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Post by willett on Jan 20, 2024 22:11:58 GMT
Don’t think it’s as far-fetched as some think/believe.
We’re on an absolutely abysmal run. We’ve got a manager with no passion/tactics.
We’ve got no leader on the pitch.
We’ve barely got a creative player.
We’ve got the worst set of full-backs we’ve had for years.
We’ve lost our key creative/attacking player (CBT).
Could the unthinkable actually happen?
When & How will we get the point we need?
Hopefully this thread gets some healthy/realistic debate.
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Post by watameires on Jan 20, 2024 22:31:40 GMT
Yes we can but unlikely
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Post by pardew123 on Jan 20, 2024 22:34:20 GMT
Of course we can we’re in free fall have horrible games left the teams below have games in hand.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 20, 2024 22:41:22 GMT
Absolutely. Dropping like a stone and will continue to do so until Appleton is sacked. Whoever appointed him needs dragging over the coals too. It's just not good enough.
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Post by norfolkrobin on Jan 20, 2024 22:50:20 GMT
Yes....until the rot is addressed.
Confidence is shot,organisation looks non-existent,so I don't think dithering is a real option here.
I'd like to believe SE7 would take the required action ASAP,as throwing away more potential points Tuesday looks likely given today's showing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2024 22:54:32 GMT
Don’t think it’s as far-fetched as some think/believe. We’re on an absolutely abysmal run. We’ve got a manager with no passion/tactics. We’ve got no leader on the pitch. We’ve barely got a creative player. We’ve got the worst set of full-backs we’ve had for years. We’ve lost our key creative/attacking player (CBT). Could the unthinkable actually happen? When & How will we get the point we need? Hopefully this thread gets some healthy/realistic debate. Would be naive to think that relegation isn't a possibility, but realistically there are probably 3 teams worse than us, despite our obvious limitations. For me, it's a no brainer. We've got owner's that appear to be willing to invest more than any of our previous owners over the last 10+ years, but a manager (appointment by the current SMT) that is the problem. A decision needs to be made NOW. Make a statement, get a top manager, and sell the vision to further potential signings. The rebuild for next season can start now.
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Post by bigandy99 on Jan 20, 2024 23:52:01 GMT
100% NO!
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Post by aucklandaddick on Jan 20, 2024 23:58:29 GMT
No because by the end of the window we will have enough quality from incoming players and a new manager who will take us to mid table mediocrity…. Which is better than we are now
Plus the fact there is definitely 4 teams worse than us who will struggle to pick up points for the rest of the season
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Jan 21, 2024 0:06:06 GMT
Ridiculous comment. In February we have Derby home & away, Bolton and Portsmouth. It’s very difficult to see us getting many points from them. We need 6 points next week from Northampton & Blackpool, otherwise there’s every chance we will drop into the relegation zone in Feb.
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Post by bigandy99 on Jan 21, 2024 8:09:37 GMT
Ridiculous comment. In February we have Derby home & away, Bolton and Portsmouth. It’s very difficult to see us getting many points from them. We need 6 points next week from Northampton & Blackpool, otherwise there’s every chance we will drop into the relegation zone in Feb. Nobody gets relegated in January so it’s hardly ridiculous… revisit my belief in April, I suggest..
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Post by DFT on Jan 21, 2024 8:41:45 GMT
Of course it's possible and on our current form quite likely that we will get relegated or at least be in the dogfight right up to the last games.
We need a change of manager now, even someone like Jason Pearce in temporary charge could give us a lift and possibly pick up a few points to get us to safety.
We are in a precarious position.
The players confidence is shot to pieces, the majority of fans have turned against the manager and the atmosphere on Tuesday could be very toxic.
The next few games are potentially the most important in the clubs recent history.
We have never been in the 4th tier but there's a first time for everything!
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Post by revilo on Jan 21, 2024 9:27:08 GMT
Don’t think it’s as far-fetched as some think/believe. We’re on an absolutely abysmal run. We’ve got a manager with no passion/tactics. We’ve got no leader on the pitch. We’ve barely got a creative player. We’ve got the worst set of full-backs we’ve had for years. We’ve lost our key creative/attacking player (CBT). Could the unthinkable actually happen? When & How will we get the point we need? Hopefully this thread gets some healthy/realistic debate. Yes if Appleton stays. No if we invest in a good manager/coach which may mean spending less this transfer window, which is a compromise we need to make.
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Post by manikin on Jan 21, 2024 9:29:05 GMT
With Appleton in charge there's every chance.
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Post by valley on Jan 21, 2024 9:32:19 GMT
With Appleton in charge there's every chance. Yep
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Post by eric on Jan 21, 2024 10:10:49 GMT
We are in free fall under Appleton and looking ahead we have a tough run of fixtures. We could be staring relegation in the face going into March . The SMT are probably hoping the new faces will bed in quickly to avert this crisis but to let the clueless Appleton continue is madness in my view .
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Post by earlpurple on Jan 21, 2024 10:34:42 GMT
As we found out in 2019-20, teams near the bottom can suddenly hit some form and go on a run, and Luton and Barnsley both did so. The team that, at this stage, had probably thought they couldn't possibly go down were Hull but I called them out at the time, and if you recall they finished bottom.
Hull had spent a few seasons in the Premier League and were safely in 8th place after beating Sheffield Wednesday away on 1 January 2020. A poor January transfer window and they won only one more game the rest of the season.
4 teams go down from this league and at present Fleetwood, Carlisle, Cheltenham and Reading occupy the bottom 4 places. Of those, Cheltenham look the most likely to escape, having won 3 and drawn 1 of their last 5 games.
In team form, we are 2nd from bottom in the past 5 games, and 3rd from bottom in the past 10 games. Fleetwood are bottom in both counts, Carlisle second from bottom in the last 10. Cheltenham are 10th in form over the last 10 games.
We are strengthening our team, but without Corey Blackett-Taylor we are failing to create clear-cut chances so if we are going to let him go now (rather than wait until the end of the transfer window and let him go on a free) we need to find an adequate replacement.
We have brought in a new assistant coach but I think we need to change the head coach too.
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Post by se7sm on Jan 21, 2024 11:37:54 GMT
Definitely on the cards what is it 50+ points to stay up , what we doing just over 1 a game 🙄on average.carry on like this and it will go to the wire .
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Post by LoyalAddick on Jan 21, 2024 12:14:45 GMT
Good possibility if we don't start picking up wins. Few teams below us also have games in hand over us.
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Post by canterburyaddick on Jan 21, 2024 21:02:52 GMT
Of course we could, but it is unlikely after this window. Teams at the top pull away from you if you don't pick up wins, but the bottom teams don't have the same capability and games in hand rarely better their situation. It's always possible until it's not.
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Post by bexleyboy on Jan 21, 2024 22:42:25 GMT
Simple NO
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Post by kings hill addick on Jan 22, 2024 11:36:15 GMT
Of course we could, but it is unlikely after this window. Teams at the top pull away from you if you don't pick up wins, but the bottom teams don't have the same capability and games in hand rarely better their situation. It's always possible until it's not. Indeed. Often games in hand when you're at the bottom is just going to make your goal difference worse. I remember us losing 4-1 to Spurs just before we were relegated from the Premier League and we fell into the bottom three on goal difference.
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Post by roburwash on Jan 22, 2024 12:16:58 GMT
That's the kiss of death, then.
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Post by wellingaddick on Jan 22, 2024 15:21:59 GMT
Right now I can't see where the points are coming from.
Pretty football with no cutting edge, undermined by constant defensive mistakes, isn't midtable obscurity to say the least.
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Post by canterburyaddick on Jan 22, 2024 15:24:43 GMT
Right now I can't see where the points are coming from. Pretty football with no cutting edge, undermined by constant defensive mistakes, isn't midtable obscurity to say the least. I think we would all be happy with mid-table obscurity this season!
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Post by somerton on Jan 22, 2024 17:31:57 GMT
Yes we can, I now look like I was optimistic in August when I predicted a 15th to 17th place finish.
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Post by returnofpiestalker on Jan 22, 2024 17:39:47 GMT
I always worked on the premise that there are at least 5 teams worse than us and that would stop us taking a dive to fourth tier last few seasons.
But this time around we are doing a fantastic impression of a team that others might say that of.
Will watch tomorrow with Estrella bated breath - who needs promotion challenges when it’s this exciting.
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Post by manikin on Jan 22, 2024 17:41:56 GMT
If Appleton is still here, most definitely.
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Post by redownunder on Jan 22, 2024 23:34:38 GMT
Personally I can't see it but it is possible given that many of the teams below us have games in hand. We will finish very near the bottom if the current management remains the same. League two could finish us off completely as we could do an Oldham.
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Post by gmantaxi on Jan 23, 2024 18:16:19 GMT
We most definitely can , don’t get how people can still say otherwise, you can’t keep losing game after game and expect anything else Surely, was gonna go tonight but just can’t be bothered fully expecting another gutless defeat
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2024 21:52:34 GMT
I'm genuinely starting to think we're going to get relegated.
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