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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 5:11:20 GMT
This has been a really bad week for the new owners. After the very bullish press interview with Matt Southall and the mention of a five year contract for Lee Bowyer. No contract signed yet, Conor Gallagher's loan terminated. A fee agreed for Marcus Maddison but we are miles away from agreeing his wages. To top it all we now hear that we don't own the Valley or the Training ground. Also our first team are decimated with injuries. Where are the three to four quality signings? I know that there is still two weeks of the transfer window to go but we need reinforcements now.
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Post by jeddez on Jan 16, 2020 7:36:57 GMT
I’d call it a mixed week, nothing there that cannot be sorted. It’s the craziness of the January window and they (ESI) are keen to make an impact so delayed DD to get the purchase done quicker to give Lee some needed funds.
Connors termination has been handled terribly by Chelski after being given assurances he’ll be staying but we have to move on...
The fact we’ve had a bid accepted is a positive but well known he don’t want to move south so will cost more to convince, I’d rather find another target if his heart isn’t with CAFC...
Still a couple of days to go...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 7:50:20 GMT
With a mixed week you need some good news as well as bad news. I fail to see the good news.
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Post by jeddez on Jan 16, 2020 8:06:44 GMT
There is still time Dick 😉
However,
We have new owners looking to buy players with fees.
We have already had bids accepted
Players are on their way back from injuries
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Post by massivebeak on Jan 16, 2020 8:06:50 GMT
With a mixed week you need some good news as well as bad news. I fail to see the good news. Fair one!
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Post by AndyAddick on Jan 16, 2020 8:28:09 GMT
I’d call it a mixed week, nothing there that cannot be sorted. It’s the craziness of the January window and they (ESI) are keen to make an impact so delayed DD to get the purchase done quicker to give Lee some needed funds. Connors termination has been handled terribly by Chelski after being given assurances he’ll be staying but we have to move on... The fact we’ve had a bid accepted is a positive but well known he don’t want to move south so will cost more to convince, I’d rather find another target if his heart isn’t with CAFC... Still a couple of days to go... Delaying DD is BS ! They were sniffing around last august ! They could have done it then , lame excuse
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Post by jeddez on Jan 16, 2020 8:39:55 GMT
I’d call it a mixed week, nothing there that cannot be sorted. It’s the craziness of the January window and they (ESI) are keen to make an impact so delayed DD to get the purchase done quicker to give Lee some needed funds. Connors termination has been handled terribly by Chelski after being given assurances he’ll be staying but we have to move on... The fact we’ve had a bid accepted is a positive but well known he don’t want to move south so will cost more to convince, I’d rather find another target if his heart isn’t with CAFC... Still a couple of days to go... Delaying DD is BS ! They were sniffing around last august ! They could have done it then , lame excuse You can only do DD when given permission by the owner, he will only give permission if an acceptable offer is made. You may be right but I don’t believe so.
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Post by pulled off at half time on Jan 16, 2020 8:53:53 GMT
Still can’t understand why they would gamble with relegation after spending so much on buying the club. They do need some positive news before going into a tough away game with Preston. Slip into the bottom 3 and it will be even harder to convince players to join
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Post by mikebassett on Jan 16, 2020 8:55:51 GMT
Mixed week?!
- Offered Lee Bowyer a long-term contract, positive. - Berem Kayal’s loan terminated, positive. - Conor Gallagher’s loan terminated, not our fault it happened but a negative nonetheless. - Agreed a fee for Marcus Maddison, positive.
Positives outweigh the negatives.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 8:57:56 GMT
Mixed week?! - Offered Lee Bowyer a long-term contract, positive. - Berem Kayal’s loan terminated, positive. - Conor Gallagher’s loan terminated, not our fault it happened but a negative nonetheless. - Agreed a fee for Marcus Maddison, positive. Positives outweigh the negatives. Only if they sign
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Post by massivebeak on Jan 16, 2020 9:01:51 GMT
Still can’t understand why they would gamble with relegation after spending so much on buying the club. They do need some positive news before going into a tough away game with Preston. Slip into the bottom 3 and it will be even harder to convince players to join Massive point that- the negative impact in regards to attracting players if we slip into the relegation places.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 9:18:02 GMT
Mixed week?! - Offered Lee Bowyer a long-term contract, positive. - Berem Kayal’s loan terminated, positive. - Conor Gallagher’s loan terminated, not our fault it happened but a negative nonetheless. - Agreed a fee for Marcus Maddison, positive. Positives outweigh the negatives. Lee Bowyer- not signed a contract negative. Beram Kayal- not played for us - irrelevant. Conor Gallagher- Loan terminated massive negative. Marcus Maddison- Can't agree a fee- negative Not owning the Valley and training ground- negative Not bringing any players in apart from Green- negative. It's not a positive if somebody has been offered something. It is only a positive when they sign it. Am feeling quite down about the new owners. The time for talk is over for them. Stop trying to impress and be friends with everybody on Twitter. Sign Bowyer on a long contract. Sign some players who are going to help us stay up.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 9:19:52 GMT
I don't know how much of the rumour mill is true, but two of the players we were looking at seem to have involved a bit of mucking us about. Both Blackpool with their striker, and Maddison with his contract, are reputed to have demanded extra cash at the moment of signing, and on both occasions we have, rightly in my opinion, walked away. While it's nice to have money to spend finally, should we really just sit back and let everyone mug us off on prices and wages? The problem is thanks to our injury crisis, we have a desperate need to get in some decent signings, and the Gallagher situation has exasperated that, but Southall mentioned sustainability last week, and paying over the odds for league one players isn't a good way of getting a sustainable model. Like everyone else, I am getting desperate to see some movement on the transfer market, but going off half cocked and paying whatever silly money other clubs demand isn't a good start, and a lot of those moaning now about lack of signings, will also be moaning if we get another naby Sarr on a contract we can't afford and the new player turns out to be not good enough come april. Gallen and Bowyer are on new ground here with financial backing - let's trust them to get the players they need.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 16, 2020 9:27:30 GMT
Matt the mouth also said in one of his first interviews that relegation was not an option but then piped up last week that it could happen!!
Perhaps they think that having four or five youngsters playing in the championship at the moment would save them wads of money buying new players for that division next season where the kids would feel more at home.
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Post by mikebassett on Jan 16, 2020 9:40:48 GMT
Mixed week?! - Offered Lee Bowyer a long-term contract, positive. - Berem Kayal’s loan terminated, positive. - Conor Gallagher’s loan terminated, not our fault it happened but a negative nonetheless. - Agreed a fee for Marcus Maddison, positive. Positives outweigh the negatives. Lee Bowyer- not signed a contract negative. Beram Kayal- not played for us - irrelevant. Conor Gallagher- Loan terminated massive negative. Marcus Maddison- Can't agree a fee- negative Not owning the Valley and training ground- negative Not bringing any players in apart from Green- negative. It's not a positive if somebody has been offered something. It is only a positive when they sign it. Am feeling quite down about the new owners. The time for talk is over for them. Stop trying to impress and be friends with everybody on Twitter. Sign Bowyer on a long contract. Sign some players who are going to help us stay up. Bowyer - Offered a contract about a week ago, there’s no rush. He’s not being actively chased, AFAIK, by any other clubs. I’m not worried by this. Kayal - It frees up a loan spot and possibly wages, too. Him being gone is a positive. Gives the club opportunities to replace him/sign others. Gallagher - Not the club’s doing that he was recalled, can’t really point the finger anywhere. Maddison - Window still has a couple of weeks left before it closes, it’s not a worry (yet). Not owning The Valley - the new owners have been in charge for what, ten days to two weeks? As nice as it would be to own the ground, I’m not sure you could expect this deal to be finalised within two weeks. It will be complex and time consuming. Not bringing players in - The month is sixteen days in, we’ve “lost” three days due to matches and the takeover wasn’t announced and ratified till the second so that’s another two days lost and we’ve had two Sunday’s thus far, when teams don’t sign players so we’ve actually had about nine “working days” to do some business, in which time we’ve brought one in and have had a bid (involving a transfer fee) accepted for another player. Patience people.
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Post by lukepiestalker on Jan 16, 2020 10:47:16 GMT
Was obviously going to be a test for the new crew hand I'm inclined to start to judge once the window it's done not halfway though, then re judge once the players settle. However, any new players need to settle fast and Im sure Lee will know this and make it happen. We will be a very up in the air 12 months after at least whilst the various issues already mentioned settle.
As long as we don't go down that is all that matters this season, for me anyway and we may well be thanking teams with issues worse than ours come May. If so, so be it.
Keep your eyes on the very simple prize.
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Post by scabbyhorse on Jan 16, 2020 11:49:13 GMT
For God's sake Bowyer hasn't even signed his contract yet!!!! And we keep looking to see if anyone has signed! If we cannot agree a deal with our manager who wants to be here what chance have we of convincing players to sign , fucking laughable. At this stage there is a very real possibility we will be in league 1 again.
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Post by ExeterAddick on Jan 16, 2020 11:53:20 GMT
Protests at the next game? You bring the balloons, I'll dig out the plastic pigs.
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Post by scabbyhorse on Jan 16, 2020 11:56:24 GMT
Protests at the next game? You bring the balloons, I'll dig out the plastic pigs. Nah feck that I ain't blowing 3000 balloons up , I'll dress up as pinocchio instead.
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Post by squareball on Jan 16, 2020 12:15:36 GMT
I see the owner as part-owner as RD still owns the major assets. They may have only paid a quid for the club (no less than 30p and no more than 50p for MS) and are waiting to avoid relegation to pay up the actual major money in the summer. If we get relegated are they walking away? Anyone know how much they bought the club for? I know Douche was saying he’d give it away at one point. Did RM buy it for a quid or maybe sold it for a quid to the spivs?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 18:03:21 GMT
His Excellency Tahnoon Nimer, wrote his first column as director and majority shareholder of Charlton Athletic in last Saturday's Valley Review. Read what he had to say, in full, in the column below... It is with true pleasure that I write these notes following the successful takeover of Charlton Athletic by East Street Investments. Even now, more than a week later, those words are just as exciting to me. When I was first approached with this opportunity, I treated it like any other potential business investment. Myself and my team did our research, we looked at the business angles and prepared both a short and long-term strategy. But what became clear very quickly was that, while the business model may be similar to other investments I have made over the years, the emotions are so very different. With any football club, you realise that you are never talking about cold, hard facts or the bottom line of a transaction, you are dealing with the very heart and soul of a community. And with Charlton, it became very obvious what that means. I do not claim to be an expert on English football history but I have read everything I can about the club. The first to have fan representation on the board. The fight to get back to The Valley driven by supporters who sacrificed so much and the leading role the club has played in so many different areas of local life. As owners, we have to embrace that feeling. The times I spoke to Matt Southall after he had been to matches and met with fans helped me believe we can make a difference to Charlton Athletic with a sensible business plan and a determination to strengthen the whole football club. I am more excited by this latest venture than I have been about anything else for a long time. Sport stirs passion and football stirs those passions more than any other sport in the world. To play just a small part in that is inspiring. More than anything, I am anxious to experience the atmosphere at The Valley for myself. As some of you may have seen from my social media, I travel a lot and find myself in many different countries on business. But at the earliest opportunity, I will be in London to watch a game and to hopefully meet as many of you as possible. This is an adventure for me and for East Street Investments. It is an adventure I want to last for many years. Thank you and I look forward to seeing you very soon. His Excellency Tahnoon Nimer www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/5e208cb79a079/he-tahnoon-it-is-an-adventure-i-want-to-last-for-many-years
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Post by hairyhotdog on Jan 20, 2020 7:47:22 GMT
Charlton's new Al Ain-based owners outline five-year 'masterplan' to take London club back to the Premier League The purchase of the second-tier English football club was completed by East Street Investment (ESI) on January 2, with board member Tahnoon Nimer in talks with Al Ain Football Club on how the two clubs can 'join hands' Tahnoon Nimer, chairman of Al Ain-based Abu Dhabi Business Development, the majority shareholder of ESI, sits on the Charlton Athletic board as a director The takeover of Charlton Athletic by an Al Ain-based consortium will prompt a strong collaboration between the English club and the emirate of Abu Dhabi, high-ranking members of the new board have told The National. The purchase of the second-tier English football club was completed by East Street Investment (ESI) on January 2 after an agreement to buy was first announced in November, subject to approval by the Football League. Tahnoon Nimer, chairman of Al Ain-based Abu Dhabi Business Development (ADBD) - the private office of Sheikh Saeed bin Tahnoun – and the majority shareholder in ESI through his corporation, Panorama Magic General Contracting, sits on the new board as a director. He is joined by ADBD chief executive Jonathan Heller, while Matt Southall has been installed as club chairman. Currently, Charlton lie 19th in the Championship, five points above the relegation zone. Promoted from League One last season, they last competed in the English Premier League in 2007. Speaking to The National, Nimer said the board has a five-year “masterplan” but in the short term wants “absolute stability” before focusing attention on regaining Premier League status. “We are working now to make the fans happy,” he said, adding that he would soon take in his first match at The Valley, Charlton's home ground in south London. Nimer said he is talking to his local club, Al Ain, about “how we can join hands” and build ties between the two, with possible player loans to follow, particularly youth players. Charlton hope to bring the squad to Abu Dhabi for a training camp towards the end of the Championship season, possibly the beginning of May, with the team expected to become regular visitors to the capital. Southall, who spent time at Al Ain’s Hazza bin Zayed Stadium last week, said the club were seeking to establish commercial partnerships in the Middle East, using Nimer's knowledge of, and close relationships in, the region. Southall said he speaks daily with Nimer’s advisors, especially as Charlton look to add to the squad this January as they attempt to achieve their immediate target of remaining in the Championship. On the potential player-exchange between Charlton and clubs within the UAE, Southall added: “Going forward we could potentially send players here on loan from our academy; they may send players to us. “It's only good for the profile of their club if they've got a player who's playing in our first team, and it’s good for the profile of football out here if they've got a player from England playing in their team as well. So there's definitely scope to build relationships with clubs out here.” Southall said also that provisions are in place should Charlton be relegated this season, and that a return to League One would not impact significantly the club’s ability to generate revenue from Gulf sponsors. “Given the fact that we're already quite streamlined, as long as we can continue to increase the commercial revenues, the partners that we're speaking to in the Middle East, they're wanting to get involved because of their relationship with Tahnoon,” Southall said. “Regardless of whether we're in League One or the Championship or the Premier League, they know our long-term vision, our long-term plan.” Southall was wary of comparisons made, understandably, with Abu Dhabi’s acquisition of Manchester City in 2008. However, he said that, like City, the Charlton board would not concentrate solely on the development of the football team, with a number of projects, including a brand new training complex spanning almost 40 acres, in the pipeline. Work on the training ground is scheduled to begin this summer. “Obviously we’re a totally separate entity to the guys at Manchester City,” Southall said. “When I sat down with Tahnoon and his advisers I outlined my vision and my way and how I feel we could move the club forward. “And that isn’t the same as when Sheikh Mansour looked at Man City; they were in the Premier League then. There’s so much more money in the Premier League than there is the Championship. “So that would’ve been a different vision to what I’ve got Tahnoon to buy into. It’s not really comparable. But the fact they’ve taken the local community, they’ve expanded it, the campus, they’ve invested into all the regeneration around the ground. They do a lot of work in the community, so there are similarities. But in terms of structure it’s completely different.” A former Dubai resident, Southall has been working with ADBD since last year and said he had long considered Charlton for acquisition, particularly given its base in London. He began conversations about a takeover with then-owner Roland Duchatelet in mid-August, with the bid moving forward at pace. “The price Roman wanted was excessive for other people, but the fact of the potential of the projects and the value if you do get to the Premier League - look at Aston Villa, Crystal Palace, they’d sell at about £220 million [Dh1 billion] - so that's the numbers you're talking there. “So £50m investment and obviously money on top for players, ultimately if you do get there, you get a good return on your investment. It didn't really take much convincing. The location, the ties with the local community, the manager [Lee Bowyer], the academy: Tahnoon just said, ‘Go and work the deal.’” Meanwhile, Nimer said that, in time, ESI would consider acquiring a club in another country, but for now its priority is Charlton. www.thenational.ae/sport/football/charlton-s-new-al-ain-based-owners-outline-five-year-masterplan-to-take-london-club-back-to-the-premier-league-1.966704
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 20, 2020 7:55:06 GMT
Charlton's new Al Ain-based owners outline five-year 'masterplan' to take London club back to the Premier League The purchase of the second-tier English football club was completed by East Street Investment (ESI) on January 2, with board member Tahnoon Nimer in talks with Al Ain Football Club on how the two clubs can 'join hands' Tahnoon Nimer, chairman of Al Ain-based Abu Dhabi Business Development, the majority shareholder of ESI, sits on the Charlton Athletic board as a director The takeover of Charlton Athletic by an Al Ain-based consortium will prompt a strong collaboration between the English club and the emirate of Abu Dhabi, high-ranking members of the new board have told The National. The purchase of the second-tier English football club was completed by East Street Investment (ESI) on January 2 after an agreement to buy was first announced in November, subject to approval by the Football League. Tahnoon Nimer, chairman of Al Ain-based Abu Dhabi Business Development (ADBD) - the private office of Sheikh Saeed bin Tahnoun – and the majority shareholder in ESI through his corporation, Panorama Magic General Contracting, sits on the new board as a director. He is joined by ADBD chief executive Jonathan Heller, while Matt Southall has been installed as club chairman. Currently, Charlton lie 19th in the Championship, five points above the relegation zone. Promoted from League One last season, they last competed in the English Premier League in 2007. Speaking to The National, Nimer said the board has a five-year “masterplan” but in the short term wants “absolute stability” before focusing attention on regaining Premier League status. “We are working now to make the fans happy,” he said, adding that he would soon take in his first match at The Valley, Charlton's home ground in south London. Nimer said he is talking to his local club, Al Ain, about “how we can join hands” and build ties between the two, with possible player loans to follow, particularly youth players. Charlton hope to bring the squad to Abu Dhabi for a training camp towards the end of the Championship season, possibly the beginning of May, with the team expected to become regular visitors to the capital. Southall, who spent time at Al Ain’s Hazza bin Zayed Stadium last week, said the club were seeking to establish commercial partnerships in the Middle East, using Nimer's knowledge of, and close relationships in, the region. Southall said he speaks daily with Nimer’s advisors, especially as Charlton look to add to the squad this January as they attempt to achieve their immediate target of remaining in the Championship. On the potential player-exchange between Charlton and clubs within the UAE, Southall added: “Going forward we could potentially send players here on loan from our academy; they may send players to us. “It's only good for the profile of their club if they've got a player who's playing in our first team, and it’s good for the profile of football out here if they've got a player from England playing in their team as well. So there's definitely scope to build relationships with clubs out here.” Southall said also that provisions are in place should Charlton be relegated this season, and that a return to League One would not impact significantly the club’s ability to generate revenue from Gulf sponsors. “Given the fact that we're already quite streamlined, as long as we can continue to increase the commercial revenues, the partners that we're speaking to in the Middle East, they're wanting to get involved because of their relationship with Tahnoon,” Southall said. “Regardless of whether we're in League One or the Championship or the Premier League, they know our long-term vision, our long-term plan.” Southall was wary of comparisons made, understandably, with Abu Dhabi’s acquisition of Manchester City in 2008. However, he said that, like City, the Charlton board would not concentrate solely on the development of the football team, with a number of projects, including a brand new training complex spanning almost 40 acres, in the pipeline. Work on the training ground is scheduled to begin this summer. “Obviously we’re a totally separate entity to the guys at Manchester City,” Southall said. “When I sat down with Tahnoon and his advisers I outlined my vision and my way and how I feel we could move the club forward. “And that isn’t the same as when Sheikh Mansour looked at Man City; they were in the Premier League then. There’s so much more money in the Premier League than there is the Championship. “So that would’ve been a different vision to what I’ve got Tahnoon to buy into. It’s not really comparable. But the fact they’ve taken the local community, they’ve expanded it, the campus, they’ve invested into all the regeneration around the ground. They do a lot of work in the community, so there are similarities. But in terms of structure it’s completely different.” A former Dubai resident, Southall has been working with ADBD since last year and said he had long considered Charlton for acquisition, particularly given its base in London. He began conversations about a takeover with then-owner Roland Duchatelet in mid-August, with the bid moving forward at pace. “The price Roman wanted was excessive for other people, but the fact of the potential of the projects and the value if you do get to the Premier League - look at Aston Villa, Crystal Palace, they’d sell at about £220 million [Dh1 billion] - so that's the numbers you're talking there. “So £50m investment and obviously money on top for players, ultimately if you do get there, you get a good return on your investment. It didn't really take much convincing. The location, the ties with the local community, the manager [Lee Bowyer], the academy: Tahnoon just said, ‘Go and work the deal.’” Meanwhile, Nimer said that, in time, ESI would consider acquiring a club in another country, but for now its priority is Charlton. www.thenational.ae/sport/football/charlton-s-new-al-ain-based-owners-outline-five-year-masterplan-to-take-london-club-back-to-the-premier-league-1.966704Southall is a fake who changes his story on a daily basis. He's a bullshitter. That article by that Benji chap yestetday was the work of the club as a pre- warning that not much will be done this month in terms of bringing players in. He's changed his tune about relegation too. It wasn't an option in one of his early interviews but apparantly it is now.
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Post by Fans4Fans on Jan 20, 2020 8:19:20 GMT
The guy spouts more shit than a sewer. Relegation, lack of additions and a network no.2.
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Post by thevalleybest on Jan 20, 2020 8:34:22 GMT
They have no decent players out there.
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Post by AndyAddick on Jan 20, 2020 8:38:30 GMT
This is not what we want to hear ,
‘ Southall said also that provisions are in place should Charlton be relegated this season, and that a return to League One would not impact significantly the club’s ability to generate revenue from Gulf sponsors.
“Given the fact that we're already quite streamlined, as long as we can continue to increase the commercial revenues, the partners that we're speaking to in the Middle East, they're wanting to get involved because of their relationship with Tahnoon,” Southall said. “Regardless of whether we're in League One or the Championship or the Premier League, they know our long-term vision, our long-term plan.”
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Post by thevalleybest on Jan 20, 2020 8:39:49 GMT
There are 2 decent Emirati players, but both play for another Abu Dhabi club, Al Jazira and their chairman is the Man City owner.
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Post by thevalleybest on Jan 20, 2020 8:41:30 GMT
From Wikipedia The club was founded in 1968 by players from Al Ain, members of a Bahraini group of exchange students and the Sudanese community working in the United Arab Emirates.[1]
Al Ain is by far the most successful club in the UAE.[2] The team quickly gained popularity and recognition throughout the country, being the team with the most tournament titles (32 in total).[3] Al Ain has won a record 13 UAE Pro-League titles, 6 President's Cups, 3 Federation Cups, 1 Arabian Gulf Cup, a record 5 Super Cups, two Abu Dhabi Championship Cups, one Joint League Cup, Emirati-Moroccan Super Cup, Gulf Club Champions Cup and AFC Champions League. The club is the first and only UAE side so far to win the AFC Champions League.[4]
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Post by Mundell on Jan 20, 2020 9:09:51 GMT
The potential partnership with Al Ain FC is very exciting. Just think. Under Roland Duchâtelet’s miserable regime we had to tolerate players like Tal Ben Haim (permanent), Yoni Buyens and Frederic Bulot (both loans) joining from Standard Liege. The fact they became our best players wasn’t the point. Now we can look forward to French teenager Idriss Mzaouiyani and ageing former Japanese international Tsukasa Shiotani (had to be careful how I spelt that) joining to bolster the squad. The potential is clear for all to see. Unfortunately, for those who enjoyed their day trips to Sint-Truiden, excursions to scout our next signings from Al Ain will be a bit more challenging to organise.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 9:15:59 GMT
The potential partnership with Al Ain FC is very exciting. Just think. Under Roland Duchâtelet’s miserable regime we had to tolerate players like Tal Ben Haim (permanent), Yoni Buyens and Frederic Bulot (both loans) joining from Standard Liege. The fact they became our best players wasn’t the point. Now we can look forward to French teenager Idriss Mzaouiyani and ageing former Japanese international Tsukasa Shiotani (had to be careful how I spelt that) joining to bolster the squad. The potential is clear for all to see. Unfortunately, for those who enjoyed their day trips to Sint-Truiden, excursions to scout our next signings from Al Ain will be a bit more challenging to organise. This link up to a Club in Abu Dhabi is very worrying, it doesn't work. Who can forget some of the dross we got from Duchatelet's clubs. Thuram?
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