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Post by reamsofverse on Nov 22, 2014 17:05:22 GMT
90 minutes of my life I'll never get back, thank God I can watch games online these days instead of having to get on a train back home to North Wales.
Duchatelet needs to take us seriously or sell up and piss off. He is content with sticking with what we have and drawing games instead of buying/loaning new players to help us win them.
Before anybody blames Tucadean for the late miss he had only been on the pitch five minutes but during that time got closer to the Millwall goal than anybody else did in the previous 85!
It was 0-0 with 15' to go and we won a corner yet put three men in their box!! what was that all about Bob?
Ipswich will be rubbing their hands at the thought of playing us next weekend.
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Post by yorkshireaddick on Nov 22, 2014 17:08:27 GMT
Too cautious,simple as that,proven by as you say, three f*****ng men in the box from a corner well into the second half.
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Post by reamsofverse on Nov 22, 2014 17:11:58 GMT
I found that shocking Yorks to be honest just as I did watching Peeters sat on his arse legs crossed a few minutes before.
I just want to point something else out too, why is Bob so arrogant after games? Quite often I see the opposing manager having to come looking for him to shake his hand, Holloway had to walk halfway across the pitch to do so today which I found unsporting.
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Post by yorkshireaddick on Nov 22, 2014 17:17:11 GMT
Yes I was absolutely gob smacked to see it as well,no wonder we have no threat from corners,didn't notice that at the end with Peeters but regardless,I am not happy with tactics like that at home,its pathetic.
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Post by yorkshireaddick on Nov 22, 2014 17:20:43 GMT
Nobody played badly neither really which is even more annoying,but Tucadean's fluff at the end was poor and says to me he is over thinking his play,just shoot ffs.
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Post by terryducks on Nov 22, 2014 17:22:35 GMT
whether he plays or not this team will find a way not to win call me mystic meg. clueless once again drawing with a weak millwall side . |
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Post by reamsofverse on Nov 22, 2014 17:35:47 GMT
I agree Millwall were poor and there for the taking but we never at any stage looked like we were going to beat them.
We were not good enough again and the negative tactics from Peeters are beginning to grate a little bit.
If Tucadean had been on the pitch a bit earlier he would have been up to match speed he would and probably scored at the end instead of taking too many touches.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 17:40:54 GMT
Why will Ipswich be "rubbing their hands" at the prospect of playing us, reams?
We are the second hardest team to beat in the country this season.
So surely Ipswich will be saying, 'shit! how on earth how do we beat this lot? They've only lost twice in 18 games, which means that out of 92 league clubs, only Chelsea are harder to beat'...
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Post by terryducks on Nov 22, 2014 17:46:39 GMT
Anyone see harriot bottle that tackle in injury time first half
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Post by reamsofverse on Nov 22, 2014 17:59:58 GMT
Why will Ipswich be "rubbing their hands" at the prospect of playing us, reams? We are the second hardest team to beat in the country this season. So surely Ipswich will be saying, 'shit! how on earth how do we beat this lot? They've only lost twice in 18 games, which means that out of 92 league clubs, only Chelsea are harder to beat'... Won't we be thinking 'shit' how do we beat these when we have only won 6 games in 18? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 18:08:12 GMT
Why will Ipswich be "rubbing their hands" at the prospect of playing us, reams? We are the second hardest team to beat in the country this season. So surely Ipswich will be saying, 'shit! how on earth how do we beat this lot? They've only lost twice in 18 games, which means that out of 92 league clubs, only Chelsea are harder to beat'... Won't we be thinking 'shit' how do we beat these when we have only won 6 games in 18? Yes, I am sure Peeters will be asking searching questions about how we turn one point into three, because in the recent form table (last five games), we have only won once. (Some surprising names, by the way, at the head of that form table - Pardew's Newcastle first with five wins out of five and Brentford second with four wins out of five.) But the fact that we are the second hardest team in the country to break down and beat makes it very hard to criticise Peeters' tactics. If we beat Ipswich, we will probably find ourselves in a play-off place, which is a helluva place to be come the beginning of December. |
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Post by yorkshireaddick on Nov 22, 2014 18:24:35 GMT
Its fine being hard to beat against the top teams of the division though IA,its when the poor teams come,and even worse when its at are place,and being hard to beat against those teams just does not cut it,we should of beat Millwall today they are dire,yet we set up as if they were a top team in the division.
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Post by russcoveredend on Nov 22, 2014 18:32:24 GMT
Last post yep we may b unbeaten for 2games and av to agree with reams this is no good, the amount of games we drew and could of won if we just ad the balls to go for it like reams said ,scum for the taking and we couldn't do that ,perhaps a chance to show wot we can do and we play like that, gutted ain't the word and before anyone says well were better than last season, yes perhaps defence wise ,but we can do this and progress onwards if we ad a go we could of been top of leauge then compare us to chelsea cant keep playing like this all that build up for wot,rd spend your money or put someone in who understands charlton really gutted
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 18:47:48 GMT
Well I have to admire CAFC fans for the grand ambitions they harbour for the club this season.
There we sit, one win off a play-off place and only Chelsea having lost fewer games than us out of 92 league clubs.
But some think "we cant keep playing like this" and are "really gutted" ; others think we are at such a low ebb in our fortunes that "Duchatelet needs to take us seriously or sell up and piss off."
My genuine respect to those who think two defeats and two points off a play-off place with 40 per cent of the season gone simply isn't good enough.
Perhaps I am too easily pleased; but I confess I am very happy with where we are right now and the splendid platform we have created to build upon in the second half of the season.
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Post by reamsofverse on Nov 22, 2014 18:50:18 GMT
Won't we be thinking 'shit' how do we beat these when we have only won 6 games in 18? Yes, I am sure Peeters will be asking searching questions about how we turn one point into three, because in the recent form table (last five games), we have only won once. (Some surprising names, by the way, at the head of that form table - Pardew's Newcastle first with five wins out of five and Brentford second with four wins out of five.) But the fact that we are the second hardest team in the country to break down and beat makes it very hard to criticise Peeters' tactics. If we beat Ipswich, we will probably find ourselves in a play-off place, which is a helluva place to be come the beginning of December. Don't get what your saying at all. You say if we beat Ipswich we will probably be in a play off-place but it's a big if, certainly bigger than if we had beaten Millwall today we would have been in a play-off place too! |
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Post by russcoveredend on Nov 22, 2014 18:53:55 GMT
Yep me again, also wot im trying to say is we've so many top teams not really getting the results of late were would we b know if we just ad a go more, it wont b long when norwich start perfoming, fulham and forest who ad a great result today,and wot im worried bout is when these teams start playing were the f"@#k r we gonna b still drawing and being pleased with a draw bollocks
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Post by terryducks on Nov 22, 2014 19:01:19 GMT
Well I have to admire CAFC fans for the grand ambitions they harbour for the club this season. There we sit, one win off a play-off place and only Chelsea having lost fewer games than us out of 92 league clubs. But some think "we cant keep playing like this" and are "really gutted" ; others think we are at such a low ebb in our fortunes that "Duchatelet needs to take us seriously or sell up and piss off." My genuine respect to those who think two defeats and two points off a play-off place with 40 per cent of the season gone simply isn't good enough. Perhaps I am too easily pleased; but I confess I am very happy with where we are right now and the splendid platform we have created to build upon in the second half of the season. yes hundred percent your easily pleased . let me break it down for you. We played a weak millwall team and still could not beat them it's actually pathetic how anyone could be pleased to draw at home to your rivals but sadly at charlton it's the norm . We play a real drab style of football setting up not to lose but not to win either and it cancels out Any ambition . We have this skill of actually kicking off at 3 pm and looking already like we have a goal at best in us. I left five minutes early safe in the knowledge that we had about as much chance of doing a Brentford last minute derby win as pigs flying |
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Post by novice on Nov 22, 2014 19:18:55 GMT
Anyone see harriot bottle that tackle in injury time first half Yes. He always does. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 19:21:06 GMT
I just want to point something else out too, why is Bob so arrogant after games? Quite often I see the opposing manager having to come looking for him to shake his hand, Holloway had to walk halfway across the pitch to do so today which I found unsporting. Having watched a quite a number of European matches, it always seemed a good idea to me that the referee and linesmen walk over and meet the two team coaches and shake their hands before the start of the match. It never seems to have caught on in the UK it would seem. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 19:21:55 GMT
As said, I respect the ambition of all you gung-ho guys who look at what has been a fantastic season so far and and say 'this is simply not good enough, we demand so, so much more'.
That's very healthy.
I confess that at the start of the season, my sad and pathetic lack of ambition told me that I would be happy if we could maintain a comfortable mid-table position without flirting with relegation (as we did for the entirety of last season), but without expecting us to mount a challenge for the play-offs.
If you had told me we would be in this position after 18 games - which gives us every chance of making the play-offs - I would have laughed at you. But I admit it, guys, I was wrong in my lack of ambition. Those of you who apparently always expected and demanded that we make the play-offs were absolutely right, because given the excellent season we have had so far, we now have every chance of doing so.
Respect, once again, to your ambitions. You were right to expect so much and I was wrong, because I had assumed that promotion was going to take 2-3 years of patient rebuilding after the train-wreck of the 2013-14 season.
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Post by bexleyboy on Nov 22, 2014 19:24:42 GMT
90 minutes of my life I'll never get back, thank God I can watch games online these days instead of having to get on a train back home to North Wales. Duchatelet needs to take us seriously or sell up and piss off. He is content with sticking with what we have and drawing games instead of buying/loaning new players to help us win them. Before anybody blames Tucadean for the late miss he had only been on the pitch five minutes but during that time got closer to the Millwall goal than anybody else did in the previous 85! It was 0-0 with 15' to go and we won a corner yet put three men in their box!! what was that all about Bob? Ipswich will be rubbing their hands at the thought of playing us next weekend. That was simple TBH left the field of play and we had to pull players back to cover that's why we were left short in the box .... |
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Post by bexleyboy on Nov 22, 2014 19:28:32 GMT
Well I have to admire CAFC fans for the grand ambitions they harbour for the club this season. There we sit, one win off a play-off place and only Chelsea having lost fewer games than us out of 92 league clubs. But some think "we cant keep playing like this" and are "really gutted" ; others think we are at such a low ebb in our fortunes that "Duchatelet needs to take us seriously or sell up and piss off." My genuine respect to those who think two defeats and two points off a play-off place with 40 per cent of the season gone simply isn't good enough. Perhaps I am too easily pleased; but I confess I am very happy with where we are right now and the splendid platform we have created to build upon in the second half of the season. yes hundred percent your easily pleased . let me break it down for you. We played a weak millwall team and still could not beat them it's actually pathetic how anyone could be pleased to draw at home to your rivals but sadly at charlton it's the norm . We play a real drab style of football setting up not to lose but not to win either and it cancels out Any ambition . We have this skill of actually kicking off at 3 pm and looking already like we have a goal at best in us. I left five minutes early safe in the knowledge that we had about as much chance of doing a Brentford last minute derby win as pigs flying Drab style of football you having a laugh mate was you there last season ? This year compared to last is liking watching Barcelona ... We are trying to play decent football and we are today done of our football was too class .. But we are work in progress forget play offs that was ever the plan this year safe position was our aim and we are a long way to getting it long time before season end |
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Post by reamsofverse on Nov 22, 2014 19:32:43 GMT
I just don't get fans using last season as an example of how much we have improved.
Last season under Powell I saw some of the worst football in all my 30 years it could not have got any worse so hardly a marker for how much we have improved this season.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 19:38:07 GMT
90 minutes of my life I'll never get back, thank God I can watch games online these days instead of having to get on a train back home to North Wales. Duchatelet needs to take us seriously or sell up and piss off. He is content with sticking with what we have and drawing games instead of buying/loaning new players to help us win them. Before anybody blames Tucadean for the late miss he had only been on the pitch five minutes but during that time got closer to the Millwall goal than anybody else did in the previous 85! It was 0-0 with 15' to go and we won a corner yet put three men in their box!! what was that all about Bob? Ipswich will be rubbing their hands at the thought of playing us next weekend. **Duchatelet needs to take us seriously or sell up and piss off.** I think he's showing up to be more ambitious for the club than Jiminez and Slater were, so that comment I think was a bit harsh. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 19:42:52 GMT
Well I have to admire CAFC fans for the grand ambitions they harbour for the club this season. There we sit, one win off a play-off place and only Chelsea having lost fewer games than us out of 92 league clubs. But some think "we cant keep playing like this" and are "really gutted" ; others think we are at such a low ebb in our fortunes that "Duchatelet needs to take us seriously or sell up and piss off." My genuine respect to those who think two defeats and two points off a play-off place with 40 per cent of the season gone simply isn't good enough. Perhaps I am too easily pleased; but I confess I am very happy with where we are right now and the splendid platform we have created to build upon in the second half of the season. I pretty much agree with what you say. Whilst we are not very attractive to watch it is a results business and we are moving in the right direction. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Nov 22, 2014 19:45:05 GMT
Duchatelet does not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as those two robbing bastards so yes maybe it is a bit harsh but surely he knew in the summer that we were always going to end up with one decent striker once the season started to unravel and that is exactly what has happened. The striker situation has been careless.
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Post by reamsofverse on Nov 22, 2014 19:53:20 GMT
Well I have to admire CAFC fans for the grand ambitions they harbour for the club this season. There we sit, one win off a play-off place and only Chelsea having lost fewer games than us out of 92 league clubs. But some think "we cant keep playing like this" and are "really gutted" ; others think we are at such a low ebb in our fortunes that "Duchatelet needs to take us seriously or sell up and piss off." My genuine respect to those who think two defeats and two points off a play-off place with 40 per cent of the season gone simply isn't good enough. Perhaps I am too easily pleased; but I confess I am very happy with where we are right now and the splendid platform we have created to build upon in the second half of the season. I pretty much agree with what you say. Whilst we are not very attractive to watch it is a results business and we are moving in the right direction. But surely that depends on what you regard as a result? We have beaten teams we shouldn't and also drawn against teams that we should have beaten. If you look at the season thus far and concentrate on the defeats then we have done very well but looking at the number of wins I would say winning just a third of our games is disappointing. At the end of the day it's the teams with the most points who get out of the division and while we have only dropped maximum points twice it's the ten draws where we are falling down. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 20:00:39 GMT
I pretty much agree with what you say. Whilst we are not very attractive to watch it is a results business and we are moving in the right direction. But surely that depends on what you regard as a result? We have beaten teams we shouldn't and also drawn against teams that we should have beaten. If you look at the season thus far and concentrate on the defeats then we have done very well but looking at the number of wins I would say winning just a third of our games is disappointing. At the end of the day it's the teams with the most points who get out of the division and while we have only dropped maximum points twice it's the ten draws where we are falling down. If at start of the season we were told we would be two points off the play-offs and four points behind second place come the 22nd November, EVERY Charlton fan at The Valley today would have taken that. |
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Post by bexleyboy on Nov 22, 2014 20:08:01 GMT
I was told yesterday we are playing 442 then Henderson got injured ... Looks like we changed our system because we had two young players in the back four ....
I. Think we were the only team playing football and looked very comfortable really the whole game ... Pope first real save was in the 80 min which tells you how much we controlled the game .
The loss of Buyons was a massive blow he was having an excellent game to that point .... looking at it now perhaps Bulot would have been better then Harriott .
Another point towards safety ....
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Post by reamsofverse on Nov 22, 2014 20:14:30 GMT
I was told yesterday we are playing 442 then Henderson got injured ... Looks like we changed our system because we had two young players in the back four .... I. Think we were the only team playing football and looked very comfortable really the whole game ... Pope first real save was in the 80 min which tells you how much we controlled the game . The loss of Buyons was a massive blow he was having an excellent game to that point .... looking at it now perhaps Bulot would have been better then Harriott . Another point towards safety .... Henderson plays in goal, how would that affect the outfield formation? we played four at the back so what are you on about?  Not sure how you can say it's another point to safety, that really is a ridiculous comment, we were playing a poor Millwall side Bexleyboy who were there for the taking yet went 4-5-1 switching it with 8 minutes to go to 4-4-2!! Bob bottled it then comes out and says Tucadean should have scored, perhaps if he had been given more than 10 minutes he might have done so. |
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