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Post by LoyalAddick on Jan 15, 2024 12:35:10 GMT
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Post by valleyfaithful on Jan 15, 2024 12:43:23 GMT
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Post by watameires on Jan 15, 2024 12:57:36 GMT
Who recruited these duds?
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Post by ExeterAddick on Jan 15, 2024 13:31:06 GMT
The ever-growing list of failed loanees
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Post by Mundell on Jan 15, 2024 13:49:21 GMT
If there was any question he'd be returning to Wolves then his performance on Saturday put that to bed. It obviously hasn't worked out. However, that doesn't mean it was a poor decision to sign him. There is never going to be any certainty with loans.
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Post by watameires on Jan 15, 2024 14:00:53 GMT
If there was any question he'd be returning to Wolves then his performance on Saturday put that to bed. It obviously hasn't worked out. However, that doesn't mean it was a poor decision to sign him. There is never going to be any certainty with loans. you can say that about each individual loan but when looked at in aggregate you must agree it’s been a dogs dinner? |
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Jan 15, 2024 14:09:46 GMT
If there was any question he'd be returning to Wolves then his performance on Saturday put that to bed. It obviously hasn't worked out. However, that doesn't mean it was a poor decision to sign him. There is never going to be any certainty with loans. Well of course it was a poor decision Look at his stats for goals & assists. Appleton clearly didn’t rate him for a reason. You are at risk of tying yourself in knots here MundellDo all stats count, or only the ones that favour Scott ? |
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Post by aaronaldo on Jan 15, 2024 14:11:49 GMT
If there was any question he'd be returning to Wolves then his performance on Saturday put that to bed. It obviously hasn't worked out. However, that doesn't mean it was a poor decision to sign him. There is never going to be any certainty with loans. you can say that about each individual loan but when looked at in aggregate you must agree it’s been a dogs dinner? How many times do we have to repeat this conversation? Do you and OR just want everyone to agree and pat each other on the back? We are all aware of how bad the recruitment has been. It's not just been the last two windows either! Last summers window was compromised by the takeover. It takes months to line up these sorts of deals (loans and perms) and we didn't have that. Andy was there for January but with the non-existent budget he was given, I'd challenge anyone to get good loans in with that. Can we turn the page now and look at the future? The past has gone. Let's move on to the present / future |
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Post by watameires on Jan 15, 2024 14:13:36 GMT
you can say that about each individual loan but when looked at in aggregate you must agree it’s been a dogs dinner? How many times do we have to repeat this conversation? Do you and OR just want everyone to agree and pat each other on the back? We are all aware of how bad the recruitment has been. It's not just been the last two windows either! Last summers window was compromised by the takeover. It takes months to line up these sorts of deals (loans and perms) and we didn't have that. Andy was there for January but with the non-existent budget he was given, I'd challenge anyone to get good loans in with that. Can we turn the page now and look at the future? The past has gone. Let's move on to the present / future That go for the defence of the dogs dinner as well or just the criticism? |
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Post by Mundell on Jan 15, 2024 14:19:34 GMT
If there was any question he'd be returning to Wolves then his performance on Saturday put that to bed. It obviously hasn't worked out. However, that doesn't mean it was a poor decision to sign him. There is never going to be any certainty with loans. Well of course it was a poor decision Look at his stats for goals & assists. Appleton clearly didn’t rate him for a reason. You are at risk of tying yourself in knots here Mundell Do all stats count, or only the ones that favour Scott ? I'm not tying myself in knots. C Campbell hasn't worked out. I haven't looked at his stats, but I'm sure they will confirm he hasn't delivered. All I'm saying is that you can't always judge the quality of decision making based on outcomes alone. I don't think that's controversial. I don't think I've been defending Andy Scott by the way. Based on the evidence available so far I still think SE7 will prove to be 'good' owners, but as far as Scott is concerned I'd say the jury is out. Members of the ACC may share some 'characteristics' but we don't all have the same views!! |
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Post by seriouslyred on Jan 15, 2024 14:21:09 GMT
If there was any question he'd be returning to Wolves then his performance on Saturday put that to bed. It obviously hasn't worked out. However, that doesn't mean it was a poor decision to sign him. There is never going to be any certainty with loans. you can say that about each individual loan but when looked at in aggregate you must agree it’s been a dogs dinner? We can all agree about it being a dog's dinner. But how much is down to injuries, how much to recruitment and how much is down to coaching and selection. These two and Abankwah have gone back. And we've had a brief glimpse of Coventry, Bakinson and Fiorini the other day. Trust that Scott can bring in a couple more ASAP and we can then all judge over the next couple of games whether our side is improving at all. |
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Post by bexleyboy on Jan 15, 2024 14:21:43 GMT
Don’t think C Campbell done that bad when he played .. unfortunately all loan signings were not MA .. does not make the decision to sign them wrong perhaps they would have suited the way DH wanted to play
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Post by aaronaldo on Jan 15, 2024 14:24:36 GMT
How many times do we have to repeat this conversation? Do you and OR just want everyone to agree and pat each other on the back? We are all aware of how bad the recruitment has been. It's not just been the last two windows either! Last summers window was compromised by the takeover. It takes months to line up these sorts of deals (loans and perms) and we didn't have that. Andy was there for January but with the non-existent budget he was given, I'd challenge anyone to get good loans in with that. Can we turn the page now and look at the future? The past has gone. Let's move on to the present / future That go for the defence of the dogs dinner as well or just the criticism? Both sides! I am just providing context as listening to one side of an argument isn't fair. However, this conversation has been repeated MANY times on MANY threads. Often completely at odds with the thread subject. If you want to debate it more then I'll happily move all posts about this subject onto it's own thread whenever they appear. Then you can really see the same thing gets asked again and again. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Jan 15, 2024 14:26:00 GMT
Well of course it was a poor decision Look at his stats for goals & assists. Appleton clearly didn’t rate him for a reason. You are at risk of tying yourself in knots here Mundell Do all stats count, or only the ones that favour Scott ? I'm not tying myself in knots. C Campbell hasn't worked out. I haven't looked at his stats, but I'm sure they will confirm he hasn't delivered. All I'm saying is that you can't always judge the quality of decision making based on outcomes alone. I don't think that's controversial. I don't think I've been defending Andy Scott by the way. Based on the evidence available so far I still think SE7 will prove to be 'good' owners, but as far as Scott is concerned I'd say the jury is out. Members of the ACC may share some 'characteristics' but we don't all have the same views!! THIS! |
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Post by seriouslyred on Jan 15, 2024 14:29:43 GMT
If there was any question he'd be returning to Wolves then his performance on Saturday put that to bed. It obviously hasn't worked out. However, that doesn't mean it was a poor decision to sign him. There is never going to be any certainty with loans. Well of course it was a poor decision Look at his stats for goals & assists. Appleton clearly didn’t rate him for a reason. You are at risk of tying yourself in knots here MundellDo all stats count, or only the ones that favour Scott ? Captain hindsight leaps in with his statements of what he believes to be the bleeding obvious XG is the only stat that matters and until we have a first XI that can restore it to where it was, we are in danger of sliding down the table into a relegation fight. The first in our lifetimes! Appleton rates and chooses not to rate players for any number of reasons. But I'm not quite sure why one would suddenly cite him as an expert on our squad given his current run of ten without a win?! The SE7 SMT spelt out their approach the other day which has been followed up with three loans sent back and four players recruited. It's surely in the interests of both fans and investors that Scott continues to evolve the squad this window and deliver the goal threat that we obviously require. Time will tell whether Appleton can deliver three points any time soon. And what happens if he doesn't. |
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Jan 15, 2024 14:29:53 GMT
That go for the defence of the dogs dinner as well or just the criticism? Both sides! I am just providing context as listen to one side of an argument isn't fair. However, this conversation has been repeated MANY times on MANY threads. Often completely at odds with the thread subject. If you want to debate it more then I'll happily move all posts about this subject onto it's own thread whenever they appear. Then you can really see the same thing gets asked again and again. So it’s ok for seriouslyred to constantly re-publish his Kill Bill list of fans he’s fallen out with, but there’s to be no list of dud signings by Scott 🤔 Your argument about Scott is fatally undermined by the fact that he himself said on Charlton TV in Dec 2022 that he wouldn’t be at the club unless the January 2023 transfer budget was a competitive one. With hindsight, that was a whopper that Burger King would have been proud of. |
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Jan 15, 2024 14:31:34 GMT
Well of course it was a poor decision Look at his stats for goals & assists. Appleton clearly didn’t rate him for a reason. You are at risk of tying yourself in knots here MundellDo all stats count, or only the ones that favour Scott ? Captain hindsight leaps in with his statements of the bleeding obvious XG is the only stat that matters and until we have a first XI that can restore it to where it was, we are in danger of sliding down the table into a relegation fight. The first in our lifetimes! Appleton rates and chooses not to rate players for any number of reasons. But I'm not quite sure why one would suddenly cite him as an expert on our squad given his current run of ten without a win?! The only fan I have seen claim that Appleton is choosing the new signings this January is bexleyboy / Ronnie Moore and his alter ego Spanish Sid on Twitter. |
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Post by hairyhotdog on Jan 15, 2024 14:39:11 GMT
Both terrible signings , glad they’ve gone back , law of averages says we are due a couple of good loans moving forward… 🤞🏽
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Post by bigandy99 on Jan 15, 2024 15:07:42 GMT
The problem with C Campbell is that he was simply too lightweight for our team in our division…we need tacklers and grafters and that isn’t him.. not his fault but it’s why he shouldn’t have been signed… poor due diligence!
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 15, 2024 16:05:07 GMT
D9n't onow what all the fuss is snout myself. I ssid both players are leaving teo weeks ago along with Abankwah. My personal opinion is that Louie Watson should also be on his bike!
Three loan spots freed up and we are looking to fill them. One will be Ladapo from what I'm hearing, another we were hoping for was Caleb Taylor but WBA won't budge.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 15, 2024 16:12:34 GMT
Let's cut out the personals and the witch hunts just because people have a different view to your own.
The loans have been poor but guess what the owners have had their eyes wide open to that fact and done something about it. The next batch will be a step up on what borrowed players we have had so far.
Andy Scott has got a few things wrong and been told as much by the actions taken to send players he chose, back to their parent clubs.
We don't have to keep going around in circles disecting every detail.
Look forward not back.
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Post by revilo on Jan 15, 2024 17:37:59 GMT
Campbell set to go on loan to Wycombe Wanderers so we may play him this season
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Post by seriouslyred on Jan 15, 2024 20:34:41 GMT
Captain hindsight leaps in with his statements of the bleeding obvious XG is the only stat that matters and until we have a first XI that can restore it to where it was, we are in danger of sliding down the table into a relegation fight. The first in our lifetimes! Appleton rates and chooses not to rate players for any number of reasons. But I'm not quite sure why one would suddenly cite him as an expert on our squad given his current run of ten without a win?! The only fan I have seen claim that Appleton is choosing the new signings this January is bexleyboy / Ronnie Moore and his alter ego Spanish Sid on Twitter. One suspects you've misinterpreted - then perhaps my post was ambiguous? To be absolutely clear we can infer how Appleton rates player from his interviews, team selections and substitutions. The investors appear to have funded both the termination of Kirk's deal and the arrival of January reinforcements. Mistakes may have been made in recruitment under SE7 / Scott but none of them are catastrophic / long term. We can expect a mix of decent signings as well as those who fail to make an impact. The real question this month is whether Scott can improve the squad - let's see where we are at 10:05pm on Tuesday week! |
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Post by wellingaddick on Jan 16, 2024 16:51:05 GMT
Signed for Wycombe.
Wycombe Wanderers
@wwfcofficial
🆕 The first goalscorer of Matt Bloomfield's reign as #Chairboys boss.
Chem Campbell returns to strengthen the Wanderers' attack!
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Post by aaronaldo on Jan 16, 2024 16:57:02 GMT
In case anyone was interested (unlikely).
This bit made me chuckle though "TEAMtalk can reveal that all is agreed and the 23-year-old is ready to reset his career in his homeland having been viewed as one of the most exciting forwards in Europe at one stage."
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Post by watameires on Jan 16, 2024 18:59:14 GMT
By Bexkey? 🧐
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