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Post by Mundell on Oct 18, 2021 12:45:44 GMT
Who do you want in to replace Adkins, hopefully this week. My preferences in order - 1. Ryan Lowe. As highlighted by Mundell article in the Times, a young progressive and imaginative coach, who had done a superb job at Bury & now Plymouth Argyle. 2. Michael Duff. Similar profile to Lowe. Has achieved near miracles on no budget at Cheltenham Town. They played us off the park at the Valley. 3. Micheal Beale. Highly rated by Steven Gerrard among others, and clearly fancies the job. I couldn’t see his radical ideas working under the current set up, but he’d be a very bold choice. 4. Jackson as caretaker IF Curbs was his mentor. Otherwise, no. Lack of experience counts against him, plus our dreadful defending this season, which he is accountable for as defensive coach. Of others currently in work who might be tempted by a decent offer from Sandgaard, I’d look at Warne at Rotherham and Ainsworth at Wycombe. Before BB starts with his straw men, nobody wants Pulis, McCarthy or Jimmy Sirrell at the Valley, and we know our owner can’t afford Wilder or Eddie Howe. The problem is that 1 and 2 would be expensive as TS would have to buy them out of existing contracts - we don't appear to have the budgets under TS that we had under RD. Neither of them would resign from current roles to get into a relegation fight with a team they have not recruited. I like 3, but would he risk trashing his reputation to come and try to keep us up. And definitely not number 4 - there has been a constant in the dressing room over the last 3 seasons and it's not Ged Roddy. JJ was a great player, but not sure how well he is cut out to be a coach. From pre-match warm ups I get the chance he is in charge of drilling and coaching the defenders. We need a clear out of the stables. Beale is the most attractive of the 4 you mention. But we saw that TS wouldn't pull the trigger on LB. How likely is he to change behaviour on someone that he appointed? It will be very interesting to see what Sandgaard does tonaddick He may well be loath to spend more money, but he’ll know that if he doesn’t the hole he’s in could well just keep getting deeper. It’s a classic good money after bad scenario and an appalling dilemma that is part and parcel of the crazy world of football club ownership. It’s very clear that when Sandgaard rode in on his white charger, wearing his shiny armour, he had no real idea what he was getting himself into. |
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Post by earlpurple on Oct 18, 2021 14:49:12 GMT
Just please let the next manager not play one up front. I don't care if it works for some other teams, it's always come across to me as a negative strategy.
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Post by tonaddick on Oct 19, 2021 7:47:14 GMT
The problem is that 1 and 2 would be expensive as TS would have to buy them out of existing contracts - we don't appear to have the budgets under TS that we had under RD. Neither of them would resign from current roles to get into a relegation fight with a team they have not recruited. I like 3, but would he risk trashing his reputation to come and try to keep us up. And definitely not number 4 - there has been a constant in the dressing room over the last 3 seasons and it's not Ged Roddy. JJ was a great player, but not sure how well he is cut out to be a coach. From pre-match warm ups I get the chance he is in charge of drilling and coaching the defenders. We need a clear out of the stables. Beale is the most attractive of the 4 you mention. But we saw that TS wouldn't pull the trigger on LB. How likely is he to change behaviour on someone that he appointed? It will be very interesting to see what Sandgaard does tonaddick He may well be loath to spend more money, but he’ll know that if he doesn’t the hole he’s in could well just keep getting deeper. It’s a classic good money after bad scenario and an appalling dilemma that is part and parcel of the crazy world of football club ownership. It’s very clear that when Sandgaard rode in on his white charger, wearing his shiny armour, he had no real idea what he was getting himself into. I think the next four weeks will help to define the future of the club. I’m hoping for some investment in the squad to get us into the mid table area. But I worry about three things - how much that will be, who will be accountable for spending it and how we convince people to join a genuine relegation fight. |
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Post by bexleyboy on Oct 19, 2021 9:18:13 GMT
The window shut ?
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Oct 19, 2021 12:55:51 GMT
Serious suggestion that I haven't seen mentioned elsewhere: Claus Jensen.
Ticks every box necessary:
1. Is a former player so will keep the bedwetters on another forum happy.
2. Is Danish so will keep Sandgaard happy.
3. Is a millionaire who has invested a load of his own money in the club he manages (TS wants more investors yeah)?
FWIW Jensen in his first job as a manager. He took over as manager of Danish club Nykobing, which he part-owns, last summer and led them to promotion to the second tier in his first season. His assistant manager is his cousin, so they will probably come as a package. Nykobing look rooted to mid-table this season and recently abandoned plans to get promotion to the Superliga any time soon. They seem to be stagnating so manybe Jensen is up for a new challenge. Despite Charlton's current lowly position we have 15x the average gates and 5x the squad value of Nykobing so may be an attractive prospect (I assume he'd want to keep his investment/shareholding there though, so not sure how the rules work re that).
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Post by reamsofverse on Oct 19, 2021 15:02:20 GMT
I have know knowledge of who the next owner may be or even if the flawed SMT are even looking for one but I suspect that if Adkins does go Roddy will be involved in finding a replacement and I just wonder whether he may look to a former CAFC player and former Reading boss Mark Bowen. He is a good bloke is Mark and was at Reading at the same time as Roddy. I recall that they were in the shit languishing in 23rd when he took over and steered them to 14th place and safety.
It's a not a decision for me, I think we need somebody at the top end of the who's available list but the problem there of course is money.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2021 16:25:14 GMT
I have know knowledge of who the next owner may be or even if the flawed SMT are even looking for one but I suspect that if Adkins does go Roddy will be involved in finding a replacement and I just wonder whether he may look to a former CAFC player and former Reading boss Mark Bowen. He is a good bloke is Mark and was at Reading at the same time as Roddy. I recall that they were in the shit languishing in 23rd when he took over and steered them to 14th place and safety. It's a not a decision for me, I think we need somebody at the top end of the who's available list but the problem there of course is money. That’s the last thing we need. Roddy has massively fucked up once in appointing his pal Adkins, he needs holding to account too & removing from his post. People are getting seriously pissed off with Roddy as well now. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Oct 19, 2021 18:05:50 GMT
I hadn't realised until today that Michael Flynn left Newport at the beginning of the month.
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Post by thevalleybest on Oct 19, 2021 18:09:46 GMT
Adkins just called us a Big Football Club .
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Post by manikin on Oct 19, 2021 18:13:05 GMT
Adkins just called us a Big Football Club . Those were the days! |
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Post by tonaddick on Oct 19, 2021 18:13:07 GMT
Adkins just called us a Big Football Club . I'm not sure who his pop was aimed at, but basically called a few of his players out for not having the mentality to play at a club of our size - "they should go to a smaller club and coast". |
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Post by thevalleybest on Oct 19, 2021 18:15:38 GMT
Adkins just called us a Big Football Club . I'm not sure who his pop was aimed at, but basically called a few of his players out for not having the mentality to play at a club of our size - "they should go to a smaller club and coast". Yes and he said no hiding,Low Attendance tonight and Curbs said get behind the team.Cant they see no one wants too go . |
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Post by earlpurple on Oct 19, 2021 18:36:52 GMT
Very low attendance. I can't remember seeing it so empty here before
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Post by sittingbourne11 on Dec 2, 2023 16:08:19 GMT
Next manager is ?
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Post by aaronaldo on Dec 2, 2023 16:36:54 GMT
I really hope we do some actual succession planning ahead of our next manager. We might not have long |
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Post by sittingbourne11 on Dec 2, 2023 17:19:40 GMT
Appleton was never a good choice he has a list of failures as long as Charlton’s list of awful managers starting from Mr Dowie.
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Post by manikin on Dec 2, 2023 17:35:42 GMT
We need a quality manager and quick, but that's gonna cost. A complete rebuild over the next two windows, but I guess that's not gonna happen.
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Post by pardew123 on Dec 2, 2023 19:39:41 GMT
Yes but Apples was cheap hence the appointment we were never in for anyone of substance
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Post by dartford36 on Dec 2, 2023 20:10:25 GMT
How do you define quality manager at League 1 level? Some of the names being mentioned before his appointment were pie in the sky - if we were Championship different matter, but I guess Appleton was the best of the bunch and he now has to do what he can with the players at his disposal.
Whether January will give him the tools he requires to do the job satisfactorily remains to be seen.
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Post by aucklandaddick on Dec 2, 2023 22:45:12 GMT
MA has had no involvement in the recruiting of this side yet his overall record since he got here has been pretty good…
We don’t need chopping and changing of managers, we need better recruitment and more experienced leaders in the team
Portsmouth didn’t seem to have too much trouble recruiting a team to seriously challenge for the league…. Would be interesting to see how our playing budget compares to theirs? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
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Post by sevenoaks on Dec 3, 2023 9:24:07 GMT
MA has had no involvement in the recruiting of this side yet his overall record since he got here has been pretty good… We don’t need chopping and changing of managers, we need better recruitment and more experienced leaders in the team Portsmouth didn’t seem to have too much trouble recruiting a team to seriously challenge for the league…. Would be interesting to see how our playing budget compares to theirs? 🤔🤔🤔🤔 Knowing us, ours is probably higher than theirs. |
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Post by bexleyboy on Dec 3, 2023 12:52:31 GMT
We need a quality manager and quick, but that's gonna cost. A complete rebuild over the next two windows, but I guess that's not gonna happen. Do behave .. what is it 3 defeats in 17 ? And he using someone else’s squad …. MA done an excellent job unfortunately it looks like injuries might disrail us again , but let’s just stay in touch like we are now and get the 3/4 players we need in jan plus Camara , Aneke coming back over Xmas/ new year and we still have a real chance of top 6 |
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Post by bexleyboy on Dec 3, 2023 12:53:25 GMT
MA has had no involvement in the recruiting of this side yet his overall record since he got here has been pretty good… We don’t need chopping and changing of managers, we need better recruitment and more experienced leaders in the team Portsmouth didn’t seem to have too much trouble recruiting a team to seriously challenge for the league…. Would be interesting to see how our playing budget compares to theirs? 🤔🤔🤔🤔 How many years/ windows has it taken Pompey to get top spot .. ?? |
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Post by aaronaldo on Dec 3, 2023 14:21:42 GMT
I’m not calling for Appleton to go, but I’m also not convinced he was much of an upgrade compared to Holden.
It will be interesting to see how he does over the next few months when he’s starting to lose key players. That for me was a lot of Holdens issue.
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Post by reamsofverse on Dec 3, 2023 15:28:47 GMT
MA has had no involvement in the recruiting of this side yet his overall record since he got here has been pretty good… We don’t need chopping and changing of managers, we need better recruitment and more experienced leaders in the team Portsmouth didn’t seem to have too much trouble recruiting a team to seriously challenge for the league…. Would be interesting to see how our playing budget compares to theirs? 🤔🤔🤔🤔 How many years/ windows has it taken Pompey to get top spot .. ?? As soon as they signed a few good players including Colby Bishop they lead the table. Proof that spending gets you where you need to be as opposed to loans. |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Dec 3, 2023 17:13:05 GMT
MA has had no involvement in the recruiting of this side yet his overall record since he got here has been pretty good… We don’t need chopping and changing of managers, we need better recruitment and more experienced leaders in the team Portsmouth didn’t seem to have too much trouble recruiting a team to seriously challenge for the league…. Would be interesting to see how our playing budget compares to theirs? 🤔🤔🤔🤔 How many years/ windows has it taken Pompey to get top spot .. ?? Only really this one, they have been pretty average over the last few seasons They went out with real intent and brought in their quality squad really early I seem to recall you saying during the summer that you wouldn’t really want any of their signings, do you still stand by those comments with them sitting at the top of the league and us where we are after our signings 😂😂 |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Dec 3, 2023 17:15:59 GMT
We need a quality manager and quick, but that's gonna cost. A complete rebuild over the next two windows, but I guess that's not gonna happen. Do behave .. what is it 3 defeats in 17 ? And he using someone else’s squad …. MA done an excellent job unfortunately it looks like injuries might disrail us again , but let’s just stay in touch like we are now and get the 3/4 players we need in jan plus Camara , Aneke coming back over Xmas/ new year and we still have a real chance of top 6 Every club gets injuries, but the clubs that are serious about challenging bring in enough quality in all areas to counter this, |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Dec 3, 2023 17:34:00 GMT
MA has had no involvement in the recruiting of this side yet his overall record since he got here has been pretty good… We don’t need chopping and changing of managers, we need better recruitment and more experienced leaders in the team Portsmouth didn’t seem to have too much trouble recruiting a team to seriously challenge for the league…. Would be interesting to see how our playing budget compares to theirs? 🤔🤔🤔🤔 Knowing us, ours is probably higher than theirs. Exactly my point Sevenoaks, I looked at their signings one by one as they came in and thought yeah they are going to challenge I looked at ours admittedly during a shortened period in the summer and didn’t get that same feeling MA seems to be getting a real kicking at present when this is not his team……we seem to have this desire to chop and change and find the holy grail of the perfect manager for the club but without the right recruitment I think even Pep would fail The jury is out for me with Scott at present but I am really hoping he proves me wrong in the next two windows |
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Post by madz on Dec 4, 2023 10:29:09 GMT
I still think we are 2 decent centre backs (and a left back cover) away from being a decent team. Confidence up front starts at the back. MA must know we need stronger/better defenders. We seem to be able to score goals and create chances, but there is always the risk of us leaking really poor goals and that adds to the nervousness of the team as a whole. When we got promoted to Prem via the play offs with Curbs he went out and bought Youds and Mills when everyone else thought we needed more goal threats (me included). Yet steadying the defence made a huge difference to our team and that made the difference. MA and Scott MUST do this at the next window or 2.
As others have said MA had no say in our recruitment, a lot of the players he has been given have been poor. Lets see what happens over the next 2 windows. I don't agree with changing the manager again. Like with Chelsea, is the problem always the manager or is it the players just being not good enough or not caring enough?
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Post by kings hill addick on Dec 4, 2023 12:43:26 GMT
I don't think we have the players to be any higher up the table than we are.
We finished 7th after we were relegated and since then we have been pretty average mid-table. That has been the quality of the players we have signed (on average - clearly some are better than others) and until the quality of players is addressed that is where we will stay.
Sandgaard managed to put together a mid-table squad with a top four budget. That is going to take a lot of money, and/or a long time, to correct. I don't think the current owners are going spend money to speed up the process, so we have to accept that, until we can move on the likes of Kirk and Aneke (and a few others), we are not going to threaten the top six or the bottom four.
Changing the manager does nothing other than provide those running the club someone to blame. As the current ownership appointed Holden and Appleton, in the space of ten months, that trick won't work again. Appleton has been successful elsewhere so until, and unless, they give him the players that are good enough, they might as well leave him in post.
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