Who would accept?

[valley]

The charlton manager job until the end of the season? If Appleton goes.

[aaronaldo]

Dec 30, 2023 18:33:46 GMT valley said:

The charlton manager job until the end of the season? If Appleton goes.

Easy. No one good.

The most desperate manager. Unlikely to be better than Appleton.

[willett]

The front-runners would likely be Lee Johnson & Neil Lennon.

[aaronaldo]

Dec 30, 2023 21:13:57 GMT willett said:

The front-runners would likely be Lee Johnson & Neil Lennon.

Oh joy. Appleton is looking more appealing now. Let’s give him more time and some good players!

[huddy1978]

I know it won't happen but I would have Bowyer back, I'm a sucker for an ex player who knows what it means to play for our great club!.

Although he had a good team he got us promoted with a smaller squad, and I don't think we believed it was a great team at the time.

Also I can't remember him having any money at all to spend, apart from the loans which worked out well.

[995632]

Dec 31, 2023 15:55:59 GMT huddy1978 said:

I know it won't happen but I would have Bowyer back, I'm a sucker for an ex player who knows what it means to play for our great club!.

Although he had a good team he got us promoted with a smaller squad, and I don't think we believed it was a great team at the time.

Also I can't remember him having any money at all to spend, apart from the loans which worked out well.

Why do you want him back when he jumped ship and abandoned us?

Before he left it was pretty toxic with him allegedly slagging off players and creating a rather toxic dressing room by all accounts... He had an AMAZING team for L1 which we are currently NOWHERE near in terms of ability or application!!

Also, going by the Charltonised Charlton fan logic - "he's done nothing and failed twice in the Championship", "living off that one playoff final with a brilliant squad", "now got his feet up in the Caribbean with an amateur team".

[se7sm]

Everyone goes to work to earn money, stop paying them and see who walks through the gate on Monday it’s a nice bonus if you enjoy your job so pay them the right money anyone you want

[Mundell]

I made the comment below on another thread, 

“  ….. in my view very few managers actually add any real value. Ultimately, they almost all perform to budget and the squad of players available to them. Randomness then plays an important role in who succeeds in any given season.

There are, however, a small number of outstanding managers who do, consistently, deliver more than the sum of the parts. Appleton clearly isn’t one of these, but it’s very difficult to attract one in League One, for obvious reasons. They’re in high demand.

The only way to secure one of the high performers in League One is to gamble on a young and unproven coach. Examples would include Liam Manning (MK Dons, Oxford and now Bristol City), Steven Schumacher (Plymouth Argyle and now Stoke City) and Kieran McKenna (Ipswich Town). However, unproven means high risk and may badly underperform wage budget, failing even to compete with managers in the pack, like Appleton and many others. For every Manning, Schumacher or McKenna, there are probably ten or more Garners.

I’ve always wanted us to appoint a “Liam Manning” type, but such managers are obviously hard to find and we’ve obviously decided not to go that route. Michael Appleton is clearly a “straight bat” appointment and designed to be low risk. He’s not likely to be outstanding, but nor is he likely to flop and underperform a reasonable expectation given his squad.

The club appear to have made the bet that with the right budget (which we’ve been told we’ve got) and the right recruitment he’ll deliver a par outcome which ought to be enough for a playoff place, or better. It’s reasonable to assume too that his reputation as a coach, who will develop and improve players (a long-term strategy), rather than as a motivator/screamer was also a factor in his favour.”

The answer to the question then is relatively simple. A young, ambitious, up and coming coach would accept a job as Head Coach at Charlton, viewing the role as an ideal opportunity to develop and get on the ladder. Such an appointment might, potentially, be high reward but it would also be a risk. As 995632 said above, a hire of this type would be seen by many fans as a “cheap option” and as “demonstrating a lack of ambition”. Alternatively, a more experienced manager or coach who hadn’t made it to or in the Championship would also be attracted to the club because “they need to work somewhere”. Someone like Michael Appleton, in fact.

An established Championship manager, like Gary Rowett isn’t going to join, unless desperate. The pay is likely to be much better in the Championship. 

In short, if Appleton left we’d have no difficulty in finding someone to replace him, but we’d need to be realistic about who that might be. Only an ex Charton player would get the thumbs up from a majority of the club’s fans, but that ought to be a completely irrelevant consideration in any recruitment decision. 

PS My understanding is that we interviewed Nathan Jones when looking for Dean Holden’s replacement but decided not to proceed. It’s interesting that, thus far, nobody else has offered him a job either. 

[smudge7946]

Bowyer or Nigel Atkins just for his go for a walk posts