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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 5, 2024 14:55:38 GMT
Just had it straight from the horse's mouth.
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Post by valley on Jul 6, 2024 14:09:56 GMT
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Post by aaronaldo on Jul 6, 2024 14:18:57 GMT
At least this puts an end to the whole saga |
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Post by wellingaddick on Jul 6, 2024 14:21:38 GMT
At least this puts an end to the whole saga Amen to that! |
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Post by watameires on Jul 6, 2024 14:38:34 GMT
Mixed feelings. Not sure I wanted him back but shame he’s gone to Wrexham
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Post by Mundell on Jul 6, 2024 15:53:12 GMT
Whatever one’s views about George Dobson might be it has to be a blessing that this saga has finally been resolved.
We’ll probably never know what’s really gone on, but I’d be intrigued to know why Fehérvár were happy to release Dobson from his contract, i.e. why they didn’t seek compensation? Did their changed circumstances mean they were relieved to escape any liability for the package he’d agreed? Also, I wonder if we made any serious attempt to resign him? If not, why not?
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Post by roburwash on Jul 6, 2024 19:14:22 GMT
With all the international attention that Wrexham get, Dobbo could become a bit of a star there.
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Post by isignedcorygibbs on Jul 7, 2024 7:08:35 GMT
One of the most overrated footballers we have had. We have been shit for the 3 seasons he played in. Not his fault as we have had some terrible players around him. But he is slow, average going forward and goes missing when the team is up against it. He is not a patch on kins, jacko, holland and even Semedo. Only reason I say that is I’ve seen people put him in the same bracket as them.
I am glad he’s moved on and says it all he’s stayed in league one.
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Post by bigandy99 on Jul 7, 2024 7:34:52 GMT
As per the song… “Let it go, let it go”…
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Post by grapevine49 on Jul 7, 2024 8:02:59 GMT
Don’t you just love the life of a football Manager? A severe lack of creativity & goals in midfield and re signing one G Dobson 2021- 2024 was seen as a supporters, in season, necessity? Maybe when you move away from the noise of the season it becomes less emotional. A week in football is a very long time.
Maybe people’s perceptions & experiences about contracts really are that different. The probably traditional groundswell of opinion is you deserve a new contract as a reward for past performance but the reality is you have done been paid for that already. Certainly when I moved from salaried to consultant contract employment 90% of the discussions were not about past performance, that got me through the door, but about what I could deliver going forward……..on what money……in comparison to anybody else………within/ without the building.
In the building, offering continuity, a good work ethic, able play at this level and maybe develop under a coach prepared to test his game, in truth, I’d have been very pleased had George extended his contract. He didn’t. He signed for the money elsewhere. That’s fine.
Once you put yourself on the outside you are in a different market. All of a sudden is George the midfield general we need to take us forward or just maybe do we need to spend our « top » money elsewhere? There were always going to be some decent Championship Central Midfielders as free agents. Not to mention those entering the last year of their contract.
George did do what he did very well but was it ever going to be enough? Doesn’t it irk, not one Championship club kicked the tyres?
I didn’t need the episode of TOWIE in the process. Whatever the rights & wrongs of any negotiations none of it had any place in the public domain. Ironically the chaos resurfaces with the cancellation of his Hungarian contract. Due diligence anyone? anywhere? It positions so many questions. Could it get more County League? Honestly I wouldn’t have his agent in the building. There are standards. No, not everybody follows the rules but most know commercial life is greatly improved if you keep certain people away from your business.
The moment George put pen to paper on the Hungarian pre contract it was done. He was bound by its terms & conditions and the club under UEFA rules was immediately prohibited from entering into further contractual dialogue. No club can interfere with any such existing contract without the express permission of all relevant parties. Indeed termination of the Hungarian contract has financial consequences.
Two other parties held a financial interest in the contract. 1. Dobson’s Agent 2. The Hungarian Clubs Recruitment Agent. Did they get paid?
It ultimately was never going to be in the clubs interest to be seen to have induced Dobson to terminate his contract by resigning him. Such eventuality would leave the club open to possible investigation from UEFA and those with financial interest in the contract.
George I genuinely wish it were different but on balance there really are times when it is best for everybody to simply move on. Good luck.
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Post by dickybaby on Jul 7, 2024 8:30:51 GMT
The point about looking forward and securing a contract based on your potential is the important one. I've posted elsewhere but Coventry so much better on the ball than Dobbo is and if he were that good surely clubs would have come in for him particularly on a potential free
From my seat in the AC stand there have been some truly awful moments over the last few years. Under Adkins the defeat to Accrington stands out with Dobbo the only shining light with his backs to the wall attitude. However, we wont be that team anymore so the type of player we need will be different.
A few good wins into the season and there'll be no more talk of Dobbo. He will be remembered as the only shining of 3 years of truly awful football and he will always get a good reception whenever he comes to the Valley
On another note why any Englishman would want to sign for them given the anti English populism from Mullins, Mclean, the fans etc is beyond me
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Post by scabbyhorse on Jul 7, 2024 8:35:49 GMT
Don’t you just love the life of a football Manager? A severe lack of creativity & goals in midfield and re signing one G Dobson 2021- 2024 was seen as a supporters, in season, necessity? Maybe when you move away from the noise of the season it becomes less emotional. A week in football is a very long time. Maybe people’s perceptions & experiences about contracts really are that different. The probably traditional groundswell of opinion is you deserve a new contract as a reward for past performance but the reality is you have done been paid for that already. Certainly when I moved from salaried to consultant contract employment 90% of the discussions were not about past performance, that got me through the door, but about what I could deliver going forward……..on what money……in comparison to anybody else………within/ without the building. In the building, offering continuity, a good work ethic, able play at this level and maybe develop under a coach prepared to test his game, in truth, I’d have been very pleased had George extended his contract. He didn’t. He signed for the money elsewhere. That’s fine. Once you put yourself on the outside you are in a different market. All of a sudden is George the midfield general we need to take us forward or just maybe do we need to spend our « top » money elsewhere? There were always going to be some decent Championship Central Midfielders as free agents. Not to mention those entering the last year of their contract. George did do what he did very well but was it ever going to be enough? Doesn’t it irk, not one Championship club kicked the tyres? I didn’t need the episode of TOWIE in the process. Whatever the rights & wrongs of any negotiations none of it had any place in the public domain. Ironically the chaos resurfaces with the cancellation of his Hungarian contract. Due diligence anyone? anywhere? It positions so many questions. Could it get more County League? Honestly I wouldn’t have his agent in the building. There are standards. No, not everybody follows the rules but most know commercial life is greatly improved if you keep certain people away from your business. The moment George put pen to paper on the Hungarian pre contract it was done. He was bound by its terms & conditions and the club under UEFA rules was immediately prohibited from entering into further contractual dialogue. No club can interfere with any such existing contract without the express permission of all relevant parties. Indeed termination of the Hungarian contract has financial consequences. Two other parties held a financial interest in the contract. 1. Dobson’s Agent 2. The Hungarian Clubs Recruitment Agent. Did they get paid? It ultimately was never going to be in the clubs interest to be seen to have induced Dobson to terminate his contract by resigning him. Such eventuality would leave the club open to possible investigation from UEFA and those with financial interest in the contract. George I genuinely wish it were different but on balance there really are times when it is best for everybody to simply move on. Good luck. Another good post Grapevine |
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Post by roburwash on Jul 7, 2024 8:55:55 GMT
Don’t you just love the life of a football Manager? A severe lack of creativity & goals in midfield and re signing one G Dobson 2021- 2024 was seen as a supporters, in season, necessity? Maybe when you move away from the noise of the season it becomes less emotional. A week in football is a very long time. Maybe people’s perceptions & experiences about contracts really are that different. The probably traditional groundswell of opinion is you deserve a new contract as a reward for past performance but the reality is you have done been paid for that already. Certainly when I moved from salaried to consultant contract employment 90% of the discussions were not about past performance, that got me through the door, but about what I could deliver going forward……..on what money……in comparison to anybody else………within/ without the building. In the building, offering continuity, a good work ethic, able play at this level and maybe develop under a coach prepared to test his game, in truth, I’d have been very pleased had George extended his contract. He didn’t. He signed for the money elsewhere. That’s fine. Once you put yourself on the outside you are in a different market. All of a sudden is George the midfield general we need to take us forward or just maybe do we need to spend our « top » money elsewhere? There were always going to be some decent Championship Central Midfielders as free agents. Not to mention those entering the last year of their contract. George did do what he did very well but was it ever going to be enough? Doesn’t it irk, not one Championship club kicked the tyres? I didn’t need the episode of TOWIE in the process. Whatever the rights & wrongs of any negotiations none of it had any place in the public domain. Ironically the chaos resurfaces with the cancellation of his Hungarian contract. Due diligence anyone? anywhere? It positions so many questions. Could it get more County League? Honestly I wouldn’t have his agent in the building. There are standards. No, not everybody follows the rules but most know commercial life is greatly improved if you keep certain people away from your business. The moment George put pen to paper on the Hungarian pre contract it was done. He was bound by its terms & conditions and the club under UEFA rules was immediately prohibited from entering into further contractual dialogue. No club can interfere with any such existing contract without the express permission of all relevant parties. Indeed termination of the Hungarian contract has financial consequences. Two other parties held a financial interest in the contract. 1. Dobson’s Agent 2. The Hungarian Clubs Recruitment Agent. Did they get paid? It ultimately was never going to be in the clubs interest to be seen to have induced Dobson to terminate his contract by resigning him. Such eventuality would leave the club open to possible investigation from UEFA and those with financial interest in the contract. George I genuinely wish it were different but on balance there really are times when it is best for everybody to simply move on. Good luck. You always have good things to say but you need a good editor. |
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Post by watameires on Jul 7, 2024 8:58:44 GMT
Plus word count restriction
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Post by grapevine49 on Jul 7, 2024 9:08:00 GMT
Sorry I am probably too old to change now! Console yourself I really don’t post very often
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Post by aucklandaddick on Jul 7, 2024 9:16:26 GMT
Sorry I am probably too old to change now! Console yourself I really don’t post very often You keep posting mate👍 |
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Post by ashaddick on Jul 7, 2024 9:55:08 GMT
Sorry I am probably too old to change now! Console yourself I really don’t post very often You keep posting mate👍 Ditto 👍 |
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