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Post by weststandfruitloop on May 3, 2024 18:46:39 GMT
If only we could get rid of Andy Scott - a stain on our club for having allowed the Dobson situation to arise. Pretty sure the only person who allowed "the Dobson situation to arise" was Dobson himself. Yeah there were other bell-ends (eg Scott and Dobbo's agent) in play, but George ain't no child and he signed what he signed. I'm amazed that people still be acting like he's somehow a baby who didn't know what he was doing. |
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Post by reamsofverse on May 3, 2024 22:25:46 GMT
NJ wants a minimum of 8 before the end of June. Could be more and I'd imagine more will be added later on in the window.
Now the problem is where do they all fit with the squad being as big as it already is? Well the answer to that is what we all saw today was a list of players who are still in contract, it wasn't a retained list and there will be several who would have been told in the past couple of days that they do not feature in Nathan's plans going forward and are therefore the club wil listen to offers.
Fees for some of the players moving on are likely to be wavered with the buying clubs paying up the rest of a departing players CAFC contract instead. Some may have already been told they can speak to other clubs as there is no point staying with us if they are not going to get game time.
Others will go out on loan.
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Post by roburwash on May 4, 2024 11:21:03 GMT
If only we could get rid of Andy Scott - a stain on our club for having allowed the Dobson situation to arise. Pretty sure the only person who allowed "the Dobson situation to arise" was Dobson himself. Yeah there were other bell-ends (eg Scott and Dobbo's agent) in play, but George ain't no child and he signed what he signed. I'm amazed that people still be acting like he's somehow a baby who didn't know what he was doing. But he wouldn't have taken the decision if Scott had recognised his worth (which Jones did) and given him an appropriate contract rather than make him an offer that provoked his discontent. If Jones had been in place when Dobson first started negotiating I'm pretty sure that he would still be playing for us. So, yes, Scott created the situation. |
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Post by bexleyboy on May 4, 2024 11:36:18 GMT
The only problem was on the length of contract not the money ..
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Post by valley on May 4, 2024 12:38:34 GMT
Be championship players available soon.
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Post by aucklandaddick on May 4, 2024 12:45:46 GMT
A bit random I know but Jason Kerr is now out of contract…..thought he looked really decent for Wigan against us……Was previously due to join us before going to Wigan
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Post by cafcginge on May 4, 2024 12:46:40 GMT
Be championship players available soon. hopefully is the market we look at mainly. anyone got any names? |
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Post by kings hill addick on May 4, 2024 12:48:35 GMT
Pretty sure the only person who allowed "the Dobson situation to arise" was Dobson himself. Yeah there were other bell-ends (eg Scott and Dobbo's agent) in play, but George ain't no child and he signed what he signed. I'm amazed that people still be acting like he's somehow a baby who didn't know what he was doing. But he wouldn't have taken the decision if Scott had recognised his worth (which Jones did) and given him an appropriate contract rather than make him an offer that provoked his discontent. If Jones had been in place when Dobson first started negotiating I'm pretty sure that he would still be playing for us. So, yes, Scott created the situation. Personally, I don’t believe that. We will never know, for sure, but I suspect that Jones is very good at saying what the fans want to hear. I’m not sure I would have given Dobson a three year contract on good money. This type of decision has cost the club a small fortune, again and again. It’s not for nothing that most contracts are, now, two years with the option of another one. Just look at the players we have on existing three year deals that we, literally, can’t give away. I don’t think that we will miss Dobson, personally, just like we, hopefully, won’t miss finishing 14th or 16th in the third division. |
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Post by aucklandaddick on May 4, 2024 13:17:47 GMT
But he wouldn't have taken the decision if Scott had recognised his worth (which Jones did) and given him an appropriate contract rather than make him an offer that provoked his discontent. If Jones had been in place when Dobson first started negotiating I'm pretty sure that he would still be playing for us. So, yes, Scott created the situation. Personally, I don’t believe that. We will never know, for sure, but I suspect that Jones is very good at saying what the fans want to hear. I’m not sure I would have given Dobson a three year contract on good money. This type of decision has cost the club a small fortune, again and again. It’s not for nothing that most contracts are, now, two years with the option of another one. Just look at the players we have on existing three year deals that we, literally, can’t give away. I don’t think that we will miss Dobson, personally, just like we, hopefully, won’t miss finishing 14th or 16th in the third division. The issue here KHA is that Dobson has been head and shoulders above the rest of his team mates( apart from May) in terms of effort, commitment etc….in amongst a load of absolute dross and fans need a hero or a focal point of positivity to cling onto…… I thought the major problem we had last season was that our midfield wasn’t good enough to control games and take care of the football well enough which meant our dodgy mistake ridden defence was put under more pressure than they could cope with…….The other concern has been our previous inability to recruit / replace good players with better players who can improve the team…. My feeling is that NJ will bring in 3 technically better midfielders this summer who will not concede possession as easily as we have done this season and as soon as we start playing decent football through our midfield and start consistently winning games the noise about Dobson will soon reduce IMO |
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Post by aucklandaddick on May 4, 2024 13:25:10 GMT
Ipswich bring on Walton as a last minute sub probably as a thank you and good bye……Would be a great keeper choice for us if we could get him
Congrats to Ipswich, a story that can only inspire clubs like us to replicate…….
Commiserations to Birmingham……a story of poor ownership managerial decisions which have come back to well and truly bite them on the arse…
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Post by weststandfruitloop on May 4, 2024 15:05:55 GMT
Ipswich bring on Walton as a last minute sub probably as a thank you and good bye……Would be a great keeper choice for us if we could get him. I was expecting them to bring him on as a late sub to say goodbye to the fans. I have been banging this drum for weeks now but Walton as our first signing is absolutely what I'm hoping for. The rebuild needs to begin from the back of the pitch. Fingers crossed that NJ's links (coaching him for three years at Brighton then making him his first summer signing at Luton) will come through re Walton, who is our best choice for GK imho. |
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Post by bexleyboy on May 4, 2024 15:21:31 GMT
John Marquis Released by Bristol Rovers .. hopefully we won’t face him next season
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Post by 1978sussex on May 4, 2024 17:37:58 GMT
Someone on other forum saying Wiredu from fleetwood has signed and was at training ground today
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Post by addickryan on May 4, 2024 18:34:13 GMT
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Post by addickryan on May 4, 2024 18:35:48 GMT
Never mind it’s from Colchester |
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Post by cafcginge on May 4, 2024 18:45:11 GMT
Someone on other forum saying Wiredu from fleetwood has signed and was at training ground today yeh but how often are they reliable? |
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Post by Bexleyranger on May 4, 2024 18:48:47 GMT
Someone on other forum saying Wiredu from fleetwood has signed and was at training ground today I |
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Post by sevenoaks on May 4, 2024 18:52:56 GMT
Good player.
Did he have a fall outwih Lee Bowyer?.
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Post by reamsofverse on May 4, 2024 18:53:06 GMT
Someone on other forum saying Wiredu from fleetwood has signed and was at training ground today yeh but how often are they reliable? As relaible as saying Aneke has left when he hasn't! |
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Post by cafcginge on May 4, 2024 18:55:09 GMT
yeh but how often are they reliable? As relaible as saying Aneke has left when he hasn't! exactly my point! would be a nice signing tho |
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Post by seriouslyred on May 4, 2024 19:49:39 GMT
But he wouldn't have taken the decision if Scott had recognised his worth (which Jones did) and given him an appropriate contract rather than make him an offer that provoked his discontent. If Jones had been in place when Dobson first started negotiating I'm pretty sure that he would still be playing for us. So, yes, Scott created the situation. Personally, I don’t believe that. We will never know, for sure, but I suspect that Jones is very good at saying what the fans want to hear. I’m not sure I would have given Dobson a three year contract on good money. This type of decision has cost the club a small fortune, again and again. It’s not for nothing that most contracts are, now, two years with the option of another one. Just look at the players we have on existing three year deals that we, literally, can’t give away. I don’t think that we will miss Dobson, personally, just like we, hopefully, won’t miss finishing 14th or 16th in the third division. If we miss Dobson next season then it will be because the recruitment this summer simply hasn't been good enough. A rounded appraisal of our last 16 games under Jones suggests that we hit a mid-table level of performance with our xGA and goals conceded coming down to a sensible level. But no improvement in creativity. The aim is to secure promotion to the Championship, and we know what that looks and feels like. The good news is that the club has just announced 14 players are leaving. And some of the 15 senior players left will sorely be sold or loaned out. There will be plenty of squad spaces and budget to recruit 6-8 quality players to improve the spine. Plenty of opportunities to improve the midfield which has failed to achieve a top six standard since Cullen and the rest left. |
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Post by bexleyboy on May 5, 2024 8:23:19 GMT
We don’t need to replace Dobson Coventry already here we need to
replace Dobson and Anderson as attacking , creative goalscoring midfielders which they are clearly not ..
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Post by aucklandaddick on May 5, 2024 8:52:32 GMT
We don’t need to replace Dobson Coventry already here we need to replace Dobson and Anderson as attacking , creative goalscoring midfielders which they are clearly not .. Judging by the fact that he benched Coventry at Wycombe for Bakinson after an average performance in his previous game I am not so sure NJ is fully convinced by him yet…..I still think we will have a completely new midfield three starting the first game of next season…but I do think Coventry is technically a good footballer and will silence some of his doubters and play an integral part next season….. |
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Post by aaronaldo on May 5, 2024 8:59:51 GMT
We don’t need to replace Dobson Coventry already here we need to replace Dobson and Anderson as attacking , creative goalscoring midfielders which they are clearly not .. Judging by the fact that he benched Coventry at Wycombe for Bakinson after an average performance in his previous game I am not so sure NJ is fully convinced by him yet…..I still think we will have a completely new midfield three starting the first game of next season…but I do think Coventry is technically a good footballer and will silence some of his doubters and play an integral part next season….. Pretty sure Nathan used the last game to get a final assessment on some loans and out of contract players. He played Fiorini for example who hadn’t had any minutes for him previously. I wouldn’t read that Coventry was dropped imo. He has a lot to prove though. |
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Post by brad on May 5, 2024 9:20:19 GMT
We don’t need to replace Dobson Coventry already here we need to replace Dobson and Anderson as attacking , creative goalscoring midfielders which they are clearly not .. Either could lace Dobson's boots at the moment. A lot to learn on both. Don't forgot these have been playing most of the last 14 games and we wasn't winning every week. We needed to add players with Dobson to get better and stronger team. And going to end up paying wages to someone that all Dobson was asking for in the first place. |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2024 9:46:29 GMT
Let us not get carried away that Dobson is some world beater. He was a hard working hard tackling midfielder. Some of his passing was poor and he doesn't score many goals. Yes I think we will miss him but hopefully we get better through the door.
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Post by reamsofverse on May 5, 2024 10:41:24 GMT
Let us not get carried away that Dobson is some world beater. He was a hard working hard tackling midfielder. Some of his passing was poor and he doesn't score many goals. Yes I think we will miss him but hopefully we get better through the door. Couldn't agree more. |
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Post by somerton on May 5, 2024 11:29:51 GMT
A bit random I know but Jason Kerr is now out of contract…..thought he looked really decent for Wigan against us……Was previously due to join us before going to Wigan Players from every team look good against us. Never judge a play on how he played against us, except if he looked useless. Because then he is worse than useless. |
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Post by aaronaldo on May 5, 2024 12:28:44 GMT
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Post by somerton on May 5, 2024 13:32:49 GMT
You have to wonder why, clubs like this get bought by multibillionaires and none are interested in us, the so called bigger club. |
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