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Post by norfolkrobin on May 15, 2022 17:59:58 GMT
So let's put a different slant on it. Let's just say Matt Taylor comes in and having managed and brought through some excellent Exeter City youngsters these past couple of years, one of the first things he does is ask the 'owner' if he can bring two or three of them with him as he feels we need them in certain areas. Is Tommy going to tell him that he'll have to ask his son to check them out on his little black box first!!? Could be what's going on? In the respect Taylor might want some names added to list of targets? TS/MS/SG found a man that has some experience,works to a sensible budget and accepts part of his remit is to improve and ultimately sell on talent,that seems to meet TS plans so hopefully an agreement can be reached ASAP. If TS botches this,and we end up with another who's been round the block and hasn't worked within the framework he's aspiring to,then he's asking for trouble IMHO. |
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Post by jonkool on May 15, 2022 20:38:47 GMT
So let's put a different slant on it. Let's just say Matt Taylor comes in and having managed and brought through some excellent Exeter City youngsters these past couple of years, one of the first things he does is ask the 'owner' if he can bring two or three of them with him as he feels we need them in certain areas. Is Tommy going to tell him that he'll have to ask his son to check them out on his little black box first!!? The chances are he will as he will not wish to be seen as undermining his sprog 🤔 |
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Post by 1978sussex on May 16, 2022 5:50:46 GMT
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Post by 1978sussex on May 16, 2022 5:51:43 GMT
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Post by revilo on May 16, 2022 5:58:21 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2022 6:14:04 GMT
It’s deja vu all over again.
Sheff Wed have beaten Ipswich Town to the signing of Plymouth striker Panutche Camara. (EFL Hub)
This guy received very positive reviews on ITTV when we played Plymouth, and is precisely the quality of player that we need to be quick in signing.
Once again, you have to ask why we are apparently so slow off the mark in relation to clubs that will be our promotion rivals next season.
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Post by aucklandaddick on May 17, 2022 6:23:13 GMT
It’s deja vu all over again. Sheff Wed have beaten Ipswich Town to the signing of Plymouth striker Panutche Camara. (EFL Hub) This guy received very positive reviews on ITTV when we played Plymouth, and is precisely the quality of player that we need to be quick in signing. Once again, you have to ask why we are apparently so slow off the mark in relation to clubs that will be our promotion rivals next season. This seems pretty straight forward to me……teams like Sheff Wed and Ipswich have professional recruitment teams that go out and recruit with speed & intent to get their targets and pay the going rate for players such as Camara………we have a medical salesman doing the recruiting and SG as a negotiator……how the hell are we supposed to compete……we don’t even have a coach at present………maybe Camara was not on our player target list for this summer..……just like Scott Twine wasn’t on it last summer……..🤣🤣…….Anyone seen the film Groundhog Day?….🤣🤣 |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2022 7:12:52 GMT
Are we going to have this every time another club signs a player?
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Post by aucklandaddick on May 17, 2022 7:22:27 GMT
Are we going to have this every time another club signs a player? Possibly……if all the teams competing for promotion sign all the best frees available and we sign the equivalents of Leko, Arter,Lee, Castillo and John……then maybe you will hear a lot of the same sort of thing……hopefully this won’t be the case and I will be the first to hold my hands up and congratulate the recruitment team if we have a decent recruitment process this summer…..😳 |
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Post by madz on May 17, 2022 8:05:34 GMT
If we sign someone before a manager is installed - He's not a player the new manager wanted so why sign anyone.
If we don't sign a player before a manager is installed - we have a shit owner and missing out on players.
Charlton as a club can't win can they.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2022 8:11:07 GMT
Are we going to have this every time another club signs a player? Depends on the club & the player. All last summer we were told by a certain person (ok, it was BB) that “we don’t want to be like Wigan”. The fact is that successful and well run clubs identify their targets early & then sign them up. We do neither. |
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Post by kings hill addick on May 17, 2022 8:19:34 GMT
If we sign someone before a manager is installed - He's not a player the new manager wanted so why sign anyone. If we don't sign a player before a manager is installed - we have a shit owner and missing out on players. Charlton as a club can't win can they. Based on the league position last season I would say that, no, we don’t seem able to win. |
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Post by aucklandaddick on May 17, 2022 8:25:05 GMT
If we sign someone before a manager is installed - He's not a player the new manager wanted so why sign anyone. If we don't sign a player before a manager is installed - we have a shit owner and missing out on players. Charlton as a club can't win can they. Well fella yes they can win……..by going out with intent ( and I keep using that phrase) and getting in a top draw quality manager which is going to take us forward…. Fair enough to TS if he is holding out until the end of the PL season to get someone like Beale in…..but is a quality coach like Beale or others of his quality going to accept the financial results based offer like JJ accepted from TS to take the role…… If we end up completely underwhelmed with another new manager from the unsuccessful/ untalented managerial roundabout willing to accept another mediocre summer recruitment process……we could all be in for some more major dissapointment…….fingers crossed TS has a plan in place designed to give us an enjoyable and successful season…… |
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Post by madz on May 17, 2022 9:10:13 GMT
When i say "we can't win", I mean if we bring in players its wrong, if we don't bring in players its wrong.
I really hope TS has something lined up manager wise and soon. I'm not bothered about us not signing players right now when we don't have a manager. We need a new manager so they can build the team "they" want, not what has been thrust upon them by recruitment.
Yes we could miss out on some good players, but we need that Manager in. If its Beale we are holding out for great, if its Warburton good, if its Taylor ok. I'm not impressed with anyone else we have been linked with.
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Post by aucklandaddick on May 17, 2022 9:23:40 GMT
When i say "we can't win", I mean if we bring in players its wrong, if we don't bring in players its wrong. I really hope TS has something lined up manager wise and soon. I'm not bothered about us not signing players right now when we don't have a manager. We need a new manager so they can build the team "they" want, not what has been thrust upon them by recruitment. Yes we could miss out on some good players, but we need that Manager in. If its Beale we are holding out for great, if its Warburton good, if its Taylor ok. I'm not impressed with anyone else we have been linked with. But that is the key question here Madz?…..how much influence does the manager actually have on players recruited into the club?…..Adkins seemed to be at major odds with what was going on…..or not going on last summer? I agree with you regarding Beale and Warburton……I would have so much more confidence if we had either of these in charge…..but are either really going to accept the type of deal JJ accepted……and why would they when other clubs seem to be clearly sniffing around? |
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Post by reamsofverse on May 17, 2022 9:31:19 GMT
Keep telling you the Danish freak is pot less and will only bring in cheap options who he can squeeze 15-20 games a season out of.
Any decent only with good money would be out there now trying to tempt Nathan Jones away from Luton.
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Post by willett on May 17, 2022 9:51:10 GMT
We’re continuing to miss out on decent players, as TS is too focused on getting every member of his family on the club’s pay roll.
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Post by manikin on May 17, 2022 9:54:21 GMT
Keep telling you the Danish freak is pot less and will only bring in cheap options who he can squeeze 15-20 games a season out of. Any decent only with good money would be out there now trying to tempt Nathan Jones away from Luton. I think Beale or Taylor is the best we can hope for. But if Sandgaard had the money to put where his mouth is ( remember the 5 year plan ) Jones is the type he should be looking at. |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2022 10:34:51 GMT
Why on earth would Jones leave a championship playoff side to join a mid table league one team?
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2022 10:48:18 GMT
Keep telling you the Danish freak is pot less and will only bring in cheap options who he can squeeze 15-20 games a season out of. Any decent only with good money would be out there now trying to tempt Nathan Jones away from Luton. “Asset rich cash poor” is the phrase being used within the club. |
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Post by anthony55 on May 17, 2022 14:41:36 GMT
Clueless prick is the expression being used by me.
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Post by manikin on May 17, 2022 15:36:37 GMT
Why on earth would Jones leave a championship playoff side to join a mid table league one team? If our owner had the money to make him a better offer that would be a start. |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2022 15:58:08 GMT
Why on earth would Jones leave a championship playoff side to join a mid table league one team? If our owner had the money to make him a better offer that would be a start. Dreamland there are things to be upset with Thomas about but not approaching the Luton manager is not one of them |
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Post by manikin on May 17, 2022 16:16:02 GMT
If our owner had the money to make him a better offer that would be a start. Dreamland there are things to be upset with Thomas about but not approaching the Luton manager is not one of them Just an example of the standard he implied when he took over ( taking into account his promises ) and he's got nowhere near any of it. |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2022 18:03:17 GMT
Salford City want Ben Watson (EFL Hub).
I’d suggest that even lowly L2 football is beyond BW these days.
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Post by cafcfan32 on May 17, 2022 19:04:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2022 19:32:29 GMT
Yes please for Ladapo
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Post by reamsofverse on May 17, 2022 20:51:34 GMT
Why on earth would Jones leave a championship playoff side to join a mid table league one team? Err....My point is if we had an owner who had money and ambition for the club we would be looking up the football pyramid for a new manager and players. We are a bigger club than Luton and Nathan Jones will at some point be head hunted by an owner who is serious about getting a club he owns out of the division they are in. Thomas Sandgaard is a clueless footballing fraud, his son is a poor man's Thomas Driesen. My advice to any manager or player this summer is check the clueless bastard out before working for him. Don't ruin your career, this applies especially to Matt Taylor. He and his wife have a young family and he has a promising career as a manager ahead of him. I would hate that derailed by a delusional Danish cunt with a fake American accent and as pretender being paid by Daddy to oversee data analytics. |
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Post by reamsofverse on May 17, 2022 21:23:48 GMT
If our owner had the money to make him a better offer that would be a start. Dreamland there are things to be upset with Thomas about but not approaching the Luton manager is not one of them You just don't get it do you? We shouldn't have to just accept what the wanker can afford. which let's be honest isn't very much, just because some people still claim that he 'saved us'. What I am saying is we have got another owner who can't afford what it takes and just because other Charlton fans clearly suffer with delusionalism, it doesn't mean to say I have to put up with it. Sandgaard's funds or lack of, are not in the same ball park as what's needed. |
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Post by paperboy on May 17, 2022 21:38:54 GMT
Freddie Ladapo would be decent if the rumour were true, but current valuation is £860,000. I’m sure other clubs would be interested.
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