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Post by weststandfruitloop on Jun 30, 2023 19:23:35 GMT
Seems to be a great signing, especially following on the back of Hector's return.
I know people love to obsess over strikers and wingers (flair players mainly) but sorting the defence out first makes so much sense.
If we can nab Edun and Sess I think we'll definitely have, on paper, one of the top six defences (GK included) in the division.
Perhaps midfield and attack (ie the spendier areas) will need to wait longer, at least in part, for the takeover to go through?
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Post by norfolkrobin on Jun 30, 2023 19:30:00 GMT
Reams? Any more in the pipeline or do you reckon its likely to be when we have taken over now? Good signings so far but obviously plenty more to go Told about this last night, they were hoping to get it over the line today or by the latest tomorrow. They will keep on coming but we have picked up three free agents now who are good players and we haven't even started spending yet. They want a good window and this is just the start. I believe we have outbid Peterboro for his signature. Encouraging we've beaten Posh to him.Looks a quality addition. Roll on more.... Striker please! |
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Post by norfolkrobin on Jun 30, 2023 19:33:15 GMT
Seems to be a great signing, especially following on the back of Hector's return. I know people love to obsess over strikers and wingers (flair players mainly) but sorting the defence out first makes so much sense. If we can nab Edun and Sess I think we'll definitely have, on paper, one of the top six defences (GK included) in the division. Perhaps midfield and attack (ie the spendier areas) will need to wait longer, at least in part, for the takeover to go through? Yep,sounds about right,I'm just impatient. Lloyd looks a good peice of business,leader who hopefully causes havoc in opposition boxes. |
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Post by manikin on Jun 30, 2023 19:36:31 GMT
Seems to be a great signing, especially following on the back of Hector's return. I know people love to obsess over strikers and wingers (flair players mainly) but sorting the defence out first makes so much sense. If we can nab Edun and Sess I think we'll definitely have, on paper, one of the top six defences (GK included) in the division. Perhaps midfield and attack (ie the spendier areas) will need to wait longer, at least in part, for the takeover to go through? Absolutely right, the best teams are built around a solid defence. |
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Post by dartford36 on Jun 30, 2023 19:42:58 GMT
Thinking about some of the reviews that were posted during and after many games last season, so many comments were made about poor defending at corners and set pieces. Hopefully Jones and Hector will introduce a much needed improvement in the defence.
An encouraging signature.
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Post by paperboy on Jun 30, 2023 19:48:29 GMT
Very pleased with this signing, a proper centre half, hard tackling, good on the ground and with headers who likes to get forward.
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Post by petetongthereturn on Jun 30, 2023 19:53:23 GMT
I know I’m a fanny but I hope we will be signing some championship players when the takeover happens.
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Post by vaangard on Jun 30, 2023 21:54:44 GMT
Do we think Jones was the player DH sent pictures of a full Valley?
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Post by aaronaldo on Jun 30, 2023 22:00:58 GMT
Do we think Jones was the player DH sent pictures of a full Valley? I’d say so yeah |
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Post by aaronaldo on Jul 1, 2023 8:13:03 GMT
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Post by kings hill addick on Jul 3, 2023 13:01:33 GMT
Wealdstone have announced the signing of defender Charlie Barker following his release by Charlton Athletic. And to think that this lad was in the first team squad at 17. Another example if us being forced to play kids that were not good enough because those in charge of recruitment didn't sign enough quality players. |
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Post by seriouslyred on Jul 3, 2023 14:52:30 GMT
Wealdstone have announced the signing of defender Charlie Barker following his release by Charlton Athletic. And to think that this lad was in the first team squad at 17. Another example if us being forced to play kids that were not good enough because those in charge of recruitment didn't sign enough quality players. Or is it U18 players from an Academy that regularly wins U18 competitions failing to to kick on and realise their potential? We need a pathway for the best from the Academy which isn't blocked by journeyman. We normally have around ten Academy lads in our squad, some of which may make it big! There's a lot of randomness in football, from injuries to passes that convert to goals as well as clearances that go right / horribly wrong. Why we love the game. |
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Post by scoham on Jul 4, 2023 6:51:44 GMT
Wealdstone have announced the signing of defender Charlie Barker following his release by Charlton Athletic. And to think that this lad was in the first team squad at 17. Another example if us being forced to play kids that were not good enough because those in charge of recruitment didn't sign enough quality players. He was playing just before TS took over when we were only allowed to sign Gilbey and Washington. By the time the takeover completed the salary cap had come in which limited us to what we could afford under those rules. We had missed out on players who signed before the rules changed. |
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Jan 27, 2024 17:22:42 GMT
Let’s be honest - Jones is absolutely rank.
His latest error today is almost making me nostalgic for Ryan Inniss.
Interesting to hear the comments of Peter Shirtliff - a proper defender and centre half, and he didn’t pull any punches.
Another lower league donkey like Lavelle etc who won’t be here for long.
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Post by ExeterAddick on Jan 27, 2024 17:27:45 GMT
Let’s be honest - Jones is absolutely rank. His latest error today is almost making me nostalgic for Ryan Inniss. Interesting to hear the comments of Peter Shirtliff - a proper defender and centre half, and he didn’t pull any punches. Another lower league donkey like Lavelle etc who won’t be here for long. Another player with fairly positive reviews when he arrived, who we've absolutely destroyed. |
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Post by bexleyboy on Jan 27, 2024 17:43:47 GMT
Yes Jones made an error today it was his first touch and instead of putting his foot through it tired to play the ball very similar to Coventry at Burton but , showed great character and was dominant in the second half , he was excellent won lots of headers on our box .. good to see at the end when he was upset Fleming and Pearce take him over to the fans where they gave him a proper Charlton response which was good to see .. he going to be a mainstay for years to come and rightly so
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Post by wiggyatthebackpost on Jan 27, 2024 17:50:23 GMT
Let’s be honest - Jones is absolutely rank. His latest error today is almost making me nostalgic for Ryan Inniss. Interesting to hear the comments of Peter Shirtliff - a proper defender and centre half, and he didn’t pull any punches. Another lower league donkey like Lavelle etc who won’t be here for long. To be fair to alot of the players. They are very low in confidence hopefully that battling point deserved or not .Will help with confidence, AMB is not a very good commanding keeper. Wonder if thats unsettling our defence. Time to drop him I think |
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Jan 27, 2024 18:12:06 GMT
Yes Jones made an error today it was his first touch and instead of putting his foot through it tired to play the ball very similar to Coventry at Burton but , showed great character and was dominant in the second half , he was excellent won lots of headers on our box .. good to see at the end when he was upset Fleming and Pearce take him over to the fans where they gave him a proper Charlton response which was good to see .. he going to be a mainstay for years to come and rightly so I prefer to listen to the opinion of Peter Shirtliff, who on one occasion could clearly be heard telling Jones “just fucking head it” during commentary today. |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Jan 27, 2024 18:18:14 GMT
Yes Jones made an error today it was his first touch and instead of putting his foot through it tired to play the ball very similar to Coventry at Burton but , showed great character and was dominant in the second half , he was excellent won lots of headers on our box .. good to see at the end when he was upset Fleming and Pearce take him over to the fans where they gave him a proper Charlton response which was good to see .. he going to be a mainstay for years to come and rightly so So that’s three goals in the last two games that were down to him….mainstay for years to come or liability 🤔🤔🤔🤔 |
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Post by scabbyhorse on Jan 27, 2024 19:09:37 GMT
Let’s be honest - Jones is absolutely rank. His latest error today is almost making me nostalgic for Ryan Inniss. Interesting to hear the comments of Peter Shirtliff - a proper defender and centre half, and he didn’t pull any punches. Another lower league donkey like Lavelle etc who won’t be here for long. I got the impression that Shirtliff wanted to be more scathing towards our defending but held back. |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Jan 27, 2024 19:17:31 GMT
Let’s be honest - Jones is absolutely rank. His latest error today is almost making me nostalgic for Ryan Inniss. Interesting to hear the comments of Peter Shirtliff - a proper defender and centre half, and he didn’t pull any punches. Another lower league donkey like Lavelle etc who won’t be here for long. I got the impression that Shirtliff wanted to be more scathing towards our defending but held back. Scabby our defending has been rank all season, I think if we don’t get a quality CB in to play in the middle of the three we could be relegated, how many clean sheets have we kept? Ness loses headers and fails to track his runner, Jones backs off and backs off and just marks fresh air most of the time, this is basic defending requirements which we fail to do Couple that with a keeper who rarely comes for the ball I fear for us I really do |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Jan 27, 2024 19:19:34 GMT
Let’s be honest - Jones is absolutely rank. His latest error today is almost making me nostalgic for Ryan Inniss. Interesting to hear the comments of Peter Shirtliff - a proper defender and centre half, and he didn’t pull any punches. Another lower league donkey like Lavelle etc who won’t be here for long. To be fair to alot of the players. They are very low in confidence hopefully that battling point deserved or not .Will help with confidence, AMB is not a very good commanding keeper. Wonder if thats unsettling our defence. Time to drop him I think A lack of confidence is one thing, failing to do the basics in defending as a professional footballer is another There is a reason why we haven’t kept many clean sheets this season, no leader at the back If we only have to score once to get a win then we will climb the table, until then we will struggle… simple as that |
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Post by seriouslyred on Jan 27, 2024 19:51:31 GMT
To be fair to alot of the players. They are very low in confidence hopefully that battling point deserved or not .Will help with confidence, AMB is not a very good commanding keeper. Wonder if thats unsettling our defence. Time to drop him I think A lack of confidence is one thing, failing to do the basics in defending as a professional footballer is another There is a reason why we haven’t kept many clean sheets this season, no leader at the back If we only have to score once to get a win then we will climb the table, until then we will struggle… simple as that I'm not sure it's that simple - far from it. For sure we've had done catastrophic errors at the back throughout this winless run. But our xG for has fallen off a cliff since Leaburn and Aneke were injured. Less than 1 most games. Sometimes just 0.1 or 0.2 in the first half of games. We have simply been incognito in midfield, thus inviting the ball back near our box time and time again. Yes, we can look at errors but surely what we need is coaching in the middle of the park? The ability to pass forwards successfully into our opponents half immediately takes the heat of the defence allowing them to regroup. Lloyd Jones hasn't suddenly become a bad player overnight. Nor did Hector. As per my post on the match thread, both Coventry and Edun will be available next time. And ideally a week at Sparrows Lane will enable our coaches to work fast more on 3-5-2. Don't get me wrong as we clearly have issues. But we've also taken on the challenge of transitioning to 3-5-2 overnight. And this will take time to bed down, especially as we dobby really have seasoned wingbacks. |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Jan 27, 2024 20:52:28 GMT
A lack of confidence is one thing, failing to do the basics in defending as a professional footballer is another There is a reason why we haven’t kept many clean sheets this season, no leader at the back If we only have to score once to get a win then we will climb the table, until then we will struggle… simple as that I'm not sure it's that simple - far from it. For sure we've had done catastrophic errors at the back throughout this winless run. But our xG for has fallen off a cliff since Leaburn and Aneke were injured. Less than 1 most games. Sometimes just 0.1 or 0.2 in the first half of games. We have simply been incognito in midfield, thus inviting the ball back near our box time and time again. Yes, we can look at errors but surely what we need is coaching in the middle of the park? The ability to pass forwards successfully into our opponents half immediately takes the heat of the defence allowing them to regroup. Lloyd Jones hasn't suddenly become a bad player overnight. Nor did Hector. As per my post on the match thread, both Coventry and Edun will be available next time. And ideally a week at Sparrows Lane will enable our coaches to work fast more on 3-5-2. Don't get me wrong as we clearly have issues. But we've also taken on the challenge of transitioning to 3-5-2 overnight. And this will take time to bed down, especially as we dobby really have seasoned wingbacks. SR so you are basically saying that it is our midfields fault that our defenders are not doing the basics of defending, like marking, tracking runners, winning headers, stepping out to play offside with a colleague five yards behind you The two battle hardened CB,s at Burton don’t seem to have a problem defending and not for one minute do I think they have better players than ours around them, and no doubt they have had to defend as much as our back four ..they just know how to defend and it’s pretty disgraceful that a club with limited resources with piss poor crowds is sitting higher than us in the league I think I would swap Brayford for Jones on present form |
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Jan 27, 2024 21:11:08 GMT
Fair play to Lloyd Jones, I’ve just seen the video of him apologising to our away end at full time for his mistake.
Takes a big man to do that 👏
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Post by seriouslyred on Jan 27, 2024 22:05:46 GMT
I'm not sure it's that simple - far from it. For sure we've had done catastrophic errors at the back throughout this winless run. But our xG for has fallen off a cliff since Leaburn and Aneke were injured. Less than 1 most games. Sometimes just 0.1 or 0.2 in the first half of games. We have simply been incognito in midfield, thus inviting the ball back near our box time and time again. Yes, we can look at errors but surely what we need is coaching in the middle of the park? The ability to pass forwards successfully into our opponents half immediately takes the heat of the defence allowing them to regroup. Lloyd Jones hasn't suddenly become a bad player overnight. Nor did Hector. As per my post on the match thread, both Coventry and Edun will be available next time. And ideally a week at Sparrows Lane will enable our coaches to work fast more on 3-5-2. Don't get me wrong as we clearly have issues. But we've also taken on the challenge of transitioning to 3-5-2 overnight. And this will take time to bed down, especially as we dobby really have seasoned wingbacks. SR so you are basically saying that it is our midfields fault that our defenders are not doing the basics of defending, like marking, tracking runners, winning headers, stepping out to play offside with a colleague five yards behind you The two battle hardened CB,s at Burton don’t seem to have a problem defending and not for one minute do I think they have better players than ours around them, and no doubt they have had to defend as much as our back four ..they just know how to defend and it’s pretty disgraceful that a club with limited resources with piss poor crowds is sitting higher than us in the league I think I would swap Brayford for Jones on present form Coaching... patterns... fitness... coherence... consistency We've all seen catastrophic mistakes. We've also seen wins and decent performances by the back five. Edun, Asiimwe and T.Watson have all played well at various times. Of course we might all name and shame individuals as a response to these mistakes / an emotional reaction to our disappointment if you will. But my proposition is that the coaching, recruitment, cohesion and fitness of our midfield has been sub par for some time. Today we got lucky. As Gary Player famously said: "the harder I work, the luckier I get" We can talk about swapping players to illustrate the issues. But fundamentally the SMT need to bring in the right head coach ASAP, Scott might need to add to our attacking options. And we need to see evidence of some f@cking hard work at the training ground during the week when we all roll up to The Valley next Saturday. |
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Post by watameires on Jan 27, 2024 22:10:19 GMT
“the coaching, recruitment, cohesion and fitness of our midfield has been sub par for some time.”….
Replace midfield with team/squad and you’ll be bang on
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Post by seriouslyred on Jan 27, 2024 22:16:23 GMT
“the coaching, recruitment, cohesion and fitness of our midfield has been sub par for some time.”…. Replace midfield with team/squad and you’ll be bang on You have a point! We have a top six budget... many were happy to blame Sandgaard, Gallen and Garner for where we were back in 2022. But it appears to be quite a challenge to return us back to where we were in 2018. On paper most were encouraged by six signings early January, but we've lost our goal threat. Blaming the keeper or individual defenders for errors really doesn't help. One could go further but it's late. |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Jan 27, 2024 22:21:05 GMT
“the coaching, recruitment, cohesion and fitness of our midfield has been sub par for some time.”…. Replace midfield with team/squad and you’ll be bang on You have a point! We have a top six budget... many were happy to blame Sandgaard, Gallen and Garner for where we were back in 2022. But it appears to be quite a challenge to return us back to where we were in 2018. On paper most were encouraged by six signings early January, but we've lost our goal threat. Blaming the keeper or individual defenders for errors really doesn't help. One could go further but it's late. A top 6 budget with a team weak as piss sitting 18th in the league and churning through managers at 3 per season….. so far……. If I was the owners I would be looking very closely at other areas of our business rather than just rinse and repeating managers I know we probably wouldn’t be able to afford him but I would love Warnock to take us on as a final project, I am pretty sure he would get this squad playing to its potential and also discard the players who are clearly not good enough |
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Post by bexleyboy on Jan 27, 2024 22:23:36 GMT
Yes Jones made an error today it was his first touch and instead of putting his foot through it tired to play the ball very similar to Coventry at Burton but , showed great character and was dominant in the second half , he was excellent won lots of headers on our box .. good to see at the end when he was upset Fleming and Pearce take him over to the fans where they gave him a proper Charlton response which was good to see .. he going to be a mainstay for years to come and rightly so So that’s three goals in the last two games that were down to him….mainstay for years to come or liability 🤔🤔🤔🤔 The first goal was down to losing the ball in mid and the player skipping past a player without a challenge ..plus Gilly was the last defender .. second goal good strike by Hoskins who lost his marker ( not jones ) and had a free hit … so no he wasn’t .. |
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