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Post by watameires on Jan 23, 2024 11:45:56 GMT
Reams. You’re full of shit. Because he got this one wrong and got everyone’s hopes up unnecessarily? You’re out of order |
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Post by scabbyhorse on Jan 23, 2024 11:56:11 GMT
Curbishley knew what he was doing though. You saying Lawrence didn’t …. Ridiculous Where the hell did I say Lawrence didn't? |
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Post by RedHood on Jan 23, 2024 11:59:51 GMT
Will this be his last game no matter what happens ? Something very strange going on with all this no doubt about it and its all a bit embarrassing tbh, but that's Charlton been a proper basket case of a club for years now unfortunately. Total guess work you don’t know what the club are doing .. And neither do you, despite your persistent claims otherwise. |
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Post by AndyB on Jan 23, 2024 12:04:43 GMT
Reams. You’re full of shit. cock alert |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 23, 2024 12:10:40 GMT
Thing's have gone very quiet. There are bits and pieces I am aware of which point to Appleton's contract being the stumbling block as to why his dismissal was not finalised.
He would have been told last September when he arrived that as the board never had a full summer window, the plan was to improve the squad in January and further strengthened the following summer. This would mean key changes happening at a stage of the season that is not the norm and had one eye on what that might mean for him. Perhaps he felt it would take time for new players to bed in and he wanted it written into his contract that judgment wouldn't be made on him until a certain period of time or even after so many games. If it was and he had that clause, was he sacked prematurely before the tipping point leaving the board to have to reverse their decision? I may be wrong on the finer details but I believe it is something along those lines why he is still at the club.
He didn't take training yesterday because there was a meeting going on which he had to be in for ovbious reasons. I don't know the in's and out's but having sacked two manager's inside five months points it would be wise for the Americans to find out why and carry out their own internal investigation to identify the route cause. I'm sure that when they came on board the last thing they expected was to have to fund two sets of compensation so soon after.
Appleton will be gone. That is a given. Only question now is who goes with him.
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Jan 23, 2024 12:14:45 GMT
Will this be his last game no matter what happens ? Something very strange going on with all this no doubt about it and its all a bit embarrassing tbh, but that's Charlton been a proper basket case of a club for years now unfortunately. Total guess work you don’t know what the club are doing .. ….Coming from a grown adult who spends every day moving between two Charlton forums & Twitter, embellishing & making up stories about the club. |
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Post by scabbyhorse on Jan 23, 2024 12:16:20 GMT
Total guess work you don’t know what the club are doing .. And neither do you, despite your persistent claims otherwise. It's termed "Toxic Positivity, making him unapproachable and challenging to relate to. Basically Bexley has a Charlton Athletic personality disorder. |
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Jan 23, 2024 12:18:49 GMT
Thing's have gone very quiet. There are bits and pieces I am aware of which point to Appleton's contract being the stumbling block as to why his dismissal was not finalised. He would have been told last September when he arrived that the plan was to improve the squad in January and further strengthened in the summer. This would mean key changes happening at a stage of the season that is not the norm and he had one eye on what that might mean for him. Perhaps he felt it would take time for new players to bed in and he wanted it written into his contract that judgment wouldn't be made on him until a certain period of time or even after so many games. If it was and he had that clause, was sacked prematurely before the tipping point leaving the board to have to reverse their decision? I may be wrong on the finer details but I believe it is something along those lines why he is still at the club. He didn't take training yesterday because there was a meeting going on which he had to be in for ovbious reasons. I don't know the in's and out's but having sacked two manager's inside five months points it would be wise for the Americans to find out why and carry out their own internal investigation to identify the route cause. I'm sure that when they came on board the last thing they expected was to have to fund two sets of compensation so soon after. Appleton will be gone. That is a given. Only question now is who goes with him. It was noticeable that twice in his laughable Press Conference yesterday Appleton said that he knew that he had to get results “very, very quickly”. An odd way of putting it 🤔 That suggests to me that if nothing else, he knows that he’s gone if we don’t win tonight. Please God, don’t let us win 🙏 |
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Post by Mundell on Jan 23, 2024 12:19:46 GMT
Lots of speculation both here and elsewhere about WTF has gone on here. I have no intel to share, but I have just one point to make. Whatever decision was or wasn’t made, the information that Michael Appleton was being removed from post was “briefed” by someone or somebodies and then released into the public domain before Appleton had been spoken to.
In my book that’s unforgivable. There is simply no excuse for it. It’s either professionally completely incompetent or carelessly vindictive.
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Post by clarky on Jan 23, 2024 12:20:07 GMT
Will this be his last game no matter what happens ? Something very strange going on with all this no doubt about it and its all a bit embarrassing tbh, but that's Charlton been a proper basket case of a club for years now unfortunately. Total guess work you don’t know what the club are doing .. To quote mrcharlton "You're full of shit" |
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Post by essexaddick on Jan 23, 2024 12:20:08 GMT
Curbishley knew what he was doing though. You saying Lawrence didn’t …. Ridiculous That's not what he was saying at all |
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Jan 23, 2024 12:26:28 GMT
Lots of speculation both here and elsewhere about WTF has gone on here. I have no intel to share, but I have just one point to make. Whatever decision was or wasn’t made, the information that Michael Appleton was being removed from post was “briefed” by someone or somebodies and then released into the public domain before Appleton had been spoken to. In my book that’s unforgivable. There is simply no excuse for it. It’s either professionally completely incompetent or carelessly vindictive. With respect, it doesn’t matter. Appleton is destroying the club with his incompetence. A club our size should not see its League One (!) season over in early January. He should never have got the job in the first place, but however he is removed ….needs must. |
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Post by Mundell on Jan 23, 2024 12:30:48 GMT
Lots of speculation both here and elsewhere about WTF has gone on here. I have no intel to share, but I have just one point to make. Whatever decision was or wasn’t made, the information that Michael Appleton was being removed from post was “briefed” by someone or somebodies and then released into the public domain before Appleton had been spoken to. In my book that’s unforgivable. There is simply no excuse for it. It’s either professionally completely incompetent or carelessly vindictive. With respect, it doesn’t matter. Appleton is destroying the club with his incompetence. A club our size should not see its League One (!) season over in early January. He should never have got the job in the first place, but however he is removed ….needs must. With respect it does. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 23, 2024 12:34:45 GMT
Lots of speculation both here and elsewhere about WTF has gone on here. I have no intel to share, but I have just one point to make. Whatever decision was or wasn’t made, the information that Michael Appleton was being removed from post was “briefed” by someone or somebodies and then released into the public domain before Appleton had been spoken to. In my book that’s unforgivable. There is simply no excuse for it. It’s either professionally completely incompetent or carelessly vindictive. Sorry Chris that isn't what happened at all. |
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Post by Mundell on Jan 23, 2024 12:42:45 GMT
Lots of speculation both here and elsewhere about WTF has gone on here. I have no intel to share, but I have just one point to make. Whatever decision was or wasn’t made, the information that Michael Appleton was being removed from post was “briefed” by someone or somebodies and then released into the public domain before Appleton had been spoken to. In my book that’s unforgivable. There is simply no excuse for it. It’s either professionally completely incompetent or carelessly vindictive. Sorry Chris that isn't what happened at all. Are you telling me that Appleton lied through his teeth during the press conference on Monday morning? I find that hard to believe. PS To be clear, I have no doubt that what you did was in good faith. Whoever told you almost certainly acted in good faith too. However, somewhere higher up the food chain it seems that information was released before Michael Appleton was told. I can’t see how that can be acceptable in any organisation. |
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Post by hongkongaddick on Jan 23, 2024 12:44:29 GMT
Lots of speculation both here and elsewhere about WTF has gone on here. I have no intel to share, but I have just one point to make. Whatever decision was or wasn’t made, the information that Michael Appleton was being removed from post was “briefed” by someone or somebodies and then released into the public domain before Appleton had been spoken to. In my book that’s unforgivable. There is simply no excuse for it. It’s either professionally completely incompetent or carelessly vindictive. Sorry Chris that isn't what happened at all. Whatever is going on, it’s gripping stuff. GOTR Series 8 (or whatever is next). Thanks for keeping us briefed, Reams. Irrespective of what hasn’t yet happened, I’m confident that you have an inside, even if it’s not the inside, track on this. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Jan 23, 2024 12:48:13 GMT
Sorry Chris that isn't what happened at all. Whatever is going on, it’s gripping stuff. GOTR Series 8 (or whatever is next). Thanks for keeping us briefed, Reams. Irrespective of what hasn’t yet happened, I’m confident that you have an inside, even if it’s not the inside, track on this. The SMT need to get Netflix involved. Huge commerical potential. Just when you think it's settled down, we have a new owner or manager! |
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Post by jonkool on Jan 23, 2024 12:50:39 GMT
Lots of speculation both here and elsewhere about WTF has gone on here. I have no intel to share, but I have just one point to make. Whatever decision was or wasn’t made, the information that Michael Appleton was being removed from post was “briefed” by someone or somebodies and then released into the public domain before Appleton had been spoken to. In my book that’s unforgivable. There is simply no excuse for it. It’s either professionally completely incompetent or carelessly vindictive. The situation is unclear but to my mind doesn’t reflect well on the SMT in any shape or form. They sold the concept of professional management of the business to the owners and question marks are potentially already arising. More than the head coach maybe exiting stage right Since Curbs left the building we appear to lurch from one piece of dysfunction to another 🤨 |
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Post by valleyvon on Jan 23, 2024 12:51:54 GMT
With everything that is going on at the moment, is it having an effect on any remaining, potential transfers that they may hoped will happen before the transfer window closes?
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Post by brad on Jan 23, 2024 13:04:19 GMT
Thing's have gone very quiet. There are bits and pieces I am aware of which point to Appleton's contract being the stumbling block as to why his dismissal was not finalised. He would have been told last September when he arrived that as the board never had a full summer window, the plan was to improve the squad in January and further strengthened the following summer. This would mean key changes happening at a stage of the season that is not the norm and he had one eye on what that might mean for him. Perhaps he felt it would take time for new players to bed in and he wanted it written into his contract that judgment wouldn't be made on him until a certain period of time or even after so many games. If it was and he had that clause, was he sacked prematurely before the tipping point leaving the board to have to reverse their decision? I may be wrong on the finer details but I believe it is something along those lines why he is still at the club. He didn't take training yesterday because there was a meeting going on which he had to be in for ovbious reasons. I don't know the in's and out's but having sacked two manager's inside five months points it would be wise for the Americans to find out why and carry out their own internal investigation to identify the route cause. I'm sure that when they came on board the last thing they expected was to have to fund two sets of compensation so soon after. Appleton will be gone. That is a given. Only question now is who goes with him. Very good post and A lot of this is on Andy Scott his great signings last January and Even better in the Summer including Tedic to spear our attach. Get rid of Apples and take Scott with you. I am telling you Scott is the wrong guy for our club. People from other other clubs where he has been have said the same. Any new signings are not signing because Andy Scott is this great name in the game, it's because the club is willing to pay the fee other clubs want and pay the wages the players want. |
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Post by anthony55 on Jan 23, 2024 13:05:41 GMT
I believe our American owners are more professional than previous owners.
Roland thought a young female Belgium lawyer could run the club.
Guitar boy thought his girlfriend and his son could run the club.
At least the Americans have tried to put together a senior management team to do the job.
Unfortunately I think Andy Scott and Rodwell come across pretty well when they talk, but that is because they are well educated and used to public talking.
But in my opinion they come across as being incompetent.
I would like our new owners to replace both of them as well as Appleton and put together a senior management team that can walk the walk, not just talk the talk.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 23, 2024 13:05:43 GMT
Reams. You’re full of shit. Because he got this one wrong and got everyone’s hopes up unnecessarily? You’re out of order Thanks for the support watameire but I standby everthing I have said. The information was only wrong because of a retraction. Whatever his position is now, he was dismissed, irrespective of what came after. I appreciate the fact that him being in the dug out tonight suggests otherwise but it will be short lived. |
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Post by se7sm on Jan 23, 2024 13:30:55 GMT
Because he got this one wrong and got everyone’s hopes up unnecessarily? You’re out of order Thanks for the support watameire but I standby everthing I have said. The information was only wrong because of a retraction. Whatever his position is now, he was dismissed, irrespective of what came after. I appreciate the fact that him being in the dug out tonight suggests othrwise but it will be short lived. it’s a fans forum of opinions ,not the 10 o’clock news take no notice of the prick. |
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Post by lewisham on Jan 23, 2024 13:50:40 GMT
Tonight should be fun, can see more happening off the pitch than on it!
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 23, 2024 13:52:43 GMT
Thanks for the support watameire but I standby everthing I have said. The information was only wrong because of a retraction. Whatever his position is now, he was dismissed, irrespective of what came after. I appreciate the fact that him being in the dug out tonight suggests othrwise but it will be short lived. it’s a fans forum of opinions ,not the 10 o’clock news take no notice of the prick. I don't mate but as Michael Appleton would say, if I asked him to say it to my face it would be a different scenario. 😆😆😆 |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 23, 2024 13:53:02 GMT
The board are fully aware of what is out in the public domain.
Why have they not acted quickly to either quash rumours and/or give Appleton a vote of confidence?
I think they haven't said a word because claiming that eveeything is A-Ok would just be misleading transfer targets.
Speaks volumes.
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Post by seriouslyred on Jan 23, 2024 14:08:01 GMT
The board are fully aware of what is out in the public domain. Why have they not acted quickly to either quash rumours and/or give Appleton a vote of confidence? Speaks volumes. Wondered that myself but at this stage perhaps they prefer the players to do the talking on the pitch? That appears far simpler than tying oneself up in knots with more votes of confidence. We all want a win, and we all know that Appleton has yet to improve things even though we've just signed six decent players. Having said that, we won five and drew five of our first 12 League games under Appleton. For me, as ever, it's all about our midfield and how we both create chances as well as negating the other team. If our midfield improves in terms of technical skill, passing and decision making then we end up with the ball in their box. And xG should rise above 1 once again. Bedding in our new defenders should ideally lead to less catastrophic errors. Looking forward to how things pan out. |
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Post by watameires on Jan 23, 2024 14:09:10 GMT
The board are fully aware of what is out in the public domain. Why have they not acted quickly to either quash rumours and/or give Appleton a vote of confidence? Speaks volumes. They need to pull their fingers out. The good will bought by the dealings in the window will be/have been lost |
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Post by kings hill addick on Jan 23, 2024 14:18:03 GMT
The board are fully aware of what is out in the public domain. Why have they not acted quickly to either quash rumours and/or give Appleton a vote of confidence? Speaks volumes. My take on that is more like they can't get into denying anything that gets floated on a message board. If the Directors of any company came out and denied, or confirmed, any social media rumours they would soon find that they were doing it all day long or the rumours would be believed because the business didn't deny them. I, actually, think that is the more professional approach. Louis Mendez released a statement on Sunday that confirmed the club had told him that Appleton hadn't been sacked. Monday Appleton gave a press conference and confirmed that he hadn't been sacked. We should all accept that as the truth unless we are told otherwise. If not, the club will end up having to deny his sacking every time a rumour gets started. I appreciate that you believe what you were told, Reams, and I'm sure that Dubai on CL does also, and that the people who told you are credible. However, the normal direction of travel would end up with twelve year olds starting rumours and Senior Directors having to come out and deny it. Sooner or later they would be releasing denials all day long. The professional approach is to ignore social media rumours and never comment on them. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 23, 2024 14:55:27 GMT
The board are fully aware of what is out in the public domain. Why have they not acted quickly to either quash rumours and/or give Appleton a vote of confidence? Speaks volumes. My take on that is more like they can't get into denying anything that gets floated on a message board. If the Directors of any company came out and denied, or confirmed, any social media rumours they would soon find that they were doing it all day long or the rumours would be believed because the business didn't deny them. I, actually, think that is the more professional approach. Louis Mendez released a statement on Sunday that confirmed the club had told him that Appleton hadn't been sacked. Monday Appleton gave a press conference and confirmed that he hadn't been sacked. We should all accept that as the truth unless we are told otherwise. If not, the club will end up having to deny his sacking every time a rumour gets started. I appreciate that you believe what you were told, Reams, and I'm sure that Dubai on CL does also, and that the people who told you are credible. However, the normal direction of travel would end up with twelve year olds starting rumours and Senior Directors having to come out and deny it. Sooner or later they would be releasing denials all day long. The professional approach is to ignore social media rumours and never comment on them. The info I received didn't originate from social media rumours though mate. If it had, I would have treated it as such. |
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