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Post by steve2707 on Sept 8, 2023 7:29:15 GMT
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Post by cafcfan32 on Sept 8, 2023 7:30:59 GMT
Absolute wrongdoers these new owners
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 8, 2023 7:40:44 GMT
Absolute wrongdoers these new owners Should have accepted the bids then should they? |
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Post by aaronaldo on Sept 8, 2023 7:46:03 GMT
Absolute wrongdoers these new owners Should have accepted the bids then should they? Sarcasm I believe |
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Post by squareball on Sept 8, 2023 9:02:56 GMT
They’ll be sold in January for sure. They won’t let them walk away for nothing. If they aren’t sold then their heads will be turned by better than us.
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Post by bexleyboy on Sept 8, 2023 9:39:22 GMT
Just proves the new owners don’t need the money ..
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Post by bexleyboy on Sept 8, 2023 9:42:21 GMT
They’ll be sold in January for sure. They won’t let them walk away for nothing. If they aren’t sold then their heads will be turned by better than us. Why don’t need to worry about contacts till end of year .. anyone think we are talking about Haaland and Messi … it’s Dobson and CBT and in the latter case we deffo could do better . |
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Post by jacksalescafc on Sept 8, 2023 9:43:53 GMT
Absolute wrongdoers these new owners I’m guessing this is sarcasm? 😂 |
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Post by jonkool on Sept 8, 2023 9:49:13 GMT
The issue of long term contracts is a very relevant one.
On the one hand we look at developing youngsters with a view to reaping large future transfer fees and add ons. The success of the strategy is dependent on making sure the future prospects are tied down to long term contracts.
But flip the coin over and you have Kirk DJ and dare I say Chuks on long term contracts which are heavy ballast when the players do not perform.
Going back to the Academy lads we need a crystal ball to try and devise a contract length to be offered … Ness gets shipped off to non league Torquay then is recalled and marked down as a future star. He then has some sub par performances this season and demonstrates the high degree of performance volatility of emerging younger players.
So the conclusion to ge drawn is that the SMT need to employ Mystic Meg when offering contract terms 🤔
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Post by somerton on Sept 8, 2023 9:53:30 GMT
Absolute wrongdoers these new owners Should have accepted the bids then should they? If true about the Dobson approach. Then it does not say much for our owners if they cannot match Wrexhams wage offers to Dobo and get him to extend his contract. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Sept 8, 2023 10:03:50 GMT
They’ll be sold in January for sure. They won’t let them walk away for nothing. If they aren’t sold then their heads will be turned by better than us. Why don’t need to worry about contacts till end of year .. anyone think we are talking about Haaland and Messi … it’s Dobson and CBT and in the latter case we deffo could do better Do you mean end of the year as in December/Jan or as in the end of the season? We really need Dobbo on a new contract by December at the latest. CBT I'm not as worried about. I'd let him go for a reasonable bid if we invested in better alternatives. Might be worth giving him another year to up the price though. No more than that. |
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Post by yorkshireaddick on Sept 8, 2023 10:19:30 GMT
They’ll be sold in January for sure. They won’t let them walk away for nothing. If they aren’t sold then their heads will be turned by better than us. Why don’t need to worry about contacts till end of year .. anyone think we are talking about Haaland and Messi … it’s Dobson and CBT and in the latter case we deffo could do better . If we could do better then why wasn't better acquired? |
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Post by zenga on Sept 8, 2023 10:50:19 GMT
The issue of long term contracts is a very relevant one. On the one hand we look at developing youngsters with a view to reaping large future transfer fees and add ons. The success of the strategy is dependent on making sure the future prospects are tied down to long term contracts. But flip the coin over and you have Kirk DJ and dare I say Chuks on long term contracts which are heavy ballast when the players do not perform. I believe that in order to rebalance the power dynamic between players and clubs, the act of buying out a player's contract (i.e., releasing them) should no longer be included in the salary cap calculation (60% or turnover), with possible exceptions for medical reasons. Currently, players who fail to meet performance expectations relative to their earnings can effectively hold the club hostage. When clubs terminate such contracts, they are double fucked - they lose a player/body and they have even less financial flexibility to sign someone new. |
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Post by seriouslyred on Sept 8, 2023 11:50:54 GMT
The issue of long term contracts is a very relevant one. On the one hand we look at developing youngsters with a view to reaping large future transfer fees and add ons. The success of the strategy is dependent on making sure the future prospects are tied down to long term contracts. But flip the coin over and you have Kirk DJ and dare I say Chuks on long term contracts which are heavy ballast when the players do not perform. I believe that in order to rebalance the power dynamic between players and clubs, the act of buying out a player's contract (i.e., releasing them) should no longer be included in the salary cap calculation (60% or turnover), with possible exceptions for medical reasons. Currently, players who fail to meet performance expectations relative to their earnings can effectively hold the club hostage. When clubs terminate such contracts, they are double fucked - they lose a player/body and they have even less financial flexibility to sign someone new. The problems mentioned are with players brought in by the Sandgaards, Gallen and whoever was manager at the time. As Cruyff stated "before I make a mistake, I don't make that mistake! "Or Riga upon his return to CAFC: "We need to make less mistakes in recruitment" There's a new SMT and we will soon see Appleton lead our new look squad over the next 10-15 games. Perhaps then we might judge whether recruitment has improved or not over the summer. And whether we can see the squad improve through coaching and fitness in the months ahead. Plus a few ins and outs in the January window? As such it makes sense for the salary cap to cover all wages. And for the SMT to manage accordingly. Alongside better recruitment, coaching etc. we also need an improvement in commercial revenues such that we can offer bigger deals where player performance warrants a pay rise. |
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Post by squareball on Sept 8, 2023 11:58:42 GMT
Just proves the new owners don’t need the money .. That’s handy. |
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Post by norfolkrobin on Sept 8, 2023 14:37:54 GMT
Just proves the new owners don’t need the money .. That’s handy. I know Wrexham have become a money generating monster,but that's concerning they've eyed Dobbo. Even more concerning is that SE7 seem to want praise for not selling. |
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Post by webbo on Sept 9, 2023 9:18:35 GMT
Are we expected to believe this story put out by Wrexham and Derby County sources?
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Post by coveredendwatcher on Sept 9, 2023 17:47:39 GMT
Are we expected to believe this story put out by Wrexham and Derby County sources? If it’s true it just means the bids didn’t hit our internal valuations, not that they want to hold onto our best players . If someone came in with a 5m bid for Leaburn he would be gone . If someone offers to double Dobbo’s wages I am sure he would be out of the door as soon as his contract expired. We are in league 1 all of our players are for sale at the right price. You would have thought that with the new billionaire owners we would be one of the clubs pushing the right buttons to get the best players into the club But this hasn’t happened has it ? Now we have stories that we have turned down a few bids, perhaps as some mitigating factor. To me it looks like the SMT have sold a budget to the investors which would get them promoted , and they can’t be seen at this point to go back and say - we have got it wrong. |
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Post by webbo on Sept 10, 2023 8:13:14 GMT
Why would Wrexham and Derby County release that information to a journalist associate of Richard Cawley to be reported early in the day when Michael Appleton was appointed?
Doesn’t it make more sense that the origins of that story comes from Charlton?
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Sept 10, 2023 9:42:36 GMT
This has clearly come from someone on the SE7/GFP side, probably the same person who told Reams we'd turned down £4m worth of bids for our players (this story and that probably refer to the same bids).
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Post by mikebassett on Sept 10, 2023 9:57:45 GMT
It’s quite clever really to put in a low offer for a player with less than 12 months left on their contract. There’s a small chance you get the player at the time or then negotiate a deal that sees you sign him at that point. The other benefit for the bidding club is letting the player know they’re wanted, which might make them think twice about signing a new contract and then they can potentially get the player for a relatively low fee come January or possibly in the summer for free. Both Derby and Wrexham can probably give CBT and Dobson pretty decent wage increases, too.
Leaburn will go eventually. He’s showed more promise than Burstow ever did and with a few goals between now and January and I think clubs will come in for him. Hopefully any deal is loaded with add ons and clauses if he does make it.
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Post by cafcfan32 on Sept 10, 2023 12:20:08 GMT
Absolute wrongdoers these new owners Should have accepted the bids then should they? Reams i would have thought you would have seen this was tongue in cheek from me….im saying they did right |
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