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Post by reamsofverse on Feb 3, 2024 20:17:57 GMT
Whether it be Nathan Jones or anyone else, their job is getting made more difficult every time Scott brings in a player.
We have that many defenders/midfielders I can't honestly remember all of their names.
I have never known such a talentless bunch like we have now. We have stopped scoring goals we have a defensive mentality brought about by so many of Scott's signings unfamiliar with attacking football.
I honestly hope Nathan spells it out loud and clear to the board that a technical director is the last thing we need. Scott is a waste of a wage and has to go in my opinion. First Forest now us, he signs anything that moves.
I would like to think that the money that was available for Nombe, JCH, Collins etc has been put on hold because they don't have faith in Scott to spend it wisely.
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Post by aucklandaddick on Feb 3, 2024 20:30:08 GMT
Whether it eb Nathan Jones or anyone else, there job is getting made more difficult every time Scott brings in a player. We have that many defenders/midfielders I can't honestly remember all their names. I have never known such a talentless bunch like we have now. We have stopped scoring goals we have a defensive mentality brought about by so many of Scott's signings unfamiliar with attacking football. I honestly hope Nathan spells it out loud and clear to the board that a technical director is the last thing we need. Scott is a waste of a wage and has to go in my opinion. First Forest now us, he signs anything that moves. I would like to think that the monet that was available for Nombe, JCH, Collins etc has been put on hold because they don't have faith in Scott to spend it wisely. 100% bang on |
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Post by jonkool on Feb 3, 2024 20:30:10 GMT
Whether it eb Nathan Jones or anyone else, there job is getting made more difficult every time Scott brings in a player. We have that many defenders/midfielders I can't honestly remember all their names. I have never known such a talentless bunch like we have now. We have stopped scoring goals we have a defensive mentality brought about by so many of Scott's signings unfamiliar with attacking football. I honestly hope Nathan spells it out loud and clear to the board that a technical director is the last thing we need. Scott is a waste of a wage and has to go in my opinion. First Forest now us, he signs anything that moves. I would like to think that the monet that was available for Nombe, JCH, Collins etc has been put on hold because they don't have faith in Scott to spend it wisely. Yes! The DofF role is a critical one and the performance of Scott has been lamentable … moving out a winger and a 10 only to flood the squad with defensive midfielders indicates that he has no idea whatsoever in terms of squad construction. He needs to go and it should be now as we want a properly qualified DofF in place in readiness for the summer window. |
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Feb 3, 2024 20:30:38 GMT
A well known and lifelong CAFC fan has just posted a charge sheet against Scott on Twitter.
Can any ITTV member (with one exception, who’s opinion doesn’t count) , disagree with this -
The recent record of our Technical Director 🥁 🥁🥁
1. Ineffective loans
2. Poor culture
3. Worst league position in living memory
4. Sold CBT & didn’t replace him
5. Loaned the two worst players at Man City (Tedic & Fiorini)
6. No win in 13 league games
7. Appointed Appleton
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Post by aucklandaddick on Feb 3, 2024 20:32:46 GMT
A well known and lifelong CAFC fan has just posted a charge sheet against Scott on Twitter. Can any ITTV member (with one exception, who’s opinion doesn’t count) , disagree with this - The recent record of our Technical Director 🥁 🥁🥁 1. Ineffective loans 2. Poor culture 3. Worst league position in living memory 4. Sold CBT & didn’t replace him 5. Loaned the two worst players at Man City (Tedic & Fiorini) 6. No win in 13 league games 7. Appointed Appleton Send this to the American owners👍 But I would have thought they would have sussed this out by now surely 🤔🤔🤔 |
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Post by ExeterAddick on Feb 3, 2024 20:32:59 GMT
Even a child who has dabbled in playing Football Manager knows how to balance a squad better than Andy Scott.
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Post by valley on Feb 3, 2024 20:47:03 GMT
Rather have two strikers on the pitch then cbt.
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Post by reamsofverse on Feb 3, 2024 23:34:39 GMT
Rather have two strikers on the pitch then cbt. We had two today. Neither are very good footballers. Many of Alfies goals have come about from CBT running at the defender and getting crosses in. He's gone and we do not have one wide man on either flank capable of deliverying the same levels of sevice. |
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Post by iomvaliants on Feb 3, 2024 23:40:09 GMT
Yeah its definitely time for him to go
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Post by redplanet on Feb 3, 2024 23:45:42 GMT
Feels like Scott is taking us down.
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Post by lewisham on Feb 4, 2024 1:02:10 GMT
Don't think we'll be able to move on until Scott fucks off, until then we ain't going nowhere
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Post by discocafc on Feb 4, 2024 6:21:03 GMT
I thought the appointment of Appleton was a collective decision between the board and not just Andy Scott himself?
As for the signings I do think it’s too early to criticise Andy Scott. I saw an improvement today, the team looked more enthusiastic and I’m liking 1 or 2 new signings already.
Depending on how long Leaburn is out for I do think we need another Striker to bring in on loan. Kanu isn’t good enough for me and May can play the number 10 role.
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Post by ploppy on Feb 4, 2024 8:49:08 GMT
Who employed Scott? Surely they are culpable?
Even Martin Sanndgard had a better eye for a footballer.
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Feb 4, 2024 9:04:25 GMT
Who employed Scott? Surely they are culpable? Even Martin Sanndgard had a better eye for a footballer. Effectively, Scott employed himself. Charlie Methven, fresh from his triumph at Sunderland, put together a team of “football experts”, two of whom had already palpably failed in their roles at previous clubs. Scott (football) - last managed at Aldershot 9 years ago. Decided by his own admission that he wasn’t cut out to be a manager. Sacked from his HoR role at Forest after he became famous for signing 30 players in about 3 months. Rodwell (CEO/ governance / Boardroom schmoozer) - held previous boardroom jobs at Notts County, Scunthorpe United and Sunderland. At each club he ended up being about as popular as a rattlesnake in a lucky dip. You can begin to understand why. Warrick (finance / property - not an issue, as we don’t own any). The “football experts” then pitched their expertise / master plan to wannabe investors, presumably on the basis of rapid promotions, cost cutting and break even. It’s fair to say that things haven’t worked out for them, although nobody can say that they weren’t warned based on each of their career track records., In order of their sackings at CAFC, my prediction is - 1. Scott 2. Methven (if only because he is so toxic) 3. Rodders |
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Post by ploppy on Feb 4, 2024 9:12:42 GMT
This is from the clubs website July 23
Speaking on behalf of GFP, Charlie Methven said: “Building a first-class Senior Management Team is our number one priority as an ownership group. The role of Technical Director in modern football is essential, as sustainable success is only achieved if the correct structures, processes and culture are put in place throughout the footballing departments.
“In Andy, we have a unique CV: a former Premier League footballer and successful EFL manager, who has then gone on to spend a decade mastering the backroom elements of the industry. During that time, from Brentford to Swansea to Forest, the clubs he has held senior roles in have invariably gone on to benefit significantly from his leadership and judgement. We look forward to him having a powerful impact on Charlton too.”
Bit of a peace in our lifetime type statement eh.?
I don’t get why Charlie gets such an easy ride, he has to go.
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Post by earlpurple on Feb 4, 2024 9:48:10 GMT
Teams to model progress on:
Luton Town (hey that is where Nathan Jones comes in)
Brentford (but they got rid of their academy)
Brighton
Coventry City (don't own their ground but very competitive in the Championship given where they were a few years ago and nearly promoted last season)
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Post by watameires on Feb 4, 2024 10:21:17 GMT
Charlie gets an easy ride as he’s Reams “mate”. He should shut the door after himself and Scott leave
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Post by reamsofverse on Feb 4, 2024 10:56:26 GMT
Charlie gets an easy ride as he’s Reams “mate”. He should shut the door after himself and Scott leave Strange comment. Whern you see him, next ask him about some of the hard hitting texts I send him on messeneger with the last one being about Andy Scott last night. We get on and personally I like the guy but nobody is beyond criticism. |
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Post by ploppy on Feb 4, 2024 12:23:53 GMT
I really can’t see what Scott and Methane actually do. They took a failing league 1 club and have made it even worse. I never thought I’d say this but things were better with Guitar man.
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Post by petetongthereturn on Feb 4, 2024 12:52:51 GMT
I really can’t see what Scott and Methane actually do. They took a failing league 1 club and have made it even worse. I never thought I’d say this but things were better with Guitar man. According to a clubs museum worker someone told him that the major board members were on 10k a month 🫤 surely not. IF that’s the case then the club seems to be being taken advantage again. On Scott he was walking with the main security guy the bald bloke that use to protect the filthy Meire and another security geeza heading towards the side of the club shop. The money men cannot be pleased about the executive board on how things are going. The money men could be owning a league 2 club at the end of the season. |
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Post by petetongthereturn on Feb 4, 2024 12:55:00 GMT
I really can’t see what Scott and Methane actually do. They took a failing league 1 club and have made it even worse. I never thought I’d say this but things were better with Guitar man. To be fair i do sadly miss Addicts to Victory song. |
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Post by Tom1982 on Feb 4, 2024 12:55:53 GMT
No way they’d gooner the geezer on a match day like that unless he’d chinned someone 😂
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Post by reamsofverse on Feb 4, 2024 14:02:51 GMT
Just ben doing some research on Nathan and a year ago when a candidtae for the job at his beloved Cardiff City, he told Walesonline that he was not a fly-by-night manager" and was looking to stay at a club for a long period of time in order to "build" and deliver a project in full. The rest of what he said below, does make you wonder how he and Scott could possibly work together and this might have ben why he was asking for so many assurances. "I'm a builder, I like to build," he said. "I like to be at places for a long time. Ironically, I believe that our work is deep and not just results based. If you look at my previous club we built a club there that wasn't reliant on just a manager being in place, right throughout the processes, the recruitment, the structure, the culture, the philosophy, everything is in place there and has been for a long, long time. I left on two occasions but the club kept doing well, so it shows that whatever had been built had been built on solid foundations" www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/nathan-jones-says-hes-ready-26925965 |
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Feb 4, 2024 14:08:50 GMT
I really can’t see what Scott and Methane actually do. They took a failing league 1 club and have made it even worse. I never thought I’d say this but things were better with Guitar man. According to a clubs museum worker someone told him that the major board members were on 10k a month 🫤 surely not. IF that’s the case then the club seems to be being taken advantage again. On Scott he was walking with the main security guy the bald bloke that use to protect the filthy Meire and another security geeza heading towards the side of the club shop. The money men cannot be pleased about the executive board on how things are going. The money men could be owning a league 2 club at the end of the season. I cannot see any justification for Paul Elliott, his role and his salary, in the current circumstances. “Diversity is in my DNA” is a lovely sound bite in the Guardian, but it’s just rubbing salt in the wounds when you are in a relegation battle to stay out of Div 4. Nobody cares. Spend the money on what is (or should be) important. |
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Post by Bodiam on Feb 4, 2024 15:20:31 GMT
According to a clubs museum worker someone told him that the major board members were on 10k a month 🫤 surely not. IF that’s the case then the club seems to be being taken advantage again. On Scott he was walking with the main security guy the bald bloke that use to protect the filthy Meire and another security geeza heading towards the side of the club shop. The money men cannot be pleased about the executive board on how things are going. The money men could be owning a league 2 club at the end of the season. I cannot see any justification for Paul Elliott, his role and his salary, in the current circumstances. “Diversity is in my DNA” is a lovely sound bite in the Guardian, but it’s just rubbing salt in the wounds when you are in a relegation battle to stay out of Div 4. Nobody cares. Spend the money on what is (or should be) important. Absolutely agree - why on earth we would need a diversity director when we, apart from Crystal Palace, have more black players in our team and academy then any other than you can see on televised games? |
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Post by earlpurple on Feb 4, 2024 16:41:37 GMT
We sign black players when they are good enough, and unfortunately sometimes also when they are not.
I don't care what colour or race they are as long as they are good players and fit in the team.
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Post by seriouslyred on Feb 4, 2024 23:00:05 GMT
Just ben doing some research on Nathan and a year ago when a candidtae for the job at his beloved Cardiff City, he told Walesonline that he was not a fly-by-night manager" and was looking to stay at a club for a long period of time in order to "build" and deliver a project in full. The rest of what he said below, does make you wonder how he and Scott could possibly work together and this might have ben why he was asking for so many assurances. "I'm a builder, I like to build," he said. "I like to be at places for a long time. Ironically, I believe that our work is deep and not just results based. If you look at my previous club we built a club there that wasn't reliant on just a manager being in place, right throughout the processes, the recruitment, the structure, the culture, the philosophy, everything is in place there and has been for a long, long time. I left on two occasions but the club kept doing well, so it shows that whatever had been built had been built on solid foundations" www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/nathan-jones-says-hes-ready-26925965CAFC is certainly in need of a long term rebuild in order to return to the Championship. We have investors and owners prepared to fund and there's a clear enough vision of where we want to be. But that isn't enough! It takes execution. Which is far more complicated than it sounds. Time will tell whether the SMT, Scott, Jones and the new performance director work well together. And while we're at it we need improved commercial revenues and more quality from the Academy. Perhaps there will be changes 24/25? But right now the whole club needs to pull together to secure our first win since late November. |
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Feb 5, 2024 7:31:45 GMT
I cannot see any justification for Paul Elliott, his role and his salary, in the current circumstances. “Diversity is in my DNA” is a lovely sound bite in the Guardian, but it’s just rubbing salt in the wounds when you are in a relegation battle to stay out of Div 4. Nobody cares. Spend the money on what is (or should be) important. Absolutely agree - why on earth we would need a diversity director when we, apart from Crystal Palace, have more black players in our team and academy then any other than you can see on televised games? The Royal Borough of Greenwich , Charlton, Woolwich, Thanesmead, Plumstead etc have changed dramatically over the last 40 years, and many would argue not for the better in terms of crime and overall tattiness. Elliott has said that his role involves reaching out to the new communities in our catchment area, but there is absolutely nothing to stop anyone paying their £27 to come and watch Charlton now. You don’t need a Diversity Director on a large salary for this. This issue is far from unique to Charlton . West Ham Utd saw exactly the same, as Canning Town / Stratford / Bethnal Green etc changed , and many of their traditional supporters left East London for Essex. |
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Post by clarky on Feb 5, 2024 12:44:51 GMT
Absolutely agree - why on earth we would need a diversity director when we, apart from Crystal Palace, have more black players in our team and academy then any other than you can see on televised games? The Royal Borough of Greenwich , Charlton, Woolwich, Thanesmead, Plumstead etc have changed dramatically over the last 40 years, and many would argue not for the better in terms of crime and overall tattiness. Elliott has said that his role involves reaching out to the new communities in our catchment area, but there is absolutely nothing to stop anyone paying their £27 to come and watch Charlton now. You don’t need a Diversity Director on a large salary for this. This issue is far from unique to Charlton . West Ham Utd saw exactly the same, as Canning Town / Stratford / Bethnal Green etc changed , and many of their traditional supporters left East London for Essex. Under TS we were constantly reaching out to the catchment area by making free tickets available and even he realised you didn't need a Diversity Director to make that happen. |
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Apr 1, 2024 17:05:54 GMT
I’d like to ask Andy Scott how he’s allowed a situation to arise whereby, after 41 games of the season, we have no width or pace out wide in the team, no Number 10 to link the hopeless midfield with the attack, and yet roughly 8 midfielders at the last count who do the same job, 4 of whom are invisible (Louie and Teddy Taylor, Fiorini and Camara) and another who is knackered having been scandalously overplayed thru necessity (Karoy).
CBT wasn’t replaced in January from an already weak as piss team, and although Fraser wasn’t a fantastic No.10, nobody who has seen Bakinson / Coventry think they are a natural creator.
The strong suspicion, based on the evidence above, is that Scott couldn’t build a sandcastle, let alone a promotion squad.
Can anyone defend the job Scott had done in putting this squad together ?
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