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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 17:03:59 GMT
"Apparently the 'Belgian 20' are planning another of their jolly booze cruises." Please could you provide the link, or be kind enough to enlighten us as to why you say this, as I have heard not one jot anywhere to suggest this is true. Thank-you. Perhaps they didn't invite you this time stevebrown!
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Post by stevebrown on Aug 28, 2017 17:35:52 GMT
Please could you provide the link, or be kind enough to enlighten us as to why you say this, as I have heard not one jot anywhere to suggest this is true. Thank-you. Perhaps they didn't invite you this time stevebrown! The B20 have never invited me anywhere. Perhaps I'm missing your joke, as you've said I'm too serious.
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Post by The Real Steve Brown on Aug 28, 2017 17:36:41 GMT
"Apparently the 'Belgian 20' are planning another of their jolly booze cruises." Please could you provide the link, or be kind enough to enlighten us as to why you say this, as I have heard not one jot anywhere to suggest this is true. Thank-you. Do we detect a teeny, weeny little bit of stamp-his-self-important-foot pique because the Great Wannabe who has hijacked the name of a genuine Charlton legend on this forum wasn't told "one jot" of what the Demented Twenty are planning by this site's favourite figure of fun, Lanky-Streak-Of-Steaming-Piss Joe Read ? He didn't tell me, either chum. I haven't been in the country for the last month but even I was able to check the latest on the Demented Twenty's twitter account: "Good luck to the team this season. While they battle on the pitch we will battle the owner in BELGIUM!" Then one of the demented desperados last week wrote on another site that the first heroic booze cruise will be "very soon". But perhaps as the owner is reportedly on his way over here to watch a match, the Brexiteers will save their money and spend their hard-earned instead on breaking their Valley boycott and buying tickets so they can shout "Yah, boo, we don't like you and your EU" in the vague direction of the directors box, while the rest of us laugh at them? By the way, I have been in touch with the real Steve Brown. And he is "furious" (direct quote) that you have stolen his indentity to attack the club he loves.
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Post by stevebrown on Aug 28, 2017 17:51:02 GMT
Please could you provide the link, or be kind enough to enlighten us as to why you say this, as I have heard not one jot anywhere to suggest this is true. Thank-you. Do we detect a teeny, weeny little bit of stamp-his-self-important-foot pique because the Great Wannabe who has hijacked the name of a genuine Charlton legend on this forum wasn't told "one jot" of what the Demented Twenty are planning by this site's favourite figure of fun, Lanky-Streak-Of-Steaming-Piss Joe Read ? He didn't tell me, either chum. I haven't been in the country for the last month but even I was able to check the latest on the Demented Twenty's twitter account: "Good luck to the team this season. While they battle on the pitch we will battle the owner in BELGIUM!" Then one of the demented desperados last week wrote on another site that the first heroic booze cruise will be "very soon". But perhaps as the owner is reportedly on his way over here to watch a match, the Brexiteers will save their money and spend their hard-earned instead on breaking their Valley boycott and buying tickets so they can shout "Yah, boo, we don't like you and your EU" in the vague direction of the directors box, while the rest of us laugh at them? By the way, I have been in touch with the real Steve Brown. And he is "furious" (direct quote) that you have stolen his indentity to attack the club he loves. Thanks for replying. I don't follow B20 so I was unaware. I'll ignore the rest of your post, as you are clearly trying to provoke a row and I'm not interested. Thanks.
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Post by webbo on Aug 28, 2017 17:51:45 GMT
There has been change for the better. I can't say if that's because KR has pushed for it successfully or if ownership has realized that what it's done hasn't worked. Could be both. Whatever the reason, these are positive steps. I hope we can get to a place where any criticism or critique of the club isn't immediately conflated with protest. You have to remember that the Club appointed KR in the first place and it wasn't luck. According to our meeting with KM, they had been after him for a while, but had to appoint Slade as KR wasn't available last Summer. That was the recognition that Plan A the Network didn't work. To be fair "if" we got promotion this season RD's legacy would not be at all bad - a refurbished ground, one of the best academies in the country, new training facilities and no unfriendly debt. Wow. That goes against everything they were saying around the Slade appointment, pointing to a three year contract as a fresh start and a change of direction. Katrien Meire was on talksport one week before Slade was sacked saying again that he was here for the long term. You say 'according to our meeting with KM' as if it is easy to accept that she tells the truth. I don't find it as easy as you, especially when it comes to all the managers, like Luzon as our Alex Ferguson, or Karel Fraeye being a mastermind. I find it much easier to believe that Robinson was appointed because he was out of work and conveniently available, which I interpret as pure luck I'm afraid.
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Post by The Real Steve Brown on Aug 28, 2017 17:59:50 GMT
So you aren't quite as omniscient as you pretend? Steve Brown , by the way, was a footballer of honest but decidely modest talents but he is one of the most decent and honourable people I have ever met in 52 seasons of being a member of the CAFC community. Every time I read your dishonest posts made in the name of a man whose boots you are not fit to lick, I feel ashamed on the real SB's behalf.
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 28, 2017 18:00:04 GMT
You see a negative in everything they do webbo which is why I hope they hang around for as long as they do even if it's to aggravate those who feel the same as you do.
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Post by stevebrown on Aug 28, 2017 18:09:51 GMT
So you aren't quite as omniscient as you pretend? Steve Brown , by the way, was a footballer of honest but decidely modest talents but he is one of the most decent and honourable people I have ever met in 52 seasons of being a member of the CAFC community. Every time I read your dishonest posts made in the name of a man whose boots you are not fit to lick, I feel ashamed on the real SB's behalf. Thanks. I'm quite aware who Steve Brown is and I saw him play far more games for Charlton than you ever did, based on the fact that I hardly ever miss a home game and go to the majority of the aways. Anyway, carry on with the insults, if that's what you need to do to. I'll not be responding in kind.
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Post by The Real Steve Brown on Aug 28, 2017 18:20:32 GMT
I'm quite aware who Steve Brown is and I saw him play far more games for Charlton than you ever did " I can pretend to be whoever I like because I watched far more Charlton games than you, la-de-da-de-da-de-da". Have you ever stopped for one second to listen to yourself and realise what a whining, self-entitled, self-important chap you sound to the rest of the world? And , by the way - I can guarantee you did not see the real, genuine, decent and honest Steve Brown whose name you have so inappropriately stolen play more games than we did. Can you name the mid-week cup game in which he lost us the penalty shoot-out against lower opposition by putting the ball so high over the bar it landed in row ZZ of the covered end? lol...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 18:24:49 GMT
So you aren't quite as omniscient as you pretend? Steve Brown , by the way, was a footballer of honest but decidely modest talents but he is one of the most decent and honourable people I have ever met in 52 seasons of being a member of the CAFC community. Every time I read your dishonest posts made in the name of a man whose boots you are not fit to lick, I feel ashamed on the real SB's behalf. Thanks. I'm quite aware who Steve Brown is and I saw him play far more games for Charlton than you ever did, based on the fact that I hardly ever miss a home game and go to the majority of the aways. Anyway, carry on with the insults, if that's what you need to do to. I'll not be responding in kind. I see where ICM is coming from with the name stevebrown -- The thing of it is, you say you travel home and away --- I do not dispute that but surely, on your trips around the country you see what other Clubs have compared to us at the Valley -- But you still defend the protesters of any group to the hilt. I just don't get it!
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Post by garrynelson on Aug 28, 2017 18:25:10 GMT
"Incorruptible" whatever-he-thinks-he-is is a WUM and seems incapable of engaging in a civil manner in any discourse. He's seems to delight in lying about his own self-importance, intellect and contacts. It's more sad than it is enraging - just ignore him and he will get bored
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 28, 2017 18:25:40 GMT
I watched him more than you did...No you didn't... Who cares FFS!! Turn it in chaps, you are boring me.
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Post by garrynelson on Aug 28, 2017 18:36:37 GMT
I think, as long as things continue in the positive manner as they have done at the start of this season, then I see no need for a change in ownership.
My concern is how quickly fan unrest will arise if, and when, our performances and results drop off (even if it is only a temporary lull)
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Post by The Real Steve Brown on Aug 28, 2017 18:43:03 GMT
I think, as long as things continue in the positive manner as they have done at the start of this season, then I see no need for a change in ownership. Good, we can agree. Nelson and Mendonca... what a strike force we make when we are both kicking in the same direction!
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 28, 2017 18:46:26 GMT
I think, as long as things continue in the positive manner as they have done at the start of this season, then I see no need for a change in ownership. My concern is how quickly fan unrest will arise if, and when, our performances and results drop off (even if it is only a temporary lull) There will only be fan unrest if we have a lull if the protest groups, some who despite the early success are just dying to get started, started encouraging people to protest again. I think they will get a negative reaction if/when they do because a substantial number of fans have now come on board and left the nonsense behind.
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Post by webbo on Aug 28, 2017 18:53:44 GMT
You see a negative in everything they do webbo which is why I hope they hang around for as long as they do even if it's to aggravate those who feel the same as you do. What i wrote about the managers may seem like a negative to you, but I gave reasons for what I wrote. I even said we are 'lucky' to get Robinson which is a pretty positive position, but it doesn't feel like an ordered plan of events in terms of him, or the other managers. If you wish me aggravation then fine, a kind of schadenfreude I suppose. I will be happy to see wins and promotion and a return of the fans, but I am not convinced it is because the regime know what they're doing, or that they even want success as much as I do. Sorry, but that is how I feel at the moment.
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Post by garrynelson on Aug 28, 2017 18:58:36 GMT
I think, as long as things continue in the positive manner as they have done at the start of this season, then I see no need for a change in ownership. My concern is how quickly fan unrest will arise if, and when, our performances and results drop off (even if it is only a temporary lull) There will only be fan unrest if we have a lull if the protest groups, some who despite the early success are just dying to get started, started encouraging people to protest again. I think they will get a negative reaction if/when they do because a substantial number of fans have now come on board and left the nonsense behind. I think those people who want to protest just to have something to protest about are in the minority. I get the feeling that the majority of protesters are seeing the improvements that have been made to the coaching structure at the club, the player retention and recruitment and seeing the fruits of these on the pitch - even when we lost against Plymouth, a lot of what I read was positive about the football played and was frustrated at our lack of a clinical edge (we then scored 4 in our next league game!) It's these latter protesters, who a unlikely to be swayed by the "hardcore" to resume protesting when they'll see that there isn't anything to protest about
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Post by Cindy Blue on Aug 28, 2017 18:58:44 GMT
I was one of those who was keen for a change of ownership for broadly the following reasons: 1) Consistently poor manager recruitment 2) The repeated signing of players with either very little or absolutely no experience in the football league 3) Under-investment in players given the money recouped from sales 4) An owner with a hierarchy of clubs which we didn't seem to be at the top of 5) Three consecutive seasons of under-performance on the pitch, linked to the issues above Whilst it's very early in the season, it does now appear that the majority of these concerns have been addressed and therefore I think it'd be silly for anyone to be vocally be calling for a change in ownership at this stage. That said, the real test for me will be how we compete if and when we get back into the Championship. That's where we were before RD took over, so he needs to get us back there and thus undo the damage his poor decision-making has caused before I'll be completely satisfied with him as the owner. Completely agree that attending a game would be a nice symbolic gesture and that the feel-good factor is most certainly back around the club again. Firstly Exeter well done for being bog enough to have developed yiur views in the light of changing circumstances. I too worry about the championship (assuming we get there) although I believe RD will sell once we get there. I hope he does, not because I have a downer on him or KM but because he is unlikely to be willing to invest in the club to the level that appears to be needed to be a viable Chamionship club knocking on top 10 rather than flirting with relegation. The rift in fans will be difficult to heal, people like Rick and Danny have created an atmosphere of snide put downs on people that did not join their clique. I for one will not forgive them for what they did to the fan base.
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Post by stevebrown on Aug 28, 2017 19:21:28 GMT
I'm quite aware who Steve Brown is and I saw him play far more games for Charlton than you ever did " I can pretend to be whoever I like because I watched far more Charlton games than you, la-de-da-de-da-de-da". Have you ever stopped for one second to listen to yourself and realise what a whining, self-entitled, self-important chap you sound to the rest of the world? And , by the way - I can guarantee you did not see the real, genuine, decent and honest Steve Brown whose name you have so inappropriately stolen play more games than we did. Can you name the mid-week cup game in which he lost us the penalty shoot-out against lower opposition by putting the ball so high over the bar it landed in row ZZ of the covered end? lol... Are you referring to the Oxford U League Cup game in 2002 ? I know we lost that game on penalties and recall Brown missing one. I kept the ticket stub, because it was the first game I took my youngest son to.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 20:16:30 GMT
Still makes me laugh, a injured steve brown after lengthy treatment given a red card whilst on a stretcher, leaves ground on crutches and in plaster, back in team following tuesday.
He was honest when he stated that at no time did he require treatment but tried to avoid the inevitable red card, even curbs trying to fool the ref was getting ready to substitute him.
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