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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 7, 2024 14:04:01 GMT
Going unnoticed and unchallenged again by the mods on there who clearly think abusing a poster and putting his mental health is bang out of order.
Supporting people with MH needs is what I do for a leaving and I find the abuse Bexleyboy gets on there is beyond acceptable.
I think that CAST who are heavily involved with that forum should consider their stance as I thing it's totally inappropriate for them to be associated with an online pro bullying fans website.
Well done for those sticking up for BB.
Keep up the good work Bexleyboy. I know we have a bit of leg pulling over here but it's all in good heart. Don't let the buggers elswhere get you down.
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Post by aaronaldo on Aug 7, 2024 14:17:33 GMT
Quite a few stick up for BB on there to be fair, but they get shouted down by the louder more popular lot. It's become an easy "lol/like" count when someone attacks BB for his comments. Reminds me a bit of the fish puns and constant "we'll only sign him if he's injury prone" type 'jokes' on there, which get repated for every player and get lot's of likes and lol's. That thread is rarely on topic.
I rarely agree with BB's comments but I don't see how the Mods just ignore the abuse he gets. He's just offering a different view/opinion/perspective.
It's not easy to manage a football forum though! You can't please everyone.
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Post by geronimo on Aug 7, 2024 14:32:50 GMT
Going unnoticed and unchallenged again by the mods on there who clearly think abusing a poster and putting his mental health is bang out of order. Supporting people with MH needs is what I do for a leaving and I find the abuse Bexleyboy gets on there is beyond acceptable. I think that CAST who are heavily involved with that forum should consider their stance as I thing it's totally inappropriate for them to be associated with an online pro bullying fans website. Well done for thos esticking up for BB. The others who are calling for him to be banned for no reason at all need to take a long hard look at themselves. Keep up the good work Bexleyboy. I know we have a bit of leg pulling over here but it's all in good heart. Don't let the buggers elswhere get you down. I make you spot on. When I suggested Aneke wasn't the Messiah re come and that Sandgaard would be out in 3 years and place the club up for sale after 2 I was berated. I was called a troll for noting to posters, the tosh they were scribbling on my comments because I said that each summer and most winter windows were appalling and to bugger off and support another club. I complained. The lovelies on there decided to ban me for a month. I complained and found an allie who got the ban lifted. Then they secretly allowed my comments to be seen by me but not others. Again I complained. I was told a member was dealing with my complaint. Nothing happened. The member said he was busy with business in Japan and to wait. That Saturday he responded to a member about the match with a comment that showed he had time. I contacted him and complained I asked why he post to someone else but ignored me. He banned me. I remain banned. The other in cahoots with our Japanofile has something to do with running the museum. Incidentally, when I spoke to Airman Brown about my views on Sandgaard, he said he couldn't yet comment as he was doing an article on Sandgaard for VOTV. CHARLTON LIFE has some good forums but it is infested with a group of clickey members who try to rule the roost and believe they are the chosen supporters and others view are wrong. Bexley Boy can be annoying at times but why not. I say near Johnathon Ashworth in the nineties with my 2 daughters in the north stand lower. He held strange ideas of players Curbishley should buy. However he was always polite and kind. Unlike the clickey ones who used to ridicule him. It is bullying. What they do is one of them will make a nasty remark about my posting. I would reply . Another would reply and another . I would reply to them but 2 or 3 others would reply instead. In fact there are some really nasty individuals on that site. Probably more nice ones but they are not the issue. It is better on this site.
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Post by valleyfaithful on Aug 7, 2024 14:52:45 GMT
When you're dealing with numbers like that, it inevitably turns into an echo chamber and at times, a pile on. They wear the 'like' and 'lol' badges like medals on their chest, which makes good debate die a death. I do think ITTV is the sweet spot for plenty of activity/posters, but being small enough to have an actual debate, as opposed to logging back in to see your original comment three pages back.
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 7, 2024 14:53:41 GMT
Some very good posters on there in the main but sadly there is a minority that seem intent on the bullyboy tactics.
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Post by petetongthereturn on Aug 7, 2024 15:15:07 GMT
That’s why I’m on here as certain main posters on cl always put people down if they didnt have the same opinion as them. Which is a shame.
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Post by chertseyaddick on Aug 7, 2024 15:50:51 GMT
Colin has posted here that he only goes on CL to wind them up. He is not even a skilled exponent of being a WUM. I just scroll through his posts on both forums.
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 7, 2024 16:01:08 GMT
Colin has posted here that he only goes on CL to wind them up. He is not even a skilled exponent of being a WUM. I just scroll through his posts on both forums. Are his posts of a WUM nature though? I don't think so.
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Post by discocafc on Aug 7, 2024 16:05:12 GMT
A mate of mine stopped posting on CL for the same reason Bexley received recently.
I see Bartram has put a post out on this.
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Post by garrynelson on Aug 7, 2024 17:24:35 GMT
Colin has posted here that he only goes on CL to wind them up. He is not even a skilled exponent of being a WUM. I just scroll through his posts on both forums. Are his posts of a WUM nature though? I don't think so. I think they are - that’s why I ignore them all
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Post by bannedfromcl on Aug 10, 2024 22:05:24 GMT
It's an odd site, used to be fun years ago but is now dominated by a Clique of left wingers who shut down anyone who disagree with their narrative. Bartram is a nice bloke who set up the site, but he has been trapped by his day job working for the Bank of England, so isn't allowed to be seen as anything but woke and it is reflected by his accolytes who run it now. The site changed about the same time as the brexit vote, everyone who didn't agree with the narrative that multiculturism was great and brexit voters were racist was shut down or banned, myself included. It is run by the left, for the left, or those who keep quiet and dont espouse any unconventional views. Its meant to be a football site but is in reality becoming a politically left driven site. But like they want all media to be like. There are posters on there who call tories or brexit voters scum and get away with it, yet others get banned for far less. Seems to be becoming the way of the world today, say what we want or get shut down for it. Welcome to 1984!¡
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Post by bannedfromcl on Aug 10, 2024 22:25:04 GMT
Best thing about his site is it doesn't get involved with politics, and take a side and say everyone else is wrong! CL's favourite poster is a failed politician at national level who has sneaked into being a local mayor position, due to a spat between tories and UKIP in an area where he and his party are hated! Bit like the national picture, they think their mandate runs true!!!
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 10, 2024 22:46:50 GMT
A mate of mine stopped posting on CL for the same reason Bexley received recently. I see Bartram has put a post out on this. Get him over here disco!
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Post by stu2020 on Aug 11, 2024 17:37:32 GMT
Going unnoticed and unchallenged again by the mods on there who clearly think abusing a poster and putting his mental health is bang out of order. Supporting people with MH needs is what I do for a leaving and I find the abuse Bexleyboy gets on there is beyond acceptable. I think that CAST who are heavily involved with that forum should consider their stance as I thing it's totally inappropriate for them to be associated with an online pro bullying fans website. Well done for those sticking up for BB. Keep up the good work Bexleyboy. I know we have a bit of leg pulling over here but it's all in good heart. Don't let the buggers elswhere get you down. There has been bullying to the same degree on this forum historically, I mentioned myself before, so let’s stamp it out here as well before we start throwing stones.
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 11, 2024 18:01:55 GMT
Going unnoticed and unchallenged again by the mods on there who clearly think abusing a poster and putting his mental health is bang out of order. Supporting people with MH needs is what I do for a leaving and I find the abuse Bexleyboy gets on there is beyond acceptable. I think that CAST who are heavily involved with that forum should consider their stance as I thing it's totally inappropriate for them to be associated with an online pro bullying fans website. Well done for those sticking up for BB. Keep up the good work Bexleyboy. I know we have a bit of leg pulling over here but it's all in good heart. Don't let the buggers elswhere get you down. There has been bullying to the same degree on this forum historically, I mentioned myself before, so let’s stamp it out here as well before we start throwing stones. Really? How far are you going back with that one. No bullying whatsoever goes on here to my knowledge. We disagree from time to time but that's why forums exist.
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Post by discocafc on Aug 11, 2024 19:46:02 GMT
A mate of mine stopped posting on CL for the same reason Bexley received recently. I see Bartram has put a post out on this. Get him over here disco! He hasn’t posted on there since 2016. I’ll ask him when I see him but don’t think he has time for forums The story behind it was despite him having major issues with Roland his issue was protesting during the game as it doesn’t help the team. He was getting smothered left right and centre over it so couldn’t be bothered to post anymore.
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 11, 2024 20:37:57 GMT
Clearly the CARD mob are having an effect on fans even until this day.
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Post by geronimo on Aug 12, 2024 11:17:53 GMT
Clearly the CARD mob are having an effect on fans even until this day. Is there a view on here that CARD were not water white ? I found a bullying culture with them.
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Post by kings hill addick on Aug 12, 2024 14:45:03 GMT
Clearly the CARD mob are having an effect on fans even until this day. Is there a view on here that CARD were not water white ? I found a bullying culture with them. I don't believe that any of the, actual, CARD members were bullies. I know a couple of them, that are friends of mine, and they are the nicest people you could wish to meet. I do think, however, that there were a lot of fans that had a lot of resentment towards those that didn't agree with their view. The fan base seemed to split and there were those that believed that boycotting/protesting etc. was the only way to save the club and those that wanted to keep going to support the club/players and to enjoy their days out with their friends and families. Needless to say when you love someone or something you can become very emotional when you believe that harm is being done to them/it. Message boards, and social media in general, can become echo chambers, and the majority on Charlton Life were keen to cause as much inconvenience towards Roland as possible. That meant that if you held the other view, as I did, or just wanted to be left alone to go to the games, you stood out. Add in the fact that message boards are 24 hour and we are all able to post when we are tired/drunk/irritable/angry - for what ever reason, and some posts became a little heated. I was advised by a friend of mine (who I trust to be completely honest) that during this time I came across as a real arse. The truth was that I was going through a divorce, a bit of a financial crises, and I was drinking a lot and, probably, taking out some of my anger and frustration on other fans. Don't get me wrong, I was being an arse, but even looking back now, from a much better place in my life, the other members of CL were giving as good as I was. I, also, still think that a lot of what I believed was was correct/acceptable, I just could have kept my thoughts to myself and/or not, deliberately, posted things to have a dig at someone - something that I'm not proud of. One thing that will never change, though, is that sometimes people can take a disliking to someone for some, unknown, reason and then they can go out of their way to undermine them. I have seen that on here, as well, though. Including receiving DMs from one poster that made all sorts of threats towards me. Managing social media is very difficult. Just look at what has been used to support/encourage 'riots' in the last month. Banning people is time consuming and they can always sign up again with a different username - like one, or two, have done on here. I suspect that those running Charlton Life are doing their best but with so many posts, every day, they can't be expected to police everyone of them. There is also the question of censorship and who has the right to decide what is acceptable and what is not. Sadly, I suspect that it will be a long time before the divisions that came about over the Duchâtelet ownership will, completely, heal, but I reiterate that I don't believe that the members of CARD were bullies and they get a lot of blame, now, for things that I don't believe they were responsible for, which is a little unfair, in my view.
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Post by discocafc on Aug 12, 2024 22:50:13 GMT
Clearly the CARD mob are having an effect on fans even until this day. Lol not really. My mate backed CARD as he wanted Roland gone, just didn’t agree with protesting during the game.
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Post by paulgdownunder on Aug 13, 2024 10:08:34 GMT
It's an odd site, used to be fun years ago but is now dominated by a Clique of left wingers who shut down anyone who disagree with their narrative. Bartram is a nice bloke who set up the site, but he has been trapped by his day job working for the Bank of England, so isn't allowed to be seen as anything but woke and it is reflected by his accolytes who run it now. The site changed about the same time as the brexit vote, everyone who didn't agree with the narrative that multiculturism was great and brexit voters were racist was shut down or banned, myself included. It is run by the left, for the left, or those who keep quiet and dont espouse any unconventional views. Its meant to be a football site but is in reality becoming a politically left driven site. But like they want all media to be like. There are posters on there who call tories or brexit voters scum and get away with it, yet others get banned for far less. Seems to be becoming the way of the world today, say what we want or get shut down for it. Welcome to 1984!¡ I am not so sure CL is a Clique of left wingers. I am a proud Republican and commented on their (IMO over the top) masthead, after the death of the queen.And that it was up there for,far too long. I feel that there are many ways to show fielty and patriotism towards ones country, besides, sycophantic fawning, to a monarch, born into privilege Many wont agree with me on this ,as i found out,by those soft Snowflakes on CL, But in spite of their blatent hypocrisy (re the masthead) i have learned to keep my very strong political feelings, to a more apropriate site
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Post by surridgecobbler5 on Aug 13, 2024 11:28:29 GMT
It's an odd site, used to be fun years ago but is now dominated by a Clique of left wingers who shut down anyone who disagree with their narrative. Bartram is a nice bloke who set up the site, but he has been trapped by his day job working for the Bank of England, so isn't allowed to be seen as anything but woke and it is reflected by his accolytes who run it now. The site changed about the same time as the brexit vote, everyone who didn't agree with the narrative that multiculturism was great and brexit voters were racist was shut down or banned, myself included. It is run by the left, for the left, or those who keep quiet and dont espouse any unconventional views. Its meant to be a football site but is in reality becoming a politically left driven site. But like they want all media to be like. There are posters on there who call tories or brexit voters scum and get away with it, yet others get banned for far less. Seems to be becoming the way of the world today, say what we want or get shut down for it. Welcome to 1984!¡
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Post by surridgecobbler5 on Aug 13, 2024 11:30:56 GMT
Spot on bannedfromcl, There was a huge 'politicisation' of the club in the Late Curbishley era which in many ways split the support and formed a Clique on CL that dictated views and caused plenty to depart.
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