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Post by sittingbourne11 on Feb 25, 2024 9:25:53 GMT
I can’t see Leaburn being here at the start of the season so you can take him out of the 8 .
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Post by seriouslyred on Feb 25, 2024 11:13:10 GMT
Fair enough but we do have a few players that have played for clubs that finished in the top six, and a few that have, already, played in the Championship. Very true but now they aren't setting the world alight in a struggling L1 team facing relegation. On the bright side we may have a couple of elite players when in L2. We will surely be in a better place to judge at the end of March, ideally after a win or two. We don't know who Jones will prefer in midfield as we aren't yet a mid-table side when it comes to creating chances, let alone top six elite! It's a given that there will be eight Academy players in the squad. And only a handful of the fifteen players that Jones selects regularly are out of contract thus summer. Therefore we might discount those who don't appear at all, then assess that 15 after a few more games. As for League Two? Until we're one of the bookies favourites for the drop why consider that possibility. Yes, we've gone a long time without a win. But we've now gone three unbeaten and are looking better already. |
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Feb 25, 2024 12:10:19 GMT
Very true but now they aren't setting the world alight in a struggling L1 team facing relegation. On the bright side we may have a couple of elite players when in L2. We will surely be in a better place to judge at the end of March, ideally after a win or two. We don't know who Jones will prefer in midfield as we aren't yet a mid-table side when it comes to creating chances, let alone top six elite! It's a given that there will be eight Academy players in the squad. And only a handful of the fifteen players that Jones selects regularly are out of contract thus summer. Therefore we might discount those who don't appear at all, then assess that 15 after a few more games. As for League Two? Until we're one of the bookies favourites for the drop why consider that possibility. Yes, we've gone a long time without a win. But we've now gone three unbeaten and are looking better already. Most normal fans are considering the possibility of relegation because we sit 20th in the League One table. |
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Post by roburwash on Feb 25, 2024 12:35:56 GMT
We will surely be in a better place to judge at the end of March, ideally after a win or two. We don't know who Jones will prefer in midfield as we aren't yet a mid-table side when it comes to creating chances, let alone top six elite! It's a given that there will be eight Academy players in the squad. And only a handful of the fifteen players that Jones selects regularly are out of contract thus summer. Therefore we might discount those who don't appear at all, then assess that 15 after a few more games. As for League Two? Until we're one of the bookies favourites for the drop why consider that possibility. Yes, we've gone a long time without a win. But we've now gone three unbeaten and are looking better already. Most normal fans are considering the possibility of relegation because we sit 20th in the League One table. With two teams below us with games in hand. |
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Post by clarky on Feb 25, 2024 12:44:44 GMT
Very true but now they aren't setting the world alight in a struggling L1 team facing relegation. On the bright side we may have a couple of elite players when in L2. We will surely be in a better place to judge at the end of March, ideally after a win or two. We don't know who Jones will prefer in midfield as we aren't yet a mid-table side when it comes to creating chances, let alone top six elite! It's a given that there will be eight Academy players in the squad. And only a handful of the fifteen players that Jones selects regularly are out of contract thus summer. Therefore we might discount those who don't appear at all, then assess that 15 after a few more games. As for League Two? Until we're one of the bookies favourites for the drop why consider that possibility. Yes, we've gone a long time without a win. But we've now gone three unbeaten and are looking better already. Why consider it a possibility? Well we are only 20th because two teams below us have games in hand and we are 4 pts off being 19th. No back to back wins all season, one win away from home all season and our first clean sheet for months. Whilst we look better under Jones saying we shouldn't consider relegation is completely deluded. March is a big month but every club in the mix barring us has won games recently and whilst we will pick up points there is nothing to suggest they won't do the same. |
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Post by petetongthereturn on Feb 25, 2024 12:44:45 GMT
If we get relegated does the 8 championship players turn into 8 league 1 players ?
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Post by watameires on Feb 25, 2024 18:52:37 GMT
Very true but now they aren't setting the world alight in a struggling L1 team facing relegation. On the bright side we may have a couple of elite players when in L2. We will surely be in a better place to judge at the end of March, ideally after a win or two. We don't know who Jones will prefer in midfield as we aren't yet a mid-table side when it comes to creating chances, let alone top six elite! It's a given that there will be eight Academy players in the squad. And only a handful of the fifteen players that Jones selects regularly are out of contract thus summer. Therefore we might discount those who don't appear at all, then assess that 15 after a few more games. As for League Two? Until we're one of the bookies favourites for the drop why consider that possibility. Yes, we've gone a long time without a win. But we've now gone three unbeaten and are looking better already. I started to read this and got to the end of the first sentence. I then realised who the author was. I’d rather hear from Bexley as he (very) very occasionally says something of sense and or interest Seriously Boring or Seriously Deluded…? Both! |
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Post by seriouslyred on Feb 25, 2024 20:56:29 GMT
We will surely be in a better place to judge at the end of March, ideally after a win or two. We don't know who Jones will prefer in midfield as we aren't yet a mid-table side when it comes to creating chances, let alone top six elite! It's a given that there will be eight Academy players in the squad. And only a handful of the fifteen players that Jones selects regularly are out of contract thus summer. Therefore we might discount those who don't appear at all, then assess that 15 after a few more games. As for League Two? Until we're one of the bookies favourites for the drop why consider that possibility. Yes, we've gone a long time without a win. But we've now gone three unbeaten and are looking better already. Why consider it a possibility? Well we are only 20th because two teams below us have games in hand and we are 4 pts off being 19th. No back to back wins all season, one win away from home all season and our first clean sheet for months. Whilst we look better under Jones saying we shouldn't consider relegation is completely deluded. March is a big month but every club in the mix barring us has won games recently and whilst we will pick up points there is nothing to suggest they won't do the same. You're right of course as we're in a relegation battle. What I meant was that until we're favourites for relegation why consider the consequences for next season? I realise that's somewhat different to what I wrote - my bad! Yes we're on a point per game which is dire and those games in hand our rivals hold make the situation precarious. The only answer is to win, then win again. Perhaps four or five times. And if we can't win a game then we deserve to go down! So let's cheer on the lads and hope that they and Jones can engineer a win or two in March. |
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Feb 25, 2024 22:26:48 GMT
Why consider it a possibility? Well we are only 20th because two teams below us have games in hand and we are 4 pts off being 19th. No back to back wins all season, one win away from home all season and our first clean sheet for months. Whilst we look better under Jones saying we shouldn't consider relegation is completely deluded. March is a big month but every club in the mix barring us has won games recently and whilst we will pick up points there is nothing to suggest they won't do the same. You're right of course as we're in a relegation battle. What I meant was that until we're favourites for relegation why consider the consequences for next season? I realise that's somewhat different to what I wrote - my bad! Yes we're on a point per game which is dire and those games in hand our rivals hold make the situation precarious. The only answer is to win, then win again. Perhaps four or five times. And if we can't win a game then we deserve to go down! So let's cheer on the lads and hope that they and Jones can engineer a win or two in March. So seriouslyred you are now suggesting we should only consider relegation to Div 4 when the bookies have us as favourites for the drop 😂 If BB is the Daily Star of WUMs, you are the Times Literary Supplement. Both editions are pretty sad, given the predicament the club faces. Just to remind posters more in touch with reality… 20. CAFC played 34 points 34 21. Cheltenham played 32 points 33 22. Port Vale played 32 points 31 I’d say we are pretty much favourites now ? |
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Post by jonkool on Feb 25, 2024 22:57:06 GMT
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Post by Mundell on Feb 25, 2024 23:14:30 GMT
Indeed. Just been looking at that too. Bit surprising isn’t it? The message is that Carlisle and Fleetwood have gone and that there are then seven clubs battling to avoid joining them in the bottom four. Cambridge currently lead that pack of seven, with a circa 80% chance of survival with us ahead of Port Vale, Shrewsbury and Cheltenham with a circa 71% chance of survival. I’d say that’s optimistic from our perspective, but at this stage of the season one or two results can make a big difference to the odds. We just need to win a few games!! |
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Post by jonkool on Feb 26, 2024 18:08:03 GMT
Indeed. Just been looking at that too. Bit surprising isn’t it? The message is that Carlisle and Fleetwood have gone and that there are then seven clubs battling to avoid joining them in the bottom four. Cambridge currently lead that pack of seven, with a circa 80% chance of survival with us ahead of Port Vale, Shrewsbury and Cheltenham with a circa 71% chance of survival. I’d say that’s optimistic from our perspective, but at this stage of the season one or two results can make a big difference to the odds. We just need to win a few games!! Simples peeps! We have three away games up and coming and I would imagine that the gaffer will be going into these games with the attitude that they are all winnable. Whether we achieve this aim is another matter but belief is so important and a competitive performance tomorrow will boost sprits and player attitude. |
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Post by seriouslyred on Feb 26, 2024 19:45:36 GMT
Indeed. Just been looking at that too. Bit surprising isn’t it? The message is that Carlisle and Fleetwood have gone and that there are then seven clubs battling to avoid joining them in the bottom four. Cambridge currently lead that pack of seven, with a circa 80% chance of survival with us ahead of Port Vale, Shrewsbury and Cheltenham with a circa 71% chance of survival. I’d say that’s optimistic from our perspective, but at this stage of the season one or two results can make a big difference to the odds. We just need to win a few games!! Simples peeps! We have three away games up and coming and I would imagine that the gaffer will be going into these games with the attitude that they are all winnable. Whether we achieve this aim is another matter but belief is so important and a competitive performance tomorrow will boost sprits and player attitude. Yes, let's keep it simple. And we just need to win SOME of our remaining fixtures. Par for this end of the table is a point per game, so anything above that is a bonus that eases our concerns. Winning an away game or two in March would be great. Many of us watch the home games live and the aways on a stream so we see everything plus listen to Curbs and Minto opinions. But the bookies odds give us a clear and non-partisan indicator after every round of games. |
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Mar 31, 2024 11:30:19 GMT
Updated, post Nathan Jones upturn:
Elite 8 -
May, Small (hope he signs)
Squad filler 8 -
Gillesphey, REG, Jones, Coventry, Leaburn
Academy 8 -
Kanu, Ness, Mitchell, Asiinwe, Anderson
I’ve omitted Dobson given his contract uncertainty, and I’m not sure we have any loans that we would want to keep ?, although a cheeky 36p bid for Louis Fiorini would be tempting.
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Post by revilo on Mar 31, 2024 12:30:46 GMT
Updated, post Nathan Jones upturn: Elite 8 - May, Small (hope he signs) Squad filler 8 - Gillesphey, REG, Jones, Coventry, Leaburn Academy 8 - Kanu, Ness, Mitchell, Asiinwe, Anderson I’ve omitted Dobson given his contract uncertainty, and I’m not sure we have any loans that we would want to keep ?, although a cheeky 36p bid for Louis Fiorini would be tempting. 36p! More like 3p! |
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Post by clarky on Mar 31, 2024 14:17:20 GMT
Updated, post Nathan Jones upturn: Elite 8 - May, Small (hope he signs) Squad filler 8 - Gillesphey, REG, Jones, Coventry, Leaburn Academy 8 - Kanu, Ness, Mitchell, Asiinwe, Anderson I’ve omitted Dobson given his contract uncertainty, and I’m not sure we have any loans that we would want to keep ?, although a cheeky 36p bid for Louis Fiorini would be tempting. looking at that we are miles off and if you consider Ness who has gone backwards, Mitchell struggling at Colchester and both Asiinwe and Anderson probably needing loans it is even worse. |
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Post by seriouslyred on Mar 31, 2024 15:41:48 GMT
You're right of course as we're in a relegation battle. What I meant was that until we're favourites for relegation why consider the consequences for next season? I realise that's somewhat different to what I wrote - my bad! Yes we're on a point per game which is dire and those games in hand our rivals hold make the situation precarious. The only answer is to win, then win again. Perhaps four or five times. And if we can't win a game then we deserve to go down! So let's cheer on the lads and hope that they and Jones can engineer a win or two in March. So seriouslyred you are now suggesting we should only consider relegation to Div 4 when the bookies have us as favourites for the drop 😂 If BB is the Daily Star of WUMs, you are the Times Literary Supplement. Both editions are pretty sad, given the predicament the club faces. Just to remind posters more in touch with reality… 20. CAFC played 34 points 34 21. Cheltenham played 32 points 33 22. Port Vale played 32 points 31 I’d say we are pretty much favourites now ? That's right: Sufficient until the day is the evil thereof www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/acref/9780198734901.001.0001/acref-9780198734901-e-2167?rskey=hJV0b9&result=1Jones and the squad have now delivered the vital wins required. Ten games have yielded three wins, six draws and a solitary loss. That's mid table form, and we shouldn't expect much different over the final games... 1.5 pts per game. Nothing wrong with accepting where we were a month ago but to have so little faith in Nathan Jones and the players is a tad disappointing. |
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Post by clarky on Mar 31, 2024 22:56:17 GMT
So seriouslyred you are now suggesting we should only consider relegation to Div 4 when the bookies have us as favourites for the drop 😂 If BB is the Daily Star of WUMs, you are the Times Literary Supplement. Both editions are pretty sad, given the predicament the club faces. Just to remind posters more in touch with reality… 20. CAFC played 34 points 34 21. Cheltenham played 32 points 33 22. Port Vale played 32 points 31 I’d say we are pretty much favourites now ? That's right: Sufficient until the day is the evil thereof www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/acref/9780198734901.001.0001/acref-9780198734901-e-2167?rskey=hJV0b9&result=1Jones and the squad have now delivered the vital wins required. Ten games have yielded three wins, six draws and a solitary loss. That's mid table form, and we shouldn't expect much different over the final games... 1.5 pts per game. Nothing wrong with accepting where we were a month ago but to have so little faith in Nathan Jones and the players is a tad disappointing. Jones has no doubt saved our season but in doing so has highlighted how far away we are from a promotion building team, the last two games have proved that. If we want automatic promotion next season there aren't many of the current crop who are wow factors. Apart from May and Small maybe Ramsey if any of them wanted to leave I'm not sure I would be that disappointed. And without starting the whole Dobson debacle again the last games Coventry has played shows he is not the answer once Dobbo leaves. |
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Apr 14, 2024 11:43:30 GMT
Based on performances since Nathan Jones took over, how does our strongest starting X1 for August currently look, who makes the cut, and how many vacancies are there ?
Assuming that we line up 3-5-2 in our opening league game in August v Millwall, and that GD somehow stays.
Vacancy
Jones Vacancy Vacancy
Ramsey Small
Coventry /Dobson Vacancy Vacancy
May Vacancy
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Post by surridgecobbler5 on Apr 14, 2024 12:12:55 GMT
With Nathan Jones onboard is the 8 8 8 strategy even valid anymore ?
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Post by surridgecobbler5 on Apr 14, 2024 12:14:52 GMT
With Nathan Jones onboard is the 8 8 8 strategy even valid anymore ?
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Post by crapgame on Apr 14, 2024 12:28:27 GMT
Based on performances since Nathan Jones took over, how does our strongest starting X1 for August currently look, who makes the cut, and how many vacancies are there ? Assuming that we line up 3-5-2 in our opening league game in August v Millwall, and that GD somehow stays. Vacancy Jones Vacancy Vacancy Ramsey Small Coventry /Dobson Vacancy Vacancy May Vacancy I think you are about right tbh. If Leaburn is fit, then he could make the other striker but he is still very young and inexperienced. I think REG might be one also, he could be someone who will look better with other 'better' players around him. Personally, I would target a goalkeeper as a priority and make sure he is one that would fit into the 'elite' 8 i.e A keeper that is championship ready. |
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