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Post by willett on Feb 11, 2024 10:38:31 GMT
Losing two of our three best players in CBT & Dobson.
Losing our only genuine Number 10 in Scott Fraser.
What does everyone reckon?
P.S. Apologies for the spelling on the thread title.
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Post by valley on Feb 11, 2024 10:47:54 GMT
100 per cent.
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Post by aaronaldo on Feb 11, 2024 10:50:50 GMT
Attacking and creativity wise, 100%.
Everyone we’ve bought needs time to get fit. We don’t really have that time.
Letting Fraser go when you’re literally trying to sign a 10… I just don’t get it.
Andy is looking absolutely clueless to me. A gambler
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Post by reamsofverse on Feb 11, 2024 10:53:46 GMT
Losing two of our three best players in CBT & Dobson. Losing our only genuine Number 10 in Scott Fraser. What does everyone reckon? P.S. Apologies for the spelling on the thread title. I saw all of this coming to be honest and posted my concerns on here many a time. My personal opinio on Scott Fraser is well known. In his place now we have Bakinsin! I was very vocal about fans here there and everywhere saliving over the possibility of signing Ladapo, I said he's finished and a player going backwards. Replacing CBT with Edun is just sheer madness. Connor Coventry has been a disappointment so far and despite me saying we woulden't it's taken two games to show that we are missing Dobson. The 3-5-2 just cannot work without midfielders who are good enough. Coventry and Bakinson were the double pivot yesterday with Louis Watson as the 10. I'm sure Connor will come good but the other two just aren't good wnough. We need goals from modfield and there is NONE in the five who started yesterday. I am extremely concerned and very angry. There are half 6-8 L2 sides who are better than us right now and that is just not acceptable.
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Post by eric on Feb 11, 2024 10:55:58 GMT
Without doubt. We have sold our best two players CBT and Dobson but at least we kept hold of May and signed a bag of shit . Ramsey looked good in his cameo against Derby and maybe Small will be decent. Can’t say much about the new keeper as I doubt he’ll play much . The other six signings have been a huge disappointment and don’t have the quality to keep us up . We need Camara , Aneke and to a lesser extent Hector to stay fit otherwise I fear the worst .
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Post by stu2020 on Feb 11, 2024 10:55:58 GMT
I agree on Fraser, never felt he was played in a way to reach his potential
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Feb 11, 2024 10:57:07 GMT
Losing two of our three best players in CBT & Dobson. Losing our only genuine Number 10 in Scott Fraser. What does everyone reckon? P.S. Apologies for the spelling on the thread title. I saw all of this coming to be honest and posted my concerns on here many a time. My personal opinio on Coventry is certainly not an upgrade on George Dobson, he can’t even deliver a dead ball. Hard to escape the impression that Andy Scott was given a decent budget by the investors in January, and has spaffed it again. Bakinson 🤦♂️ Gillesphey ? 🤔
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Feb 15, 2024 6:58:24 GMT
Losing two of our three best players in CBT & Dobson. Losing our only genuine Number 10 in Scott Fraser. What does everyone reckon? P.S. Apologies for the spelling on the thread title. I saw all of this coming to be honest and posted my concerns on here many a time. My personal opinio on Scott Fraser is well known. In his place now we have Bakinsin! I was very vocal about fans here there and everywhere saliving over the possibility of signing Ladapo, I said he's finished and a player going backwards. Replacing CBT with Edun is just sheer madness. Connor Coventry has been a disappointment so far and despite me saying we woulden't it's taken two games to show that we are missing Dobson. The 3-5-2 just cannot work without midfielders who are good enough. Coventry and Bakinson were the double pivot yesterday with Louis Watson as the 10. I'm sure Connor will come good but the other two just aren't good wnough. We need goals from modfield and there is NONE in the five who started yesterday. I am extremely concerned and very angry. There are half 6-8 L2 sides who are better than us right now and that is just not acceptable. You were very positive about Connor Coventry Paul, as were many others, presumably based on West Ham retaining him on a contract for so long. Some will say it’s early days, and that’s true, but based on what I have seen of CC live, he’s nothing special. He’s not no tricks, he’s not fast & he’s very poor with set pieces. I’m assuming his USP is as a box to box midfielder, and that we will hopefully see better from him when he gets fully match fit. Gillesphey is another who has looked *nothing special* so far, and hopefully falls into the same category as CC as in needing to get properly match fit. Of the other deadline signings, Ladapo partly redeemed a poor start with his goal on Tuesday night. Bakinson looks like a back up DM for George Dobson at best, and Fiorini looks an out and out dud. Too early to judge Edwardes, Small & Ramsay, although I like the look of the latter. For a team that already struggled to score goals, it was suicide not to replace CBT in January.
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Post by bexleyboy on Feb 15, 2024 9:14:33 GMT
No
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Post by seriouslyred on Feb 15, 2024 9:42:58 GMT
I saw all of this coming to be honest and posted my concerns on here many a time. My personal opinio on Scott Fraser is well known. In his place now we have Bakinsin! I was very vocal about fans here there and everywhere saliving over the possibility of signing Ladapo, I said he's finished and a player going backwards. Replacing CBT with Edun is just sheer madness. Connor Coventry has been a disappointment so far and despite me saying we woulden't it's taken two games to show that we are missing Dobson. The 3-5-2 just cannot work without midfielders who are good enough. Coventry and Bakinson were the double pivot yesterday with Louis Watson as the 10. I'm sure Connor will come good but the other two just aren't good wnough. We need goals from modfield and there is NONE in the five who started yesterday. I am extremely concerned and very angry. There are half 6-8 L2 sides who are better than us right now and that is just not acceptable. You were very positive about Connor Coventry Paul, as were many others, presumably based on West Ham retaining him on a contract for so long. Some will say it’s early days, and that’s true, but based on what I have seen of CC live, he’s nothing special. He’s not no tricks, he’s not fast & he’s very poor with set pieces. I’m assuming his USP is as a box to box midfielder, and that we will hopefully see better from him when he gets fully match fit. Gillesphey is another who has looked *nothing special* so far, and hopefully falls into the same category as CC as in needing to get properly match fit. Of the other deadline signings, Ladapo partly redeemed a poor start with his goal on Tuesday night. Bakinson looks like a back up DM for George Dobson at best, and Fiorini looks an out and out dud. Too early to judge Edwardes, Small & Ramsay, although I like the look of the latter. For a team that already struggled to score goals, it was suicide not to replace CBT in January. Here's the thing: CBT wasn't replaced with another winger because they decided to switch to a 3-5-2. And Tennai Watson had a good game the other night at left wing back by all accounts. Through a mix of the window, a new formation, and securing the services of Nathan Jones, everything has changed! So it might take some time to reach a conclusion as to whether we have improved or become worse. New choice of No.1 keeper Three at the back fairly sound - to early to tell what the best combination is. Likewise, who plays centre mid? We now have four strikers available for two slots, albeit never more than 30 minutes for Chuks. Why not give it a few games to evaluate the players, system and management? Perhaps wait to see Hector play in a three? As well as watching the games in March once Jones has had a few weeks to instill his approach. None of this changes the very real threat of CAFC joining the bottom three in a trip to League Two. But it is what it is. Let's look forward to our first win, and at the same time leave it to the owners / investors to shape the approach to 2024/25.
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Post by watameires on Feb 15, 2024 11:22:23 GMT
Too early to say but a few duds look to have been brought in
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Post by se7sm on Feb 15, 2024 11:47:22 GMT
Haven’t got to be a genius to answer This question 3 points from 27 say no more.
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Post by clarky on Feb 15, 2024 12:03:45 GMT
You were very positive about Connor Coventry Paul, as were many others, presumably based on West Ham retaining him on a contract for so long. Some will say it’s early days, and that’s true, but based on what I have seen of CC live, he’s nothing special. He’s not no tricks, he’s not fast & he’s very poor with set pieces. I’m assuming his USP is as a box to box midfielder, and that we will hopefully see better from him when he gets fully match fit. Gillesphey is another who has looked *nothing special* so far, and hopefully falls into the same category as CC as in needing to get properly match fit. Of the other deadline signings, Ladapo partly redeemed a poor start with his goal on Tuesday night. Bakinson looks like a back up DM for George Dobson at best, and Fiorini looks an out and out dud. Too early to judge Edwardes, Small & Ramsay, although I like the look of the latter. For a team that already struggled to score goals, it was suicide not to replace CBT in January. Here's the thing: CBT wasn't replaced with another winger because they decided to switch to a 3-5-2. And Tennai Watson had a good game the other night at left wing back by all accounts. Through a mix of the window, a new formation, and securing the services of Nathan Jones, everything has changed! So it might take some time to reach a conclusion as to whether we have improved or become worse. New choice of No.1 keeper Three at the back fairly sound - to early to tell what the best combination is. Likewise, who plays centre mid? We now have four strikers available for two slots, albeit never more than 30 minutes for Chuks. Why not give it a few games to evaluate the players, system and management? Perhaps wait to see Hector play in a three? As well as watching the games in March once Jones has had a few weeks to instill his approach. None of this changes the very real threat of CAFC joining the bottom three in a trip to League Two. But it is what it is. Let's look forward to our first win, and at the same time leave it to the owners / investors to shape the approach to 2024/25. I agree we have changed the system so replacing CBT with another winger wasn't an issue. What was an issue was that in losing CBT we lost speed and creativity and that hasn't been replaced. Anybody can see there is no link up play between the midfield and the the two upfront so losing Fraser and not replacing him is just as bad.
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Post by seriouslyred on Feb 15, 2024 12:24:20 GMT
Here's the thing: CBT wasn't replaced with another winger because they decided to switch to a 3-5-2. And Tennai Watson had a good game the other night at left wing back by all accounts. Through a mix of the window, a new formation, and securing the services of Nathan Jones, everything has changed! So it might take some time to reach a conclusion as to whether we have improved or become worse. New choice of No.1 keeper Three at the back fairly sound - to early to tell what the best combination is. Likewise, who plays centre mid? We now have four strikers available for two slots, albeit never more than 30 minutes for Chuks. Why not give it a few games to evaluate the players, system and management? Perhaps wait to see Hector play in a three? As well as watching the games in March once Jones has had a few weeks to instill his approach. None of this changes the very real threat of CAFC joining the bottom three in a trip to League Two. But it is what it is. Let's look forward to our first win, and at the same time leave it to the owners / investors to shape the approach to 2024/25. I agree we have changed the system so replacing CBT with another winger wasn't an issue. What was an issue was that in losing CBT we lost speed and creativity and that hasn't been replaced. Anybody can see there is no link up play between the midfield and the the two upfront so losing Fraser and not replacing him is just as bad. 100% agree that we need to see improvement in the midfield so as to provide opportunities to the forwards - from the left, right, and through the middle. There's a massive difference between creating eight or nine chances per game vs 15. Similarly we also need to reduce the number of catastrophic errors at the back as well as number of chances conceded. And that's down to both the back three and the midfield. CBT could be relied upon to beat his man. But perhaps we need to focus upon passing forwards with precision, movement and decision making? Looking forward to seeing what Nathan Jones can do with the resources available.
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Post by AndyAddick on Feb 15, 2024 12:28:52 GMT
You really are a WUM arnt you , pathetic post
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Feb 15, 2024 14:53:48 GMT
The problem with NOT replacing CBT is that it severely limits the choice of formations we can now deploy .
I don’t rate Fraser, but he wasn’t replaced either.
Some are trying to paint lipstick on a pig.
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