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Post by smudge7946 on Jan 24, 2024 6:54:33 GMT
That's great news to wake up to.
The club statement was a picture of The Valley from above!
Our next appointment has to be thought out. We can't hire and fire every 9 months. We need stability
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Post by aaronaldo on Jan 24, 2024 7:51:45 GMT
Duff or Eustace for me
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Post by ExeterAddick on Jan 24, 2024 7:54:43 GMT
Rowett for me, or Eustace/Duff after that.
Jones is a wildcard. It could be inspired or another disaster. I think there's a reason why no other club has touched him since Southampton gave him the boot.
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Post by gorman on Jan 24, 2024 8:03:26 GMT
While Andy Scott remains I will be suprised if we get a decent manager who can put his own stamp and style on the team. Andy Scott has been the constant through this long period of poor performance. He need to go now as well.
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Post by pulled off at half time on Jan 24, 2024 8:18:01 GMT
Please no putting the band back together with Powell and Dyer !
Dyer’s pre match contribution was trying to hit the cross bar every game and Powell record since us proves he is isn’t the tactical genius many proclaim .
The only ex manager I would consider is Bowyer
But they really need to take their time here and get it right and I honestly don’t think they have been considering other managers until Saturday otherwise why give Appleton a say in recruitment.
Going to be one hell of a hard sell to convince any decent manager to come here though
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Post by mikebassett on Jan 24, 2024 8:18:50 GMT
At this stage, might as well just pick someone out of the crowd to manage the team each week. We go through enough managers as it is, 50-odd over a season wouldn’t be that mental for Charlton Athletic.
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Post by ExeterAddick on Jan 24, 2024 8:28:05 GMT
At this stage, might as well just pick someone out of the crowd to manage the team each week. We go through enough managers as it is, 50-odd over a season wouldn’t be that mental for Charlton Athletic. Most of us would do a better job than Micky Apples |
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Post by tidyjensen on Jan 24, 2024 8:32:10 GMT
@reams are you hearing any news this morning?
Cheers
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Post by scabbyhorse on Jan 24, 2024 8:35:30 GMT
Whose decision was it to let Appleton not only take charge last night but also to not have sacked him after Saturday? And who hired him in the first place when it was quite obvious it was never going to work out at our club? Poor decision after poor decision is what I am struggling to understand this morning.
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Post by zhengsociety on Jan 24, 2024 8:36:21 GMT
Still struggling to feel positive about this.
Appleton being sacked isn’t a cause for celebration for me; it’s a sad reflection of where we are as a club. Sorry to be such a downer but our club is at its lowest ebb.
Mentioning people like Potter or Cooper is just dreaming. Right now, Charlton Athletic is an average-to-bad league one club. We’re not a big club anymore. We have small attendances at home and don’t sell out away allocations (this is not a dig at people who don’t attend - why would you waste hours on this crap?).
We’re losing fans by the week and missing out on generations of young fans. Let’s be honest, young kids growing up in SE London are more likely to support Palace or Millwall now.
Years of mismanagement have led us here and it continues with this current is ownership group. I haven’t woken up happy Appleton has gone, I’ve woke up feeling depressed about the state we’re in that he was there in the first place. Last night was one of the darkest days for Charlton in my lifetime if I’m being honest.
Sorry for the rant. Just needed to get it off my chest.
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Post by manikin on Jan 24, 2024 8:42:17 GMT
That's great news to wake up to. The club statement was a picture of The Valley from above! Our next appointment has to be thought out. We can't hire and fire every 9 months. We need stability We have now had more managers in the last eighteen years than we had in the previous eighty six. Quality and stability is certainly needed. |
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Post by scabbyhorse on Jan 24, 2024 9:19:55 GMT
On the plus side, I honestly believe that whoever takes over, with one or two more additions, we have a decent enough squad to stay up and actually finish in the top 6 next season. Dreaming of automatic promotion next season could be a reality with a couple more quality players in the summer. Some of our players are not as bad as they are currently showing, but they have been mirroring the god-awful manager who was leading them.
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Post by scabbyhorse on Jan 24, 2024 9:25:49 GMT
I might be wrong but surely a midfield 3 of Dobson and Coventry as your holding players with L Watson in front of them behind the front two would of given Appletons team a more balanced look in the last two winnable games? Why couldn't he see it?  |
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Post by returnofpiestalker on Jan 24, 2024 9:38:19 GMT
Now we see what their plan is. Next appointment is the intent appointment. No excuses.
Appleton was just available we all knew he was a talentless fraud skanking a living, the whole industry does.
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Post by earlpurple on Jan 24, 2024 9:43:55 GMT
1. Not Chris Powell. He did well when he rebuilt the whole team, but in the first half-season, although we won the first 4 the run after that was terrible. If Phil Parkinson had not got us near the playoffs with that team we'd have gone down on that run. Phil Parkinson has subsequently proved to be a good manager, taking Bradford from 18th in League Two to the playoffs in League One with a League Cup Final and an FA Cup quarter final along the way, before taking Bolton up and now he's doing quite well at Wrexham. He failed at Sunderland but that's all.
2. Lee Bowyer was losing it towards the end, but did keep Birmingham up that season. I don't think he'd get on with Scott. In general he did ok with Steve Gallen. It was after Bowyer left that Gallen's quality of signing went downhill, albeit we did bring in some poor players along the way even under Bowyer.
3. Defence is our key issue at the moment. We have conceded the 2nd highest number of goals in League One after Fleetwood. Our goal difference is only -2 indicating we are scoring enough. Watching last night, bad decision making cost us the 1st and 3rd of the goals. Decision making is a key part of the game, the players need training on it.
4. I want a good professional manager / coach. I don't care if he's ever had a previous connection with Charlton Athletic, or any rival club, as long as he can do a good job here.
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Post by AndyAddick on Jan 24, 2024 10:37:30 GMT
1. Not Chris Powell. He did well when he rebuilt the whole team, but in the first half-season, although we won the first 4 the run after that was terrible. If Phil Parkinson had not got us near the playoffs with that team we'd have gone down on that run. Phil Parkinson has subsequently proved to be a good manager, taking Bradford from 18th in League Two to the playoffs in League One with a League Cup Final and an FA Cup quarter final along the way, before taking Bolton up and now he's doing quite well at Wrexham. He failed at Sunderland but that's all. 2. Lee Bowyer was losing it towards the end, but did keep Birmingham up that season. I don't think he'd get on with Scott. In general he did ok with Steve Gallen. It was after Bowyer left that Gallen's quality of signing went downhill, albeit we did bring in some poor players along the way even under Bowyer. 3. Defence is our key issue at the moment. We have conceded the 2nd highest number of goals in League One after Fleetwood. Our goal difference is only -2 indicating we are scoring enough. Watching last night, bad decision making cost us the 1st and 3rd of the goals. Decision making is a key part of the game, the players need training on it. 4. I want a good professional manager / coach. I don't care if he's ever had a previous connection with Charlton Athletic, or any rival club, as long as he can do a good job here. I swear , if I hear / read far king Chris Powell once more I’m going to go mad ! He’s not very good ffs !! All this man love for him ffs get over it |
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Post by AndyAddick on Jan 24, 2024 10:40:01 GMT
That's great news to wake up to. The club statement was a picture of The Valley from above! Our next appointment has to be thought out. We can't hire and fire every 9 months. We need stability We have now had more managers in the last eighteen years than we had in the previous eighty six. Quality and stability is certainly needed. It’s not just the manager , it’s the shite rolled out in the pitch every match, they just arnt good enough. |
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Post by valleyfaithful on Jan 24, 2024 10:40:02 GMT
1. Not Chris Powell. He did well when he rebuilt the whole team, but in the first half-season, although we won the first 4 the run after that was terrible. If Phil Parkinson had not got us near the playoffs with that team we'd have gone down on that run. Phil Parkinson has subsequently proved to be a good manager, taking Bradford from 18th in League Two to the playoffs in League One with a League Cup Final and an FA Cup quarter final along the way, before taking Bolton up and now he's doing quite well at Wrexham. He failed at Sunderland but that's all. 2. Lee Bowyer was losing it towards the end, but did keep Birmingham up that season. I don't think he'd get on with Scott. In general he did ok with Steve Gallen. It was after Bowyer left that Gallen's quality of signing went downhill, albeit we did bring in some poor players along the way even under Bowyer. 3. Defence is our key issue at the moment. We have conceded the 2nd highest number of goals in League One after Fleetwood. Our goal difference is only -2 indicating we are scoring enough. Watching last night, bad decision making cost us the 1st and 3rd of the goals. Decision making is a key part of the game, the players need training on it. 4. I want a good professional manager / coach. I don't care if he's ever had a previous connection with Charlton Athletic, or any rival club, as long as he can do a good job here. I swear , if I hear / read far king Chris Powell once more I’m going to go mad ! He’s not very good ffs !! All this man love for him ffs get over it Chris Powell, Johnnie Jackson, Lee Bowyer - I don't get fans fascinations with looking backwards! Even friends of mine who are footballing people are suggesting the same thing. 'Oh it should be people who know the club', being an ex-player gives you no additional ability to manage a team you used to play for. Dean Holden was more connected than any manager outside of the three above and he was one of the poorest tactically.
People need to grow up and Charlton need to appoint the best man available for the job. Simple as that.
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Post by AndyAddick on Jan 24, 2024 10:41:28 GMT
I swear , if I hear / read far king Chris Powell once more I’m going to go mad ! He’s not very good ffs !! All this man love for him ffs get over it Chris Powell, Johnnie Jackson, Lee Bowyer - I don't get fans fascinations with looking backwards! Even friends of mine who are footballing people are suggesting the same thing. 'Oh it should be people who know the club', being an ex-player gives you no additional ability to manage a team you used to play for. Dean Holden was more connected than any manager outside of the three above and he was one of the poorest tactically.
People need to grow up and Charlton need to appoint the best man available for the job. Simple as that.
Fans need to get into their heads , it’s a JOB !! Not a love affair |
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Post by joeblack on Jan 24, 2024 10:42:55 GMT
I swear , if I hear / read far king Chris Powell once more I’m going to go mad ! He’s not very good ffs !! All this man love for him ffs get over it Chris Powell, Johnnie Jackson, Lee Bowyer - I don't get fans fascinations with looking backwards! Even friends of mine who are footballing people are suggesting the same thing. 'Oh it should be people who know the club', being an ex-player gives you no additional ability to manage a team you used to play for. Dean Holden was more connected than any manager outside of the three above and he was one of the poorest tactically.
People need to grow up and Charlton need to appoint the best man available for the job. Simple as that.
This with bells on. Stop living in the past and appoint the best person willing to risk their reputation with us. Best, not cheapest. Best, not ex Charlton. Best. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Jan 24, 2024 10:46:14 GMT
1. Not Chris Powell. He did well when he rebuilt the whole team, but in the first half-season, although we won the first 4 the run after that was terrible. If Phil Parkinson had not got us near the playoffs with that team we'd have gone down on that run. Phil Parkinson has subsequently proved to be a good manager, taking Bradford from 18th in League Two to the playoffs in League One with a League Cup Final and an FA Cup quarter final along the way, before taking Bolton up and now he's doing quite well at Wrexham. He failed at Sunderland but that's all. 2. Lee Bowyer was losing it towards the end, but did keep Birmingham up that season. I don't think he'd get on with Scott. In general he did ok with Steve Gallen. It was after Bowyer left that Gallen's quality of signing went downhill, albeit we did bring in some poor players along the way even under Bowyer. 3. Defence is our key issue at the moment. We have conceded the 2nd highest number of goals in League One after Fleetwood. Our goal difference is only -2 indicating we are scoring enough. Watching last night, bad decision making cost us the 1st and 3rd of the goals. Decision making is a key part of the game, the players need training on it. 4. I want a good professional manager / coach. I don't care if he's ever had a previous connection with Charlton Athletic, or any rival club, as long as he can do a good job here. I swear , if I hear / read far king Chris Powell once more I’m going to go mad ! He’s not very good ffs !! All this man love for him ffs get over it I'll raise you Jason Euell Please no. |
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Post by cafcjack83 on Jan 24, 2024 10:57:36 GMT
My prediction (not saying I want this) Nigel Pearson assisted by Fleming and Euell
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Post by AndyAddick on Jan 24, 2024 10:59:49 GMT
My prediction (not saying I want this) Nigel Pearson assisted by Fleming and Euell Kim Grant |
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Post by charltonforlife on Jan 24, 2024 11:01:27 GMT
Even though it never nice seeing someone lose their job Apples was clearly not the caliber manager we need.
I put the case forward for Michael Duff.
1) Clearly proven in this division.
2) Built a great team spirit at Cheltenham, got promoted from league 2 and was very competitive in league one with Cheltenham and avoided relegation comfortably and you could say prospered with the limited resources at his disposal.
3) Managed Barnsley last season and having seen them play in 7 occasions whilst visiting family I witnessed a really competitive, well above average league 1 team and performances. Attractive, committed football to watch. Even outplayed Sheff Wed in final and think if they hadn’t lost the player in first 20mins of final would have beat Sheff Wed that day.
4) Clearly can motivate players and clearly has the tactical nous.
5) No weight should be given to Swansea appointment - was never going to fit. All this the “the Swansea way” you immediately are on a loser if you try to implement your style of football which has been successful into a team and supporter base that doesn’t have the flexibility to accept it and run with it. So that was the wrong club for a manager who has built up proven way of playing 3-5-2. Which happens to coincide with what we should be playing with the players we have at our disposal. Michael Duff works in league 1 with a 3-5-2 and and hence we should go all out to appoint him ASAP ( Before somebody else sees the merits in having him as their manager ).
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Post by earlpurple on Jan 24, 2024 11:06:22 GMT
Jason Euell maybe as part of the coaching staff where he was before, possibly U23s or in the academy, but not first team coach.
Michael Duff I'd be happy with for the reasons given above.
John Eustace did a good job at both Kidderminster and Birmingham.
If Duff couldn't do things "The Swansea Way" I hope he won't be expected to do things "The Charlton Way" here (especially if that means playing lots of U21 players that aren't ready).
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Post by 1966andallthat on Jan 24, 2024 11:12:38 GMT
Hi all, Blackpool fan in peace.
Just to say, we feel your pain. From our point of view though it's a pity Appleton isn't still around for us to give him a 'friendly' greeting on Saturday.
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Post by earlpurple on Jan 24, 2024 11:14:48 GMT
If you want to beat Charlton, just play a long ball to the middle of our defence, just not all the way to the goalkeeper, and have players somewhere near the halfway line to pick it up when our defender messes up.
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Post by 1978sussex on Jan 24, 2024 11:17:47 GMT
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Post by 1978sussex on Jan 24, 2024 11:19:14 GMT
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Post by aaronaldo on Jan 24, 2024 11:22:44 GMT
So much change 🙃
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