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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 20, 2023 18:05:38 GMT
I won't beat about the bush the tour to the States see's them play Chelsea, Man Utd, Philadelphia Union and LA Galaxy. I have been critical of them for basically sacrificing a pre-season for an Exhibition tour to their brand even bigger than what it already in the States but I wasn't aware that American sponsors have basically paid for the entire tour and it will generate enough money to pay the entire squad for this coming season!
That's just nuts!.
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Post by valley on Jul 20, 2023 18:32:58 GMT
Any signings for Wrexham on the cards Reams?.
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Post by coloradocafc on Jul 20, 2023 18:41:10 GMT
Do you know if they're playing Union and LA Galaxy or their reserve/tier 3 clubs? I've seen both listed.
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Post by aaronaldo on Jul 20, 2023 19:03:56 GMT
We could do with a big celeb in our consortium! The revenue they’ve been able to generate is incredible.
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Post by manikin on Jul 20, 2023 19:08:02 GMT
We could do with a big celeb in our consortium! The revenue they’ve been able to generate is incredible. If we attracted a big celeb it would be Fatty Arbuckle! |
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Post by earlpurple on Jul 20, 2023 19:20:02 GMT
Ian Maatsen scored 2 goals for Chelsea and Conor Gallagher scored 1.
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Post by Mundell on Jul 20, 2023 19:28:51 GMT
I won't beat about the bush the tour to the States see's them play Chelsea, Man Utd, Philadelphia Union and LA Galaxy. I have been critical of them for basically sacrificing a pre-season for an Exhibition tour to their brand even bigger than what it already in the States but I wasn't aware that American sponsors have basically paid for the entire tour and it will generate enough money to pay the entire squad for this coming season! That's just nuts!. There may be an element of serendipity in the way the commercial strategy at Wrexham has evolved, but the end result is quite brilliant and stunning in its effectiveness. The feedback loop between success on the pitch and the generation of higher revenues as a result of the “story” being told, leading to further success on the pitch, now has a momentum that could carry Wrexham into the Championship without the owners having to provide any material funding. It’s extraordinary really. And a reminder that commercial revenues at Charlton are pitiful in comparison. This has always been the case, even when the club was being managed by the “Golden Generation”, and it will be interesting to see if the club’s new owners, with their hands on knowledge of the management of US sports franchises, can turn that around. Season ticket holders (and I’m one of those) and other regulars may not like it, but in the modern game the potential revenues available from “fans” who will never visit the Valley is an order of magnitude greater than that which the club receives from people like me who actually attend marches. It makes sense to maximise this income. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 20, 2023 19:55:00 GMT
Do you know if they're playing Union and LA Galaxy or their reserve/tier 3 clubs? I've seen both listed. 1st teams I believe mate. |
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Post by coloradocafc on Jul 20, 2023 20:06:17 GMT
I won't beat about the bush the tour to the States see's them play Chelsea, Man Utd, Philadelphia Union and LA Galaxy. I have been critical of them for basically sacrificing a pre-season for an Exhibition tour to their brand even bigger than what it already in the States but I wasn't aware that American sponsors have basically paid for the entire tour and it will generate enough money to pay the entire squad for this coming season! That's just nuts!. There may be an element of serendipity in the way the commercial strategy at Wrexham has evolved, but the end result is quite brilliant and stunning in its effectiveness. The feedback loop between success on the pitch and the generation of higher revenues as a result of the “story” being told, leading to further success on the pitch, now has a momentum that could carry Wrexham into the Championship without the owners having to provide any material funding. It’s extraordinary really. And a reminder that commercial revenues at Charlton are pitiful in comparison. This has always been the case, even when the club was being managed by the “Golden Generation”, and it will be interesting to see if the club’s new owners, with their hands on knowledge of the management of US sports franchises, can turn that around. Season ticket holders (and I’m one of those) and other regulars may not like it, but in the modern game the potential revenues available from “fans” who will never visit the Valley is an order of magnitude greater than that which the club receives from people like me who actually attend marches. It makes sense to maximise this income. It's an interesting idea, for sure. I just don't know how you get your brand in front of American/worldwide eyes if you're not toward the point of the pyramid. Wrexham is making cash now, but for how long can it be maintained? Hard to know, but TV popularity is ephemeral. I wonder how effectively Sunderland monetized their moment in front of viewer's eyes? |
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Post by Mundell on Jul 20, 2023 20:24:56 GMT
There may be an element of serendipity in the way the commercial strategy at Wrexham has evolved, but the end result is quite brilliant and stunning in its effectiveness. The feedback loop between success on the pitch and the generation of higher revenues as a result of the “story” being told, leading to further success on the pitch, now has a momentum that could carry Wrexham into the Championship without the owners having to provide any material funding. It’s extraordinary really. And a reminder that commercial revenues at Charlton are pitiful in comparison. This has always been the case, even when the club was being managed by the “Golden Generation”, and it will be interesting to see if the club’s new owners, with their hands on knowledge of the management of US sports franchises, can turn that around. Season ticket holders (and I’m one of those) and other regulars may not like it, but in the modern game the potential revenues available from “fans” who will never visit the Valley is an order of magnitude greater than that which the club receives from people like me who actually attend marches. It makes sense to maximise this income. It's an interesting idea, for sure. I just don't know how you get your brand in front of American/worldwide eyes if you're not toward the point of the pyramid. Wrexham is making cash now, but for how long can it be maintained? Hard to know, but TV popularity is ephemeral. I wonder how effectively Sunderland monetized their moment in front of viewer's eyes? Absolutely and I don’t know either. What’s extraordinary though is that in the digital age the cost of connecting customers to content is close to nothing and the numbers potentially mind blowing. It may be fanciful, but one million punters in Asia paying £5 per annum, for something, anything, is completely transformational. The marketing challenge is to figure out how you “turn those customers on”. It’s not football, per se, it’s some kind of narrative or slogan or story which somehow lands and snowballs. Probably a pipe dream. Re Wrexham, the story doesn’t have to last long. A two-three year windfall has the potential to take the club to a completely different place. That said, we all know that it’s the Championship which is the financial graveyard. That’s where the nightmares really begin for any owner that cares about the money they’re spending. |
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Post by seriouslyred on Jul 20, 2023 21:22:06 GMT
It's an interesting idea, for sure. I just don't know how you get your brand in front of American/worldwide eyes if you're not toward the point of the pyramid. Wrexham is making cash now, but for how long can it be maintained? Hard to know, but TV popularity is ephemeral. I wonder how effectively Sunderland monetized their moment in front of viewer's eyes? Absolutely and I don’t know either. What’s extraordinary though is that in the digital age the cost of connecting customers to content is close to nothing and the numbers potentially mind blowing. It may be fanciful, but one million punters in Asia paying £5 per annum, for something, anything, is completely transformational. The marketing challenge is to figure out how you “turn those customers on”. It’s not football, per se, it’s some kind of narrative or slogan or story which somehow lands and snowballs. Probably a pipe dream. Re Wrexham, the story doesn’t have to last long. A two-three year windfall has the potential to take the club to a completely different place. That said, we all know that it’s the Championship which is the financial graveyard. That’s where the nightmares really begin for any owner that cares about the money they’re spending. An article at the beginning of April stated that Wrexham's aggregated social media following across Tiktok, Twitter, Facebook and Instagram had hit the 2M mark. We don't know how that converts into merchandise and Wrexham TV sales along with the Disney+ programme but that's going to be a serious line on the P&L. I've looked just now and that number is up 50% in four months to over 3M. At this rate they might hit 5M by Christmas! The narrative is there. The funding to improve the squad will obviously be there. Together with the marketing knowhow. The question is can their SMT continue to deliver? We might also consider whether this has the potential to be a game changer for all EFL clubs. Can skillful executives plan and deliver a similar exponential growth in global following at CAFC or elsewhere? Naturally there are only so many media channels in the US and Asia that might "adopt" an EFL club. So it's kinda good to know that we've just been acquired by people with serious US sports franchise exposure. |
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Post by discocafc on Jul 21, 2023 8:50:09 GMT
I won't beat about the bush the tour to the States see's them play Chelsea, Man Utd, Philadelphia Union and LA Galaxy. I have been critical of them for basically sacrificing a pre-season for an Exhibition tour to their brand even bigger than what it already in the States but I wasn't aware that American sponsors have basically paid for the entire tour and it will generate enough money to pay the entire squad for this coming season! That's just nuts!. That is nuts but I agree they should play at least 2 games back at home so fans can watch them before the season starts. |
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Post by Professor Glum on Jul 26, 2023 12:30:19 GMT
Beat a Man Utd team 3-1, but it seems that Mullen was taken off with an injury due to a very poor challenge by the United Keeper, lets hope he recovers soon.
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Post by ashaddick on Jul 31, 2023 14:20:20 GMT
Did anyone else pick up on Wrexham being slated for being the only national league club flying their team to certain matches ? the shortest flight being just 25 minutes long.
I assume they won’t be claiming to be climate conscious whilst chasing down the dollar.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 31, 2023 14:28:16 GMT
Did anyone else pick up on Wrexham being slated for being the only national league club flying their team to certain matches ? the shortest flight being just 25 minutes long. I assume they won’t be claiming to be climate conscious whilst chasing down the dollar. 11 flights. Ridiculous. |
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Post by wiggyatthebackpost on Jul 31, 2023 14:31:37 GMT
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Post by petetongthereturn on Jul 31, 2023 14:31:54 GMT
I remember the time when the big clubs helped the lower league clubs by sending their first team for a friendly.
Sadly now this is not the case.
Greed !!
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Post by smudge7946 on Jul 31, 2023 14:37:05 GMT
Did anyone else pick up on Wrexham being slated for being the only national league club flying their team to certain matches ? the shortest flight being just 25 minutes long. I assume they won’t be claiming to be climate conscious whilst chasing down the dollar. 11 flights. Ridiculous. Let's not throw too many stones here. We flew to Spain to play Leyton Orient and proudly advertised 'sustainability business experts' RSK as we did it. Did George Dobson buy that electric car as he claimed? |
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Post by aaronaldo on Jul 31, 2023 14:42:50 GMT
That's not going to go down well!
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Post by seriouslyred on Jul 31, 2023 15:10:48 GMT
That's not going to go down well! Holding back a few tickets for new fans travelling 5,000 miles for their once in a lifetime / annual pilgrimage doesn't seem so bad! Not when you consider that Wrexham's aggregated social media following tops 3M. And these online fans contribute $X via streams and merch. And some of these US/ Canadian fans might feature as part of the narrative. Perhaps some are being divisive, picking holes? |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 31, 2023 15:11:19 GMT
That's not going to go down well! It hasn't but so many fans can see no wrong in the ticket situation. They won't have a bad word said about the yanks. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Jul 31, 2023 15:15:34 GMT
That's not going to go down well! Holding back a few tickets for new fans travelling 5,000 miles for their once in a lifetime / annual pilgrimage doesn't seem so bad! Not when you consider that Wrexham's aggregated social media following tops 3M. And these online fans contribute $X via streams and merch. And some of these US/ Canadian fans might feature as part of the narrative. Perhaps some are being divisive, picking holes? I get what you're saying but why the need to hold them back? Is it the fact they sell out before the international fans are awake? If you were a local fan who went regularly (without a season ticket) then you'd be annoyed if tickets were available but not to for you, wouldn't you? It's a small issue but not a great look. Loyalty to fans is a big thing. |
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Post by ashaddick on Jul 31, 2023 15:53:08 GMT
Let's not throw too many stones here. We flew to Spain to play Leyton Orient and proudly advertised 'sustainability business experts' RSK as we did it. Did George Dobson buy that electric car as he claimed? That’s not quite the same, we flew to Spain to do pre season training and play those games. We didn’t fly in a jet for 25 minutes, spend 4 or 5 hours on the ground and then fly back. I am well aware that some prem clubs choose to fly to games and I would question some of those flights too. |
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Post by ashaddick on Jul 31, 2023 15:56:01 GMT
I actually have family over from Canada this weekend and they wanted to go to Wrexham on Saturday, I told them I would drop them at our local station which has a direct line and collect them… if they can get tickets. That now I believe is impossible.
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Post by smudge7946 on Jul 31, 2023 16:56:46 GMT
Let's not throw too many stones here. We flew to Spain to play Leyton Orient and proudly advertised 'sustainability business experts' RSK as we did it. Did George Dobson buy that electric car as he claimed? That’s not quite the same, we flew to Spain to do pre season training and play those games. We didn’t fly in a jet for 25 minutes, spend 4 or 5 hours on the ground and then fly back. I am well aware that some prem clubs choose to fly to games and I would question some of those flights too. Spain is a bit far to walk, we could quite easily done pre season at Sparrows Lane and walked to Brisbane Road to play Leyton Orient. |
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Post by richmondse10exile on Jul 31, 2023 21:16:20 GMT
I have zero issues with the Wrexham resurrection. There has to be a price to pay for the huge international following. The few moans seem to be dwarfed by a sensible majority who seem hugely appreciative of the transformation the club has undergone.
Like most sane fans I’d have loved this to have happened to Charlton * though I suspect we’d have still had a few questioning their net worth / intentions.
* be of no doubt - I’m very pleased with what’s going on at our club.
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Post by smudge7946 on Aug 1, 2023 8:25:28 GMT
I have zero issues with the Wrexham resurrection. There has to be a price to pay for the huge international following. The few moans seem to be dwarfed by a sensible majority who seem hugely appreciative of the transformation the club has undergone. Like most sane fans I’d have loved this to have happened to Charlton * though I suspect we’d have still had a few questioning their net worth / intentions. * be of no doubt - I’m very pleased with what’s going on at our club. I did have a BIG problem with the attention that Wrexham got on this site particularly. Although it was more a reflection of the mess Charlton were in. This new season has an optimisation about it that makes it good to be a Charlton fan again. What Hollywood FC do doesn't grind so much anymore. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 1, 2023 8:42:01 GMT
I have zero issues with the Wrexham resurrection. There has to be a price to pay for the huge international following. The few moans seem to be dwarfed by a sensible majority who seem hugely appreciative of the transformation the club has undergone. Like most sane fans I’d have loved this to have happened to Charlton * though I suspect we’d have still had a few questioning their net worth / intentions. * be of no doubt - I’m very pleased with what’s going on at our club. I did have a BIG problem with the attention that Wrexham got on this site particularly. Although it was more a reflection of the mess Charlton were in. This new season has an optimisation about it that makes it good to be a Charlton fan again. What Hollywood FC do doesn't grind so much anymore. Don't know why it should ever be a problem for anyone really. We talk about plenty of other clubs on here, I have written plenty of times about Union St. Gilloise and Hamburg. Plenty have joined in because we are duscussing differing fortunes and transitions at other clubs that people find interesting. It's only a problem if you let it be. Just skip past topics you don't think will interest you. It's all down to personal choice at the end of the day. |
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