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Post by canterburyaddick on Sept 1, 2019 22:27:09 GMT
Sometimes the responsibility of being a captain leads to a change of attitude with more maturity. I’m sure LB would have words with him re the social media nonsense. It’s what happens on the pitch that makes a good captain, Solly was never going to be that person. All hypothetical anyway I know, Pearce deserves it while he’s fit, but I can understand why LB gave the captaincy to Taylor when Pearce was injured. Solls does have ideas of going into management and is quite a student of the game. Probably been quietly effective about the place as club captain. Can't see Pearce going anywhere yet though, got a couple of years at least left in him.
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Post by aussieaddick on Sept 2, 2019 5:46:19 GMT
Not sure if this has been asked before but is Taylor Prem quality? Given his start to the season are higher placed clubs than Brentford likely to be looking at him mid season?
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Post by lukepiestalker on Sept 2, 2019 6:51:52 GMT
For a player who wanted to leave for a lot more money if anything his work rate has improved, he's showed great professionalism. He is aware enough to realise he is in a shop window. Kudos to him for stepping up after what went on in the last window. If he continues to work hard and score he is obviously going to be on the radar of Prem clubs but at his age he's a gamble. Lower level clubs would be interested but the kind where he could be back in the Championship as quick as he went up. Bigger money brings a disproportionate amount of responsibility where goals are required and his career is only just kicking off at quite a late time in his life. That said, he only really needs one deal to secure a comfy future outside of football.
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Post by ExeterAddick on Sept 2, 2019 7:47:18 GMT
Not sure if this has been asked before but is Taylor Prem quality? Given his start to the season are higher placed clubs than Brentford likely to be looking at him mid season? Is he a bit like Rickie Lambert in that he’s bloomed slightly later in his career? I think he could probably do a decent job for a relegation threatened side, but at 30 I suspect most clubs are looking for someone with more potential.
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Post by oldred on Sept 2, 2019 7:52:23 GMT
Not sure if this has been asked before but is Taylor Prem quality? Given his start to the season are higher placed clubs than Brentford likely to be looking at him mid season? Is he a bit like Rickie Lambert in that he’s bloomed slightly later in his career? I think he could probably do a decent job for a relegation threatened side, but at 30 I suspect most clubs are looking for someone with more potential. I agree with this and think that it may be the case. Whilst he is nowhere near the strikers in the top Premier teams, a team looking at possible relegation might consider him a cheap punt on a short contract. More likely to attract an offer from a Championship cub who pay big wages though I would expect.
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Post by hairyhotdog on Sept 2, 2019 12:16:27 GMT
Before I continue , I must say, I love Lyle Taylor and I do believe his total contribution on and off the pitch has been amazing in the time he’s been with us.. He has been the right man to spearhead our continued rise , and he has contributed more than anyone to turning a club and it’s supporters around and instilling a feel good factor that has been lacking for many a year...
However , the more and more games I watch , the more I feel that , yes Lyle is in some respects the leader of the team , but we are getting more and more leaders , everyone stepping on the pitch is a warrior , everyone is fighting for the shirt , for the victory , and there can only be one reason for that , and that’s Lee Bowyer...
I’ve worked in the horse racing game for nearly 25 years and it took me a long time to realise it’s not always the fastest horse that wins the race , jockeys make a huge difference , and I’m finally realising that about managers too...
Yes if Lyle goes it’ll be a blow , irreplaceable given our current financial circumstances...? Yes , but with Bowyer driving these players on , who knows what’s possible , the last season and a bit has surprised many fans , and this season has continued in the same vein , i for one have not seen any team on TV or opponents that we can’t compete against , with or without Lyle...
Having the lowest budget in the league makes it all the more satisfying doing what we are doing , who needs sulky players on 20/25k , let’s stick with the hungry ones who play for the shirt , play for Lee and play for the fans...
If he goes , he goes , it is what it is.....
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 6, 2019 17:43:38 GMT
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Post by hairyhotdog on Sept 6, 2019 17:45:00 GMT
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Post by rationaladdick on Sept 6, 2019 18:14:31 GMT
Taylor right now is the difference between 2nd at 10th. But if we could sell Taylor for £4.5M (what Brentford offered) and we could get Ivan Toney (who we tried to get) from Petersborough for £5M or even £6m, I would make that trade all day long. Toney is 7 years younger, has scored 4 this season, 16 with 7 assists last season, and has huge upside. Taylor, as good as he is, is about 30 years old. Strikers usually peak at age 27, so we are pushing our luck with him. I feel adding Toney would be a good swap for Taylor. I would miss him. But as a long-term move, it would be the wise one. Toney might well be scoring 15-20 goals in 2023 when Taylor is kicking it in retirement.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2019 18:26:43 GMT
Taylor right now is the difference between 2nd at 10th. But if we could sell Taylor for £4.5M (what Brentford offered) and we could get Ivan Toney (who we tried to get) from Petersborough for £5M or even £6m, I would make that trade all day long. Toney is 7 years younger, has scored 4 this season, 16 with 7 assists last season, and has huge upside. Taylor, as good as he is, is about 30 years old. Strikers usually peak at age 27, so we are pushing our luck with him. I feel adding Toney would be a good swap for Taylor. I would miss him. But as a long-term move, it would be the wise one. Toney might well be scoring 15-20 goals in 2023 when Taylor is kicking it in retirement. Lyle Taylor would only have 6 months left on his contract in January - no club is going to pay anything like £4m when they can get him for nothing next summer. More negligent contract buffoonery from a rudderless club with no CEO.
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Post by oldred on Sept 6, 2019 18:47:44 GMT
Taylor right now is the difference between 2nd at 10th. But if we could sell Taylor for £4.5M (what Brentford offered) and we could get Ivan Toney (who we tried to get) from Petersborough for £5M or even £6m, I would make that trade all day long. Toney is 7 years younger, has scored 4 this season, 16 with 7 assists last season, and has huge upside. Taylor, as good as he is, is about 30 years old. Strikers usually peak at age 27, so we are pushing our luck with him. I feel adding Toney would be a good swap for Taylor. I would miss him. But as a long-term move, it would be the wise one. Toney might well be scoring 15-20 goals in 2023 when Taylor is kicking it in retirement. Lyle Taylor would only have 6 months left on his contract in January - no club is going to pay anything like £4m when they can get him for nothing next summer. More negligent contract buffoonery from a rudderless club with no CEO. I admit that I had thought that way until recently also Royston, but thinking about it now I’m not so sure. A lower Premier team with one eye on relegation, or an upper Championship club looking to secure a play off place, may well believe that 4m is a cheap punt to try to achieve their respective objectives. Hopefully, SG words today re Lyle and discussions about a new contract, might make finding a suitable replacement unnecessary.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2019 18:52:52 GMT
Taylor right now is the difference between 2nd at 10th. But if we could sell Taylor for £4.5M (what Brentford offered) and we could get Ivan Toney (who we tried to get) from Petersborough for £5M or even £6m, I would make that trade all day long. Toney is 7 years younger, has scored 4 this season, 16 with 7 assists last season, and has huge upside. Taylor, as good as he is, is about 30 years old. Strikers usually peak at age 27, so we are pushing our luck with him. I feel adding Toney would be a good swap for Taylor. I would miss him. But as a long-term move, it would be the wise one. Toney might well be scoring 15-20 goals in 2023 when Taylor is kicking it in retirement. Lyle Taylor would only have 6 months left on his contract in January - no club is going to pay anything like £4m when they can get him for nothing next summer. More negligent contract buffoonery from a rudderless club with no CEO. Pay them what ever they want on 4 year deals.. Thsts probably why Steve Gallen will negotiate and not you and your mate.
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Post by willett on Sept 6, 2019 19:06:03 GMT
Lyle Taylor would only have 6 months left on his contract in January - no club is going to pay anything like £4m when they can get him for nothing next summer. More negligent contract buffoonery from a rudderless club with no CEO. Pay them what ever they want on 4 year deals.. Thsts probably why Steve Gallen will negotiate and not you and your mate. Do you always have to support those behind the scenes? There is no excuse as to why we have lost so many key players for free because of not correctly managing their contracts.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2019 19:13:55 GMT
Pay them what ever they want on 4 year deals.. Thsts probably why Steve Gallen will negotiate and not you and your mate. Do you always have to support those behind the scenes? There is no excuse as to why we have lost so many key players for free because of not correctly managing their contracts. She’s a very strange woman. “Running the club properly” = “pay them what they want”
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2019 19:25:24 GMT
Pay them what ever they want on 4 year deals.. Thsts probably why Steve Gallen will negotiate and not you and your mate. Do you always have to support those behind the scenes? There is no excuse as to why we have lost so many key players for free because of not correctly managing their contracts. How do you make them sign, if they dont wish to?.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2019 19:30:18 GMT
Pay them what ever they want on 4 year deals.. Thsts probably why Steve Gallen will negotiate and not you and your mate. Do you always have to support those behind the scenes? There is no excuse as to why we have lost so many key players for free because of not correctly managing their contracts. I think clubs have s tough job, regarding contracts agents etc... I will support who I like...
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Post by thevalleybest on Sept 6, 2019 19:31:32 GMT
Even if we get Taylor to sign for another year.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2019 19:49:47 GMT
Do you always have to support those behind the scenes? There is no excuse as to why we have lost so many key players for free because of not correctly managing their contracts. I think clubs have s tough job, regarding contracts agents etc... I will support who I like... The owner.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2019 19:58:45 GMT
I think clubs have s tough job, regarding contracts agents etc... I will support who I like... The owner. You cant resist can you?...
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Post by elfsborgfranboras on Sept 6, 2019 21:10:00 GMT
You cant resist can you?... He's right though, darling.
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Post by bexleyboy on Sept 6, 2019 21:22:20 GMT
Pay them what ever they want on 4 year deals.. Thsts probably why Steve Gallen will negotiate and not you and your mate. Do you always have to support those behind the scenes? There is no excuse as to why we have lost so many key players for free because of not correctly managing their contracts. Or the player just simply did not want to stay and move fir higher wages ..... managing contracts as you say mean clubs giving out ridiculous wages over ridiculous years to which they can’t afford and they end up like Bury and Bolton .... budgets are there for many reasons one is to protect the future of the club
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Post by willett on Sept 6, 2019 21:40:54 GMT
Do you always have to support those behind the scenes? There is no excuse as to why we have lost so many key players for free because of not correctly managing their contracts. Or the player just simply did not want to stay and move fir higher wages ..... managing contracts as you say mean clubs giving out ridiculous wages over ridiculous years to which they can’t afford and they end up like Bury and Bolton .... budgets are there for many reasons one is to protect the future of the club Not meaning to be funny but am going to take everything you say about Lyle Taylor with a pinch of salt, as you said it was a done deal for him to go to Huddersfield.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2019 21:41:43 GMT
You cant resist can you?... He's right though, darling. Omg it's the other one.. Thought you would be getting ready, for a non league game...
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Post by willett on Sept 6, 2019 21:44:31 GMT
He's right though, darling. Omg it's the other one.. Thought you would be getting ready, for a non league game... You can't resist can you?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2019 21:46:05 GMT
Omg it's the other one.. Thought you would be getting ready, for a non league game... You can't resist can you? And then there were three
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Post by willett on Sept 6, 2019 21:50:19 GMT
You can't resist can you? And then there were three Great Response. Three? Because I don't agree with your post?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2019 21:55:21 GMT
And then there were three Great Response. Three? Because I don't agree with your post? The thread is Lyke Taylor..
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Post by willett on Sept 6, 2019 22:11:12 GMT
Great Response. Three? Because I don't agree with your post? The thread is Lyke Taylor.. You started discussing Elfs going to a Non League Game.
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Post by oldred on Sept 6, 2019 22:29:03 GMT
Members stopping posting, and now others deleting their memberships.,ganging up and bullying people on football forums, even women really ? Some of you should be embarrassed even if not ashamed of yourselves ffs give it a rest or we won’t have any members left soon .
When will you accept that people are entitled to their own opinions, whether you like and agree or not. You can’t force people to share your views.
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Post by sardonic on Sept 6, 2019 23:55:17 GMT
Members stopping posting, and now others deleting their memberships.,ganging up and bullying people on football forums, even women really ? Some of you should be embarrassed even if not ashamed of yourselves ffs give it a rest or we won’t have any members left soon . When will you accept that people are entitled to their own opinions, whether you like and agree or not. You can’t force people to share your views. Sadly every thread ends up the same. It’s a shame another member has left because of the direction of the forum.
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