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Post by aaronaldo on Jul 19, 2023 9:31:13 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62274965Saw this on CL and thought it was a good point. See the line up for our first game last season. Quite a significant change already. Could even argue we are stronger already this season, even though we still know we need more signings. I wasn't a big fan of Stockley for example. Not my type of striker.
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Post by valleyfaithful on Jul 25, 2023 17:43:17 GMT
Isted Jones - Hector - Ness Egbo - Camara - Dobson - Taylor - Edun Fraser May As things stand, should we sign a new Striker I'd expect us to move to a 2 up with Dobson/Camara/Taylor in rotation once fitness kicks in.
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Post by seriouslyred on Jul 25, 2023 20:37:21 GMT
Isted Jones - Hector - Ness Egbo - Camara - Dobson - Taylor - Edun Fraser May As things stand, should we sign a new Striker I'd expect us to move to a 2 up with Dobson/Camara/Taylor in rotation once fitness kicks in. Or a 4-4-2 diamond / 4-3-3 dropping Ness to the bench, and bringing in Campbell. No way of knowing but we can infer that they are gently acquiring talent to fill the obvious gaps left after certain players left.
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Post by aaronaldo on Jul 29, 2023 14:20:58 GMT
GK’s
Maynard Brewer - GK Isted - GK
Defenders
Egbo - RB/RWB - Still unsure on him. Good enough for top 6 push? Jones - CB Thomas - CB Hector - CB Ness - CB Elewere - CB Edun - LB/LWB - Hopefully hits the ground running.
Midfielders
Dobson - CDM Taylor - CDM/CM - Could be good as our set pieces taker. Likes a battle. I think he could work alongside Dobson. Camara - CM - If he plays like he can, he could be the link for our midfield. McGrandles - CM - Squad player. Ideally we get better loans/perms in. Wouldn't be against a sale. Fraser - CAM - Still some question marks for me. If we get the right players around him then he's certainly got the ability in attack. Payne - CAM - Squad player at best. Ideally we get better loans/perms in. Wouldn't be against a sale. Kirk - LM/LW (Loan / Perm) - Shows glimpses of ability but not enough. Would work in the right team if they play to his strengths. We never have and it doesn't look like changing. I would only keep if we are looking to play LM/LW's. Otherwise he's a waste of a squad position. CBT - LM/LW - NOT A LWB. Campbell - LM/LW - I can see him playing a reasonable part this season.
Strikers
Leaburn - ST May - ST Aneke - ST/CF - Not sure he'll be available much at all tbh.
Not to feature much - (Loans / Perm)
Mitchell - CB (Loan / U21's) Chinn - LB/LWB (Loan / U21's) - Not ready for this season. Might stick around as we have zero cover for LB/LWB. Asiimwe - RB/RWB (Loan) - Not ready this season but potential there. Would ideally be a loan but squad player if we don't sign another RB/RWB. Henry - CM (Loan) - Not good enough. Minimum of a loan to see if he can kick on. Anderson - CM (Loan / U21's) - Not ready this season but potential there. Really think a loan will do him good like Deji. Needs to build up his strength. DJ - RM/RW (Perm) - Not good enough. Sell. Kanu - ST (Loan / U21's) - Not ready this season but potential there. Loan would be great for him. Needs to play mens football to improve.
Observations at the end of Pre-season
We are incredibly light in some positions. ST, Fullbacks and Right sided attackers being the most obvious ones but also could argue a quality CB (pace too much to ask for?), GK and CAM are also up there.
If we insist on playing 352 then we are VERY light on certain positions and have basically ruled out CBT, Campbell, Kirk, DJ from being useful at all. Unless we are playing lesser sides. We also need at least 2 ST's if we are playing 2 up front. I don't think we can bring Aneke into the picture. He's an impact sub at best (if ever fit). Could be an amazing impact sub tbh.
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Post by seriouslyred on Jul 29, 2023 14:50:01 GMT
Two more phases this window: loaning out players who are unlikely to feature and securing EPL loans.
Management will use just 16 players for 90-95% of the minutes between now and 31st December. But it's hard to predict which keeper, which right back, which centre backs etc. will claim the shirt.
I'd include Asiimwe in that squad above based upon watching a stream of the Aberdeen friendly. And we know Leaburn, Edun and Taylor feature once fit.
We can all hope for improvements on 12 months ago but it's absolutely clear there will be much work to do at Sparrows Lane AND more squad adjustments next January.
At this stage I'd write off our chances of 90+ points and automatic promotion! Just hope for a decent start against the Orient and that we're good enough for the top six after 23 games. Time will tell.
But let's not rush to judgement until we've seen nine or ten games - see where we are end September.
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Post by seriouslyred on Aug 3, 2023 20:05:53 GMT
First Team From scoham on CL - amended for recent ins and outs: GoalkeepersHarry Isted 2025 (+1 year option) Ashley Maynard-Brewer 2026 Right BacksNathan Asiimwe 2024 Tennai Watson 2025 Centre BacksDeji Elerewe 2024 [suspended for first four games] Lloyd Jones 2025 James Abankwah Loan for 23/24 Lucas Ness 2024 Michael Hector 2024 Terell Thomas 2024 Left BacksTayo Edun 2025 (+1 year option) Richard Chin 2024 Central MidfieldersKaroy Anderson 2027 Panutche Camara 2024 (1 year loan from Ipswich) [Injured] George Dobson 2024 Scott Fraser 2025 [injured] Conor McGrandles 2025 Terry Taylor 2026 Louie Watson Loan for 23/24 Attacking Midfielders/WingersCorey Blackett-Taylor 2024 Chem Campbell Loan for 23/24 Tyreece Campbell 2024 Charlie Kirk 2025 StrikersChuks Aneke 2025 [injured] Slobodan Tedic Loan for 23/24 Daniel Kanu 2024 Miles Leaburn 2025 Alfie May 2025 (+1 year option) Sold / Loaned outMandela Egbo 2024 (+1 year option) Jack Payne 2024 Zach Mitchell 2025 Aaron Henry 2025 (+1 year option) Diallang Jaiyesimi 2024 Loans have arrived and certain players have gone. Let's see which 16 players feature most in the new manager's first 10 fixtures. Edit: I've added injuries / suspensions and underlined the players appearing regularly first on a matchday
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Post by aaronaldo on Aug 3, 2023 21:23:24 GMT
Looks like we need to extend some contracts..
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Post by aaronaldo on Aug 5, 2023 12:11:06 GMT
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Post by seriouslyred on Aug 6, 2023 15:50:05 GMT
Thought I'd take your post from the Orient match thread and reply here seeing as it's all about the squad and not just one game Similar questions and observations in my post above. They either coach and recruit to improve the 3-5-2 or revert to a 4-3-3 / 4-4-2 diamond. We only have one fit top striker plus we haven't yet replaced Rak-Sakyi. We know more having watched a game but we won't have a proper view until the window closes and we've played around nine games. It’s been clear for some time that chunks of our squad don’t naturally fit how Holden wants to play. Yes CBT can play LWB, but is he then going to have the assist and goals of last season? Incredibly unlikely. What’s more likely is that we’ll get neither a good LWB or the goals/assists of a winger. You might be able to coach him a little to improve his defending, but what is the cost? He’s not got the engine to defend and attack. We don’t need to see more games to show that. He’s played enough as LWB now to show this. Aberdeen showed what will happen against better teams. We don’t need 9 more games or the end of the transfer window to see this. Unless you think we may sell CBT/Campbell or if you think Dean is playing this formation for now but will change when he has a full squad? For me, we’re really down in the attacking threat. We’ve lost JRS contribution and potentially nullified CBT’s attacking threat as well. That’s got to be a huge % of what we did last year. I’m not trying to be negative. I’m just not seeing the ‘end game’ currently. How does Holden see it working? Where are we going to get the required amount of goals this year? Where are the assists? Where is our Creativity? Are we playing through the middle? Possession football? Counter attacking? Pumping it up to our strikers? Is our defence capable of enough clean sheets or letting in very few goals? Obviously the target will change the requirements. I don’t see any point in targeting ‘play-off’s though. You target promotion and settle for play-offs if you fall short. You raise some interesting questions: - 5-3-2 is not just a Holden decision but one taken by Scott with the support of the board / SMT - ultimately the investors sign up for this so should have been given a rationale and a timescale plus indications of what to look for in terms of success - It will take more than one window to fully transition. Scott has actually had just 10 weeks in post given that the SMT were booted mid Feb until the takeover completed. And his hands were tied in the first seven weeks. - Holden stated the other day that we are moving away from possesion football that he and Scott inherited. - Before Edun arrived we didn't have any wing-backs! Will we recruit more and/or can Asiimwe add crossing to his game? - CBT contract expires end of this season so is he part of the future or will he be released? - The point of targeting the play-offs is to liven up the crowd and the club. Mid-table is a slow death and transitioning to promotion candidates overnight is a tad ambitious. - Having said that, we all want promotion - who knows where this squad might be after 20 games? - we've spent two or three years mid-table without a cohesive, coherent SMT. Let's just enjoy tangible progress and a coherent narrative We all want results and promotion ASAP. Perhaps just my view but it will take this window, a few games, plus interviews with Scott and Holden to fully understand what they're trying to do. And what they can actually deliver this month, as well as the first 23 before the January window. What's interesting is to see whether they continue with 5-3-2 even without tried and tested wing backs and with only one fit decent striker. You and I might prefer to revert to a 4-3-3 but what do we know?! Not sure we can infer a cunning master plan just yet! We can all see it's a work in progress. Let's hope they secure the quality additions required to ensure that we can stay in the top six. An optimistic view would be that they can secure ALL the players we need over the next few weeks AND coach improvements across the team. Tagging Mundell and reamsofverse as we were talking about this yesterday.
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Post by kings hill addick on Aug 7, 2023 11:38:14 GMT
Thought I'd take your post from the Orient match thread and reply here seeing as it's all about the squad and not just one game It’s been clear for some time that chunks of our squad don’t naturally fit how Holden wants to play. Yes CBT can play LWB, but is he then going to have the assist and goals of last season? Incredibly unlikely. What’s more likely is that we’ll get neither a good LWB or the goals/assists of a winger. You might be able to coach him a little to improve his defending, but what is the cost? He’s not got the engine to defend and attack. We don’t need to see more games to show that. He’s played enough as LWB now to show this. Aberdeen showed what will happen against better teams. We don’t need 9 more games or the end of the transfer window to see this. Unless you think we may sell CBT/Campbell or if you think Dean is playing this formation for now but will change when he has a full squad? For me, we’re really down in the attacking threat. We’ve lost JRS contribution and potentially nullified CBT’s attacking threat as well. That’s got to be a huge % of what we did last year. I’m not trying to be negative. I’m just not seeing the ‘end game’ currently. How does Holden see it working? Where are we going to get the required amount of goals this year? Where are the assists? Where is our Creativity? Are we playing through the middle? Possession football? Counter attacking? Pumping it up to our strikers? Is our defence capable of enough clean sheets or letting in very few goals? Obviously the target will change the requirements. I don’t see any point in targeting ‘play-off’s though. You target promotion and settle for play-offs if you fall short. You raise some interesting questions: - 5-3-2 is not just a Holden decision but one taken by Scott with the support of the board / SMT - ultimately the investors sign up for this so should have been given a rationale and a timescale plus indications of what to look for in terms of success - It will take more than one window to fully transition. Scott has actually had just 10 weeks in post given that the SMT were booted mid Feb until the takeover completed. And his hands were tied in the first seven weeks. - Holden stated the other day that we are moving away from possesion football that he and Scott inherited. - Before Edun arrived we didn't have any wing-backs! Will we recruit more and/or can Asiimwe add crossing to his game? - CBT contract expires end of this season so is he part of the future or will he be released? - The point of targeting the play-offs is to liven up the crowd and the club. Mid-table is a slow death and transitioning to promotion candidates overnight is a tad ambitious. - Having said that, we all want promotion - who knows where this squad might be after 20 games? - we've spent two or three years mid-table without a cohesive, coherent SMT. Let's just enjoy tangible progress and a coherent narrative We all want results and promotion ASAP. Perhaps just my view but it will take this window, a few games, plus interviews with Scott and Holden to fully understand what they're trying to do. And what they can actually deliver this month, as well as the first 23 before the January window. What's interesting is to see whether they continue with 5-3-2 even without tried and tested wing backs and with only one fit decent striker. You and I might prefer to revert to a 4-3-3 but what do we know?! Not sure we can infer a cunning master plan just yet! We can all see it's a work in progress. Let's hope they secure the quality additions required to ensure that we can stay in the top six. An optimistic view would be that they can secure ALL the players we need over the next few weeks AND coach improvements across the team. Tagging Mundell and reamsofverse as we were talking about this yesterday. May I ask, you keep referring to 5-3-2 whereas I think it is 3-5-2 - especially with players like Blackett-Taylor who is, clearly, a winger first. Do you see the line up as five defenders, three midfielders and two strikers? I, actually, think it is a more attacking line-up than a five at the back, with a number 6 in front of them, 'low block'.
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Post by seriouslyred on Aug 7, 2023 12:21:49 GMT
Thought I'd take your post from the Orient match thread and reply here seeing as it's all about the squad and not just one game You raise some interesting questions: - 5-3-2 is not just a Holden decision but one taken by Scott with the support of the board / SMT - ultimately the investors sign up for this so should have been given a rationale and a timescale plus indications of what to look for in terms of success - It will take more than one window to fully transition. Scott has actually had just 10 weeks in post given that the SMT were booted mid Feb until the takeover completed. And his hands were tied in the first seven weeks. - Holden stated the other day that we are moving away from possesion football that he and Scott inherited. - Before Edun arrived we didn't have any wing-backs! Will we recruit more and/or can Asiimwe add crossing to his game? - CBT contract expires end of this season so is he part of the future or will he be released? - The point of targeting the play-offs is to liven up the crowd and the club. Mid-table is a slow death and transitioning to promotion candidates overnight is a tad ambitious. - Having said that, we all want promotion - who knows where this squad might be after 20 games? - we've spent two or three years mid-table without a cohesive, coherent SMT. Let's just enjoy tangible progress and a coherent narrative We all want results and promotion ASAP. Perhaps just my view but it will take this window, a few games, plus interviews with Scott and Holden to fully understand what they're trying to do. And what they can actually deliver this month, as well as the first 23 before the January window. What's interesting is to see whether they continue with 5-3-2 even without tried and tested wing backs and with only one fit decent striker. You and I might prefer to revert to a 4-3-3 but what do we know?! Not sure we can infer a cunning master plan just yet! We can all see it's a work in progress. Let's hope they secure the quality additions required to ensure that we can stay in the top six. An optimistic view would be that they can secure ALL the players we need over the next few weeks AND coach improvements across the team. Tagging Mundell and reamsofverse as we were talking about this yesterday. May I ask, you keep referring to 5-3-2 whereas I think it is 3-5-2 - especially with players like Blackett-Taylor who is, clearly, a winger first. Do you see the line up as five defenders, three midfielders and two strikers? I, actually, think it is a more attacking line-up than a five at the back, with a number 6 in front of them, 'low block'. We are certainly playing three centre backs at all times but CBT is no wing back. So he makes it three up front leading to an asymmetrical 3-4-3. The heat maps on this CL thread illustrate what's actually happening: forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/96466/playing-two-formations-at-the-same-time/p1Does anybody know what formation(s) the Academy sides play?
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Post by seriouslyred on Sept 4, 2023 9:17:58 GMT
Looks like we need to extend some contracts.. Updated the squad list. They certainly need to extend anybody who is playing well in the first XI, namely CBT, Ness, Dobson and Tyreece Campbell. For all we know these players might want to move on so play well as to attract interest from elsewhere!
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Post by aaronaldo on Sept 4, 2023 9:41:41 GMT
Looks like we need to extend some contracts.. Updated the squad list. They certainly need to extend anybody who is playing well in the first XI, namely CBT, Ness, Dobson and Tyreece Campbell. For all we know these players might want to move on so play well as to attract interest from elsewhere! T Watson is a perm for two years not loan.
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Post by seriouslyred on Sept 24, 2023 19:55:20 GMT
First Team From scoham on CL - amended for recent ins and outs: GoalkeepersHarry Isted 2025 (+1 year option) [injured] Ashley Maynard-Brewer 2026 Walker Full BacksNathan Asiimwe 2024 Tennai Watson 2025 Tayo Edun 2025 (+1 year option) Richard Chin 2024 Centre BacksLloyd Jones 2025 James Abankwah Loan for 23/24 Lucas Ness 2024 Michael Hector 2024 Terell Thomas 2024 Central MidfieldersKaroy Anderson 2027 George Dobson 2024 Conor McGrandles 2025 Terry Taylor 2026 [injured] Louie Watson Loan for 23/24 Attacking Midfielders/WingersCorey Blackett-Taylor 2024 Panutche Camara Loan for 23/24 [Injured] Scott Fraser 2025 Chem Campbell Loan for 23/24 Tyreece Campbell 2024 Charlie Kirk 2025 StrikersChuks Aneke 2025 [Injured] Slobodan Tedic Loan for 23/24 Miles Leaburn 2025 Alfie May 2025 (+1 year option) Sold / Loaned outMandela Egbo 2024 (+1 year option) Jack Payne 2024 Zach Mitchell 2025 Deji Elerewe 2024 Daniel Kanu 2024 Aaron Henry 2025 (+1 year option) Diallang Jaiyesimi 2024 Loans have arrived and certain players have gone. Let's see which players feature most in the Appleton's first 15-20 fixtures. Edit: underlined the players appearing regularly on a matchday
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Post by seriouslyred on Nov 5, 2023 22:16:26 GMT
Bump!
Another ten or so games before the January window opens and we've just seen our second string struggle against a non-league side 100 places lower than us.
SE7 have only been in control since late July and Appleton started early September. Surely we need a fair bit of movement in January 2024.
To be fair, our first XI isn't too bad on their day. But the rest either lack talent or motivation. Gonna take much of 2024 to get us to where we want to be.
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Post by ENdeavour on Nov 6, 2023 8:17:16 GMT
The scale of the task was brought into sharp focus last night. We seemingly don’t have much to call upon beyond the 1st XI. It’s not possible to fully repair the damage in Jan so I fear promotion will likely be a step too far this season.
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Post by seriouslyred on Feb 2, 2024 17:35:30 GMT
First Team Squad - amended for January window ins and outs:
Goalkeepers
Harry Isted 2025 (+1 year option)
Ashley Maynard-Brewer 2026
Lewis Ward 2024
Full/Wing Backs
Nathan Asiimwe 2026
Tennai Watson 2025
Tayo Edun 2025 (+1 year option)
Kayne Ramsey 2027
Richard Chin 2024
Centre Backs
Rarmani Edmunds-Green 2026
Macauley Gillesphy 2026
Lloyd Jones 2025
Michael Hector 2024 [Injured]
Lucas Ness 2024
Terell Thomas 2024
Central Midfielders
Karoy Anderson 2027
Tyreeq Bakinson Loan for 23/24
Conor Coventry 2027
George Dobson 2024
Terry Taylor 2026 [injured]
Louie Watson Loan for 23/24
Attacking Midfielders/Wingers
Panutche Camara Loan for 23/24 [Injured]
Tyreece Campbell 2024
Lewis Fiorini Loan for 23/24
Strikers
Chuks Aneke 2025 [Injured]
Freddie Ladapo Loan for 23/24
Daniel Kanu 2024
Miles Leaburn 2025 [Injured]
Alfie May 2025 (+1 year option)
Sold / Loaned out
Mandela Egbo 2024
Jack Payne 2024
Zach Mitchell 2025
Deji Elerewe 2024
Aaron Henry 2025 (+1 year option)
Diallang Jaiyesimi 2024
James Abankwah Loan for 23/24
Scott Fraser 2025
Corey Blackett-Taylor 2024
Chem Campbell Loan for 23/24
Charlie Kirk 2025
Conor McGrandles 2025
Slobodan Tedic Loan for 23/24
Loans have arrived and certain players have gone. Let's see which players feature most in the last 17 fixtures. Have underlined the players appearing regularly on a matchday
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