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Post by scabbyhorse on Jan 22, 2024 18:30:21 GMT
It's concerning that SMT (Scott) appeared slow in player recruitment, but it's positive that they are addressing it. However, the delay in parting ways with Appleton, despite it being evident to most that he he will not lead the team forward on the playing side, raises additional concerns.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 22, 2024 18:48:13 GMT
Something clearly isn't right here. Why was this done by zoom for a start? This was going to be a mutual agreement departure but I suspect he doesn't like the figures and has changed his mind and said, if you want me out, sack me. That way the chances are he comes out of it financially better off. He speaks to Andy Scott every week he said. That's the fucking problem! Two peas in a pod with fuck all football nous between them. He will be gone of that I am sure. I don't know who you know or what you actually know, OK Appleton is not doing well but your continued hounding of him is a little distasteful What a silly post. You mean you have come off CL for five minutes and logged on here just to tell me that? Can't see you preaching the same message over there and they are venting far more than I am. I am not hounding anybody. Appleton is taking the club head first into L2 nad if I want to dig him out on that, I will. I have stuck my neck out on here posting thinks that I'm not really supposed to share but there are certain lines that you don't cross. What I mean by that is I know the truth why he's still in a job as does Michael Appleton. |
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Post by swanleyaddick on Jan 22, 2024 18:59:12 GMT
And that truth still gives you the feels he is a goner Reams?
Regardless now of tomorrow's result and going forward, surely his position is untenable?
With Appleton still in charge, the board are breaking down relations they are trying to build with the clubs fanbase.
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Post by redrobin on Jan 22, 2024 19:02:36 GMT
And that truth still gives you the feels he is a goner Reams? Regardless now of tomorrow's result and going forward, surely his position is untenable? With Appleton still in charge, the board are breaking down relations they are trying to build with the clubs fanbase. That went for me the minute they sacked Dean Holden without giving him a chance. |
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Post by cafcph on Jan 22, 2024 19:02:46 GMT
Wouldn’t be surprised if that press conference gets him fired.
Hardly trying to build any bridges, which along with an amazing run of results, he desperately needs.
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Jan 22, 2024 19:04:29 GMT
Something clearly isn't right here. Why was this done by zoom for a start? This was going to be a mutual agreement departure but I suspect he doesn't like the figures and has changed his mind and said, if you want me out, sack me. That way the chances are he comes out of it financially better off. He speaks to Andy Scott every week he said. That's the fucking problem! Two peas in a pod with fuck all football nous between them. He will be gone of that I am sure. I don't know who you know or what you actually know, OK Appleton is not doing well but your continued hounding of him is a little distasteful You’ve got form for this sort of rubbish on Charlton Life. Post it on here by all means, but don’t expect it to go unchallenged like it is over there. |
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Post by wiggyatthebackpost on Jan 22, 2024 19:06:44 GMT
Wonder if they haven't sacked him yet because they are trying to thrash out a deal for Duff .So he can take charge Wednesday morning.
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Post by cafcph on Jan 22, 2024 19:23:53 GMT
Wonder if they haven't sacked him yet because they are trying to thrash out a deal for Duff .So he can take charge Wednesday morning. Eustace would be my choice if they can convince him. |
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Post by revilo on Jan 22, 2024 19:24:40 GMT
I've got nothing personal against Crappleton but he isn't very personable and doesn't seem like he cares about the fans, it's just a job to him. That's my perception after watching the press conference.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 22, 2024 19:25:41 GMT
And that truth still gives you the feels he is a goner Reams? Regardless now of tomorrow's result and going forward, surely his position is untenable? With Appleton still in charge, the board are breaking down relations they are trying to build with the clubs fanbase. I agree. Last week everything was coming along swimingly. New players joining with more to follow. I was told that Appleton needed a result at Burton to save his job. We lost and I was told he was sacked later that night. I expected to wake up to confirmation of the news on Sunday but as the day dragged on it never came. The original source was not the regular provider of information but come Sunday evening those that are were confirming it. It went as far as two names being immediately installed as being high up on our wanted list. Today just feels like a blur, something has gone on. A glitch has cropped up in the legals, it must have, the decision had been made and there was no going back yet we we are 7.20pm on the eve of our next game and he's still here. I'm just surmising now but maybe the American owners have said to the board, it's either money for new players or compensation for another outgoing manager. Take your pick because you ain't getting both! |
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Post by pardew123 on Jan 22, 2024 19:28:46 GMT
If that be the case then surely you sack him and leave squad as is and then strengthen and have a real go in summer or we will be in 4th tier with Apples.
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Post by bexleyboy on Jan 22, 2024 19:30:02 GMT
Whatever you think of Appleton , the club (SMT) has handled this appallingly. We live in an age of 24/7 social media now - it’s not the 1980s where the fanbase relied on Peter Burrows and Charlton Clubcall. No doubt you will still get some saying the club cannot rebut every rumour but something as serious as this - getting national coverage on social media now - you really need a heavyweight figure at the club (Peter Varney back in the old days) to come out with a statement of either confidence in the manager, or denial. It’s so typical of this amateurish group on the SMT (Rodwell & Scott) that they have botched it. Im not criticising the investors BTW, but surely they will soon realise that all of their good work in actually investing is being over shadowed by Laurel & Hardy in the SMT. You don’t know that .. the club actually just went along there normal day did not do anything wrong all the hype and talk was through social media ….. but trust you to take any opportunity to blame the owners |
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Jan 22, 2024 19:33:00 GMT
bexleyboyOne day, a thesis will be written on your supernatural ability not to understand every topic posted on Charlton forums.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 22, 2024 19:35:45 GMT
Whatever you think of Appleton , the club (SMT) has handled this appallingly. We live in an age of 24/7 social media now - it’s not the 1980s where the fanbase relied on Peter Burrows and Charlton Clubcall. No doubt you will still get some saying the club cannot rebut every rumour but something as serious as this - getting national coverage on social media now - you really need a heavyweight figure at the club (Peter Varney back in the old days) to come out with a statement of either confidence in the manager, or denial. It’s so typical of this amateurish group on the SMT (Rodwell & Scott) that they have botched it. Im not criticising the investors BTW, but surely they will soon realise that all of their good work in actually investing is being over shadowed by Laurel & Hardy in the SMT. You don’t know that .. the club actually just went along there normal day did not do anything wrong all the hype and talk was through social media ….. but trust you to take any opportunity to blame the owners It wasn't social media where I got my info from I can assure you and when it arrived it couldn't have been more formal. |
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Post by scabbyhorse on Jan 22, 2024 19:39:52 GMT
Whatever you think of Appleton , the club (SMT) has handled this appallingly. We live in an age of 24/7 social media now - it’s not the 1980s where the fanbase relied on Peter Burrows and Charlton Clubcall. No doubt you will still get some saying the club cannot rebut every rumour but something as serious as this - getting national coverage on social media now - you really need a heavyweight figure at the club (Peter Varney back in the old days) to come out with a statement of either confidence in the manager, or denial. It’s so typical of this amateurish group on the SMT (Rodwell & Scott) that they have botched it. Im not criticising the investors BTW, but surely they will soon realise that all of their good work in actually investing is being over shadowed by Laurel & Hardy in the SMT. You don’t know that .. the club actually just went along there normal day did not do anything wrong all the hype and talk was through social media ….. but trust you to take any opportunity to blame the owners Perhaps the Americans and SMT believe that bringing in another attacking midfielder, along with the recently arrived players, would be sufficient to avoid relegation, even with Appleton in charge. However, I would caution them that no team is too good to go down. If we were to retain our League 1 status, do they honestly believe our manager is capable of securing automatic promotion next season? Given the circumstances, it seems that only a top-two finish would realistically be sufficient, as playoffs might not be satisfactory in my opinion, considering the goal being is get to the premiership eventually. |
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Post by norfolkrobin on Jan 22, 2024 19:45:15 GMT
REALLY bizarre day.
We NEED points desperately and this strange sideshow of a MA digging his heels in won't help in the slightest.
Besides the pressing matters of trying to get 3 valuable points,our search for a potential successor is stopped in it's tracks?
Really can't call what sort of atmosphere will great the players this time tomorrow? I'm hoping some of the anger can be harnessed and the boys can get a win.
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Post by swanleyaddick on Jan 22, 2024 19:52:07 GMT
And that truth still gives you the feels he is a goner Reams? Regardless now of tomorrow's result and going forward, surely his position is untenable? With Appleton still in charge, the board are breaking down relations they are trying to build with the clubs fanbase. I agree. Last week everything was coming along swimingly. New players joining with more to follow. I was told that Appleton needed a result at Burton to save his job. We lost and I was told he was sacked later that night. I expected to wake up to confirmation of the news on Sunday but as the day dragged on it never came. The original source was not the regular provider of information but come Sunday evening those that are were confirming it. It went as far as two names being immediately installed as being high up on our wanted list. Today just feels like a blur, something has gone on. A glitch has cropped up in the legals, it must have, the decision had been made and there was no going back yet we we are 7.20pm on the eve of our next game and he's still here. I'm just surmising now but maybe the American owners have said to the board, it's either money for new players or compensation for another outgoing manager. Take your pick because you ain't getting both! Joke is that if your on point with what you surmise then those in those positions of power and influence, most likely being the UK SMT, need to really think does another player help and keep MA or does playing players in their positions but sacking MA give us better chance. I'd put a bet on one of those, and it isn't the adding of players. |
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Post by revilo on Jan 22, 2024 19:52:36 GMT
I wonder what the players make of all this
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Post by kings hill addick on Jan 22, 2024 19:55:35 GMT
I agree. Last week everything was coming along swimingly. New players joining with more to follow. I was told that Appleton needed a result at Burton to save his job. We lost and I was told he was sacked later that night. I expected to wake up to confirmation of the news on Sunday but as the day dragged on it never came. The original source was not the regular provider of information but come Sunday evening those that are were confirming it. It went as far as two names being immediately installed as being high up on our wanted list. Today just feels like a blur, something has gone on. A glitch has cropped up in the legals, it must have, the decision had been made and there was no going back yet we we are 7.20pm on the eve of our next game and he's still here. I'm just surmising now but maybe the American owners have said to the board, it's either money for new players or compensation for another outgoing manager. Take your pick because you ain't getting both! Joke is that if your on point with what you surmise then those in those positions of power and influence, most likely being the UK SMT, need to really think does another player help and keep MA or does playing players in their positions but sacking MA give us better chance. I'd put a bet on one of those, and it isn't the adding of players. There might be a kind of release clause in the summer that saves us some money so it makes sense to allow him to hang around until then and we use what we would have had to pay him on a player that we will still have for next season when we have a new manager. |
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Post by Tom1982 on Jan 22, 2024 19:59:09 GMT
I wonder what the players make of all this Soon see tomorrow I suppose. If it ends 5-0 to CAFC that’s an answer in its self. |
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Jan 22, 2024 20:12:45 GMT
I wonder what the players make of all this Soon see tomorrow I suppose. If it ends 5-0 to CAFC that’s an answer in its self. The turnstile count tomorrow night will be 6000-7000. I for one won’t be going . Appleton & Scott can stick it up their arses. Blindly supporting incompetent losers who couldn’t care less, or attending just to complete Five Bar gates on my clipboard, has never been my thing. Even allowing for the patsy questions that they get bowled, neither Appleton or Scott have ever come up with an intelligent explanation of precisely why they think results and performances are so bad under them. All you get are trite cliches. Try telling the same Lee Bowyer who ran down the touchline at Wembley after we scored, that managers showing emotion on the touchline are acting. |
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Post by Tom1982 on Jan 22, 2024 20:17:35 GMT
Soon see tomorrow I suppose. If it ends 5-0 to CAFC that’s an answer in its self. The turnstile count tomorrow night will be 6000-7000. I for one won’t be going . Appleton & Scott can stick it up their arses. Blindly supporting incompetent losers who couldn’t care less, or attending just to complete Five Bar gates on my clipboard, has never been my thing. Even allowing for the patsy questions that they get bowled, neither Appleton or Scott have ever come up with an intelligent explanation of precisely why they think results and performances are so bad under them. All you get are trite cliches. Try telling the same Lee Bowyer who ran down the touchline at Wembley after we scored, that managers showing emotion on the touchline are acting. Must admit I’m never going to want to see CAFC lose but this is as close as it’ll get to that for me. |
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Post by watameires on Jan 22, 2024 20:39:33 GMT
I’ll be there cheering the lads (interested in seeing the new ones) but expect also to be vocal against Appleton
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Post by seriouslyred on Jan 22, 2024 20:47:17 GMT
Soon see tomorrow I suppose. If it ends 5-0 to CAFC that’s an answer in its self. The turnstile count tomorrow night will be 6000-7000. I for one won’t be going . Appleton & Scott can stick it up their arses. Blindly supporting incompetent losers who couldn’t care less, or attending just to complete Five Bar gates on my clipboard, has never been my thing. Even allowing for the patsy questions that they get bowled, neither Appleton or Scott have ever come up with an intelligent explanation of precisely why they think results and performances are so bad under them. All you get are trite cliches. Try telling the same Lee Bowyer who ran down the touchline at Wembley after we scored, that managers showing emotion on the touchline are acting. The club desperately needs a win and the associated three points to stop the slide. Whatever the result this could be one of the most significant games of the season. Many of us will be there cheering on the lads, watching the game develop... seeing if we can actually rebuild our attacking threat against one of the weaker teams in the division. Obviously up to fans whether they go or not, but surprised that somebody so vocal about all things Charlton has decided not to bother. |
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Post by cafcginge on Jan 22, 2024 20:56:22 GMT
look some fans are going to laugh at this opinion and will think i’m a joke but it’s purely just my opinion. i thunk garner shouldn’t of been sacked and would be a good fit in this side tbh. in my opinion he had us playing some of the most attractive football since bowyer and he wasn’t backed properly. i agree with not just sacking managers and giving them time and i think garner was the biggest victim of that. given time and backing he could of done something i think.
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Post by melrose555 on Jan 22, 2024 21:13:54 GMT
And that truth still gives you the feels he is a goner Reams? Regardless now of tomorrow's result and going forward, surely his position is untenable? With Appleton still in charge, the board are breaking down relations they are trying to build with the clubs fanbase. I agree. Last week everything was coming along swimingly. New players joining with more to follow. I was told that Appleton needed a result at Burton to save his job. We lost and I was told he was sacked later that night. I expected to wake up to confirmation of the news on Sunday but as the day dragged on it never came. The original source was not the regular provider of information but come Sunday evening those that are were confirming it. It went as far as two names being immediately installed as being high up on our wanted list. Today just feels like a blur, something has gone on. A glitch has cropped up in the legals, it must have, the decision had been made and there was no going back yet we we are 7.20pm on the eve of our next game and he's still here. I'm just surmising now but maybe the American owners have said to the board, it's either money for new players or compensation for another outgoing manager. Take your pick because you ain't getting both! Surely the SMT knew that if Appleton was to be sacked then his contract would have needed to be paid up. They must have checked that this was going to be sanctioned by the money men. If what you're summising is right Reams, then the owners are taking a massive gamble that Appleton wont take us down. Relegation would be a catastrophic disaster for them and the club. What an absolute fucking shambles I will be going tomorrow night and will be calling for Appleton's head even if we win comfortably. |
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Post by watameires on Jan 22, 2024 21:41:51 GMT
look some fans are going to laugh at this opinion and will think i’m a joke but it’s purely just my opinion. i thunk garner shouldn’t of been sacked and would be a good fit in this side tbh. in my opinion he had us playing some of the most attractive football since bowyer and he wasn’t backed properly. i agree with not just sacking managers and giving them time and i think garner was the biggest victim of that. given time and backing he could of done something i think. I feel the same about Adkins |
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Post by herewegoagain on Jan 22, 2024 21:46:22 GMT
What a complete and utter shambles this club is. Appleton needs to go no question about that, It will only become more toxic the longer he stays. However, in my opinion the biggest issue at our club is Scott, he has got us into this mess and is too pig headed to admit mistakes and sort it out once and for all. For me there is no smoke without fire when it comes to the Appleton being sacked rumours, I don’t believe this has been made up or anything or the sort. What we have seen is total incompetence from the club and that again falls on Scott. I long for the days where we are just a normal club, quietly going about our business and significantly improving both on and off the pitch.
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Post by se7sm on Jan 22, 2024 21:46:43 GMT
look some fans are going to laugh at this opinion and will think i’m a joke but it’s purely just my opinion. i thunk garner shouldn’t of been sacked and would be a good fit in this side tbh. in my opinion he had us playing some of the most attractive football since bowyer and he wasn’t backed properly. i agree with not just sacking managers and giving them time and i think garner was the biggest victim of that. given time and backing he could of done something i think. 5 wins in 20 give you better than 🍏but really 🤦 afraid we watched so much shit over the years we’ve becoming immune to it |
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Post by whynot on Jan 23, 2024 3:13:28 GMT
Correct me if I am wrong Appleton is just a head coach or something like that but the the actual manager. Could we not just make Duff manager, and Keep him around as waterboy until the summer or something more along the lines of his skill set say a new stone statue by the dugouts.
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