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Post by aaronaldo on Jan 6, 2024 19:08:53 GMT
Anyone watching Appleton’s post match interview with hopeless Terry Smith would have to conclude that he’s not under pressure. His answers were complete rubbish, but he certainly doesn’t act or sound like a man worried about a pending visit to the Jobcentre . It’s all very odd. It makes very little sense. If he’s not worried now, how bad does it need to get before he is?
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Post by norfolkrobin on Jan 6, 2024 19:22:02 GMT
Anyone watching Appleton’s post match interview with hopeless Terry Smith would have to conclude that he’s not under pressure. His answers were complete rubbish, but he certainly doesn’t act or sound like a man worried about a pending visit to the Jobcentre . It’s all very odd. It makes very little sense. If he’s not worried now, how bad does it need to get before he is? I think he's sure AS can't pull the trigger because it'll put the spotlight on Scott for botching the "search" and appointment. How many more late goals are we going to concede??? It's frankly pathetic,we can't go on like this.
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Post by newyorkaddick on Jan 7, 2024 9:57:45 GMT
If we lose to Posh next weekend then Appleton's record will be absolutely identical to Ben Garner's ie. 24 points from 20 games made up of 5 wins, 9 draws and 6 defeats.
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Post by watameires on Jan 7, 2024 10:26:17 GMT
Ive now given up listening to his interviews. Appleton out!
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Post by DFT on Jan 7, 2024 10:34:11 GMT
If we lose to Posh next weekend then Appleton's record will be absolutely identical to Ben Garner's ie. 24 points from 20 games made up of 5 wins, 9 draws and 6 defeats. And look what happened to him!
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Post by kings hill addick on Jan 7, 2024 10:36:17 GMT
If we lose to Posh next weekend then Appleton's record will be absolutely identical to Ben Garner's ie. 24 points from 20 games made up of 5 wins, 9 draws and 6 defeats. And look what happened to him! To be fair, Garner was sacked for calling out Sandgaard and demanding new players. Appleton has called for reinforcements but Scott is on the same page and has agreed that we need more quality. That said I don’t want either of them managing us going forward.
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Post by seriouslyred on Jan 7, 2024 19:45:48 GMT
And look what happened to him! To be fair, Garner was sacked for calling out Sandgaard and demanding new players. Appleton has called for reinforcements but Scott is on the same page and has agreed that we need more quality. That said I don’t want either of them managing us going forward. For me they are both in the last chance saloon! That's not wishful thinking, more observation and calculation of what might happen next. Two loans have gone back already, we've just signed Fiorini who has played for Appleton over the last two seasons and various players are due back from injury very soon. Every game we fail to win, the temperature should go up. Will the SMT and Appleton unite? And will the investors tolerate such gross failure if we slip any further?! Having said that, this may not be linear - some random events or a brilliant / catastrophic* performance may well change things. Or will they simply slide down the table one week at a time? At what point does Appleton's tenure need to end? And are they already looking?
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Post by Mundell on Jan 7, 2024 21:55:42 GMT
To be fair, Garner was sacked for calling out Sandgaard and demanding new players. Appleton has called for reinforcements but Scott is on the same page and has agreed that we need more quality. That said I don’t want either of them managing us going forward. For me they are both in the last chance saloon! That's not wishful thinking, more observation and calculation of what might happen next. Two loans have gone back already, we've just signed Fiorini who has played for Appleton over the last two seasons and various players are due back from injury very soon. Every game we fail to win, the temperature should go up. Will the SMT and Appleton unite? And will the investors tolerate such gross failure if we slip any further?! Having said that, this may not be linear - some random events or a brilliant / catastrophic* performance may well change things. Or will they simply slide down the table one week at a time? At what point does Appleton's tenure need to end? And are they already looking? My guess is as follows, 1. To state the blindingly obvious nobody will be happy. 2. The investors will probably buy the argument that Sandgaard left the club in a mess and with a disjointed, unbalanced squad containing a number of onerous contract liabilities. They won’t be happy either, but won’t have been expecting promotion this season They’re probably still comfortably onside. For now. Pressure will build if we’re not strong promotion contenders next season. 3. Scott and Appleton are probably joined at the hip at this point. It would be hard for Scott to fire Appleton based on results alone. If aside from results Appleton is “behaving” he’ll get to the season’s end or longer. Unless we look like we might go down. Then all bets are off. 4. A wild card is Scott’s relationship with Rodwell and Methven. If that’s not good he’s vulnerable. It’s interesting that he’s not involved on Wednesday. 5. Methven will be trying to reassure the investors that despite our disappointing results, the club has a clear strategy and that it is steadily being implemented. What else can he do? From his perspective, major personnel changes less than six months in are not ideal. I doubt he’d want them made based simply on outcomes. At least not yet. 6. Almost certainly, the SMT will be hoping that this transfer window goes to plan and that results improve over the next couple of months. Nobody will want serious disruption until we’re through that period. Just my guess.
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Post by davelowerwest on Jan 9, 2024 15:02:05 GMT
Does anyone on here have any idea if these 2 loan signings are match fit, possibly to be in the squad for Saturday, or just 2 other injury prone signings?
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Post by newyorkaddick on Jan 9, 2024 15:20:49 GMT
Does anyone on here have any idea if these 2 loan signings are match fit, possibly to be in the squad for Saturday, or just 2 other injury prone signings? Bakinson has been coming on as sub for Wednesday recently so is presumably fit unless already bitten by the Charlton injury curse. Fiorini hasn't played much football at all hence Appleton's cautious comments.
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Post by wiggyatthebackpost on Jan 13, 2024 16:04:16 GMT
Think it clearly shows who the problem is,system,tactics etc are awful. No wonder he's been sacked so many times.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2024 16:09:12 GMT
Terrible manager. One of the worst we've had in recent years.
I just hope that when players like Coventry and Gilesphey say that he was part of the reason they signed, they we're just saying it because it's the right thing to say.
He has to go if the owners want to get out of this league. Appleton will get us out, but not up!
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Post by aaronaldo on Jan 13, 2024 16:31:32 GMT
It’s a concern for me that we’re looking to invest in a quality squad but seem to have cut corner on the manager.
Whilst he may be a great coach, I’m not sure his man management and tactics (which really is the majority of the role!) are anywhere near as good.
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Post by norfolkrobin on Jan 13, 2024 17:09:39 GMT
It’s a concern for me that we’re looking to invest in a quality squad but seem to have cut corner on the manager. Whilst he may be a great coach, I’m not sure his man management and tactics (which really is the majority of the role!) are anywhere near as good. I think SE7 need to wake up NOW! Pissing away points thinking come Feb 1st we'll turn into something special. All this Elite,Elite waffle we're shocking and can't do the basics to a competent level!?
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Jan 13, 2024 17:11:30 GMT
30 points from 26 league games.
1 win in 12 under Appleton.
Rarely seen us looking so disorganised & disjointed.
If football really is a results business, we get a Club Statement tonight.
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Post by norfolkrobin on Jan 13, 2024 17:14:17 GMT
30 points from 26 league games. 1 win in 12 under Appleton. Rarely seen us looking so disorganised & disjointed. If football really is a results business, we get a Club Statement tonight. Ask Gary Rowett the question,he'll more than likely tell us to jog on,but at least we'll know.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 13, 2024 17:14:47 GMT
Got to get rid of the cnut.
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Post by aaronaldo on Jan 13, 2024 17:15:44 GMT
We need to line up a replacement first though imo. We don’t want to end up with worse
Edit: I mentioned it when we appointed him. I really hope we have some succession planning for a manager (and other roles / players etc). I had a feeling he wouldn’t be here long.
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Post by eric on Jan 13, 2024 17:16:26 GMT
This bloke is fucking clueless. I don’t understand why fans don’t give him a harder time , he is simply useless. Methven , Scott , Rodwell for fuck sake get rid of this prick . That first half was a fucking insult to all Charlton fans . He just stands there like on the touch line doing sweet fa , you may as well have a wheels bin doing his job . Bin him off ffs . Will post again when calmed down .
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Post by scabbyhorse on Jan 13, 2024 17:20:15 GMT
I'd take Rowett
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Post by norfolkrobin on Jan 13, 2024 17:21:26 GMT
Got to get rid of the cnut. Don't wanna hear excuses anymore,about "Posh group been together for years" "We're relying on kids" ect I can't fathom how we've become an even softer touch under his watch. If SE7 are ruthless and ambitious a call has to be made.
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Post by scabbyhorse on Jan 13, 2024 17:22:06 GMT
For one a decent manager wouldn't have started with that formation and team selection and Two, a decent manager would of changed formation after 20 mins.
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Post by scabbyhorse on Jan 13, 2024 17:37:39 GMT
Maybe he will be sacked when the transfer window closes as not to scupper and signings in the pipeline?
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Post by Joinerama on Jan 13, 2024 17:53:43 GMT
Smug Garvin Carter said Appleton had their full backing on Wednesday night. Lack of concern about results is baffling.
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Post by manikin on Jan 13, 2024 17:54:23 GMT
How the bloody hell does someone like Appleton with his football so called expertise, ever become a manager and why does his like keep ending up at Charlton and we've had a few. SE7 get a bloody grip.
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Post by norfolkrobin on Jan 13, 2024 19:30:07 GMT
Smug Garvin Carter said Appleton had their full backing on Wednesday night. Lack of concern about results is baffling. This attitude of thinking the tide will turn when the window closes and we can start our rise comfortable mid-table obscurity is seriously naieve. Stats are there for all to see,I know stats can be manipulated to push whatever narrative you want,but we're shocking,the lack of defensive organisation is obsurd. Come on now....one win in 12 is it? Something tells me if these SE7 lot were seeing similar trends in other business interests they would'nt hesitate.
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Post by melrose555 on Jan 13, 2024 22:34:48 GMT
Quite simply, he has got to go. Never seen such a inept manager in every way. SE7 continue to back him at their own peril. He won't have a clue how to get the best out of the new signings. Well just about escape relegation, but what a total shit show
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Post by watameires on Jan 13, 2024 22:50:25 GMT
Just seen the fixtures for next month. Be amazed if he lasts through to the end of Feb
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Post by valley on Jan 13, 2024 23:12:31 GMT
Just seen the fixtures for next month. Be amazed if he lasts through to the end of Feb Peter Varney said Charlton need 50 points to retain their L1 status. They have a lot of top L1 teams to play and need 7 wins so I see the away games at Burton and Reading and the home games v Northampton,Lincoln,Carlisle,Wigan and Shrewsbury as must win games.
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Post by redplanet on Jan 14, 2024 2:06:48 GMT
Maybe he is a "Player's coach" - popular at the training ground but he is hopeless as a 'Manager' before, during and even after match days.
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