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Post by aaronaldo on Jan 23, 2024 23:23:16 GMT
I just can’t see someone like Nathan Jones coming in, to put it simply, he will command decent money and we are trying to do everything on the cheap. I don’t expect this to change but I would love to be proven wrong on this. This logic makes no sense. We’ve definitely not done this transfer window on the cheap
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Post by pardew123 on Jan 23, 2024 23:26:50 GMT
Maybe they have been talking to Jones for a while
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Post by Tom1982 on Jan 23, 2024 23:27:01 GMT
I’d like to see Fleming jogged on too. Seen enough to know the geezer is a loser. I sit a few rows back from the dugout and the whole bunch of them are lemons.
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Jan 23, 2024 23:31:16 GMT
I’d like to see Fleming jogged on too. Seen enough to know the geezer is a loser. I sit a few rows back from the dugout and the whole bunch of them are lemons. Needs a clean sweep of the coaching staff. Our set pieces & defending are dire, and that reflects on the whole coaching team. As for the next manager, I see the Usual Suspects over on the other place are out of the traps early, banging the drum for Chris Powell 💤 who’s had zero club success anywhere for at least 10 years, Jason Euell 💤 and Alex Dyer 💤 (sacked by Kilmarnock). Nathan Jones would be a real statement of intent from the investors, but he’s a strong & opinionated character, so would he work with Scott ?
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Post by pardew123 on Jan 23, 2024 23:34:10 GMT
He if backed could take us up the leagues in time he’s done it before it needs building bit by bit
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Post by aaronaldo on Jan 23, 2024 23:35:04 GMT
Jones wouldn’t be my first choice
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Post by Tom1982 on Jan 23, 2024 23:37:03 GMT
This appointment is probably the most important in the clubs history. It’s a massive job and is going to take a big character! If Scott gives this to a Adkins/Garner/Holden type we might as well throw the towel in!
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Post by herewegoagain on Jan 23, 2024 23:38:15 GMT
I just can’t see someone like Nathan Jones coming in, to put it simply, he will command decent money and we are trying to do everything on the cheap. I don’t expect this to change but I would love to be proven wrong on this. This logic makes no sense. We’ve definitely not done this transfer window on the cheap On reflection saying ‘everything on the cheap’ was perhaps unfair given a few of the signings in recent weeks, however the last 2 weeks aside, it has felt that pretty much everything else has often felt like the cheap option, like our old mate Appleton for example.
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Post by paulgdownunder on Jan 23, 2024 23:43:43 GMT
Every time I hear Curbs talking about organising the team (particularly defensively) I see Rowatt who has clearly shown that he fully appreciates the need to set up the team properly as his natural successor. Out of all the post Curbs managers Bows has been the gaffer exhibiting Curbs like qualities and to my mind Rowatt is a better man manager than Bows. As well as his organisational skills he understands the need of recruiting players who hate losing … now that’s a funny old thing!
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Post by se7jw on Jan 23, 2024 23:46:19 GMT
Don’t want Jones. Disaster at his last 2 jobs. He didn't do to bad with luton plus he knows the club from his time working here with the U21s it’s a very different club than the one he was at when with our u21s. Strikes me at a one club man, also don’t think he would even drop down to League 1. He was saying he’s one of the top coaches in Europe at Southampton, can’t see him coming here.
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Post by jonkool on Jan 23, 2024 23:47:47 GMT
Apparently Nathan Jones is favourite for the job, according to talkSPORT. Hope so. Playing wise we need somebody to sort out the shit from the even shitter! That won’t leave many left Reams 😳
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 24, 2024 0:17:54 GMT
What was the point of him taking charge this evening? The board must have known that him being there was going to create a toxic atmosphere from the off and not one the players would have enjoyed playing in either. Big questiions need to be asked on that score.
They could have just asked Jason Pearce to oversee footballing matters for this one game, it's 90 minutes FFS.
CM and co. just cannot afford to get their next decision wrong. For certain individuals it might be their last. Appointling a former Charlton manager would be madness. Curbs has to be appointed higher up in an advisory role and Steve Brown needs to be involved on a day to day basis at Sparrows Lane. The players need a presence around the place and that was not Appleton.
If the Americans really want to through money at it and make a huge statement then they should go for Steve Cooper followed by Nathan Jones or Michael Duff.
Setting up a reunion with the likes of Chris Powell and Alex Dyer 12 years on might float the boat of certain willy waving fans that we know but not me. It needs to be a completely fresh start with a completely new face who has worked at a level that can be transmitted to down to the players.
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Post by se7jw on Jan 24, 2024 0:21:53 GMT
Big questions need to be asked why things weren't left as they were on Saturday night. What was the point of him taking charge this evening? The board must have known that him being there was going to create a toxic atmosphere from the off and not one the players would have enjoyed playing in either. They could have just asked Jason Pearce to oversee footballing matters for this one game, it's 90 minutes FFS. CM and co. just cannot afford to get their next decision wrong. For certain individuals it might be their last. Appointling a former Charlton manager would be madness. Curbs has to be appointed higher up in an advisory role and Steve Brown needs to be involved on a day to day basis at Sparrows Lane. The players need a presence around the place and that was not Appleton. If the Americans really want to through money at it and make a huge statement then they should go for Steve Cooper followed by Nathan Jones or Michael Duff. Setting up a reunion with the likes of Chris Powell and Alex Dyer 12 years on might float the boat of certain willy waving fans that we know but not me. It needs to be a completely fresh start with a completely new face who has worked at a level that can be transmitted to down to the players. Steve Cooper is not going to come here in a million years & Jones was on a 1.5m contract at Southampton, don’t think he will be coming here either.
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Post by pardew123 on Jan 24, 2024 0:25:22 GMT
Jones might though
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Jan 24, 2024 0:26:57 GMT
Big questions need to be asked why things weren't left as they were on Saturday night. What was the point of him taking charge this evening? The board must have known that him being there was going to create a toxic atmosphere from the off and not one the players would have enjoyed playing in either. They could have just asked Jason Pearce to oversee footballing matters for this one game, it's 90 minutes FFS. CM and co. just cannot afford to get their next decision wrong. For certain individuals it might be their last. Appointling a former Charlton manager would be madness. Curbs has to be appointed higher up in an advisory role and Steve Brown needs to be involved on a day to day basis at Sparrows Lane. The players need a presence around the place and that was not Appleton. If the Americans really want to through money at it and make a huge statement then they should go for Steve Cooper followed by Nathan Jones or Michael Duff. Setting up a reunion with the likes of Chris Powell and Alex Dyer 12 years on might float the boat of certain willy waving fans that we know but not me. It needs to be a completely fresh start with a completely new face who has worked at a level that can be transmitted to down to the players. I think you mean Alex Dyer, not Nathan, but I agree with you. There’s an interesting video on Twitter tonight of Charlie Methven after the game, looking agitated. I think there’s little doubt that he, Rodwell and certainly Scott must be in the Last Chance Saloon with investors who must be becoming increasingly frustrated.
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Post by LoyalAddick on Jan 24, 2024 0:38:06 GMT
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 24, 2024 0:42:06 GMT
Big questions need to be asked why things weren't left as they were on Saturday night. What was the point of him taking charge this evening? The board must have known that him being there was going to create a toxic atmosphere from the off and not one the players would have enjoyed playing in either. They could have just asked Jason Pearce to oversee footballing matters for this one game, it's 90 minutes FFS. CM and co. just cannot afford to get their next decision wrong. For certain individuals it might be their last. Appointling a former Charlton manager would be madness. Curbs has to be appointed higher up in an advisory role and Steve Brown needs to be involved on a day to day basis at Sparrows Lane. The players need a presence around the place and that was not Appleton. If the Americans really want to through money at it and make a huge statement then they should go for Steve Cooper followed by Nathan Jones or Michael Duff. Setting up a reunion with the likes of Chris Powell and Alex Dyer 12 years on might float the boat of certain willy waving fans that we know but not me. It needs to be a completely fresh start with a completely new face who has worked at a level that can be transmitted to down to the players. Steve Cooper is not going to come here in a million years & Jones was on a 1.5m contract at Southampton, don’t think he will be coming here either. Nathan Jones is unemployed no matter what he earned at Southampton mate.
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Post by se7jw on Jan 24, 2024 0:47:43 GMT
Steve Cooper is not going to come here in a million years & Jones was on a 1.5m contract at Southampton, don’t think he will be coming here either. Nathan Jones is unemployed no matter what he earned at Southampton mate. Fair point but I think he’ll hold out for a Champ gig. He’s not desperate for the money either so I’d be shocked if he came here.
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Post by watameires on Jan 24, 2024 1:00:23 GMT
What was the point of him taking charge this evening? The board must have known that him being there was going to create a toxic atmosphere from the off and not one the players would have enjoyed playing in either. Big questiions need to be asked on that score. They could have just asked Jason Pearce to oversee footballing matters for this one game, it's 90 minutes FFS. CM and co. just cannot afford to get their next decision wrong. For certain individuals it might be their last. Appointling a former Charlton manager would be madness. Curbs has to be appointed higher up in an advisory role and Steve Brown needs to be involved on a day to day basis at Sparrows Lane. The players need a presence around the place and that was not Appleton. If the Americans really want to through money at it and make a huge statement then they should go for Steve Cooper followed by Nathan Jones or Michael Duff. Setting up a reunion with the likes of Chris Powell and Alex Dyer 12 years on might float the boat of certain willy waving fans that we know but not me. It needs to be a completely fresh start with a completely new face who has worked at a level that can be transmitted to down to the players. Steve Cooper? 😳 Absolutely no chance
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Post by pardew123 on Jan 24, 2024 1:01:26 GMT
He will get Palace job replacing Roy I reckon
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Post by watameires on Jan 24, 2024 1:02:55 GMT
We’re light years away from a Steve Cooper appointment
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Post by paulgdownunder on Jan 24, 2024 1:12:16 GMT
bit of a risky punt this one would be but i wanted to get peoples opinions on this one. not actually been a permanent manager yet at senior level but is certainly a good coach and knows the clubs and what it is about. how would people feel about giving jason euell a crack?? obviously the other more obvious names are higher on my list but could be a bit of a left field one. also feel he could fit the head coach role/setup aswell Absolutely not. Jason has just sighed with relief.,lol .But i agree, A manager that has a club connection like an ex player ,administrator,or long term supporter,/investor, might inject a bit of passion for the club, J J, Powell or Bows et al fits the bill.One whoes only job until the end of the season is to keep us up.Then onwards and upwards, next season. I have often said that succssful teams are built around a strong defence and GK .So Powell springs to mind, or a manager with defensive insticts.Not always exiting football but get this basic right,and add the mid field then attack. there after. I am surprised that MA never resorted to 'park the bus' defense, when the rot crept in.I am never one to always make the manager the scapegoat, but in retrospect, perhaps its better that he has gone Like a broken record, Watch a team like Melboune Victory, top of the Oz A League, under TONY POPOVICH ex Palarse.CB . When they lose the ball, the defence falls back and packs the goal,Frustrating the opposition's attack Then breaking out using fast wingers or a long diagonal ball Executed with precision, accuracy and bought under cotrol, likewise. Have we these type of players? As a footnote I hope we get a defense minded manager Who concentrates on results first. Pretty football to follow. With some connection and passion for the club. Preferably with a Sarf London accent. But not essential
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Post by watameires on Jan 24, 2024 1:16:44 GMT
The new chap needs to be able to organise and shut up shop first and foremost
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Post by redrobbo on Jan 24, 2024 2:32:04 GMT
My worry is that Curtis Clement gets the gig. Apparently not Apples choice but an appointment to “help” him with decisions.
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Post by DFT on Jan 24, 2024 3:01:07 GMT
Gary Rowett, although he is ex scum, he did play for us so he'll know a bit about the club.
He nearly got the scum into the play-offs last year.
I wouldn't mind Gary Rowett
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Post by DFT on Jan 24, 2024 3:03:06 GMT
John Eustace would be my choice. Worked well at Kidderminster as well as Birmingham in his short time so can work in lower leagues and in the Championship if we get promoted there. Let him have a lot more say too, i.e. do things his way not force him to do things Scott's way.. Gary Rowatt for me. Yep Gary Rowett for me too
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Jan 24, 2024 5:10:06 GMT
It sounds as if Nigel Pearson is in the frame.
Personally I’d prefer a younger, up and coming coach.
Birmingham fans certainly regretted letting John Eustace go.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2024 5:17:31 GMT
What was the point of him taking charge this evening? The board must have known that him being there was going to create a toxic atmosphere from the off and not one the players would have enjoyed playing in either. Big questiions need to be asked on that score. They could have just asked Jason Pearce to oversee footballing matters for this one game, it's 90 minutes FFS. CM and co. just cannot afford to get their next decision wrong. For certain individuals it might be their last. Appointling a former Charlton manager would be madness. Curbs has to be appointed higher up in an advisory role and Steve Brown needs to be involved on a day to day basis at Sparrows Lane. The players need a presence around the place and that was not Appleton. If the Americans really want to through money at it and make a huge statement then they should go for Steve Cooper followed by Nathan Jones or Michael Duff. Setting up a reunion with the likes of Chris Powell and Alex Dyer 12 years on might float the boat of certain willy waving fans that we know but not me. It needs to be a completely fresh start with a completely new face who has worked at a level that can be transmitted to down to the players. Think you'll find Coopers going Palace.
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Post by sittingbourne11 on Jan 24, 2024 6:40:38 GMT
Please, not Nigel Pearson another has been.
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Post by joeblack on Jan 24, 2024 6:49:38 GMT
Don’t want Jones. Disaster at his last 2 jobs. He didn't do to bad with luton plus he knows the club from his time working here with the U21s I don't really get this 'know's the club' thing. He was here well over a decade ago. So he knows the Valley, Sparrows Lane and a red/white kit. I'm struggling to see much of an advantage beyond that, though if he rocks up, he'll probably be suprised at how the crowds have shrunk.
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