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Post by bexleyboy on Jan 26, 2015 18:22:46 GMT
I am really excited about this one. It could sell another 10,000 season tickets. The 21 year old has played a whole 2 games for Sporting Lisbon since 2012. Where does RD find them Yawn yawn yawn , Give it a rest Phil Chapple found this one so your wrong again
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Post by zxcvbn21 on Jan 26, 2015 18:23:19 GMT
I've never seen pele play or beckenbauer but going on what everyone else says, they were pretty damn good. But I would be deemed stupid for thinking they' were good because I have never seen them play, ridiculous. Honestly so much negative views and for what! All you doubters who have so much to say on how our club is run and who they employ is beyond me if bullshit had a value then feck me we would have the riches club in the league Why don't you put your money where your mouth is rather than hiding behind a forum and front it head on Just a thought Okay, which parking lot then?
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Post by ridgeback on Jan 26, 2015 18:34:31 GMT
I know this is a radical idea but why don't you make your own mind up after having seen him play, just a thought. There is too much reliance on stats. They don't tell the whole story, this man has played in the Champions League. I only make my mind up about a player that comes in after I have seen him play for us. There have been many players, over the years, who have come into our Club that I have been excited about and they have done nothing. Also when players like Kermorgant and Mendonca joined I was underwhelmed, but they didn't turn out badly. Apparently he is 6 foot 5. I haven't seen him in person so don't know how tall he is, but I can't wait to use your new radical idea, thanks for your enlightenment dick plumb.
He is tall.
www.gettyimages.be/detail/nieuwsfoto's/sportings-peruvian-forward-andre-carrilho-sportings-nieuwsfotos/456413280?Language=nl
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 18:39:28 GMT
I think the negative comments come from the fact it is ANOTHER player with zero experience at this level.
Surely at this stage of the season we need people with English league experience.
Having said that I know nothing about the fella, he might be the best thing since sliced bread.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 18:46:13 GMT
How do you know he is chaff? Have you seen him play? I have, for the French U20 team. He looked excellent.I quite understand passing comment on players that you have seen,there has been a fair amount of chaff amongst that lot. But i hope he does well for us. Dick, loving your enthusiasm but we are heading down the league table at a rate of knots and looking over our shoulder. What we need is experienced Championship players. What we've got is a player who's played 8 league games this season before being dropped because the team were shipping goals like there was no tomorrow. I hope he is an outstanding talent, but one heck of a gamble wouldn't you say?
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Post by americanaddick on Jan 26, 2015 18:47:39 GMT
Give the lad a chance, he has played for Sporting Lisbon against Schalke in the Champions League and did a good job on Huntelaar and also scored from a Nani free kick. And Davide Petrucci was rated as one of the best youngsters in Italy, was captain of Uniteds reserves and still sucked.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 18:48:21 GMT
I am really excited about this one. It could sell another 10,000 season tickets. The 21 year old has played a whole 2 games for Sporting Lisbon since 2012. Where does RD find them Yawn yawn yawn , Give it a rest Phil Chapple found this one so your wrong again Even if this were true - and I've no idea how you could be so certain that it was Chapple that found a player stuck in the reserves in Portugal and not someone elsewhere in the network - do you imagine Chapple recommended him as a loan for the rest of the season, presumably to make a difference to our first team? If so, then Chapple is an idiot. But he's not, is he.
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Post by wtf on Jan 26, 2015 18:49:24 GMT
I just feel that we as fans should make any player welcome regardless of his CV and except he's been invited to play for our beloved club remember no player has to play for us come on give the lad a chance.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 19:07:57 GMT
I've never seen pele play or beckenbauer but going on what everyone else says, they were pretty damn good. But I would be deemed stupid for thinking they' were good because I have never seen them play, ridiculous. Honestly so much negative views and for what! All you doubters who have so much to say on how our club is run and who they employ is beyond me if bullshit had a value then feck me we would have the riches club in the league Why don't you put your money where your mouth is rather than hiding behind a forum and front it head on Just a thought I put my money where my mouth is by going home and away, including Watford and Wolves in the last two games? WTF do you do ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 19:10:43 GMT
I am really excited about this one. It could sell another 10,000 season tickets. The 21 year old has played a whole 2 games for Sporting Lisbon since 2012. Where does RD find them Yawn yawn yawn , Give it a rest Phil Chapple found this one so your wrong again Trust you to pop up like Dracula out of his coffin....and get the wrong end of the stick yet again. The next generation of Charlton fans need players as heroes that they can emphasise with and relate to. French kids on short term loans-to go with our existing motley collection - has the opposite effect. Where is the 2015 version of Richard Rufus, or John Robinson ?
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Post by ridgeback on Jan 26, 2015 19:17:08 GMT
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Post by MurciaAl on Jan 26, 2015 19:43:24 GMT
I know this is a radical idea but why don't you make your own mind up after having seen him play, just a thought. There is too much reliance on stats. They don't tell the whole story, this man has played in the Champions League. I only make my mind up about a player that comes in after I have seen him play for us. There have been many players, over the years, who have come into our Club that I have been excited about and they have done nothing. Also when players like Kermorgant and Mendonca joined I was underwhelmed, but they didn't turn out badly. Oh I will make my own mind up. Haha you sound like a 45 year old football pundit, get with the times grandad, stats are key in the modern game. Mate, don't know why you're digging out Dick, when it comes to football he's probably forgotten more than you'll ever know! He has a great knowledge of our youngsters, and I for one respect his views!
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Post by wtf on Jan 26, 2015 19:59:44 GMT
Honestly so much negative views and for what! All you doubters who have so much to say on how our club is run and who they employ is beyond me if bullshit had a value then feck me we would have the riches club in the league Why don't you put your money where your mouth is rather than hiding behind a forum and front it head on Just a thought I put my money where my mouth is by going home and away, including Watford and Wolves in the last two games? WTF do you do ? Mr famous Royston like you I also travel the country so what's your point exactly I'm not the one moaning like an women you are so negative it's unreal wouldn't your say Old chap And please no cause for abuse
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 20:00:37 GMT
Naby Sarr in. Gomez to Spurs? Is Sherwood scouting for Spurs?
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 26, 2015 20:11:21 GMT
zxcvbn21 can we have a little bit more respect please there is no need at all to relate to people's ages on here to get your point across. As EssexAl says Dick would probably run rings around you in terms of football knowledge 'Grandad' or no 'Grandad'.
Inkblot who helps me moderate this forum lives in France and is in his 80's so are you going to insult him too?
Just stick to the football please and do it without the personals.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 26, 2015 20:14:36 GMT
Ridgeback that video is a great find and I agree Sarr looked exposed but he was playing in a very high line which he won't with us so his defending skills against Chelsea were not really clear to us.
I will say one thing though he played in the game so if he is good enough to play in a Champions League game against one of the best club sides in the World then that's good enough for me, he won't come up against Diego Costa every week.
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Post by batman on Jan 26, 2015 20:19:41 GMT
Hope it comes off. He's played at a higher level than most of our squad and is only 21.
Wonder if we do loan him if they'll be a option to buy at the end
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Post by zxcvbn21 on Jan 26, 2015 20:33:05 GMT
zxcvbn21 can we have a little bit more respect please there is no need at all to relate to people's ages on here to get your point across. As EssexAl says Dick would probably run rings around you in terms of football knowledge 'Grandad' or no 'Grandad'. Inkblot who helps me moderate this forum lives in France and is in his 80's so are you going to insult him too? Just stick to the football please and do it without the personals. I suggest you re read the thread and reprimand your dear friend dick plumb, who started the insults by incinuating that I was stupid. And you and essexal are taking drivel, you know nothing about me, but assume your friend would run rings around me in terms of football knowledge, when you know nothing of my knowledge, ridiculous statement. I suggest you and Essexal take your head out of dickplumbs a hole. And I don't have a clue how old your friend dickplumb is, when I said grandad, I was referring to his rather backward view of football in terms of stats and not to his age, which I do not know. So I would rather you reeled your kneck in. And if we are going to get all petty over me using grandad, what about you calling me delusional in another thread, could kick off about that, but no I won't because I'm not a melt. Anyway back on topic.
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Post by ExeterAddick on Jan 26, 2015 20:34:25 GMT
I think the negative comments come from the fact it is ANOTHER player with zero experience at this level. Surely at this stage of the season we need people with English league experience. Having said that I know nothing about the fella, he might be the best thing since sliced bread. I think this sums up how most people feel. It'd be ludicrous to write him off before he's played a game, but just for a change it'd be nice to bring someone in who is proven at this level (Royston's Glenn Murray example is a good one), rather than an unknown quantity.
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Post by bexleyboy on Jan 26, 2015 20:39:50 GMT
Why do we have to buy English players ... Leeds , Watford , Midd'boro all but foreign players because there cheaper....we have been quoted £4 mill for a div one striker and we get Vetokeke full international for 2.5 mill
Makes sense to look and buy aboard if we can get a better player for half the price
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Post by zxcvbn21 on Jan 26, 2015 20:44:00 GMT
Why do we have to buy English players ... Leeds , Watford , Midd'boro all but foreign players because there cheaper....we have been quoted £4 mill for a div one striker and we get Vetokeke full international for 2.5 mill Makes sense to look and buy aboard if we can get a better player for half the price We don't have to buy English players, just players that have played in England would be nice.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 20:45:36 GMT
4 million quid for Michael Smith jesus.
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Post by wtf on Jan 26, 2015 20:49:42 GMT
Good point Bexley and tbh I think you will stick one right over the bale with your view no doubt your get slated u know wat feck um Very positive
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 26, 2015 20:49:46 GMT
zxcvbn21 can we have a little bit more respect please there is no need at all to relate to people's ages on here to get your point across. As EssexAl says Dick would probably run rings around you in terms of football knowledge 'Grandad' or no 'Grandad'. Inkblot who helps me moderate this forum lives in France and is in his 80's so are you going to insult him too? Just stick to the football please and do it without the personals. I suggest you re read the thread and reprimand your dear friend dick plumb, who started the insults by incinuating that I was stupid. And you and essexal are taking drivel, you know nothing about me, but assume your friend would run rings around me in terms of football knowledge, when you know nothing of my knowledge, ridiculous statement. I suggest you and Essexal take your head out of dickplumbs a hole. And I don't have a clue how old your friend dickplumb is, when I said grandad, I was referring to his rather backward view of football in terms of stats and not to his age, which I do not know. So I would rather you reeled your kneck in. And if we are going to get all petty over me using grandad, what about you calling me delusional in another thread, could kick off about that, but no I won't because I'm not a melt. Anyway back on topic. Would you like a drink of water?!!
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Post by MurciaAl on Jan 26, 2015 20:54:48 GMT
You have got to be pretty stupid, or biased,to say someone is chaff when you haven't seen him play. You can say that of all players in Europe that you haven't seen. I have seen him twice which is two times more than you have seen him. So my opinion is more informed than yours. He is good enough for Sporting Lisbon to have offered him a contract till 2020 with a large buy out clause. He might well turn out to be chaff, but let us give him a chance eh. I never actually said he was chaff did I sir? And because you the almighty dick plumb says he is excellent therefore he is excellent. Why should I take your opinion fully. How do I know your a good judge of a footballer. But because the almighty dick plumb has spoken with his informed opinion I must question no more. Look deeper, why would Lyon sell him if he was excellent?? Why hasn't he gone to a bigger club if he is excellent? Why do the majority of Lyon fans think he was just all height and lacked technique and composure . Why would a player who played 5 games for France in their 2013 under World Cup victory end up at Portugals third biggest team and not the big european Giants. Also take into account that the lad is only 20, how difficult will it be for him to move to a new country with a different language. Also the lower leagues of English football is like leagues no other, the results in the fa cup tell you something this weekend with all the giant killings, this boy will be used to nice continental football, not the rough and tumble of the championship, but we must, not forget he is excellent because duck plumb has seen him play, therefore he holds the most informed opionion and therefore he is correct. I have read through Dick's posts and can't see anywhere that he has said this guy is excellent! All he is saying is give him a chance, he has actually seen him play and rates him on what he has seen, that's good enough for me! As for having my head up his arse, I have never met Dick, but I do respect his knowledge and enjoy his posts, which is more than I can say about yours this evening!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 21:06:22 GMT
Why do we have to buy English players ... Leeds , Watford , Midd'boro all but foreign players because there cheaper....we have been quoted £4 mill for a div one striker and we get Vetokeke full international for 2.5 mill Makes sense to look and buy aboard if we can get a better player for half the price We don't have to buy English players, just players that have played in England would be nice. Would be more than nice!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 21:36:24 GMT
I know this is a radical idea but why don't you make your own mind up after having seen him play, just a thought. There is too much reliance on stats. They don't tell the whole story, this man has played in the Champions League. I only make my mind up about a player that comes in after I have seen him play for us. There have been many players, over the years, who have come into our Club that I have been excited about and they have done nothing. Also when players like Kermorgant and Mendonca joined I was underwhelmed, but they didn't turn out badly. Oh I will make my own mind up. Haha you sound like a 45 year old football pundit, get with the times grandad, stats are key in the modern game. If you have no respect for age, you have no respect for yourself.
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Post by zxcvbn21 on Jan 26, 2015 21:49:51 GMT
I never actually said he was chaff did I sir? And because you the almighty dick plumb says he is excellent therefore he is excellent. Why should I take your opinion fully. How do I know your a good judge of a footballer. But because the almighty dick plumb has spoken with his informed opinion I must question no more. Look deeper, why would Lyon sell him if he was excellent?? Why hasn't he gone to a bigger club if he is excellent? Why do the majority of Lyon fans think he was just all height and lacked technique and composure . Why would a player who played 5 games for France in their 2013 under World Cup victory end up at Portugals third biggest team and not the big european Giants. Also take into account that the lad is only 20, how difficult will it be for him to move to a new country with a different language. Also the lower leagues of English football is like leagues no other, the results in the fa cup tell you something this weekend with all the giant killings, this boy will be used to nice continental football, not the rough and tumble of the championship, but we must, not forget he is excellent because duck plumb has seen him play, therefore he holds the most informed opionion and therefore he is correct. I have read through Dick's posts and can't see anywhere that he has said this guy is excellent! All he is saying is give him a chance, he has actually seen him play and rates him on what he has seen, that's good enough for me! As for having my head up his arse, I have never met Dick, but I do respect his knowledge and enjoy his posts, which is more than I can say about yours this evening! Do yourself a favour and re read his posts before you throw your two bob in. Let's just stay on topic, it's not fair for the others.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 26, 2015 22:28:02 GMT
I think we all need to stay on topic because we all wait for news on new players and when it comes along it takes 20 posts to turn the thread into something else.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 23:24:19 GMT
I've never seen pele play or beckenbauer but going on what everyone else says, they were pretty damn good. But I would be deemed stupid for thinking they' were good because I have never seen them play, ridiculous. Honestly so much negative views and for what! All you doubters who have so much to say on how our club is run and who they employ is beyond me if bullshit had a value then feck me we would have the riches club in the league Why don't you put your money where your mouth is rather than hiding behind a forum and front it head on Just a thought Becuase we aren't multi millionaires we can't be concerned about the football club we have invested countless amounts of money and time into? Incredibly naive way of viewing things.
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