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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 14:28:52 GMT
I heard that Brentford offered £25000 per week. That would change my life.
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Post by sardonic on Aug 22, 2019 17:10:37 GMT
Spot On! Someone needs to have a word. @royston / Willett - What is our wage structure? You clearly know it as you’re saying BB is wrong. I’m not saying he’s right btw, I’m just interested to know why you know it’s wrong. They don’t know and want you to do the work to prove their claim incorrect. I’ve never found that quote from bowyer regarding the 5k as yet! We had the lowest budget in Championship but it may now be different after the sale of Dijksteel. No way would Hemed accept 5k a week would he?!
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Post by dartford36 on Aug 22, 2019 19:18:38 GMT
That he is worth every penny isn’t even up for debate. It’s not just his goals even, he’s right back, left back,, right wing, left wing . there isn’t a position in the team, that he doesn’t play every game , and indeed play well in that position. I know some see him as a journeyman striker, but he is at his peak now, and is the most complete all round striker we have had I think. Obviously, there is a limit to what we can offer him, but that limit should be pushed to the maximum in an effort to keep him. Sadly he will be offered far more than we could ever offer. Maybe we should all chip in with a quid a week . Not as daft as it might seem. I think I’ve still got my certificate that proves I contributed to the transfer of Ronnie Moore to the club back in 1983. Perhaps we should set up a Crowdfunding page to raise the money.😀
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Post by oldred on Aug 22, 2019 19:22:40 GMT
That he is worth every penny isn’t even up for debate. It’s not just his goals even, he’s right back, left back,, right wing, left wing . there isn’t a position in the team, that he doesn’t play every game , and indeed play well in that position. I know some see him as a journeyman striker, but he is at his peak now, and is the most complete all round striker we have had I think. Obviously, there is a limit to what we can offer him, but that limit should be pushed to the maximum in an effort to keep him. Sadly he will be offered far more than we could ever offer. Maybe we should all chip in with a quid a week . Not as daft as it might seem. I think I’ve still got my certificate that proves I contributed to the transfer of Ronnie Moore to the club back in 1983. Perhaps we should set up a Crowdfunding page to raise the money.😀 Yes, I remember putting in for that too, but the certificate is long gone. It shows how cash strapped we were back then.
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Post by AndyB on Aug 22, 2019 20:17:20 GMT
That he is worth every penny isn’t even up for debate. It’s not just his goals even, he’s right back, left back,, right wing, left wing . there isn’t a position in the team, that he doesn’t play every game , and indeed play well in that position. I know some see him as a journeyman striker, but he is at his peak now, and is the most complete all round striker we have had I think. Obviously, there is a limit to what we can offer him, but that limit should be pushed to the maximum in an effort to keep him. Sadly he will be offered far more than we could ever offer. Maybe we should all chip in with a quid a week . i would gladly do that oldred, what a good idea 👍🏻
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Post by revilo on Aug 22, 2019 20:28:04 GMT
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Post by oldred on Aug 22, 2019 21:21:49 GMT
Yes I’m sure he loves it with us, and I would hate to see him leave, but if he is offered a decent length of contract on three or four times his present wage, he will at his age, seize the opportunity with both hands unfortunately. As we have seen so many times before, players will always put their future, and that of their family first in any major decisions like this. If he continues as he is now, he might attract even better offers than Brentford’s . I really cant see him here beyond January, and being allowed to run his contract down as he did at Wimbledon. We need to continue supporting him and enjoying him while he is here, and hope that his probable departure, doesn’t completely derail our season. It would be great if something happened to change the situation.
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Post by whyme on Aug 22, 2019 21:33:43 GMT
Yes he is a decent striker but if he wants to leave then let him. Just like ricky holmes did. Where is he now? At 29 you haven't got long left as a striker if he wants to go then I say let him and get someone in who doesnt want to go. I respect jonny williams. Took a pay cut to be here....
Bowyer will find a sutible repalcement. I trust him.
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Post by jonkool on Aug 22, 2019 21:36:41 GMT
(Sadly) back in the real world Lyle will be off in January (injuries allowing) and will earn the current rate for a tier 2 striker which he most certainly is not earning at cafc. Good luck to him as he has to ca#h in on his belated effectiveness in the EFL.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 21:48:22 GMT
Of course hes going and all the sucking up to him on Twitter is not going to change his mind.That was made up as soon as Brentford came calling
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Post by pardew123 on Aug 22, 2019 22:12:16 GMT
He's a diamond simply put but no player bigger than club Ronald at Man Utd etc they wanna go invariably they go how it goes
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Post by pardew123 on Aug 22, 2019 22:13:17 GMT
Ronaldo
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Post by seriouslyred on Aug 22, 2019 23:27:00 GMT
Posted before that January will be expensive for CAFC and RD if we are to progress: 1) the best will require contracts at Championship rates 2) players not making the grade require replacing with players on bigger desls
RD could keep going by limiting the wage bill and selling top talent...but sooner or later we will slip back in terms of performance and results... and Bowyer will be tempted to move on if he cannot push on with our club.
That's the crossroads which we are approaching in 2020 - enjoy - embrace the chaos!
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Post by elfsborgfranboras on Aug 23, 2019 4:41:31 GMT
Posted before that January will be expensive for CAFC and RD if we are to progress: 1) the best will require contracts at Championship rates 2) players not making the grade require replacing with players on bigger desls RD could keep going by limiting the wage bill and selling top talent...but sooner or later we will slip back in terms of performance and results... and Bowyer will be tempted to move on if he cannot push on with our club. That's the crossroads which we are approaching in 2020 - enjoy - embrace the chaos! The Belgian has been doing paragraph two for nigh on 6 years now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 6:08:23 GMT
Best of luck to Lyle Taylor whatever happens in January.
The guy was a free transfer and he could not have done more to help Charlton into the Championship. He is scoring in every game, and even by January I expect he will have an average goal return better than one every two appearances (barring injury).
This season is probably his last chance for a big money move. Decent Clubs will be queueing up to buy him in the New year. Taylor is right at the top of his game now but he knows that won't last much longer - as season or two at most. The man has every right to push his career as far as it will go before he has to do other things with his life.
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Post by Mundell on Aug 23, 2019 8:04:51 GMT
Posted before that January will be expensive for CAFC and RD if we are to progress: 1) the best will require contracts at Championship rates 2) players not making the grade require replacing with players on bigger desls RD could keep going by limiting the wage bill and selling top talent...but sooner or later we will slip back in terms of performance and results... and Bowyer will be tempted to move on if he cannot push on with our club. That's the crossroads which we are approaching in 2020 - enjoy - embrace the chaos! Duchatelet isn’t trying to progress. He’s trying to sell the club while limiting his losses in the meantime. What do you think will happen in January?
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Post by seriouslyred on Aug 23, 2019 9:42:34 GMT
Posted before that January will be expensive for CAFC and RD if we are to progress: 1) the best will require contracts at Championship rates 2) players not making the grade require replacing with players on bigger desls RD could keep going by limiting the wage bill and selling top talent...but sooner or later we will slip back in terms of performance and results... and Bowyer will be tempted to move on if he cannot push on with our club. That's the crossroads which we are approaching in 2020 - enjoy - embrace the chaos! Duchatelet isn’t trying to progress. He’s trying to sell the club while limiting his losses in the meantime. What do you think will happen in January? RD is an experienced club owner who has bought and sold many clubs. What does one make of the failure to sell last summer? Different views of that process lead to different answers to your question. As ever RD has a number of choices at the next window: cash in to keep the club sustainable while providing the budget for a mid-table finish... help the club push on to the top six... and at the same time market the club with a new angle - bigger crowds and a team that is mid-table. Say we are 12th in January on 30 points - we all know what we want to happen, but leaving that to one side, will RD follow the logical business path and recognise that CAFC under Bowyer may have covered 2/3 of the journey from top six tier 3 to top six Championship? End of the day 12th is the same as 18th. But sixth means one can factor in 25% of the NPV of EPL... and it also means the valuation of our players goes through the roof. Win:win! Again that's speculative and outlining one option. So in answer to your question, "don't know, boss"
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Post by elfsborgfranboras on Aug 23, 2019 12:06:55 GMT
Duchatelet isn’t trying to progress. He’s trying to sell the club while limiting his losses in the meantime. What do you think will happen in January? RD is an experienced club owner who has bought and sold many clubs. What does one make of the failure to sell last summer? Different views of that process lead to different answers to your question. As ever RD has a number of choices at the next window: cash in to keep the club sustainable while providing the budget for a mid-table finish... help the club push on to the top six... and at the same time market the club with a new angle - bigger crowds and a team that is mid-table. Say we are 12th in January on 30 points - we all know what we want to happen, but leaving that to one side, will RD follow the logical business path and recognise that CAFC under Bowyer may have covered 2/3 of the journey from top six tier 3 to top six Championship? End of the day 12th is the same as 18th. But sixth means one can factor in 25% of the NPV of EPL... and it also means the valuation of our players goes through the roof. Win:win! Again that's speculative and outlining one option. So in answer to your question, "don't know, boss" Yes or No, do you think Taylor will be sold in January?
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Post by seriouslyred on Aug 23, 2019 12:38:10 GMT
RD is an experienced club owner who has bought and sold many clubs. What does one make of the failure to sell last summer? Different views of that process lead to different answers to your question. As ever RD has a number of choices at the next window: cash in to keep the club sustainable while providing the budget for a mid-table finish... help the club push on to the top six... and at the same time market the club with a new angle - bigger crowds and a team that is mid-table. Say we are 12th in January on 30 points - we all know what we want to happen, but leaving that to one side, will RD follow the logical business path and recognise that CAFC under Bowyer may have covered 2/3 of the journey from top six tier 3 to top six Championship? End of the day 12th is the same as 18th. But sixth means one can factor in 25% of the NPV of EPL... and it also means the valuation of our players goes through the roof. Win:win! Again that's speculative and outlining one option. So in answer to your question, "don't know, boss" Yes or No, do you think Taylor will be sold in January? That depends...
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Post by somerton on Aug 23, 2019 13:04:31 GMT
Remember we got Taylor for no payment at the end of his contract at wimbledon, so that cost Roland nothing. So only his wages and a possible signing on fee, so cost to Roland comes out neutral on that measure.
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Post by elfsborgfranboras on Aug 23, 2019 14:34:16 GMT
Yes or No, do you think Taylor will be sold in January? That depends...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 15:28:00 GMT
Perhaps you should all be nice to uncle Roland. 😉 🤣🤣🤣
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Post by elfsborgfranboras on Aug 23, 2019 16:03:52 GMT
Perhaps you should all be nice to uncle Roland. 😉 🤣🤣🤣 Oh yeah. After the events at Bury people will be saying the Belgian is not so bad. "Be careful what you wish for". Blah, blah, blah.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 16:37:40 GMT
Duchatelet is, has been, and always will be, a cunt!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 20:22:20 GMT
Duchatelet is, has been, and always will be, a cunt! You have a wonderful way with words..
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Post by elfsborgfranboras on Aug 23, 2019 21:17:09 GMT
Duchatelet is, has been, and always will be, a cunt! You have a wonderful way with words.. Do you disagree?
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Post by elfsborgfranboras on Aug 23, 2019 21:17:34 GMT
Duchatelet is, has been, and always will be, a cunt! 100%
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 21:50:24 GMT
Duchatelet is, has been, and always will be, a cunt! 100% What was that saying? Takes one to know one....🤣 ..
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Post by willett on Aug 23, 2019 21:54:52 GMT
What was that saying? Takes one to know one....🤣 .. Guessing you disagree then?
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Post by oldred on Aug 23, 2019 22:21:58 GMT
How did we get back onto bloody Roland again, on the Lyle Taylor thread .🙄
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