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Post by weststandfruitloop on Jul 2, 2024 11:24:36 GMT
This morning the main Fehevar (the Hungarian club Dobson signed a pre-contract with) forum has exploded with talk that Dobson is no longer joining them.
A hundred plus posts from dozens of different posters are saying it, so their fan base believe it, whether or not it's true.
The main theory is that it's because Fehevar's manager changed. The one Dobbo signed for (Grzelak) was the main attraction and had come over to England to see him a couple of times. It seems GD doesn't want to play for the new guy.
Of course that doesn't mean he'll be resigning for us. Maybe Huddersfield and Birmingham will fight it out for him, who knows?
Here's a small selection of this morning's posts from different Fehevar fans (Google translated from Hungarian so the language might be odd):
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Dobson was already here last week, the photos were taken with him, he went to get his things and move, then suddenly, citing family reasons, he asked to cancel his contract. Point.
Unfortunately, that's it, the story ends here, we get the money we paid for it back, we need another vkp from that. to look after.
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Well, if this is really the case with Dobson, then I certainly wouldn't let him go. So what does he think he is? Is he leaving because the coach is different? If we let him go, I'm sure he'd be made to pay a termination fee, if he doesn't want to play or pay, then there's a lawsuit, which he'd fail because he broke the contract. It's that simple.
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Honestly, I'm with the player on this one. From the English third division, he saw an opportunity to maybe take a step forward with an association that also plays internationally, there was a coach, there was a motivated team. Then he enters the dressing room and sees a f**king big question mark as to whether he should risk his "retired" job for this insecure person. I don't think we offer much perspective at the moment to anyone coming from outside.
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Let's turn it around.
A player comes, you do the interviews and the photo shoot, 3-4 articles are prepared, and then he doesn't change his clothes on Monday morning.
Here is the part where they sit down with him and discuss where to go next.
This can have several meanings.
e.g. it remains, but we still announce it, or break it up with it, the articles don't come out unnecessarily, and we don't burn ourselves out, or we don't break it up with it and try to sell it, although this version is the most improbable.
As long as there are no points for these, you can point the finger at the leaders here, but right now I don't feel they are primarily at fault here.
Somewhere I also understand the player's side, because the club he transferred to is no longer that club.
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What has changed since February? The coach is gone. That's it.
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What do you do if you are offered something at a new workplace, and when you get there you see that your boss is not the one who hired you, and the others are running away?
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I agree...if you want to leave, talk to your former club, they will buy you back and that's it...
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I think it doesn't reflect well on the club that anyone here can withdraw from a signed contract because they don't like something.
He signed for Fehérvár FC, not Grzelak FC. That's an amateur.
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Post by brad on Jul 2, 2024 11:33:10 GMT
This morning the main Fehevar (the Hungarian club Dobson signed a pre-contract with) forum has exploded with talk that Dobson is no longer joining them. A hundred plus posts from dozens of different posters are saying it, so their fan base believe it, whether or not it's true. The main theory is that it's because Fehevar's manager changed. The one Dobbo signed for (Grzelak) was the main attraction and had come over to England to see him a couple of times. It seems GD doesn't want to play for the new guy. Of course that doesn't mean he'll be resigning for us. Maybe Huddersfield and Birmingham will fight it out for him, who knows? Here's a small selection of this morning's posts from different Fehevar fans (Google translated from Hungarian so the language might be odd): ----- Dobson was already here last week, the photos were taken with him, he went to get his things and move, then suddenly, citing family reasons, he asked to cancel his contract. Point. Unfortunately, that's it, the story ends here, we get the money we paid for it back, we need another vkp from that. to look after. ----- Well, if this is really the case with Dobson, then I certainly wouldn't let him go. So what does he think he is? Is he leaving because the coach is different? If we let him go, I'm sure he'd be made to pay a termination fee, if he doesn't want to play or pay, then there's a lawsuit, which he'd fail because he broke the contract. It's that simple. ----- Honestly, I'm with the player on this one. From the English third division, he saw an opportunity to maybe take a step forward with an association that also plays internationally, there was a coach, there was a motivated team. Then he enters the dressing room and sees a f**king big question mark as to whether he should risk his "retired" job for this insecure person. I don't think we offer much perspective at the moment to anyone coming from outside. ------ Let's turn it around. A player comes, you do the interviews and the photo shoot, 3-4 articles are prepared, and then he doesn't change his clothes on Monday morning. Here is the part where they sit down with him and discuss where to go next. This can have several meanings. e.g. it remains, but we still announce it, or break it up with it, the articles don't come out unnecessarily, and we don't burn ourselves out, or we don't break it up with it and try to sell it, although this version is the most improbable. As long as there are no points for these, you can point the finger at the leaders here, but right now I don't feel they are primarily at fault here. Somewhere I also understand the player's side, because the club he transferred to is no longer that club. ----- What has changed since February? The coach is gone. That's it. ----- What do you do if you are offered something at a new workplace, and when you get there you see that your boss is not the one who hired you, and the others are running away? ----- I agree...if you want to leave, talk to your former club, they will buy you back and that's it... ------ I think it doesn't reflect well on the club that anyone here can withdraw from a signed contract because they don't like something. He signed for Fehérvár FC, not Grzelak FC. That's an amateur. I said last night wasn't happening now. Charlton could have him but messing around. |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Jul 2, 2024 11:36:50 GMT
This morning the main Fehevar (the Hungarian club Dobson signed a pre-contract with) forum has exploded with talk that Dobson is no longer joining them. A hundred plus posts from dozens of different posters are saying it, so their fan base believe it, whether or not it's true. The main theory is that it's because Fehevar's manager changed. The one Dobbo signed for (Grzelak) was the main attraction and had come over to England to see him a couple of times. It seems GD doesn't want to play for the new guy. Of course that doesn't mean he'll be resigning for us. Maybe Huddersfield and Birmingham will fight it out for him, who knows? Here's a small selection of this morning's posts from different Fehevar fans (Google translated from Hungarian so the language might be odd): ----- Dobson was already here last week, the photos were taken with him, he went to get his things and move, then suddenly, citing family reasons, he asked to cancel his contract. Point. Unfortunately, that's it, the story ends here, we get the money we paid for it back, we need another vkp from that. to look after. ----- Well, if this is really the case with Dobson, then I certainly wouldn't let him go. So what does he think he is? Is he leaving because the coach is different? If we let him go, I'm sure he'd be made to pay a termination fee, if he doesn't want to play or pay, then there's a lawsuit, which he'd fail because he broke the contract. It's that simple. ----- Honestly, I'm with the player on this one. From the English third division, he saw an opportunity to maybe take a step forward with an association that also plays internationally, there was a coach, there was a motivated team. Then he enters the dressing room and sees a f**king big question mark as to whether he should risk his "retired" job for this insecure person. I don't think we offer much perspective at the moment to anyone coming from outside. ------ Let's turn it around. A player comes, you do the interviews and the photo shoot, 3-4 articles are prepared, and then he doesn't change his clothes on Monday morning. Here is the part where they sit down with him and discuss where to go next. This can have several meanings. e.g. it remains, but we still announce it, or break it up with it, the articles don't come out unnecessarily, and we don't burn ourselves out, or we don't break it up with it and try to sell it, although this version is the most improbable. As long as there are no points for these, you can point the finger at the leaders here, but right now I don't feel they are primarily at fault here. Somewhere I also understand the player's side, because the club he transferred to is no longer that club. ----- What has changed since February? The coach is gone. That's it. ----- What do you do if you are offered something at a new workplace, and when you get there you see that your boss is not the one who hired you, and the others are running away? ----- I agree...if you want to leave, talk to your former club, they will buy you back and that's it... ------ I think it doesn't reflect well on the club that anyone here can withdraw from a signed contract because they don't like something. He signed for Fehérvár FC, not Grzelak FC. That's an amateur. I said last night wasn't happening now. Charlton could have him but messing around. Sorry fella confused……What wasn’t happening last night?………George playing for the Hungarian side this season coming…..or him re joining us? Out of interest Is there still a chance he could rejoin us? |
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Post by brad on Jul 2, 2024 11:56:29 GMT
I said last night wasn't happening now. Charlton could have him but messing around. Sorry fella confused……What wasn’t happening last night?………George playing for the Hungarian side this season coming…..or him re joining us? Out of interest Is there still a chance he could rejoin us? His not going Hungary. |
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Post by valleyfaithful on Jul 2, 2024 12:00:07 GMT
Sorry fella confused……What wasn’t happening last night?………George playing for the Hungarian side this season coming…..or him re joining us? Out of interest Is there still a chance he could rejoin us? His not going Hungary. If he's not going Hungary, is he staying with us or signing elsewhere? Are Charlton still messing him about now? |
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Post by clarky on Jul 2, 2024 12:03:00 GMT
This morning the main Fehevar (the Hungarian club Dobson signed a pre-contract with) forum has exploded with talk that Dobson is no longer joining them. A hundred plus posts from dozens of different posters are saying it, so their fan base believe it, whether or not it's true. The main theory is that it's because Fehevar's manager changed. The one Dobbo signed for (Grzelak) was the main attraction and had come over to England to see him a couple of times. It seems GD doesn't want to play for the new guy. Of course that doesn't mean he'll be resigning for us. Maybe Huddersfield and Birmingham will fight it out for him, who knows? Here's a small selection of this morning's posts from different Fehevar fans (Google translated from Hungarian so the language might be odd): ----- Dobson was already here last week, the photos were taken with him, he went to get his things and move, then suddenly, citing family reasons, he asked to cancel his contract. Point. Unfortunately, that's it, the story ends here, we get the money we paid for it back, we need another vkp from that. to look after. ----- Well, if this is really the case with Dobson, then I certainly wouldn't let him go. So what does he think he is? Is he leaving because the coach is different? If we let him go, I'm sure he'd be made to pay a termination fee, if he doesn't want to play or pay, then there's a lawsuit, which he'd fail because he broke the contract. It's that simple. ----- Honestly, I'm with the player on this one. From the English third division, he saw an opportunity to maybe take a step forward with an association that also plays internationally, there was a coach, there was a motivated team. Then he enters the dressing room and sees a f**king big question mark as to whether he should risk his "retired" job for this insecure person. I don't think we offer much perspective at the moment to anyone coming from outside. ------ Let's turn it around. A player comes, you do the interviews and the photo shoot, 3-4 articles are prepared, and then he doesn't change his clothes on Monday morning. Here is the part where they sit down with him and discuss where to go next. This can have several meanings. e.g. it remains, but we still announce it, or break it up with it, the articles don't come out unnecessarily, and we don't burn ourselves out, or we don't break it up with it and try to sell it, although this version is the most improbable. As long as there are no points for these, you can point the finger at the leaders here, but right now I don't feel they are primarily at fault here. Somewhere I also understand the player's side, because the club he transferred to is no longer that club. ----- What has changed since February? The coach is gone. That's it. ----- What do you do if you are offered something at a new workplace, and when you get there you see that your boss is not the one who hired you, and the others are running away? ----- I agree...if you want to leave, talk to your former club, they will buy you back and that's it... ------ I think it doesn't reflect well on the club that anyone here can withdraw from a signed contract because they don't like something. He signed for Fehérvár FC, not Grzelak FC. That's an amateur. I said last night wasn't happening now. Charlton could have him but messing around. Can I ask who is messing around? We are constantly led to believe NJ is 100% in charge of the transfers and he appears to want Dobson so it can't be him! |
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Post by brad on Jul 2, 2024 12:16:51 GMT
I said last night wasn't happening now. Charlton could have him but messing around. Can I ask who is messing around? We are constantly led to believe NJ is 100% in charge of the transfers and he appears to want Dobson so it can't be him! I believe Jones wants him but I do believe there is resistance elsewhere. They put the right offer in he signs and we have another really good player to build on and with |
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Post by clarky on Jul 2, 2024 12:22:47 GMT
Can I ask who is messing around? We are constantly led to believe NJ is 100% in charge of the transfers and he appears to want Dobson so it can't be him! I believe Jones wants him but I do believe there is resistance elsewhere. They put the right offer in he signs and we have another really good player to build on and with Well I am going for Scott as the resistance. |
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Post by watameires on Jul 2, 2024 12:34:47 GMT
I thought this ownership were going to provide us with an upgrade on Dobson
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Post by haff5 on Jul 2, 2024 12:38:05 GMT
It's being suggested on Forums in Hungary that Dobson has withdrawn from the contract....
This could be an interesting twist (or nonsense)
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Post by brad on Jul 2, 2024 12:48:42 GMT
I thought this ownership were going to provide us with an upgrade on Dobson Shown he can already do it in a bad team. Passion and cares about the club. Always played 40 odd games a season. You know exactly what you are getting with Dobson. |
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Post by kings hill addick on Jul 2, 2024 12:50:17 GMT
It's being suggested on Forums in Hungary that Dobson has withdrawn from the contract.... This could be an interesting twist (or nonsense) Here we go, again.... |
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Post by 1978sussex on Jul 2, 2024 12:52:45 GMT
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Post by bexleyboy on Jul 2, 2024 13:31:12 GMT
According to my information George Dobson who left @cafcofficial canceled his new contract with @fehervar_FC .
Someone with connections to Fehervar FC
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Post by seriouslyred on Jul 2, 2024 13:33:39 GMT
I thought this ownership were going to provide us with an upgrade on Dobson Shown he can already do it in a bad team. Passion and cares about the club. Always played 40 odd games a season. You know exactly what you are getting with Dobson. Alternatively, he hasn't shown he can help deliver a top six competitive side. Our midfield has been bang average for several seasons. Same can be said about CBT and May. I'd leave the club to to complete the squad over next few weeks, then see what we look like over our first ten games. |
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Post by melrose555 on Jul 2, 2024 13:35:40 GMT
Shown he can already do it in a bad team. Passion and cares about the club. Always played 40 odd games a season. You know exactly what you are getting with Dobson. Alternatively, he hasn't shown he can help deliver a top six competitive side. Our midfield has been bang average for several seasons. Same can be said about CBT and May. I'd leave the club to to complete the squad over next few weeks, then see what we look like over our first ten games. You're on a wind up |
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Post by herewego on Jul 2, 2024 13:39:54 GMT
If Dobson has cancelled his contract and does not end back at the Valley and signs for another league one team there could be murders. Reams what’s the latest with Dobbo?
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Post by brad on Jul 2, 2024 14:19:06 GMT
If Dobson has cancelled his contract and does not end back at the Valley and signs for another league one team there could be murders. Reams what’s the latest with Dobbo? Totally agree and if they carry on messing around this is what will happen. |
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Post by kings hill addick on Jul 2, 2024 14:48:40 GMT
If Dobson has cancelled his contract and does not end back at the Valley and signs for another league one team there could be murders. Reams what’s the latest with Dobbo? I'm sorry, I don't understand this. The club had plenty of opportunities to offer the player what he wanted and it chose not to. Are you suggesting that, after signing for another club, on much more money, Dobson is going to come back with his tail between his legs and accept the offer the club made last season? Or you suggesting that the club should take a large chunk of the money that we receive for May and offer it to a player that wouldn't sign six months ago, signed for another club, and then changed his mind and comes back expecting a huge pay rise? Unless I've missed something, Dobson has benefitted by having the insurance of a guaranteed contract and continuing wages, if he suffers a terrible injury between end of January and the start of July, and now that he is fully fit he want's to be a free agent and sign for someone else. I'm not sure that reflects well on a player. That's before we factor in what the club has paid the player and his Agent to get him to sign in the first place. The longer this goes on, the less I want to see George Dobson in a Charlton shirt, again. |
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Post by LoyalAddick on Jul 2, 2024 15:04:02 GMT
I'm in the minority here but I really don't want him back.
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Post by cafcph on Jul 2, 2024 15:08:47 GMT
Imagine the shit storm if he signs for another club in England rather than Charlton 😂
I’d have him back in a heartbeat but the amount of crap spouted before he left was embarrassing
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Post by garrynelson on Jul 2, 2024 15:09:18 GMT
I'm in the minority here but I really don't want him back. I prefer midfielders who are lazy and can’t tackle myself Harry Arter’s a free agent, isn’t he? |
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Post by LoyalAddick on Jul 2, 2024 15:20:17 GMT
I'm in the minority here but I really don't want him back. I prefer midfielders who are lazy and can’t tackle myself Harry Arter’s a free agent, isn’t he? I just don't get the hype around dobson personally he's a very average footballer at best. We will need better if we want to get promoted next season. |
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Post by garrynelson on Jul 2, 2024 15:41:52 GMT
I prefer midfielders who are lazy and can’t tackle myself Harry Arter’s a free agent, isn’t he? I just don't get the hype around dobson personally he's a very average footballer at best. We will need better if we want to get promoted next season. NJ has openly said he’s a top player with many unsung attributes, so I’d guess that some of the hype is, at the very least, justified |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 2, 2024 16:41:29 GMT
If Dobson has cancelled his contract and does not end back at the Valley and signs for another league one team there could be murders. Reams what’s the latest with Dobbo? Well I did say last week that it's never over until it's over and that was based on something I was told. That said I did correct it a bit later on as the person who told me then said he had misheard a conversation but what I can say is there is no smoke without fire. |
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Post by Mundell on Jul 2, 2024 16:54:55 GMT
According to my information George Dobson who left @cafcofficial canceled his new contract with @fehervar_FC . Someone with connections to Fehervar FC Can he unilaterally cancel his contract with Fehérvár? Interesting precedent if he can. |
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Post by bigandy99 on Jul 2, 2024 17:09:17 GMT
We should move on or the new team won’t evolve..
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Post by sevenoaks on Jul 2, 2024 19:12:52 GMT
I believe Jones wants him but I do believe there is resistance elsewhere. They put the right offer in he signs and we have another really good player to build on and with Well I am going for Scott as the resistance. I will second that!. |
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Post by zenga on Jul 3, 2024 1:57:22 GMT
I can see Dobson do well in a team that wants to get promoted IF he sticks to his main job as a defensive midfielder and doesn't try to do things he can't do (which he in a way was forced to do in the past due to lack of quality in the team). He is a rather poor box-to-box player in my opinion, and should just give the balls he wins to the football players.
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Post by watameires on Jul 3, 2024 6:19:28 GMT
I can see Dobson do well in a team that wants to get promoted IF he sticks to his main job as a defensive midfielder and doesn't try to do things he can't do (which he in a way was forced to do in the past due to lack of quality in the team). He is a rather poor box-to-box player in my opinion, and should just give the balls he wins to the football players. I second that. If Dobson comes back then Coventry has to go and be replaced with a lively box to box midfielder |
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