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Post by Occam’s Razor on Apr 16, 2024 18:47:28 GMT
I also thought of Elliott Lee. He struggled big time for us, it wouldn’t surprise me if Wrexham moved him on this Summer. I also heard Micheal Brown being fairly critical of John Mullin and his limitations, it will be interesting to see how he fares in L1. It’s going to be a very competitive League One next season - Charlton , big spending Wrexham, and possibly Sheffield Wednesday and Birmingham City. And hopefully …Millwall. I have been speding the last few days welcoming Wrexham fans to L1 with a light friendly warning! It's simple really and it goes like this. When in the National League they put together a team of L1 players to get them out of it and to take on L2. They succeeded but when you do that, as ours did on last two occasions we went up, the squad is then broken up because successful one's only have a two year shelf life. What they have now is L1 standard players playing in L1 and that won't be good enough for the owners. I argue that Mullin has never played in L1 and in comparison Alfie May has scored 20+ goals three seasons running. The last time he went up from L2 with Cambridge he didn't fancy the higher level and instead opted for two divisions lower on big money at a club close to his Liverpool home. The majority of those L1 players they signed couldn't get in the side of the L1 clubs they were at, at the time, players like Andy Cannon for example and Ollie Palmer. They will spend alright but they won't break into the top six in my opinion and besides that they won't be the draw they were in the lower leagues for some of their summer targets because there are bigger clubs with bigger stadiums and fanbases. You ahve to admire what they have changed but I cannot stand the owners who just don't acknowledge the clubs rich history like the glory years of the early and mid-90's when my Dad captained them for seven years. The only piece of history they allude to is Mickey Thomas' goal against Arsenal. My other gripe is where were all these fans when the club needed them three years ago? I have been a Charlton fan for 40 years and seen a few promotions in my time aswell as relegations and the fact I point out to Wrexham fans I know is in comparison Wrexham have 8000 new fans who have jumped on the bandwagon and seen two promotions in the two years they have become 'new' fans. I'll probably come down with a few and hire a box when we play them but I hope we smash them to pieces. No longer the club I grew up loving from the age of 5 to 12. Boyhood memories that noene of these new plastics will ever have. Out of interest, where have Wrexham’s 8,000 new fans come from ? I assume the club has heavily marketed the local town itself ? |
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Post by norfolkrobin on Apr 16, 2024 19:01:54 GMT
I have been speding the last few days welcoming Wrexham fans to L1 with a light friendly warning! It's simple really and it goes like this. When in the National League they put together a team of L1 players to get them out of it and to take on L2. They succeeded but when you do that, as ours did on last two occasions we went up, the squad is then broken up because successful one's only have a two year shelf life. What they have now is L1 standard players playing in L1 and that won't be good enough for the owners. I argue that Mullin has never played in L1 and in comparison Alfie May has scored 20+ goals three seasons running. The last time he went up from L2 with Cambridge he didn't fancy the higher level and instead opted for two divisions lower on big money at a club close to his Liverpool home. The majority of those L1 players they signed couldn't get in the side of the L1 clubs they were at, at the time, players like Andy Cannon for example and Ollie Palmer. They will spend alright but they won't break into the top six in my opinion and besides that they won't be the draw they were in the lower leagues for some of their summer targets because there are bigger clubs with bigger stadiums and fanbases. You ahve to admire what they have changed but I cannot stand the owners who just don't acknowledge the clubs rich history like the glory years of the early and mid-90's when my Dad captained them for seven years. The only piece of history they allude to is Mickey Thomas' goal against Arsenal. My other gripe is where were all these fans when the club needed them three years ago? I have been a Charlton fan for 40 years and seen a few promotions in my time aswell as relegations and the fact I point out to Wrexham fans I know is in comparison Wrexham have 8000 new fans who have jumped on the bandwagon and seen two promotions in the two years they have become 'new' fans. I'll probably come down with a few and hire a box when we play them but I hope we smash them to pieces. No longer the club I grew up loving from the age of 5 to 12. Boyhood memories that noene of these new plastics will ever have. Out of interest, where have Wrexham’s 8,000 new fans come from ? I assume the club has heavily marketed the local town itself ? Reams,what is the feeling towards day trippers? Is the exposure given by the Welcome to Wrexham show seen as a double edge sword? The local economy must love it,but are the loyal hardcore tiring of it? I know you can't speak for everyone of course,but curious to hear your thoughts. |
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Post by seriouslyred on Apr 17, 2024 16:03:13 GMT
I also thought of Elliott Lee. He struggled big time for us, it wouldn’t surprise me if Wrexham moved him on this Summer. I also heard Micheal Brown being fairly critical of John Mullin and his limitations, it will be interesting to see how he fares in L1. It’s going to be a very competitive League One next season - Charlton , big spending Wrexham, and possibly Sheffield Wednesday and Birmingham City. And hopefully …Millwall. I have been speding the last few days welcoming Wrexham fans to L1 with a light friendly warning! It's simple really and it goes like this. When in the National League they put together a team of L1 players to get them out of it and to take on L2. They succeeded but when you do that, as ours did on last two occasions we went up, the squad is then broken up because successful one's only have a two year shelf life. What they have now is L1 standard players playing in L1 and that won't be good enough for the owners. I argue that Mullin has never played in L1 and in comparison Alfie May has scored 20+ goals three seasons running. The last time he went up from L2 with Cambridge he didn't fancy the higher level and instead opted for two divisions lower on big money at a club close to his Liverpool home. The majority of those L1 players they signed couldn't get in the side of the L1 clubs they were at, at the time, players like Andy Cannon for example and Ollie Palmer. They will spend alright but they won't break into the top six in my opinion and besides that they won't be the draw they were in the lower leagues for some of their summer targets because there are bigger clubs with bigger stadiums and fanbases. You ahve to admire what they have changed but I cannot stand the owners who just don't acknowledge the clubs rich history like the glory years of the early and mid-90's when my Dad captained them for seven years. The only piece of history they allude to is Mickey Thomas' goal against Arsenal. My other gripe is where were all these fans when the club needed them three years ago? I have been a Charlton fan for 40 years and seen a few promotions in my time aswell as relegations and the fact I point out to Wrexham fans I know is in comparison Wrexham have 8000 new fans who have jumped on the bandwagon and seen two promotions in the two years they have become 'new' fans. I'll probably come down with a few and hire a box when we play them but I hope we smash them to pieces. No longer the club I grew up loving from the age of 5 to 12. Boyhood memories that noene of these new plastics will ever have. They do have some L1 players but also a fair few who haven't played / succeeded at this level. One could argue that CAFC has more players capable of assisting a top six finish signed up than Wrexham. Along with a clear idea of what's next. We certainly both have managers who are up for the challenge. And as for "new" or returning fans, we absolutely need them on board for next season. 60% of ticket purchases can be spent on the football wages so we need them turning up sooner rather than later. Looking forward to next season and might even take a trip to the race course?! |
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Post by reamsofverse on Apr 17, 2024 16:30:57 GMT
Out of interest, where have Wrexham’s 8,000 new fans come from ? I assume the club has heavily marketed the local town itself ? Reams,what is the feeling towards day trippers? Is the exposure given by the Welcome to Wrexham show seen as a double edge sword? The local economy must love it,but are the loyal hardcore tiring of it? I know you can't speak for everyone of course,but curious to hear your thoughts. There is quite a bit of anger from long term fans who have supported the club through thick and thin but cannot now get tickets. The stadium currently hols 12500, the away fans are seated in the main stand on the end which houses 1200 if both tiers are occupied. Thye have always had a big fanbase to be honest but with Liverpool 45 minutes away, Manchester 1 hour and the likes of Leeds and Birmingham reachable inside 90 minutes, football fans went off to watch EPL clubs. Many still do but there are thousands of glory hunters that have appeared from nowhere who you would swear have supported the club for decades listening to them. The Turf pub that used to have no more than 50 people on a matchday is now seen as the equivalent of the Cheers Bar in Boston. Honestly Im not joking. People come to see it from across the pond and have a beer in there. It's become iconic and now has a giant burger van outside it and they are currently building quite a large fanzone in the car park and land that has become available while they are waiting for the new 5500 seater Kop stand to be built. You have to admire the owners for what they have done but I don't have to like them and the fact that they are here to draw a line under the clubs history and create their own is sickening for those who were part of it and remember the glory years I mentioned. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Apr 17, 2024 16:39:35 GMT
Out of interest, where have Wrexham’s 8,000 new fans come from ? I assume the club has heavily marketed the local town itself ? Reams,what is the feeling towards day trippers? Is the exposure given by the Welcome to Wrexham show seen as a double edge sword? The local economy must love it,but are the loyal hardcore tiring of it? I know you can't speak for everyone of course,but curious to hear your thoughts. I should have said day trippers would be very lucky to get tickets. After the away end and season ticket holders and members get their share, there are about 300 left each gamne that go on general sale. You can pay £15 each season to become a member instead of buying an ST but then the allocation is balloted on a game by game basis. They have something like 7000 members chasing 3000 tickets each home game and yes you could go through the season without getting one despite paying a membership fee. |
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Post by Mundell on Apr 17, 2024 16:43:37 GMT
I have been speding the last few days welcoming Wrexham fans to L1 with a light friendly warning! It's simple really and it goes like this. When in the National League they put together a team of L1 players to get them out of it and to take on L2. They succeeded but when you do that, as ours did on last two occasions we went up, the squad is then broken up because successful one's only have a two year shelf life. What they have now is L1 standard players playing in L1 and that won't be good enough for the owners. I argue that Mullin has never played in L1 and in comparison Alfie May has scored 20+ goals three seasons running. The last time he went up from L2 with Cambridge he didn't fancy the higher level and instead opted for two divisions lower on big money at a club close to his Liverpool home. The majority of those L1 players they signed couldn't get in the side of the L1 clubs they were at, at the time, players like Andy Cannon for example and Ollie Palmer. They will spend alright but they won't break into the top six in my opinion and besides that they won't be the draw they were in the lower leagues for some of their summer targets because there are bigger clubs with bigger stadiums and fanbases. You ahve to admire what they have changed but I cannot stand the owners who just don't acknowledge the clubs rich history like the glory years of the early and mid-90's when my Dad captained them for seven years. The only piece of history they allude to is Mickey Thomas' goal against Arsenal. My other gripe is where were all these fans when the club needed them three years ago? I have been a Charlton fan for 40 years and seen a few promotions in my time aswell as relegations and the fact I point out to Wrexham fans I know is in comparison Wrexham have 8000 new fans who have jumped on the bandwagon and seen two promotions in the two years they have become 'new' fans. I'll probably come down with a few and hire a box when we play them but I hope we smash them to pieces. No longer the club I grew up loving from the age of 5 to 12. Boyhood memories that noene of these new plastics will ever have. They do have some L1 players but also a fair few who haven't played / succeeded at this level. One could argue that CAFC has more players capable of assisting a top six finish signed up than Wrexham. Along with a clear idea of what's next. We certainly both have managers who are up for the challenge. And as for "new" or returning fans, we absolutely need them on board for next season. 60% of ticket purchases can be spent on the football wages so we need them turning up sooner rather than later. Looking forward to next season and might even take a trip to the race course?! It was clear this time last season once they’d clinched the National League title that Wrexham would be very strong contenders for a second successive promotion. They already had a group of players that were likely to be very effective in League Two. However, I suspect they may find the transition to League One football more challenging. Their revenues, combined with the net worth of their owners, suggest that Wrexham will have money to spend, but they’ll need to spend it well. That’s easier said than done though and while I’ve always been a fan of Phil Parkinson my sense is that he’s had Wrexham playing fairly simple football, hasn’t really got more out of his squad than a simple sum of the parts, relying instead on the fact that over the last two seasons they’ve simply had better players than their opponents. Having said that though, Parkinson is a very experienced manager, as is Nigel Clough, of course, while Dave Challinor has a very impressive record at unfashionable clubs and a 53.4% win rate across 719 games managed. Wrexham, Mansfield and Stockport are all likely to be tough to play against. |
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Apr 17, 2024 17:28:14 GMT
For some fans, eight seasons in League One has led to them developing a mutant form of Stockholm Syndrome. They have become grateful to their captors, and relishing league games against Stockport County has now become the norm.
Such fans will be poring over the League Two table as we speak, and foaming at the mouthwatering prospect of two league games against Barrow next season, assuming the Cumbrian giants manage to negotiate the Play Offs.
All of this in the same week that a league club who genuinely are the same size as us, and up until recently were one of our peers - Ipswich Town - were valued at an astonishing £260m.
Nowadays the only thing we have in common with ITFC is that we act as a retirement pit stop for their crocked has beens - whatever happened to Camara & Ladapo BTW ?
What did Ipswich, and to a certain extent Wrexham do right ?
They aligned an ambitious owner with a competitive budget, and appointed quality personnel.
We could still be both, but we will get there a lot quicker if a section of our fanbase puts aside their nerdism, and becomes a bit more demanding in terms of focusing on what actually matters next season.
Just my perspective.
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Post by reamsofverse on Apr 17, 2024 18:19:22 GMT
They do have some L1 players but also a fair few who haven't played / succeeded at this level. One could argue that CAFC has more players capable of assisting a top six finish signed up than Wrexham. Along with a clear idea of what's next. We certainly both have managers who are up for the challenge. And as for "new" or returning fans, we absolutely need them on board for next season. 60% of ticket purchases can be spent on the football wages so we need them turning up sooner rather than later. Looking forward to next season and might even take a trip to the race course?! It was clear this time last season once they’d clinched the National League title that Wrexham would be very strong contenders for a second successive promotion. They already had a group of players that were likely to be very effective in League Two. However, I suspect they may find the transition to League One football more challenging. Their revenues, combined with the net worth of their owners, suggest that Wrexham will have money to spend, but they’ll need to spend it well. That’s easier said than done though and while I’ve always been a fan of Phil Parkinson my sense is that he’s had Wrexham playing fairly simple football, hasn’t really got more out of his squad than a simple sum of the parts, relying instead on the fact that over the last two seasons they’ve simply had better players than their opponents. Having said that though, Parkinson is a very experienced manager, as is Nigel Clough, of course, while Dave Challinor has a very impressive record at unfashionable clubs and a 53.4% win rate across 719 games managed. Wrexham, Mansfield and Stockport are all likely to be tough to play against. Very well said Mundell. |
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Post by zipper on Apr 18, 2024 7:27:50 GMT
For me it's just not what these guys have done for the football club, it's the community and the town or now a city.
The improvement with new bars and restraunts is fabulous for the local economy. These guys visit our community projects and help with donations without any publicity. They really are a remarkable pair of guys and we as a city are so proud to have them. They absolutely love the people and I am convinced at some point they may settle here.
Rob and Ryan our Kings
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Apr 18, 2024 7:50:40 GMT
For me it's just not what these guys have done for the football club, it's the community and the town or now a city. The improvement with new bars and restraunts is fabulous for the local economy. These guys visit our community projects and help with donations without any publicity. They really are a remarkable pair of guys and we as a city are so proud to have them. They absolutely love the people and I am convinced at some point they may settle here. Rob and Ryan our Kings To be fair to our owners, they too are looking to increase our club’s popularity in the local community. We have our very own Director of Diversity, who drives his luxury car in from a leafy London suburb every day, and spreads the gospel in scary places like Thamesmead & Abbeywood. |
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Post by watameires on Apr 18, 2024 7:59:48 GMT
For me it's just not what these guys have done for the football club, it's the community and the town or now a city. The improvement with new bars and restraunts is fabulous for the local economy. These guys visit our community projects and help with donations without any publicity. They really are a remarkable pair of guys and we as a city are so proud to have them. They absolutely love the people and I am convinced at some point they may settle here. Rob and Ryan our Kings you think they may settle in Wrexham? Really? Jeez |
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Post by reamsofverse on Apr 18, 2024 12:48:02 GMT
For me it's just not what these guys have done for the football club, it's the community and the town or now a city. The improvement with new bars and restraunts is fabulous for the local economy. These guys visit our community projects and help with donations without any publicity. They really are a remarkable pair of guys and we as a city are so proud to have them. They absolutely love the people and I am convinced at some point they may settle here. Rob and Ryan our Kings The town is a shit hole which is why you go out of it to have a beer or a meal. Have a look around the twon centre during the day and not at night. You will see how far it's gone down hill, that's why all the big brand high street retailers have pulled out of it. I really don't get all this nonesense about what they have done for the town at all mate. |
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Post by seriouslyred on Apr 18, 2024 14:29:36 GMT
For me it's just not what these guys have done for the football club, it's the community and the town or now a city. The improvement with new bars and restraunts is fabulous for the local economy. These guys visit our community projects and help with donations without any publicity. They really are a remarkable pair of guys and we as a city are so proud to have them. They absolutely love the people and I am convinced at some point they may settle here. Rob and Ryan our Kings The town is a shit hole which is why you go out of it to have a beer or a meal. Have a look around the twon centre during the day and not at night. You will see how far it's gone down hill, that's why all the big brand high street retailers have pulled out of it. I really don't get all this nonesense about what they have done for the town at all mate. We've watched both series of Welcome to Wrexham and they were very clear at the start as to why they chose the club and the town. Without getting into the politics, there are vast swathes of the UK (and Europe) which have been left behind as old industries shut whilst the new tech gravitates towards London and University cities. Some US football club owners have bought in at the top as they like the look of the largest sports media deal on the planet. In our case and with Wrexham they've bought in at the ground floor. Our stadium, the leafy suburbs of Greenwich, and City airport just across the river make Charlton somewhat more attractive. But right now both clubs will be competing in the same talent pool, and for a place in the top six next season. |
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Post by zipper on Apr 18, 2024 18:35:51 GMT
For me it's just not what these guys have done for the football club, it's the community and the town or now a city. The improvement with new bars and restraunts is fabulous for the local economy. These guys visit our community projects and help with donations without any publicity. They really are a remarkable pair of guys and we as a city are so proud to have them. They absolutely love the people and I am convinced at some point they may settle here. Rob and Ryan our Kings you think they may settle in Wrexham? Really? Jeez Poss yeh Ryan was looking at a property in Marford 18 months ago, you never know |
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Post by zipper on Apr 18, 2024 18:39:43 GMT
For me it's just not what these guys have done for the football club, it's the community and the town or now a city. The improvement with new bars and restraunts is fabulous for the local economy. These guys visit our community projects and help with donations without any publicity. They really are a remarkable pair of guys and we as a city are so proud to have them. They absolutely love the people and I am convinced at some point they may settle here. Rob and Ryan our Kings The town is a shit hole which is why you go out of it to have a beer or a meal. Have a look around the twon centre during the day and not at night. You will see how far it's gone down hill, that's why all the big brand high street retailers have pulled out of it. I really don't get all this nonesense about what they have done for the town at all mate. Ignorant post tbf. Sarfar the new turkish restraunt ThiaDine new Thai restraunt The Portuguese rest by parish Church you can't get in fab reviews Jay Rayner Vault 33 Neil Roberts and partners new bar. The place is on the up. Been out twice in the town last 4 weeks The place was bouncing |
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Post by zipper on Apr 18, 2024 18:44:50 GMT
For me it's just not what these guys have done for the football club, it's the community and the town or now a city. The improvement with new bars and restraunts is fabulous for the local economy. These guys visit our community projects and help with donations without any publicity. They really are a remarkable pair of guys and we as a city are so proud to have them. They absolutely love the people and I am convinced at some point they may settle here. Rob and Ryan our Kings The town is a shit hole which is why you go out of it to have a beer or a meal. Have a look around the twon centre during the day and not at night. You will see how far it's gone down hill, that's why all the big brand high street retailers have pulled out of it. I really don't get all this nonesense about what they have done for the town at all mate. Wrexham has a very good score on unoccupied retail units. Far better than chester, which is on the slide. Chapter court is now full You do realise Retail out of town parks and on line shopping has killed high streets If you don't get the Ryan and Rob presence suggest you take a trip to the industrial estate and see how many companies are coming with the new development. |
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Post by zipper on Apr 18, 2024 18:52:54 GMT
I have been speding the last few days welcoming Wrexham fans to L1 with a light friendly warning! It's simple really and it goes like this. When in the National League they put together a team of L1 players to get them out of it and to take on L2. They succeeded but when you do that, as ours did on last two occasions we went up, the squad is then broken up because successful one's only have a two year shelf life. What they have now is L1 standard players playing in L1 and that won't be good enough for the owners. I argue that Mullin has never played in L1 and in comparison Alfie May has scored 20+ goals three seasons running. The last time he went up from L2 with Cambridge he didn't fancy the higher level and instead opted for two divisions lower on big money at a club close to his Liverpool home. The majority of those L1 players they signed couldn't get in the side of the L1 clubs they were at, at the time, players like Andy Cannon for example and Ollie Palmer. They will spend alright but they won't break into the top six in my opinion and besides that they won't be the draw they were in the lower leagues for some of their summer targets because there are bigger clubs with bigger stadiums and fanbases. You ahve to admire what they have changed but I cannot stand the owners who just don't acknowledge the clubs rich history like the glory years of the early and mid-90's when my Dad captained them for seven years. The only piece of history they allude to is Mickey Thomas' goal against Arsenal. My other gripe is where were all these fans when the club needed them three years ago? I have been a Charlton fan for 40 years and seen a few promotions in my time aswell as relegations and the fact I point out to Wrexham fans I know is in comparison Wrexham have 8000 new fans who have jumped on the bandwagon and seen two promotions in the two years they have become 'new' fans. I'll probably come down with a few and hire a box when we play them but I hope we smash them to pieces. No longer the club I grew up loving from the age of 5 to 12. Boyhood memories that noene of these new plastics will ever have. Out of interest, where have Wrexham’s 8,000 new fans come from ? I assume the club has heavily marketed the local town itself ? They where getting Ave of 4k before R@R arrived in the near bottom half of the conference league. Always had a decent following, attract fans from all over North Wales, good catchment region. If the ground held 18k next season, it would be full every game. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Apr 18, 2024 19:04:07 GMT
If the ground held that many maybe fans who have been there through thick and thin could get a ticket. 8000 'fans' have only been here five minutes and seen two promotions. If the owners walked away tomorrow and the club were taken over by people these fans had never heard of the plastics would walk away. Their obsession is with the owners not the club.
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Post by zipper on Apr 18, 2024 19:11:46 GMT
If the ground held that many maybe fans who have been there through thick and thin could get a ticket. 8000 'fans' have only been here five minutes and seen two promotions. If the owners walked away tomorrow and the club were taken over by people these fans had never heard of the plastics would walk away. Their obsession is with the owners not the club. Surely that applies to every club in the country. Forget R@R if wrexham got took over by a unknown Aussie and had proper dosh, the impact would be the same. The only difference Wayne in the Turf would not have the yank day trippers wanting a photo. That is down to the series. The club has always been a sleeping giant |
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Post by zipper on Apr 18, 2024 19:17:06 GMT
2012 may
Play off 1st league v Luton
Gate 9,012 Racecourse
Ryan Reynolds at that time was not heard of
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Post by reamsofverse on Apr 18, 2024 19:55:22 GMT
Play-off games normally attract the biggest crowds of the season mate.
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Post by watameires on Apr 18, 2024 19:57:41 GMT
Never heard them be called a sleeping giant 🙄
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Post by zipper on Apr 18, 2024 20:03:58 GMT
Never heard them be called a sleeping giant 🙄 Down to the European hey days and fa cup exploits.... |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Apr 19, 2024 8:46:06 GMT
Never heard them be called a sleeping giant 🙄 Down to the European hey days and fa cup exploits.... I have been intrigued by the whole Wrexham story and happy for all the fans that rocked every week to support them prior to the new owners coming in………but I would never have put them in the sleeping giant bracket……The likes of Derby County yes but Wrexham no….. |
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Post by seriouslyred on Apr 19, 2024 15:03:50 GMT
Down to the European hey days and fa cup exploits.... I have been intrigued by the whole Wrexham story and happy for all the fans that rocked every week to support them prior to the new owners coming in………but I would never have put them in the sleeping giant bracket……The likes of Derby County  yes but Wrexham no….. Where Wrexham, Derby and even ourselves sit in a table of sleeping giants is a moot point. There's an influx of American capital into the UK game, but it's Wrexham who have won two successive promotions whilst accumulating 5M+ followers on social media. FWIW I predict some turbulence and changes at Wrexham should they fail to enter the League One top six at their first attempt. |
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Post by kings hill addick on Apr 19, 2024 15:14:06 GMT
Surely, in order to be a sleeping giant one needs to have been a giant at some point in the past.
Wrexham have never even played in the top flight of English football. Their highest, ever, league finish was 15th in the old Second Division.
They are only famous and successful, now, as they have Movie and TV stars owning them, spending a small fortune on massively over-paid players, and making a TV show.
We think we have a problem moving players on due to their high wages. Wait until they try to move some of their League Two players, earning good Championship money, out of the club.
No doubt the two owners (who have clearly had a charmed life) just assume that they will be at the top of League One next season as everything they touch turns to gold, and always has done. It will be interesting to see what they do if that doesn't happen.
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Post by aucklandaddick on Apr 19, 2024 15:25:36 GMT
Surely, in order to be a sleeping giant one needs to have been a giant at some point in the past. Wrexham have never even played in the top flight of English football. Their highest, ever, league finish was 15th in the old Second Division. They are only famous and successful, now, as they have Movie and TV stars owning them, spending a small fortune on massively over-paid players, and making a TV show. We think we have a problem moving players on due to their high wages. Wait until they try to move some of their League Two players, earning good Championship money, out of the club. No doubt the two owners (who have clearly had a charmed life) just assume that they will be at the top of League One next season as everything they touch turns to gold, and always has done. It will be interesting to see what they do if that doesn't happen. Yep, bang on, players that were ok but really didn’t excel at our club in O’Connell and Lee have done really well for them at league two level…..but now it is a step up, have these players really improved to be league one promotion players and I bet they are being paid really well for playing at that league two level it’s going to be interesting if they feel they need better players to progress, what happens to the players left in the slipstream still on decent money……… |
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Post by aaronaldo on Apr 19, 2024 15:32:52 GMT
Are they really on such big wages?
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Post by aucklandaddick on Apr 19, 2024 15:47:58 GMT
Are they really on such big wages? Well O’Connell and Lee had no qualms about jumping ship as quick as they could down to the Conference to join the party…..so would imagine money must have paid a big part on this, why else would you drop down two leagues unless financially incentivised to do so |
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Post by seriouslyred on Apr 19, 2024 15:56:09 GMT
Surely, in order to be a sleeping giant one needs to have been a giant at some point in the past. Wrexham have never even played in the top flight of English football. Their highest, ever, league finish was 15th in the old Second Division. They are only famous and successful, now, as they have Movie and TV stars owning them, spending a small fortune on massively over-paid players, and making a TV show. We think we have a problem moving players on due to their high wages. Wait until they try to move some of their League Two players, earning good Championship money, out of the club. No doubt the two owners (who have clearly had a charmed life) just assume that they will be at the top of League One next season as everything they touch turns to gold, and always has done. It will be interesting to see what they do if that doesn't happen. Yep, bang on, players that were ok but really didn’t excel at our club in O’Connell and Lee have done really well for them at league two level…..but now it is a step up, have these players really improved to be league one promotion players and I bet they are being paid really well for playing at that league two level it’s going to be interesting if they feel they need better players to progress, what happens to the players left in the slipstream still on decent money……… Many players securing promotion should be good enough to hold their own the following season. But how many Wrexham players are good enough for the top six of League One. And how many who don't make the grade are on long term deals. We've been fortunate enough to despatch the 2022 squad which SE7 inherited and are gently replacing it this year now that SE7 / GFP have 100% control. Wrexham have Championship level revenues so can bring in the new... as you say, what happens to those rejected, and how quickly can they be moved on? Watching the first few episodes of W2W, those who failed to make the play-offs a few months after their takeover were moved on about five minutes after their final game that season. So perhaps the existing squad need to be seen to fail first?! For the executives and management at Wrexham have convinced the owners to sign these players... committing to a playing budget similar to ours. |
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