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Post by reamsofverse on Feb 15, 2020 21:34:15 GMT
Two totally unnecessary defensive midfielder signings last month when we already had Pratley and Cullen?
Our entire midfield has no goals in them so what is Bowyer thinking of exactly?
Pratley needing a rest does not justify two poor players coming in and being nowhere as good as he is.
Gallens postive/negative list of players signed has taken serious hit with these two latest flops.
How can you have eight defensive players in your line up and concede five goals on successive Saturday's?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2020 21:36:21 GMT
Exactly mate rather of had 2 centre backs
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Post by ExeterAddick on Feb 15, 2020 21:56:09 GMT
Have to agree with this.
If you made Cullen, Pratley, Field, Davis, Lapslie, Smith and Forster-Caskey play with bags over their heads it would be hard to tell them apart. They’re all very similar players and our squad is littered with them. We need an Aribo/Gallagher type in there to give us something different.
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Post by squareball on Feb 15, 2020 21:58:15 GMT
There was no point as Desi can play there too...plus Field when he’s back so utterly pointless really.
They couldn’t get the required players so just brought in whoever. You never know...one of them might score the winner to secure safety.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2020 22:01:54 GMT
I don't agree entirely. There was a need for ONE defensive midfielder, especially with Field's injury issues but not two.
Really unimpressed with Davis the two times I've seen him.
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Post by jonkool on Feb 15, 2020 22:12:24 GMT
Cheap stocking fillers!
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Post by MurciaAl on Feb 15, 2020 22:56:28 GMT
Don't know why Davies has started the last three games, he offers nothing IMHO, Pratley is a much better player, as for Smith, just another Lapslie, plainly obvious to see why he wasn't starting for QPR.
Couldn't believe Bowyer brought Smith on when we were desperate for a goal!
I personally think you can add Green to that list, he might have scored two goals, but I don't rate him at all, can't hold a ball up and never goes past a defender. That's three out of four loans that haven't improved the squad.
As for McGeady, I think and hope there's a decent player in there, but we haven't seen it yet. Hopefully he settles quickly.
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Post by seriouslyred on Feb 15, 2020 23:04:21 GMT
Don't know why Davies has started the last three games, he offers nothing IMHO, Pratley is a much better player, as for Smith, just another Lapslie, plainly obvious to see why he wasn't starting for QPR. Couldn't believe Bowyer brought Smith on when we were desperate for a goal! I personally think you can add Green to that list, he might have scored two goals, but I don't rate him at all, can't hold a ball up and never goes past a defender. That's three out of four loans that haven't improved the squad. As for McGeady, I think and hope there's a decent player in there, but we haven't seen it yet. Hopefully he settles quickly. That's just wrong! Green outpaced the defender the other week and then placed a perfect cross for a goal - he looks better than Leko. McGeady lacks pace but he can certainly play a bit. We will see next week if this squad can gel and perform. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Feb 16, 2020 1:15:15 GMT
Don't know why Davies has started the last three games, he offers nothing IMHO, Pratley is a much better player, as for Smith, just another Lapslie, plainly obvious to see why he wasn't starting for QPR. Couldn't believe Bowyer brought Smith on when we were desperate for a goal! I personally think you can add Green to that list, he might have scored two goals, but I don't rate him at all, can't hold a ball up and never goes past a defender. That's three out of four loans that haven't improved the squad. As for McGeady, I think and hope there's a decent player in there, but we haven't seen it yet. Hopefully he settles quickly. That's just wrong! Green outpaced the defender the other week and then placed a perfect cross for a goal - he looks better than Leko. McGeady lacks pace but he can certainly play a bit. We will see next week if this squad can gel and perform. Why is it always next week? |
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Post by massivebeak on Feb 16, 2020 7:01:58 GMT
That's just wrong! Green outpaced the defender the other week and then placed a perfect cross for a goal - he looks better than Leko. McGeady lacks pace but he can certainly play a bit. We will see next week if this squad can gel and perform. Why is it always next week? Because time travel is still on the ‘to do’ list 😁 |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 7:05:43 GMT
Two totally unnecessary defensive midfielder signings last month when we already had Pratley and Cullen? Our entire midfield has no goals in them so what is Bowyer thinking of exactly? Pratley needing a rest does not justify two poor players coming in and being nowhere as good as he is. Gallens postive/negative list of players signed has taken serious hit with these two latest flops. How can you have eight defensive players in your line up and concede five goals on successive Saturday's? Can't find fault with any of this. The January transfer window was almost entirely wasted. I was hoping that Aiden McGeady would work out - and he might eventually make a difference. But even if he improves and has a few good games towards the end of the season, that's a long way from signing a player who quickly makes the squad stronger, to help Charlton improve their form and climb away from the relegation struggle. The win at Forest was an unexpected bright spot and shows we can still play well when the circumstances are right. But Forest aside, our form since January has shown no improvement. The only player we got in worth having is Andre Green. But the losses of Gallagher and Leko outweigh that positive. Players returning from injury should be helping, but Taylor's great goal from Naby's superb assist against Forest is just about the only real sign of that.
Matt Southall hugely inflated the hopes and expectations of many supporters at the beginning of January (whether he meant to or not). We hoped that the last 3rd of the season would be a climb away from danger back to mid-table, and a lifting of spirits all round as we look forward to a summer of more permanent foundation laying. Instead we're going to get a grim, drawn-out relegation struggle that could go on right to the bitter end. I think we will stay up, but it's going to be so much more difficult than it needed to be. January was a big let down. |
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Post by cafc2002 on Feb 16, 2020 7:44:00 GMT
Thought Smith done ok when he came on as for Davis just not sure about him, think Sarr would do a better job than him tbh.
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Post by IpswichAddick on Feb 16, 2020 7:50:29 GMT
Why is it always next week? Because time travel is still on the ‘to do’ list 😁 I have to say that tickled a rib 😅✌🏻 |
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Post by jeddez on Feb 16, 2020 8:52:37 GMT
They obviously weren’t plan A, that was Maddison who’s a goal scoring midfielder, but it didn’t work out.
I find it amazing how fans don’t give new players a chance and then do a complete U turn when they start performing. The two mentioned have come in to strengthen the squad. A defender may have been on the list and we didn’t get him, however our squad is what it is, instead of bemoaning what could have been, how about suggesting ways we can get the best out of our squad in order to stay up. That’s what Lee and his team will be doing!
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Post by mersthamred on Feb 16, 2020 9:24:05 GMT
I like Smith.
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Post by yorkshireaddick on Feb 16, 2020 9:28:26 GMT
I thought Smith was ok yesterday. He at least tried passing forward, and he actually moved after passing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 9:47:00 GMT
Don't know why Davies has started the last three games, he offers nothing IMHO, Pratley is a much better player, as for Smith, just another Lapslie, plainly obvious to see why he wasn't starting for QPR. Couldn't believe Bowyer brought Smith on when we were desperate for a goal! I personally think you can add Green to that list, he might have scored two goals, but I don't rate him at all, can't hold a ball up and never goes past a defender. That's three out of four loans that haven't improved the squad. As for McGeady, I think and hope there's a decent player in there, but we haven't seen it yet. Hopefully he settles quickly. Thought Pratley had a bad back.. |
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Post by mikebassett on Feb 16, 2020 10:22:28 GMT
Last week they were good signings, now they’re bad ones. Win the next match and they’ll be good again. The life of a footballer and a football fan.
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Post by MurciaAl on Feb 16, 2020 10:27:16 GMT
They obviously weren’t plan A, that was Maddison who’s a goal scoring midfielder, but it didn’t work out. I find it amazing how fans don’t give new players a chance and then do a complete U turn when they start performing. The two mentioned have come in to strengthen the squad. A defender may have been on the list and we didn’t get him, however our squad is what it is, instead of bemoaning what could have been, how about suggesting ways we can get the best out of our squad in order to stay up. That’s what Lee and his team will be doing! James, I love a new signing or two and will always be right behind them, but Paul's comment was did we waste loans on two defensive midfielders, and I fully believe that is the case. I don't believe Davies or Smith are an improvement on what we already have. I have watched Davies in the last three games and he offers nothing and has already picked up two reckless yellow cards. LB was always stating that we would only sign players that improved the squad. Football's a game of opinions and in mine Davies, Smith and Green have not improved us, the jury is out on McGeady! |
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Post by reamsofverse on Feb 16, 2020 10:59:17 GMT
Last week they were good signings, now they’re bad ones. Win the next match and they’ll be good again. The life of a footballer and a football fan. Not read anywhere that they were good signings last week. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 11:01:04 GMT
It’s Davis. We need goalscoring creative players in midfield. We have got an abundance of defensive midfielders. Davis Pratley, Cullen. Smith, Lapslie. I can’t believe that Aneke was not even in the squad.
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Post by reamsofverse on Feb 16, 2020 11:02:03 GMT
They obviously weren’t plan A, that was Maddison who’s a goal scoring midfielder, but it didn’t work out. I doubt they were plan B either, clearly we wanted an attacking midfielder but having failed how do two defensive midfielders who offer nothing different compensate for that? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 11:16:31 GMT
Must admit, I try to be positive about all thing CAFC but Davis looks absolutely pony. A few people on here highlighted the lack of attacking threat from midfield and I couldn’t really see it. But the majority of the midfield sit so deep. Huge gap between the forwards and midfielders. Massive fan of what Bowyer has done but this needs ironing out quick. Also think playing Hemed is like starting with 10 men! Just absolutely not up to it.
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Post by reamsofverse on Feb 16, 2020 11:28:15 GMT
Must admit, I try to be positive about all thing CAFC but Davis looks absolutely pony. A few people on here highlighted the lack of attacking threat from midfield and I couldn’t really see it. But the majority of the midfield sit so deep. Huge gap between the forwards and midfielders. Massive fan of what Bowyer has done but this needs ironing out quick. Also think playing Hemed is like starting with 10 men! Just absolutely not up to it. But there were a few who told us that Davis was a great signing and that Hemed would come good? Surely they can't be wrong can they? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 11:41:04 GMT
Token signings by token owners, well that's how it feels. Charlton is not a toy that you play with, owners and management have a responsibility of care because every fan has invested a lot more than money.
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Post by thevalleybest on Feb 16, 2020 11:47:29 GMT
Davis was very poor yesterday,Smith ok .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 12:10:23 GMT
Davis was very poor yesterday,Smith ok . I agree re Smith but ok wont save us from the drop. |
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Post by jeddez on Feb 16, 2020 13:33:25 GMT
Davis was very poor yesterday,Smith ok . I agree re Smith but ok wont save us from the drop. So you think we’ll be relegated then? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 13:52:24 GMT
I agree re Smith but ok wont save us from the drop. So you think we’ll be relegated then? Well they're getting paid to play football, if they cant do that then that's us done for. As mentioned already, the run of bad form Man City had just after their takeover was down to many players knowing they were on their way out. They knew how much Wonga was on the table, whereas we don't even have a table. RD should never have bought us, but it was at least him and us, us being everyone Charlton, fans, staff players, all one movement against adversity. We have no idea how much money we have so we dream and excuse the inexcusable. I'm really pissed off with this fragmented feel at the club. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 14:32:42 GMT
Must admit, I try to be positive about all thing CAFC but Davis looks absolutely pony. A few people on here highlighted the lack of attacking threat from midfield and I couldn’t really see it. But the majority of the midfield sit so deep. Huge gap between the forwards and midfielders. Massive fan of what Bowyer has done but this needs ironing out quick. Also think playing Hemed is like starting with 10 men! Just absolutely not up to it. But there were a few who told us that Davis was a great signing and that Hemed would come good? Surely they can't be wrong can they? Have to hold my hands up to that. I thought on paper Davis was a box to box player. He ain’t even close. I know you pointed out the lack of attacking threat from the middle. Its so obvious now and It’s dire! No idea personnel wise who could change it up either. Gutted ain’t the word at the moment! |
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