Anyone else bored shitless?

[reamsofverse]

Now that little run of results has secured our L2 status the excitement of it all seems to have subsided and all I want now is this season to end so we can get to work on rebuilding over the summer and create a squad that will not let this season's shitshow happen all over again.

I said what's needed for months and used so many written examples that I have run out of words.

Everything I have said though about what players we need was summed up perfectly in Ipswich Towns 5th goal against Sheffield Wednesday last weekend.

Two attacking midfielders driving forward and having a shot. Do that and anything can happen. Either they score or the keeper saves it and Alfie's there for the rebound. I have said no end of times but we don't have those midfielders currently, rarely do they get high up the pitch and on the odd occasion they do they are not capable of troubling the goalie.

I've also said Alfie is at his best inside the area. He'll get on the end of crosses, spills and mistakes so we need to work the keeper more.

[valley]

How will it ever get better?.

[massivebeak]

Yeah I was thinking this earlier, I never really expected us to get relegated and now we’re secure it’s all a little flat. Just want the season over so Jones can start rebuilding.

[dartford36]

League 1, reams mate👍🏻

Inevitable when we’re scrabbling for mid table mediocrity but there are still points to be played for to avoid finishing in the lowest league position for years. Therefore, there is still more than enough to keep me interested between now and the end of the season.

Then the rebuild begins.

[manikin]

I would like to think they are by now aware of where exactly the team needs strengthening, which is more positions than not and have their preferred targets already in mind.

[Occam’s Razor]

Yes, it’s what’s known as “League One-itis”.

It’s apparent from CAFC social media that a lot of weariness & apathy has set in, it’s not unique to this forum.

League One sludge is hard going.

I definitely won’t be buying a ST for next season, and it will be interesting to see the trajectory of our attendances.

The only plus point is Nathan Jones.

[Tom1982]

Exactly this. Now the jeopardy has gone it’s dawning on me again just how shit this season has been! Summed up perfectly by the calibre of the loan signings. Fiorini, Watson, Ladapo, Camera, Abankwah, Tedic and Bakinson. The stuff of nightmares.

[huddy1978]

I'm ready to put this season to bed and forget all about it.

I think regardless of the division if your not going for the playoffs or the league, or in a serious relegation battle then the interest goes.

Will look forward to a new era next season, can only get better!

[Mundell]

For anyone bored shitless, here’s a random fact based on Ipswich’s six goal demolition of Sheffield Wednesday, courtesy of Bill Edgar in the Times.

“Of the 18 teams playing in the EFL Championship on Saturday, Ipswich Town, who beat Sheffield Wednesday 6-0, scored as many goals as 16 of the other teams combined. Their contribution of 40 per cent of the Championship’s 15 goals was the highest proportion in any league division on one day featuring at least nine matches since October 21, 1899, when Sheffield Wednesday themselves supplied four of the ten goals scored in the second tier’s nine games that day.”

As Michael Caine claimed he never said, “Not many people know that”!!

[keepthefaith]

Said to my old man literally yesterday (again) that I can't wait for this season to be done

[seriouslyred]

Mar 19, 2024 18:37:27 GMT reamsofverse said:

Now that little run of results has secured our L2 status the excitement of it all seems to have subsided and all I want now is this season to end so we can get to work on rebuilding over the summer and create a squad that will not let this season's shitshow happen all over again.

I said what's needed for months and used so many written examples that I have run out of words.

Everything I have said though about what players we need was summed up perfectly in Ipswich Towns 5th goal against Sheffield Wednesday last weekend.

Two attacking midfielders driving forward and having a shot. Do that and anything can happen. Either they score or the keeper saves it and Alfie's there for the rebound. I have said no end of times but we don't have those midfielders currently, rarely do they get high up the pitch and on the odd occasion they do they are not capable of troubling the goalie.

I've also said Alfie is at his best inside the area. He'll get on the end of crosses, spills and mistakes so we need to work the keeper more.

Reading everything you've put down and I'd argue that the pre-season starts now! Seven games left for Jones to examine who he can work with. And players have an opportunity to play for extensions, or contracts elsewhere.

Obviously we can't make the play-offs but Jones will have 16 games overall in charge - that's a third of a season.

Then roughly ten of the first team squad will leave the building with replacements arriving soon after. Most agree we need to strengthen the spine of the side - and by strengthen we don't mean a repeat of the Swindon Athletic fiasco from a couple of years back.

As you state a new Number 10, plus another couple of decent midfielders to complement Coventry plus whoever else stays. Then they need to assess Leaburn, Kanu, May and our goal threat.

Think we're good at wing back, but a new stronger keeper, and a decent replacement for one of Hector, Thomas or Ness. But in a way you're right, for it's all about a team on paper.

Once these new arrivals bed in, let's see what the bookies say and how the first ten games go. I'll put money on a top six finish before we even kick a ball! That's as long as a few decent players arrive before pre-season.

[Occam’s Razor]

An interesting thread, which serves as a reminder that people support a football club for all different reasons.

[aucklandaddick]

Mar 19, 2024 22:09:49 GMT seriouslyred said:

Mar 19, 2024 18:37:27 GMT reamsofverse said:

Now that little run of results has secured our L2 status the excitement of it all seems to have subsided and all I want now is this season to end so we can get to work on rebuilding over the summer and create a squad that will not let this season's shitshow happen all over again.

I said what's needed for months and used so many written examples that I have run out of words.

Everything I have said though about what players we need was summed up perfectly in Ipswich Towns 5th goal against Sheffield Wednesday last weekend.

Two attacking midfielders driving forward and having a shot. Do that and anything can happen. Either they score or the keeper saves it and Alfie's there for the rebound. I have said no end of times but we don't have those midfielders currently, rarely do they get high up the pitch and on the odd occasion they do they are not capable of troubling the goalie.

I've also said Alfie is at his best inside the area. He'll get on the end of crosses, spills and mistakes so we need to work the keeper more.

Reading everything you've put down and I'd argue that the pre-season starts now! Seven games left for Jones to examine who he can work with. And players have an opportunity to play for extensions, or contracts elsewhere.

Obviously we can't make the play-offs but Jones will have 16 games overall in charge - that's a third of a season.

Then roughly ten of the first team squad will leave the building with replacements arriving soon after. Most agree we need to strengthen the spine of the side - and by strengthen we don't mean a repeat of the Swindon Athletic fiasco from a couple of years back.

As you state a new Number 10, plus another couple of decent midfielders to complement Coventry plus whoever else stays. Then they need to assess Leaburn, Kanu, May and our goal threat.

Think we're good at wing back, but a new stronger keeper, and a decent replacement for one of Hector, Thomas or Ness. But in a way you're right, for it's all about a team on paper.

Once these new arrivals bed in, let's see what the bookies say and how the first ten games go. I'll put money on a top six finish before we even kick a ball! That's as long as a few decent players arrive before pre-season.

I agree with the general assessment from all about what is required for next season but the key for me is the quality of player

This squad will score goals and I think we will be decent enough now in the wingback area if they both stay fit, it is taking midfield control of games and keeping goals out which has been our Achilles heal this season

We definitely need a new keeper, at least one quality leader/ captain to play in the middle of the back three and two to three quality midfielders to compliment Coventry,

As a bench mark you would really have to consider if any new recruit coming would also be on the radar or be snapped up by the likes of Derby, Pompey and Bolton and not the Swindon Town fiasco via Garner previously

For me it is all about the quality rather than the quantity coming in and all must all NJ’s choices rather than the choices of the present recruitment incumbent 

[aaronaldo]

Mar 20, 2024 8:29:27 GMT aucklandaddick said:

Mar 19, 2024 22:09:49 GMT seriouslyred said:

Reading everything you've put down and I'd argue that the pre-season starts now! Seven games left for Jones to examine who he can work with. And players have an opportunity to play for extensions, or contracts elsewhere.

Obviously we can't make the play-offs but Jones will have 16 games overall in charge - that's a third of a season.

Then roughly ten of the first team squad will leave the building with replacements arriving soon after. Most agree we need to strengthen the spine of the side - and by strengthen we don't mean a repeat of the Swindon Athletic fiasco from a couple of years back.

As you state a new Number 10, plus another couple of decent midfielders to complement Coventry plus whoever else stays. Then they need to assess Leaburn, Kanu, May and our goal threat.

Think we're good at wing back, but a new stronger keeper, and a decent replacement for one of Hector, Thomas or Ness. But in a way you're right, for it's all about a team on paper.

Once these new arrivals bed in, let's see what the bookies say and how the first ten games go. I'll put money on a top six finish before we even kick a ball! That's as long as a few decent players arrive before pre-season.

I agree with the general assessment from all about what is required for next season but the key for me is the quality of player

This squad will score goals and I think we will be decent enough now in the wingback area if they both stay fit, it is taking midfield control of games and keeping goals out which has been our Achilles heal this season

We definitely need a new keeper, at least one quality leader/ captain to play in the middle of the back three and two to three quality midfielders to compliment Coventry,

As a bench mark you would really have to consider if any new recruit coming would also be on the radar or be snapped up by the likes of Derby, Pompey and Bolton and not the Swindon Town fiasco via Garner previously

For me it is all about the quality rather than the quantity coming in and all must all NJ’s choices rather than the choices of the present recruitment incumbent 

It's nice to see so many of us thinking along the same lines in terms of what is needed. Some windows you can have completely different lists of what is needed. It seems pretty clear for most now though.

Agree it's about quality. I don't think we need loads of additions to turn this squad into a challenger next season as long as we bring in quality signings for the positions you both mention.

I'm definitely ready for this season to be over but I have to say I'm really looking forward to the summer and next season already. As I believe we do had quite a solid squad to build upon and a manager who know's how to build a squad. Certainly relieved after the recent run of form. January and Feb were very worrying!!

[kings hill addick]

I'm, actually, enjoying our recent run of results. Clearly the 'excitement' has dwindled a bit, now that relegation looks very unlikely, but I'm in no rush for the season to finish.

I'm not being negative, but I think we still have a lot of work to do make our squad top six and with half a dozen new signings - on the basis that I don't expect them to arrive in June, we are likely to start the season slowly while the new players settle in.

I think we will challenge for promotion next season but I think it'll be more like 2018/19, where we start slowly and come good in the second half, than 2011/12, where we were top of the table from the outset.

[AndyAddick]

Mar 19, 2024 19:41:40 GMT dartford36 said:

League 1, reams mate👍🏻

Inevitable when we’re scrabbling for mid table mediocrity but there are still points to be played for to avoid finishing in the lowest league position for years. Therefore, there is still more than enough to keep me interested between now and the end of the season.

Then the rebuild begins.

Division THREE ,, dartford mate :-) 

[Occam’s Razor]

If you look back over the last 15 years on ITTV you will notice two repeated themes 🫤

1. seriouslyred looking forward to judging the team in 6 months time,

2. People clinging on to the prospect that the next Summer rebuild will be better than the last one.

I’d agree with the view that we now need quality not quantity this Summer.

5/6 Championship standard players, who go straight into our first team in August and make a difference from Day 1.

A quality keeper, a quick and reliable centre half, and a creative No.10 are absolute musts this Summer.

[revilo]

I still get the buzz when it's football day but yes now we near enough know our fate, there's not much excitement. I've only been to the one game this season - Stevenage away but that's mainly because of a personal situation.

[manikin]

Mar 20, 2024 11:51:49 GMT Occam’s Razor said:

If you look back over the last 15 years on ITTV you will notice two repeated themes 🫤

1. seriouslyred looking forward to judging the team in 6 months time,

2. People clinging on to the prospect that the next Summer rebuild will be better than the last one.

I’d agree with the view that we now need quality not quantity this Summer.

5/6 Championship standard players, who go straight into our first team in August and make a difference from Day 1.

A quality keeper, a quick and reliable centre half, and a creative No.10 are absolute musts this Summer.

I think we are in a better position to achieve a quality summer strengthening than we have been for 15 years.

[bilko]

I’m just grateful I’m bored, it didn’t look like that six weeks ago.

[newyorkaddick]

Yes, me too although think I may just be losing interest in football generally.....think we effectively secured safety at Cheltenham and haven't watched any games (streams) since and won't watch any more this season.

Obviously Jones has had a positive impact but results are hardly exceptional (3 wins in 9) and we're miles off an automatic promotion push next season.

[aucklandaddick]

Mar 20, 2024 19:52:05 GMT newyorkaddick said:

Yes, me too although think I may just be losing interest in football generally.....think we effectively secured safety at Cheltenham and haven't watched any games (streams) since and won't watch any more this season.

Obviously Jones has had a positive impact but results are hardly exceptional (3 wins in 9) and we're miles off an automatic promotion push next season.

I think the time  to truly judge Jones is when he has his own side out there, this current squad is Scott’s and it is patently clear that Jones doesn’t rate that many of them hence sticking virtually to the same 12 or 13 players each game

Jones brought in Small who IMO is far too good for league one, I am pretty excited to see what other talents he brings in during the summer

[Occam’s Razor]

Mar 20, 2024 21:58:37 GMT aucklandaddick said:

Mar 20, 2024 19:52:05 GMT newyorkaddick said:

Yes, me too although think I may just be losing interest in football generally.....think we effectively secured safety at Cheltenham and haven't watched any games (streams) since and won't watch any more this season.

Obviously Jones has had a positive impact but results are hardly exceptional (3 wins in 9) and we're miles off an automatic promotion push next season.

I think the time  to truly judge Jones is when he has his own side out there, this current squad is Scott’s and it is patently clear that Jones doesn’t rate that many of them hence sticking virtually to the same 12 or 13 players each game

Jones brought in Small who IMO is far too good for league one, I am pretty excited to see what other talents he brings in during the summer

The only thing that can now alleviate the “bored shitless” feeling is a sustained period of success on the field of play.

After arguably 18 seasons of near constant failure, both home attendances, ST sales and even CAFC forum interest is at rock bottom.

You only have to look at how empty the North Upper is at a home game, or how numbers have declined on post match threads on all forums, to witness how interest has gradually waned. (Even the post match thread on Charkton not606 is down from 4 comments to only 2).

What you have got left now broadly speaking are three groups of fans; those who see supporting Charlton as a way of life, same seat on match days etc, those who enjoy all of the superfluous stuff that gets them noticed around the club, and a few who cling on in the hope that on field fortunes will eventually turn in our favour.

It all comes back to the pizazz that a bit of quality and success brings with it. One of the best away atmospheres in recent years was at Blackburn away in our first game in the *Championship*. Despite the long journey, we had a big away following that afternoon that made a lot of noise in the covered end at Ewood Park. A Conor Gallagher inspired team saw us win that afternoon with an inspired Lyle Taylor backheeled finish in front of our fans.

What we wouldn’t give for that standard of player & excitement again 👍.

Give us an exciting quality team to support, and the numbers will follow. Keep bluffing us with the likes of Edun, Tennai and Tedic, and don’t be surprised that only 6,000 rock up.

PS - It would be great to sign Small on a long term deal this Summer, but I’d imagine there will now be fierce competition for his signature.

[webbo]

Not bored, but still worried about relegation until we are totally safe.

[kings hill addick]

Mar 20, 2024 21:58:37 GMT aucklandaddick said:

Mar 20, 2024 19:52:05 GMT newyorkaddick said:

Yes, me too although think I may just be losing interest in football generally.....think we effectively secured safety at Cheltenham and haven't watched any games (streams) since and won't watch any more this season.

Obviously Jones has had a positive impact but results are hardly exceptional (3 wins in 9) and we're miles off an automatic promotion push next season.

I think the time  to truly judge Jones is when he has his own side out there, this current squad is Scott’s and it is patently clear that Jones doesn’t rate that many of them hence sticking virtually to the same 12 or 13 players each game

Jones brought in Small who IMO is far too good for league one, I am pretty excited to see what other talents he brings in during the summer

To be fair, some of the players were signed by Sandgaard. We have moved some of those on but the ones that we really want out the door are legacy signings by the R&R fool.

[garrynelson]

Mar 21, 2024 8:54:57 GMT webbo said:

Not bored, but still worried about relegation until we are totally safe.

But significantly less worried than a month ago

[valley]

[bexleyboy]

Mar 19, 2024 19:23:28 GMT massivebeak said:

Yeah I was thinking this earlier, I never really expected us to get relegated and now we’re secure it’s all a little flat. Just want the season over so Jones can start rebuilding.

Never expected or believed we were in a relegation fight .. knew once a few injuries come back and the Jan signings had 2:3 weeks settling period that we would climb the table .. we never did drop into the bottom 4 …. People suddenly think that bottom 4 teams are going to win 4/5 games on the trot that’s never going to happen that’s why there bottom 4 ..

[bigandy99]

Mar 19, 2024 22:06:09 GMT keepthefaith said:

Said to my old man literally yesterday (again) that I can't wait for this season to be done

Remember the off season is a long 10 weeks or so!

[valley]

We never won for 15 matches not a good season.