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Post by valley on Apr 26, 2024 16:23:56 GMT
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Post by manikin on Apr 26, 2024 16:29:05 GMT
Womens football I believe is generally on Sundays, hopefully not the same week when we are home.
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Apr 27, 2024 15:32:40 GMT
Womens football I believe is generally on Sundays, hopefully not the same week when we are home. The whole point of a hybrid pitch is it can put up with multiple games in a week (and groundsharing etc) so it shouldn't be a problem. Also, it's the women's pitch, so if any games are gonna move it will probably be the men's ones!
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Post by Mundell on Apr 27, 2024 16:17:22 GMT
Womens football I believe is generally on Sundays, hopefully not the same week when we are home. The whole point of a hybrid pitch is it can put up with multiple games in a week (and groundsharing etc) so it shouldn't be a problem. Also, it's the women's pitch, so if any games are gonna move it will probably be the men's ones! That’s obviously a tongue cheek comment, but it’s very clear that the ownership are taking the Women’s team very seriously. On one of his podcasts Methvan made the point that the investment in the Women’s team is amongst the biggest in Women’s football when judged relative to Club revenues. This announcement is simply more evidence of this commitment.
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Apr 27, 2024 16:44:52 GMT
The whole point of a hybrid pitch is it can put up with multiple games in a week (and groundsharing etc) so it shouldn't be a problem. Also, it's the women's pitch, so if any games are gonna move it will probably be the men's ones! That’s obviously a tongue cheek comment, but it’s very clear that the ownership are taking the Women’s team very seriously. On one of his podcasts Methvan made the point that the investment in the Women’s team is amongst the biggest in Women’s football when judged relative to Club revenues. This announcement is simply more evidence of this commitment. My comment is not remotely tongue in cheek. The new pitch is mostly (70-75%) funded via a grant only available to elite women's teams. My local women's team (Lewes) got the exact same grant (750k) for the exact same thing (new hybrid-grass pitch) in the exact same division (Women's Championship) last summer. Charlton men (60th in the men's pyramid compared to our 14th placed women) are no more eligible for such a grant than Isthmian League Lewes men (193rd equal in the pyramid compared to their 23rd place women). The grant paying the majority of the cost for these pitches is part of the funding to properly regrow the women's game and it's actually written into the terms of the grant that the women's team will have priority access (above other teams, including first team men) for at least the next 10 years. Non-league Lewes men are lucky to have a million quid pitch to play on and so will be third division plodders Charlton men. Both pitches are grant funded on the basis of the elite women's team (not donkey men's team) playing there. I'm not making any points re men's vs women's football. I'm just pointing out that it's a demonstrable fact that this new pitch is primarily for Charlton women. They're kindly (too much hassle to swap the turf out between games, yeah?) letting our blokes team play on it too x
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Post by manikin on Apr 27, 2024 18:20:12 GMT
That’s obviously a tongue cheek comment, but it’s very clear that the ownership are taking the Women’s team very seriously. On one of his podcasts Methvan made the point that the investment in the Women’s team is amongst the biggest in Women’s football when judged relative to Club revenues. This announcement is simply more evidence of this commitment. My comment is not remotely tongue in cheek. The new pitch is mostly (70-75%) funded via a grant only available to elite women's teams. My local women's team (Lewes) got the exact same grant (750k) for the exact same thing (new hybrid-grass pitch) in the exact same division (Women's Championship) last summer. Charlton men (60th in the men's pyramid compared to our 14th placed women) are no more eligible for such a grant than Isthmian League Lewes men (193rd equal in the pyramid compared to their 23rd place women). The grant paying the majority of the cost for these pitches is part of the funding to properly regrow the women's game and it's actually written into the terms of the grant that the women's team will have priority access (above other teams, including first team men) for at least the next 10 years. Non-league Lewes men are lucky to have a million quid pitch to play on and so will be third division plodders Charlton men. Both pitches are grant funded on the basis of the elite women's team (not donkey men's team) playing there. I'm not making any points re men's vs women's football. I'm just pointing out that it's a demonstrable fact that this new pitch is primarily for Charlton women. They're kindly (too much hassle to swap the turf out between games, yeah?) letting our blokes team play on it too x I think he meant my comment was tongue in cheek.
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Apr 27, 2024 19:04:01 GMT
Oops. Apologies to both you and Mundell if so x
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Post by Mundell on Apr 28, 2024 12:33:09 GMT
That’s obviously a tongue cheek comment, but it’s very clear that the ownership are taking the Women’s team very seriously. On one of his podcasts Methvan made the point that the investment in the Women’s team is amongst the biggest in Women’s football when judged relative to Club revenues. This announcement is simply more evidence of this commitment. My comment is not remotely tongue in cheek. The new pitch is mostly (70-75%) funded via a grant only available to elite women's teams. My local women's team (Lewes) got the exact same grant (750k) for the exact same thing (new hybrid-grass pitch) in the exact same division (Women's Championship) last summer. Charlton men (60th in the men's pyramid compared to our 14th placed women) are no more eligible for such a grant than Isthmian League Lewes men (193rd equal in the pyramid compared to their 23rd place women). The grant paying the majority of the cost for these pitches is part of the funding to properly regrow the women's game and it's actually written into the terms of the grant that the women's team will have priority access (above other teams, including first team men) for at least the next 10 years. Non-league Lewes men are lucky to have a million quid pitch to play on and so will be third division plodders Charlton men. Both pitches are grant funded on the basis of the elite women's team (not donkey men's team) playing there. I'm not making any points re men's vs women's football. I'm just pointing out that it's a demonstrable fact that this new pitch is primarily for Charlton women. They're kindly (too much hassle to swap the turf out between games, yeah?) letting our blokes team play on it too x Thanks for your explanation weststandfruitloop I wasn’t aware of that background. It’s interesting. I confess manikin that my tongue in cheek comment was a reaction to weststandfruitloop ‘s observation that if any of the games are gonna move it will probably be the men’s games. I hadn’t understood that a condition of the grant received was that the women’s team will play all of their games at the Valley (which is how I understand the explanation given), but I nevertheless still think he was being deliberately provocative and mischievous!! Given the current level of support (and ticket prices) it would be a very brave (and perhaps suicidal) executive that even hinted that the women’s team was being given priority over the men’s.
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Post by canterburyaddick on Apr 29, 2024 17:56:08 GMT
Probably an appropriate time to give a shout out to Charlton Women who narrowly missed out on promotion by 1 point. Only one goes up to the WSL. I was there yesterday with my football mad granddaughter to see them beat Southampton 2-0. There was talk about Newcastle Women coming up from the National League with Saudi funding. But having been towards to top of the Championship for the past two years, I hope we give it a real go next season.
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Post by aaronaldo on Apr 29, 2024 18:15:01 GMT
Great season for them!
It’s a shame it’s only 1 up 1 down. Seems very hard to get promoted.
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Apr 30, 2024 9:33:40 GMT
Great season for them! It’s a shame it’s only 1 up 1 down. Seems very hard to get promoted. This is also the first season two go down from the Championship (unluckily for Lewes and their fancy new pitch). Previously the National North & South champions had to play off for a single promotion place to this division, so was even harder to go up from that level! The top two women's divisions are splitting off (leaving FA control) from next season as their own Premier League style set-up. Whilst they are staying as two divisions of 12 for the moment, there is a lot of pressure to expand them (mostly likely to two divisions of 16) asap. Not only would that mean at least two up/down between the divisions, but also extra teams moving up when the expansion happens. So as long as Charlton can remain one of the top clubs in the Championship, we will end up in the top division (Super League) one way or another in the next couple of years.
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Post by manikin on Apr 30, 2024 9:47:27 GMT
They should have won promotion, a few weeks back it was in their hands and they lost two consecutive home matches. One against Reading the other against London City Lionesses, both teams finishing well down the table.
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