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Post by reamsofverse on Oct 15, 2024 19:51:08 GMT
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Post by bigandy99 on Oct 15, 2024 20:57:37 GMT
The lack of quality English managers is shocking..it shouldn’t come down to Howe or Potter!!
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Post by discocafc on Oct 15, 2024 22:03:49 GMT
Don’t agree with it at all. Can never have a German or Argentinian manager for England.
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Post by aaronaldo on Oct 16, 2024 6:34:22 GMT
Feels weird. Also not convinced by him as a manager either.
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Post by manikin on Oct 16, 2024 7:19:16 GMT
Like him or not at the moment, if he's successful in the end everything else will be forgotten, but in the fans eyes he won't have long.
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Post by cafcjack83 on Oct 16, 2024 7:39:24 GMT
Like him or not at the moment, if he's successful in the end everything else will be forgotten, but in the fans eyes he won't have long. It's only an 18 month contract so it's for the World Cup really that he's been brought in for. If he's not successful then we'll obviously look elsewhere. |
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Post by cafc4life on Oct 16, 2024 8:27:47 GMT
Been discussing this in the office at work today,
Out of all the managers available he is the only one with a decent track record and he has worked with a lot of the players.
As much as I'm not happy he is a German but i feel his the best out of a bad bunch.
Watch out for Lee Carsley managing the next 2 games in nations league and England getting relegated because we are not getting anything from Greece so they will qualify as winners and then we have Ireland at home who i wont be surprised who will get a result against England.
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Post by earlpurple on Oct 16, 2024 9:26:27 GMT
For England to be relegated Ireland would have to beat Finland and us lose again to Greece and then Ireland beat us and overcome goal-difference or beat us by 3 if it goes by head-to-head.
We could take top place is we beat Greece away by 2 goals or overcome goal difference whichever the decider is, and Greece away on 14 November is our next game.
It's not ideal having a German manager but right now there aren't really any great English ones. Eddie Howe potentially is the best there is, but he hasn't won anything yet at Newcastle.
Maybe going forward we need to try to produce better coaching staff / managers.
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Post by lewisham on Oct 16, 2024 12:03:32 GMT
We've got a German Royal family and now a German national team manager. They've tried twice to take over by going to war and lost both times, now they're trying to sneak in through the back door. Slippery bastards! 😂
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Post by aaronaldo on Oct 16, 2024 12:48:02 GMT
Can't believe a journalist actually asked him if he would sing the national anthem. 1. He's not English! 2. Who the fuck cares? It's got no relevance to our performances. We have some of our own players who don't sing it. Should we drop them?
Such a pointless question.
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Post by leedsaddick on Oct 16, 2024 19:02:55 GMT
Feels weird. Also not convinced by him as a manager either. Don’t mention the VAR…. I think I did once but got away with it 😂😂😂 |
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Post by canterburyaddick on Oct 16, 2024 20:47:19 GMT
I honestly don't care as long as we can finally put this, whatever the number, years of hurt behind us at last.
Perhaps he can now afford for someone other than his mum to cut his hair now.
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Post by AndyAddick on Oct 17, 2024 17:03:58 GMT
Like him or not at the moment, if he's successful in the end everything else will be forgotten, but in the fans eyes he won't have long. It's only an 18 month contract so it's for the World Cup really that he's been brought in for. If he's not successful then we'll obviously look elsewhere. 6 million for 18 mths , it’s a fooking disgrace |
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Post by tonaddick on Oct 17, 2024 18:32:32 GMT
As a Scot, I think this is a terrible appointment. You've finally decided to go for a world class coach who may get a decent tune out of the best group of players you've had for a while. I genuinely have the fear that you could win your second international tournament since the first international played 152 years ago.
Although, I am also quite amused at the obsession of having a home grown coach; I'm unsure when an English coach, other than Lee Carsley, last won an elite competition. Tony Russell, ex manager of Cray Wanderers, Lewes and Ramsgate made a great point on Twitter which was picked up by the Guardian. He set out the cost of a UEFA pro licence in 3 different countries and then contrasted that with the number of elite coaches from each country. £500 in Germany, £1000 in Spain and £4000 in England. You'd have to be extremely obtuse to not see a relationship between entry costs and number of elite coaches each country has produced.
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Post by hongkongaddick on Oct 17, 2024 19:18:50 GMT
I honestly don't care as long as we can finally put this, whatever the number, years of hurt behind us at last. Perhaps he can now afford for someone other than his mum to cut his hair now. He seems like a decent bloke, has got a sense of humour and is a quality manager. However, anything we win under a German coach will be tainted now. It would be bad enough with someone from a second tier nation but from our greatest rivals it’s sacrilegious. The only consolation is that it’s not an Argy. |
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Post by paulgdownunder on Oct 18, 2024 9:24:22 GMT
Sven did OK and he's a foreigner, Jones is doing OK and he's a foreigner too. I think its about time we moved on from 'the hand of God'saga And the fact that dudarse Thatcher, got realected, because we kicked the Argies of of the useles windswept cliffs of the Malvinas.
We could have got ex Socceroo manager Graham Arnold.After all his predesessor Ange Postecoglou is doing OK at Spurs
There is much to be said for Jones ball.As Arnold's successor. Tony Popovich set up a wall in Japan and came away with a creditable 1-1 draw, and was very unlucky not to get their first win there.This had Charlton V Brum all over it, and punters would be putting down a 4th consecutive victory for the Blue Samauri.at the top of the League, ladder.
Stats went near enough to--- OZ, One shot, not on target (Goal was an OG) all match.Japan 11 shots ,to 4 on target Plus another OG to level.It must have been a pretty dire match to watch. Just like Charlton's But its the results that count in my books
To note -- GK,Joe Gauchy who is keeping Mat Ryan out, along with AMB, made 4 saves. A GK to watch, i suspect. He should be back with Adelaide United for the start of the new A League season, tomorrow
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Post by hongkongaddick on Oct 18, 2024 14:21:12 GMT
Sven did OK and he's a foreigner, Jones is doing OK and he's a foreigner too. I think its about time we moved on from 'the hand of God'saga And the fact that dudarse Thatcher, got realected, because we kicked the Argies of of the useles windswept cliffs of the Malvinas. We could have got ex Socceroo manager Graham Arnold.After all his predesessor Ange Postecoglou is doing OK at Spurs There is much to be said for Jones ball.As Arnold's successor. Tony Popovich set up a wall in Japan and came away with a creditable 1-1 draw, and was very unlucky not to get their first win there.This had Charlton V Brum all over it, and punters would be putting down a 4th consecutive victory for the Blue Samauri.at the top of the League, ladder. Stats went near enough to--- OZ, One shot, not on target (Goal was an OG) all match.Japan 11 shots ,to 4 on target Plus another OG to level.It must have been a pretty dire match to watch. Just like Charlton's But its the results that count in my books To note -- GK,Joe Gauchy who is keeping Mat Ryan out, along with AMB, made 4 saves. A GK to watch, i suspect. He should be back with Adelaide United for the start of the new A League season, tomorrow I wouldn’t hugely object to an Aussie managing the football side. I never liked having the nose picker for the cricket, mind you. No nation with any self respect should appoint someone from your bitterest rivals to manage the national side. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Oct 18, 2024 14:25:17 GMT
We don't really have much choice though. The list of quality English managers is slim to say the least. None are at top prem clubs, which says it's own story. No English manager has ever won the premier league for example.
I'll be judging him on how we perform. He's won major trophies and fingers crossed he can do tht with us! I doubt many will really moan if he won us a trophy.
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Post by earlpurple on Oct 20, 2024 11:09:18 GMT
He set out the cost of a UEFA pro licence in 3 different countries and then contrasted that with the number of elite coaches from each country. £500 in Germany, £1000 in Spain and £4000 in England. You'd have to be extremely obtuse to not see a relationship between entry costs and number of elite coaches each country has produced. Assuming most of those applying were playing football at the top level, you'd think they could afford £4,000, in fact it's very little for training to be a top professional. But if they don't want to pay that, I guess they could always go to Germany to get their coaching badges. I do often wonder how much success is tied to who the coach is, and how much simply to which team has the biggest budget and can buy the best players. Of course we know many teams who have had a massive budget and yet underachieved. |
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Post by geronimo on Oct 21, 2024 11:54:01 GMT
Don’t agree with it at all. Can never have a German or Argentinian manager for England. Why do you say that ? My mother was half German. Should I kill myself because nobody so German should be allowed into the country. Please don't mention the war. |
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Post by geronimo on Oct 21, 2024 11:57:30 GMT
As a Scot, I think this is a terrible appointment. You've finally decided to go for a world class coach who may get a decent tune out of the best group of players you've had for a while. I genuinely have the fear that you could win your second international tournament since the first international played 152 years ago. Although, I am also quite amused at the obsession of having a home grown coach; I'm unsure when an English coach, other than Lee Carsley, last won an elite competition. Tony Russell, ex manager of Cray Wanderers, Lewes and Ramsgate made a great point on Twitter which was picked up by the Guardian. He set out the cost of a UEFA pro licence in 3 different countries and then contrasted that with the number of elite coaches from each country. £500 in Germany, £1000 in Spain and £4000 in England. You'd have to be extremely obtuse to not see a relationship between entry costs and number of elite coaches each country has produced. Had we choosen a Scot we would have really voted for never winning again ! |
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Post by geronimo on Oct 21, 2024 12:01:19 GMT
He set out the cost of a UEFA pro licence in 3 different countries and then contrasted that with the number of elite coaches from each country. £500 in Germany, £1000 in Spain and £4000 in England. You'd have to be extremely obtuse to not see a relationship between entry costs and number of elite coaches each country has produced. Assuming most of those applying were playing football at the top level, you'd think they could afford £4,000, in fact it's very little for training to be a top professional. But if they don't want to pay that, I guess they could always go to Germany to get their coaching badges. I do often wonder how much success is tied to who the coach is, and how much simply to which team has the biggest budget and can buy the best players. Of course we know many teams who have had a massive budget and yet underachieved. £500 is much cheaper though. The problem is that it costs too much to get any certification on anything in this country. That is why the only jobs in number are riding bikes delivering take away meals to the very people that need a fitness trainer ! |
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