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Post by sussex on Nov 23, 2024 18:53:16 GMT
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Post by AndyB on Nov 23, 2024 19:11:04 GMT
This season is effectively over as we drift down the table. After the great performance against Birmingham I was quite optimistic but that optimism has been blown away since. We’ve got to get a result on Tuesday- Burton are bottom on 8 points. They’ve lost 9 games and conceded 28 goals. we always seem to help these teams out so don’t bank on it ! |
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Post by eric on Nov 23, 2024 19:24:14 GMT
Unlucky today not to get at least a point . Can we play with 10 every week as Docherty is dogshit and should be stripped of the captaincy . Leaburn ran himself into the ground and unlucky not to score . Defence played well .
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Post by newyorkaddick on Nov 23, 2024 19:57:57 GMT
Didn't watch the game but have just seen the 'highlights'....the red card was ridiculous, didn't even remotely meet the threshold for using excessive force where "excessive force is when a player exceeds the necessary use of force and/or endangers the safety of an opponent". Clearly a mere reckless challenge and thus a yellow only.
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Post by revilo on Nov 23, 2024 20:04:58 GMT
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Post by valleydobson1 on Nov 23, 2024 20:05:45 GMT
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Post by bigandy99 on Nov 23, 2024 20:43:19 GMT
It’s so frustrating to continue to give up valuable points.. no need to have lost today.. Ahadme’s miss was very poor..
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Post by petetongthereturn on Nov 23, 2024 21:42:47 GMT
A.M-B: 6. Doesn’t come out for crosses.
R.E.G.: 6
A.MITCHELL: 5
GILLESPHEY: 5
SMALL: 3. Didn’t bother to jump against their scorer for the first. Passing out of defence terrible.
COVENTRY: 5.5
ANDERSON: 4
DOCHERTY: 3
EDWARDS: 5
LEABURN: 6.5. What can he really do.
GODDEN: 6 what can he really do.
T.CAMPBELL: 7 again. Comes on last 15 jones finally sticks him out wide and we are threat.
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Post by paulgdownunder on Nov 23, 2024 23:53:27 GMT
Didn't watch the game but have just seen the 'highlights'....the red card was ridiculous, didn't even remotely meet the threshold for using excessive force where "excessive force is when a player exceeds the necessary use of force and/or endangers the safety of an opponent". Clearly a mere reckless challenge and thus a yellow only. Need VAR |
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Post by kings hill addick on Nov 24, 2024 9:19:36 GMT
Didn't watch the game but have just seen the 'highlights'....the red card was ridiculous, didn't even remotely meet the threshold for using excessive force where "excessive force is when a player exceeds the necessary use of force and/or endangers the safety of an opponent". Clearly a mere reckless challenge and thus a yellow only. I haven’t seen it. Was it a really bad call from the referee or is it possible that it could have looked worse when he only had one look at it in real time? Sometimes the tackle is not so bad but the player makes it look worse and ‘invites’ the referee to make a decision. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Nov 24, 2024 10:11:44 GMT
Red or not Docherty should never have given the refereee a decision to make in the first place.
Why even attempt to but his foot through the ball when it was so close to the defender. All he had to do was stand in front of him to stop him going anywhere.
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Post by aaronaldo on Nov 24, 2024 11:24:53 GMT
Didn't watch the game but have just seen the 'highlights'....the red card was ridiculous, didn't even remotely meet the threshold for using excessive force where "excessive force is when a player exceeds the necessary use of force and/or endangers the safety of an opponent". Clearly a mere reckless challenge and thus a yellow only. I haven’t seen it. Was it a really bad call from the referee or is it possible that it could have looked worse when he only had one look at it in real time? Sometimes the tackle is not so bad but the player makes it look worse and ‘invites’ the referee to make a decision. He basically volleyed the players leg. I don’t think we can have many complaints for the Red. He put some venom into it. It was just so completely unnecessary. I’d personally use this as an excuse to change captains. I’ve not seen a captains performance from Doc other than Bolton. I thought we would be a solid signing. |
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Post by kings hill addick on Nov 24, 2024 11:25:14 GMT
Red or not Docherty should never have given the refereee a decision to make in the first place. Why even attempt to but his foot through the ball when it was so close to the defender. All he had to do was stand in front of him to stop him going anywhere. I think that was the point I was trying to make. He has been a disappointment and I’m struggling to understand how a player with his CV can look to ‘average’. |
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Post by manikin on Nov 24, 2024 11:33:49 GMT
Red or not Docherty should never have given the refereee a decision to make in the first place. Why even attempt to but his foot through the ball when it was so close to the defender. All he had to do was stand in front of him to stop him going anywhere. I think that was the point I was trying to make. He has been a disappointment and I’m struggling to understand how a player with his CV can look to ‘average’. I think it's up to the manager to get the best out of him and Jones doesn't seem capable of doing that, in fact that could apply to the whole squad. |
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Post by chertseyaddick on Nov 24, 2024 12:21:22 GMT
It seems harsh to blame Small for the goal. We were playing 3 CBs and Pearson is 6'3" while Small is small at 5'10". The goal was scored from in front of the goal, so the 3 biggest defenders should have been covering this area.
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Post by aucklandaddick on Nov 24, 2024 12:52:23 GMT
It seems harsh to blame Small for the goal. We were playing 3 CBs and Pearson is 6'3" while Small is small at 5'10". The goal was scored from in front of the goal, so the 3 biggest defenders should have been covering this area. Wow mate you read my mind, why was Small marking their most dangerous aerial attacking threat……so yet again we manage to concede a goal due to a lack of defensive aerial ability at the back and I think the same player should have scored again but for the woodwork…yet posters keep telling me the problem is not at the back…..well in my mind if you have to score 2-3 every goal to get any sort of result then in my book I think we have a problem at the back…. Jones banging on about injuries but he had ample time to bring in another quality CB in the summer to play either in the three or compete with our other two competent CB’s in Mitchell and Jones to play in a two……instead he relied upon Gillesphey and brought in an unfit Potts, and Campbell…..you reap what you sow which is what is happening now…..Do you really think Wrexham , Wycombe or Birmingham would struggle as we are if one of there CB’ s got injured….. Its all very predicable and a carbon copy of last season, we give goals away miss our chances and all we hear is Jones going on about us being front footed when the team is generally dire in the first half or until we concede first….. You really have to wonder what the Americans think of all this……They have no doubt been told by Methven that they have supplied a top 4 budget yet we can’t win a game of football and have Hylton now playing regularly up top which is frankly laughable…. What the answer is to all this I have no fooking idea………But January will be pretty interesting to see what transpires because surely things cannot continue as they are so something will have to give…… |
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Post by chertseyaddick on Nov 24, 2024 14:23:58 GMT
We also had a choice to keep Ness, who we didnt get more than a marginal fee for, all weighted to a sell-on. I believe he was on less than £1k pw so hardly freed the budget. OK he hadn't returned to his pre-injury form, but he wasn't given a run in the side.
He was far superior in the air to either Mitchell, Gillesphey, REG or Edwards.
As we have found to our cost, lose Jones and we have been found wanting in the air.
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Post by se7sm on Nov 24, 2024 14:25:15 GMT
When oh when is this crap going to turn full circle and you can enjoy going to football again , this shit league and football we are cursed 🤔
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Post by redownunder on Nov 24, 2024 18:22:26 GMT
At the end of my last post I wrote -
If Jones somehow manages to put a winning run together and we start to creep up the table, then much of what has been written on here will be forgotten. Apart from Huddersfield away next, all of Charlton's games leading up to Christmas are very winnable IMO. If we lose to Burton Albion however - Jones has to go.
I will stick by that.
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Post by paulgdownunder on Nov 24, 2024 23:09:09 GMT
It seems harsh to blame Small for the goal. We were playing 3 CBs and Pearson is 6'3" while Small is small at 5'10". The goal was scored from in front of the goal, so the 3 biggest defenders should have been covering this area. So right here-.I am old school and a winger is a winger and a defender is a defender. Never the twain shall meet Sure a 6-foot plus defender can go up field for a corner in the last minutes of a game to try and connect, for an important winning or levelling goal And a winger can help out ,with robust defending, while under pressure. But IMO ,these are the two specialist positions ,Wingbacks , my arse ,WhoTF.manufactured this name? Perhaps Small is an out and out winger, and loves to take on his man, and cut in or create something in the box. like i have seen him do.I would dearly love to know, how he is used playing for his country. I doubt if his manger would expect thim to take on, tall forwards, at crosses, particularly corners, I think those blaming him for the goal against the Terriers., being as he is apparently 5'-10"in height ,is plainly ridiculous .Let the winger be himself and i am sure he will reek havock in defences.Over to you NJ |
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Post by millwallfan on Nov 25, 2024 1:14:01 GMT
It seems harsh to blame Small for the goal. We were playing 3 CBs and Pearson is 6'3" while Small is small at 5'10". The goal was scored from in front of the goal, so the 3 biggest defenders should have been covering this area. So right here-.I am old school and a winger is a winger and a defender is a defender. Never the twain shall meet Sure a 6-foot plus defender can go up field for a corner in the last minutes of a game to try and connect, for an important winning or levelling goal And a winger can help out ,with robust defending, while under pressure. But IMO ,these are the two specialist positions ,Wingbacks , my arse ,WhoTF.manufactured this name? Perhaps Small is an out and out winger, and loves to take on his man, and cut in or create something in the box. like i have seen him do.I would dearly love to know, how he is used playing for his country. I doubt if his manger would expect thim to take on, tall forwards, at crosses, particularly corners, I think those blaming him for the goal against the Terriers., being as he is apparently 5'-10"in height ,is plainly ridiculous .Let the winger be himself and i am sure he will reek havock in defences.Over to you NJ Interesting you say that about players, in that wIngers should be wingers and defenders should be defenders. When Romain Esse broke into the Millwall first 11 last season, one of his biggest faults (certainly in most fans eyes) was that he didn’t track back and help out in defence when needed. He saw himself as an out and out forward player and it probably never crossed his mind that he should do anything else but go forward. That all changed when Neil Harris took over as manager again. He drilled into Esse the need for all players to track back and help their fellow players out, regardless of what position they usually played in. During Harris’ 13 game spell last season, as well as the 16 league games played so far this season, Esse has learnt the art of tracking back and defending, to the point where against Sunderland on Saturday he put his body in the way of a shot from just outside the penalty box. Had he not tracked the player back and put his body on the line, chances are we would have been 2-0 down and that would have been game over for us! Last season under Rowett and Edwards, Esse wouldn’t have dreamed of doing something like that. Tracking back and defending has improved his overall game and that part of it will be an additional selling point that will increase his price when we finally sell him to a Premier League club next season. I would have thought, with Jones being a no nonsense manager in the same way that Harris is, that your manager isn’t expecting more from his players in that regard. I mean, isn’t that why he didn’t fancy Alfie May, because he wouldn’t do what Jones wanted him to do? |
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Post by aaronaldo on Nov 25, 2024 11:40:39 GMT
Did we find out what happened to Taylor? Another one on the injury list?
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Post by aucklandaddick on Nov 25, 2024 11:49:57 GMT
Did we find out what happened to Taylor? Another one on the injury list? Apparently fit but not selected in the match day squad…. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Nov 25, 2024 11:52:59 GMT
Did we find out what happened to Taylor? Another one on the injury list? Apparently fit but not selected in the match day squad…. Oh wow ok. Were his forward passing too attacking? |
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Post by manikin on Nov 25, 2024 12:14:22 GMT
Did we find out what happened to Taylor? Another one on the injury list? Apparently fit but not selected in the match day squad…. If that's the case Jones has lost it, although I'm beginning to think he never had it. |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Nov 25, 2024 12:31:10 GMT
Apparently fit but not selected in the match day squad…. If that's the case Jones has lost it, although I'm beginning to think he never had it. I just don’t think he rates him…..Jones seems to have set views about the players he likes……You can just tell Allan Campbell will come back in tomorrow night and he just can’t wait to get Hylton on the pitch……... If we don’t get wins against Burton, Walsall and Crawley you can tell the heat is going to go up……. |
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Post by kings hill addick on Nov 25, 2024 13:12:15 GMT
Apparently fit but not selected in the match day squad…. Oh wow ok. Were his forward passing too attacking? Apparently he's not, even, flown from Luton airport! |
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Post by aaronaldo on Nov 25, 2024 14:05:05 GMT
Looking at the stats elsewhere, we had a pass completion rate of 45% for this game. How bad is that?! That’s passed careless, that’s surely getting to ‘lost the dressing room’ type performance. Worrying
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Post by aucklandaddick on Nov 25, 2024 14:48:24 GMT
When oh when is this crap going to turn full circle and you can enjoy going to football again , this shit league and football we are cursed 🤔 I think you are not too far wrong with the cursed bit……🤔….Which ever way we turn managerial/ player/ injuries wise it soon all turns to custard and we start looking over our shoulders looking at the teams below us rather than upwards towards play off positions, especially with our top 4 budget…🤣…surely in any other industry continual failure would result in the investors getting involved and changes made but we just carry on week in week out with the usual shitness going on…….the only good thing about our club at present is our wonderful loyal away support Surely as an owner/s pumping in 9 million a year you would be asking the question what the fook is going on? 🤔 |
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Post by Bodiam on Nov 25, 2024 19:52:43 GMT
Did we find out what happened to Taylor? Another one on the injury list? Apparently fit but not selected in the match day squad…. If that is the case then Jones has lost the plot - even to have him on the bench as an alternative would be a sensible option - ridiculous, |
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