:49 GMT
Matter closed??? Why, because you as moderator are on the back-foot here? Don't start that attitude mate when you're already on shaky ground. Now you admit you could have deleted the GARY GLITTER posts. Right Now you say the reason for deleting the thread wasn't really the GG issue, it was ABUSE of you friend and drinking buddy HenryIrving aka Ben Hayes of CL infamy? zzzzz Ooooh don't hurt my fwend Ben he's gonna cwy. In this one post you're accusing me of berating HenryIrving...too right I am!! He was the organiser of the meeting so my angst is obviously aimed at him (or should I aim it at Gary Glitter?). Now don't take more than one brain cell to fathom that reasoning out does it...hence how I reached the conclusion! Your suggestion that I should have come on here and asked if any other people went and had any news to report, would have been a totally different slant on the point that I was initially raising. It's not the same issue at all is it? Why suggest it? The organiser of that meeting Ben Hayes has the medium of CL board to relay to it's own salivating wider audience what Lennie said...fookin' simple!!!!! No issue job done ete etc Why do you Reams want to defend him/them?? It's really starting to grate with me now. Even on the CL board they are asking. HenryIrving has the temerity to come on to this board and say as optimist also pointed out that people should could "be there" "organise your own meeting" with utter contempt which you utterly fail to recognise. But you Reams in a VANITY effort to show to your CL mates, that you have the power to do so, fall over yourself in your haste to then delete without any real forethought, the entire thread. Now you are saying it was abuse OF A FELLOW MEMBER!!! You are talking absolutely out of your arse!! You have clearly stated yourself in your own post further up this very thread (if everyone including yourself cares to look) that you had no problems with the comments in fact " had nothing wrong with it at all" were your exact words there was no additional direct reference to HenryIrving apart from my 2nd post which was far more mild and it was the GG reference that was the reason for the deletion (which you now say wasn't the reason at all)! I was talking about a member of another board but really that board in general but who then after my post, he for the first time that I can recall he posted on here... "in his defence" as you say Yeah right...where is he the other 364 days of the year Reamsy? You are using this as the excuse you fooked up! Why give him preference over all the other REGULARS that had posted there. You blew it!!! You then say other people like Hongkongaddick had joined in...they had all read the posts in the previous thread, don't you get it? Not a very good picture in your favour Reams so far is it? What is it clouding your thought process Reams on this issue, because I am pretty sure that you're standing very much alone with the whole attitude/opinion you have and it's not going down well. Well actually I've previously surmised where your priorities are and you've made an error of judgment as for example you now admit you could easily have deleted the GG POSTS and now the thread is all about ABUSE OF ANOTHER MEMBER. As for saying "matter closed". I strongly suggest you don't say that again in an attempt to show that you have THE power here!! Threads will close naturally not when the moderator says so!!!!!!!!!!! Jeeez!! You have succeeded in taking away the topic of the original thread to something that you shouldn't have interfered with. You haven't done yourself any favours with this Reams. You have dug a hole that's continuing to get deeper. Abuse...yeah right! Matter closed...wow!! Let's see if this thread is closed or not because the members decide...don't they? Other than that....Good Morning all and especially to you Reams ps As for judging your character!....job done! Don't need a face-2-face having employed people all my life! |
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Post by DFT on Oct 17, 2009 8:43:08 GMT
I'm reluctant to support reddyfreddy after his absurd comments about the free tickets for the troops at Ibrox but I will. The reason I and surely most of us are on this board is that we have the freedom to post things that would be deleted on CL and that we don't have to put up with the left wing, PC crap and the happy clappy, wanker type drivel that is spouted on CL. If, as reddyfreddy says he didn't break the rules re: racism, libel etc then his thread should have remained DFT we don't have to agree on everything do we?? Whether my comments are absurd or not re your post elsewhere surely adds to the point of having a forum. So your support on my point here is a good example of the integrity of the posters of this board. Well done mate! Yes, of course. It is the very reason for this forum. |
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Post by optimist on Oct 19, 2009 9:14:11 GMT
What I just cannot have is a thread that started innocently and had nothing wrong with it at all descending into the Gary Glitter nonsense.... The thread which got deleted did so because of the reasons given, however even before they appeared on the thread there were people showing a dislike to so called Charlton fans falling out like hongkongaddick for example, then henry irving said his piece in defence of himself. Your thread was aimed at him being a tosser for not commenting on the q&a evening with Lawrence and Minto, since when has he had a responsibility too?? Why did you not just post a thread asking anybody on here if they went to it and if so what happened ?............Instead you attempted to find out by berating people which is up to you but you were bringing this site into disrepute when it was only you who had the problem with henry. I think it's safe to say that once that scums (GG) name had been mentioned the thread had deteriorated to a point of no return. If it is any consolation I do regret not just deleting the threads that concerned me. (Presume you meant post? As you deleted the thread)So you now saying the initial reason you gave me, about deleting the thread was not entirely true? All I can see is your contradictions, in this thread… You did it with me before, with the last deleted thread… Why can’t you just be honest with the reasons you give? …. No need to bring up an excuse about an innocuous GG remark being the reason then change your reasoning in a later post… It’s nonsense you bringing up section this that & the other regarding the deleted threads, because that simply wasn’t your reasoning either… The threads you deleted could have stayed, causing you no legal worries…. Some of the stuff you’ve written yourself has had more venom & bad taste then either of those deleted threads? You told me recently “this was not YOUR forum, but OUR forum“… If that’s the case, and when there is no libel stuff to worry about, why should you decide when the "matter is closed" ?? |
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Post by reamsofverse on Oct 19, 2009 11:38:10 GMT
Right let's get this straight once and for all when you all joined the forum you agreed to bide by the rules which I will remind you of when I get home from work.
As for all the who I am to do this and who am I to do that, Im the administrator the person who also agreed to abide by the rules of proboards.
However firstly I am a supporter a postion I would much rather enjoy than the admin role but unfortunately my admin duties have to be called upon and the deleted thread was one of them.
One or two people on here have a hidden agenda, an alterior motive and I believe that it is to run this site into the ground.
It aint going to happen, simple as that, those who do want an explanation to why a thread is deleted, feel free to contact me in a private e-mail and I will be happy to give my reasons. Some might enjoy a dispute or two in public some may even thrive on it but I certainly don’t because I have said before I will not willing for this forum to be pulled to pieces by those who have an agenda with me.
When I do have to put my admin hat on this site is no different to any other where the administrator’s decision is final, sorry guy’s but it’s just the way it is.
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Post by leftbehind on Oct 19, 2009 19:55:47 GMT
kin hell been away 4 days and this is still going
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Post by reddyfreddy on Oct 20, 2009 11:46:11 GMT
Right let's get this straight once and for all when you all joined the forum you agreed to bide by the rules which I will remind you of when I get home from work. As for all the who I am to do this and who am I to do that, I'm the administrator the person who also agreed to abide by the rules of proboards. However firstly I am a supporter a position I would much rather enjoy than the admin role but unfortunately my admin duties have to be called upon and the deleted thread was one of them. One or two people on here have a hidden agenda, an alterior motive and I believe that it is to run this site into the ground. It aint going to happen, simple as that, those who do want an explanation to why a thread is deleted, feel free to contact me in a private e-mail and I will be happy to give my reasons. Some might enjoy a dispute or two in public some may even thrive on it but I certainly don’t because I have said before I will not willing for this forum to be pulled to pieces by those who have an agenda with me. When I do have to put my admin hat on this site is no different to any other where the administrator’s decision is final, sorry guy’s but it’s just the way it is. Reams, I actually wasn't going to bother with this topic any more until I read your reply and in particular the following comment "One or two people on here have a hidden agenda, an alterior motive and I believe that it is to run this site into the ground" That is absurd and a kop-out!! Name them or ban them! Although I have an inkling that you might be referring to moi and possibly optimist...n'est pas? Provide evidence. Where is it? Yep, yet another load of rubbish eh Reams!! FFS if I knew someone was trying to destroy something that I have built-up and is a "a major part of my life" (as you have stated elsewhere this site is) I wouldn't foockin tolerate it!! So come on you have said it so spill the beans! You are dealing with people with some intelligence who don't want to be fobbed-off with crap that's the problem you're faced with. This has nothing to do with you being the Administrator or personal or whatever. It's you being erratic and deleting threads, unjustifiably in my eyes and those of other contributors and general forum members. So before you start emails with "Right let's get this straight once and for all" in a dismissive superior tone at least have the courtesy to have answered the original points. It is wrong for you - to now throw out blind accusations of people are wanting to destroy this forum - just because you're not willing to simply accept you not only had no grounds to delete the thread - you went on to make contradictory excuses as to why you did - and was frankly deluded to state "this matter is closed" Why do you suggest to have private emails on this subject that is topical and needs answers from you as Administrator for the actions erroneously carried-out by you and the woeful explanations since? If this is causing you embarrassment Reams it's of you're own doing because you refuse to admit to your errors and provide simple explanations instead of continual bullshit!! You commented "some may even thrive on it" by posting on this thread instead of sending private emails. Hold on a mo...do you want a forum for discussion or don't you??? Don't think you're being clever either, by trying to imply by this comment that continuing to post is therefore "egotistical" in some way, because they "thrive on it", and that this will therefore discourage those people posting or be seen by others viewing those posters in such light. To run-down this site, certainly not me. I've not seen it in anyone else. I think with your attitude as displayed in this thread you're quite capable of doing that yourself imo!! As I said I wasn't intending any further posts because I'm tired of your attitude but having seen your response to optimists's post, I'm afraid I was compelled to respond. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Oct 20, 2009 13:36:57 GMT
Just can't leave it alone can you? If you aren't one of the people I refer to then there's no need to worry is there me old china!!
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