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Post by reamsofverse on Nov 16, 2023 17:55:12 GMT
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Post by bigandy99 on Nov 16, 2023 21:30:18 GMT
I’ll warm up my car and will drop him off..
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Post by whynot on Nov 16, 2023 22:23:52 GMT
it is a shame really. I do believe in him there is a good player who has the potential. Saying that he had a terrible start with us both on and off the pitch which he has never really recovered from. I think moving on with a new team and back up north closer to his family is the best for him and the team. Let him go for free and save some money on his wages.
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Post by DFT on Nov 19, 2023 10:51:26 GMT
It'll be good for him and for the club if he moves on in January.
He has no future at Charlton but he might have elsewhere, probably dropping down a division.
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Post by norfolkrobin on Nov 19, 2023 21:48:23 GMT
It'll be good for him and for the club if he moves on in January. He has no future at Charlton but he might have elsewhere, probably dropping down a division. No bad blood,but he's had enough cracks of the whip now. Shame as a player's in there,but if he wants up North and the fee we get can get is reinvested then so be it. |
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Nov 19, 2023 22:44:09 GMT
It'll be good for him and for the club if he moves on in January. He has no future at Charlton but he might have elsewhere, probably dropping down a division. No bad blood,but he's had enough cracks of the whip now. Shame as a player's in there,but if he wants up North and the fee we get can get is reinvested then so be it. Fee? Are you drunk? We've been trying to offload him on a free transfer for over a year now and nobody's interested. There will be no fee. On the contrary WE will have to pay HIM a fee (pay off some of his contract) to move him on. He's on 7.5k a week here and unlikely to get more than 2k-ish elsewhere so we're the ones who will be paying a fee (not receiving one) if he moves in January. |
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Post by norfolkrobin on Nov 20, 2023 7:26:09 GMT
No bad blood,but he's had enough cracks of the whip now. Shame as a player's in there,but if he wants up North and the fee we get can get is reinvested then so be it. Fee? Are you drunk? We've been trying to offload him on a free transfer for over a year now and nobody's interested. There will be no fee. On the contrary WE will have to pay HIM a fee (pay off some of his contract) to move him on. He's on 7.5k a week here and unlikely to get more than 2k-ish elsewhere so we're the ones who will be paying a fee (not receiving one) if he moves in January. Perhaps wishful thinking on my part as he's still got a chunk of contract left. I wasn't sure if we just wanted rid ASAP,or looking for a deal that would suit all parties ideally. |
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Post by AndyAddick on Nov 20, 2023 11:07:55 GMT
lazy , end of
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Post by bexleyboy on Nov 20, 2023 11:29:23 GMT
Frustrating he still possibly the best winger we have at the club his stats over the years prove what a good player he is … he been unlucky change of managers different systems ..his dad and his GF moving back up north .. its not been easy for him .
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Post by joeblack on Nov 20, 2023 11:44:41 GMT
Personally I'd hope that Appleton can sit down with him and have a chat - it's not in Kirk's nterests to be frozen out for another year, despite being paid. Surely as a professional footballer it would be better to move back up north with his family, and get back on the pitch. and for us we need to free some wages to get better players in. I guess it's all down to Kirk and his agent trying to get some sort of pay off to tear up his contract.
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Post by manikin on Nov 20, 2023 12:05:07 GMT
Personally I'd hope that Appleton can sit down with him and have a chat - it's not in Kirk's nterests to be frozen out for another year, despite being paid. Surely as a professional footballer it would be better to move back up north with his family, and get back on the pitch. and for us we need to free some wages to get better players in. I guess it's all down to Kirk and his agent trying to get some sort of pay off to tear up his contract. Can't see him accepting a permanent move unless he gains financially. |
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Post by kings hill addick on Nov 20, 2023 12:10:07 GMT
Personally I'd hope that Appleton can sit down with him and have a chat - it's not in Kirk's nterests to be frozen out for another year, despite being paid. Surely as a professional footballer it would be better to move back up north with his family, and get back on the pitch. and for us we need to free some wages to get better players in. I guess it's all down to Kirk and his agent trying to get some sort of pay off to tear up his contract. I can’t see the player waving much his contractual earnings. With the new rules that are being forced onto the EFL, in exchange for more money from the a Premier League, players like Kirk are never going to earn as much as they have now. He will, probably, earn more in the next eighteen months (from us) than he will earn in the rest of his career. He would be mad to agree to walk away from, what could be, £250k after tax. Especially when you consider that his attitude to work makes it look unlikely that he will have much of a career after he stops playing football. Basically he’s buggered, and he’s stuck with us just as much as we’re stuck with him. |
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Post by seriouslyred on Nov 20, 2023 14:32:37 GMT
Personally I'd hope that Appleton can sit down with him and have a chat - it's not in Kirk's nterests to be frozen out for another year, despite being paid. Surely as a professional footballer it would be better to move back up north with his family, and get back on the pitch. and for us we need to free some wages to get better players in. I guess it's all down to Kirk and his agent trying to get some sort of pay off to tear up his contract. I can’t see the player waving much his contractual earnings. With the new rules that are being forced onto the EFL, in exchange for more money from the a Premier League, players like Kirk are never going to earn as much as they have now. He will, probably, earn more in the next eighteen months (from us) than he will earn in the rest of his career. He would be mad to agree to walk away from, what could be, £250k after tax. Especially when you consider that his attitude to work makes it look unlikely that he will have much of a career after he stops playing football. Basically he’s buggered, and he’s stuck with us just as much as we’re stuck with him. That's a fair representation of the situation. What I would add is that his focus and effort may well change late 2024 as the contract winds down and he realises he's playing for his next contract elsewhere. Seen this with several players over the years and perhaps his appetite for a move in January 2025 might be high if some club or other is offering a deal. |
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Post by AndyAddick on Nov 22, 2023 14:49:57 GMT
Frustrating he still possibly the best winger we have at the club his stats over the years prove what a good player he is … he been unlucky change of managers different systems ..his dad and his GF moving back up north .. its not been easy for him . winger or whinger ? from what I've seen he couldn't cross a pools coupon let alone a ball ! |
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Post by surridgecobbler5 on Nov 24, 2023 12:07:14 GMT
My main criticism of Kirk is that he bottles every tackle and goes to great lengths to avoid any challenge.
He also slows every move down and so often gives away possession.
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Post by manikin on Nov 24, 2023 12:28:07 GMT
My main criticism of Kirk is that he bottles every tackle and goes to great lengths to avoid any challenge. He also slows every move down and so often gives away possession. On top of that he can't shoot straight. |
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